Comments for Consider IT pure joy... http://shaddick.net/w Mission, IT & the Shaddick family Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:21:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Penal Substitutionary Death by Theodore A. Jones http://shaddick.net/w/2007/05/penal-substitutionary-death/comment-page-1/#comment-252 Theodore A. Jones Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:21:38 +0000 #comment-252 Other than that the doctrine of substitutionary atonement is an entirely false explanation of of what the crucifixion of Jesus has perfected for salvation from the penalty of eternal death, there is no other correct assessment of the idea. Other than that the doctrine of substitutionary atonement is an entirely false explanation of of what the crucifixion of Jesus has perfected for salvation from the penalty of eternal death, there is no other correct assessment of the idea.

]]> Comment on Love or fear? by Paul http://shaddick.net/w/2010/02/love-or-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Paul Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:03:53 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=737#comment-193 Interesting comments Erik. I agree that we must be careful in how we respond to calls for help from the church in Africa. Actually from my experience of working with Wycliffe in Ivory Coast and in AIM's international office, I know that mission organisations spend a lot of time thinking hard about the response they make to such calls. I'm not sure exactly how you would define 'gospel work' in your statement that most mission work is not gospel work. Assuming you mean that a lot is not direct evangelism, then I would agree with you. As far as mission work being done by people who do not really belong, that is true in many cases but definitely not all. Are you suggesting that only evangelism by people who become belongers is really valid mission? AIM today gives priority to bringing the gospel to 'unreached' African peoples and seeking the establishment of Christ-centred churches among them. We also do our best to help people become belongers as far as they are able. My personal experience is that I now feel some sense of belonging, both in the UK and in Africa, but I think that we will only truly know that we are in the place we belong when we are together with the Lord. Interesting comments Erik. I agree that we must be careful in how we respond to calls for help from the church in Africa. Actually from my experience of working with Wycliffe in Ivory Coast and in AIM’s international office, I know that mission organisations spend a lot of time thinking hard about the response they make to such calls.
I’m not sure exactly how you would define ‘gospel work’ in your statement that most mission work is not gospel work. Assuming you mean that a lot is not direct evangelism, then I would agree with you. As far as mission work being done by people who do not really belong, that is true in many cases but definitely not all.
Are you suggesting that only evangelism by people who become belongers is really valid mission? AIM today gives priority to bringing the gospel to ‘unreached’ African peoples and seeking the establishment of Christ-centred churches among them. We also do our best to help people become belongers as far as they are able.
My personal experience is that I now feel some sense of belonging, both in the UK and in Africa, but I think that we will only truly know that we are in the place we belong when we are together with the Lord.

]]> Comment on Love or fear? by Erik Pattison http://shaddick.net/w/2010/02/love-or-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-192 Erik Pattison Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:58:49 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=737#comment-192 But. But. But. This is a great challenge to the cowardice which chooses easy roads and calls it mission. But African churches will always ask for help if they see a chance to raise the living standards of the people they serve. This is not a call from God but realistic economic thinking on their part. Most mission work in Africa is not gospel work. Even when it is it is done by people who never get to really BELONG. Their primary fellowship and loyalty is with the mission organisation or even a "home church" thousands of miles away. When they retire they leave. When they need a break they fly out. Those weak "local churches" are obviously STRONGER than the mission societies because they are still there. AIM has a lot more thinking to do. But. But. But.
This is a great challenge to the cowardice which chooses easy roads and calls it mission. But African churches will always ask for help if they see a chance to raise the living standards of the people they serve. This is not a call from God but realistic economic thinking on their part.
Most mission work in Africa is not gospel work. Even when it is it is done by people who never get to really BELONG. Their primary fellowship and loyalty is with the mission organisation or even a “home church” thousands of miles away. When they retire they leave. When they need a break they fly out.
Those weak “local churches” are obviously STRONGER than the mission societies because they are still there.
AIM has a lot more thinking to do.

]]> Comment on The Matrix Bible? by Walt http://shaddick.net/w/2010/01/the-matrix-bible/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Walt Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:26:44 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=717#comment-191 Your statement that "The question of which translation one uses has become something of a shibboleth for some evangelicals which is a shame. In the end, the best Bible is the one you can read, understand and apply" is a keeper! Thanks for a refreshing insight on translations. I feel like too often people get bogged down in this debate. I was brought up memorizing KJV, but now mostly use NIV and NLT. I feel like they are the easiest translations to take in and share our joy with others! GBYRG! Your statement that “The question of which translation one uses has become something of a shibboleth for some evangelicals which is a shame. In the end, the best Bible is the one you can read, understand and apply” is a keeper!

Thanks for a refreshing insight on translations. I feel like too often people get bogged down in this debate. I was brought up memorizing KJV, but now mostly use NIV and NLT. I feel like they are the easiest translations to take in and share our joy with others! GBYRG!

]]> Comment on Are all Christians called to be missionaries? / Does a dog have four legs? by Paul Shaddick http://shaddick.net/w/2007/08/are-all-christians-called-to-be-missionaries-does-a-dog-have-four-legs/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Paul Shaddick Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:16:30 +0000 #comment-173 Thanks for your good comments Johnathan. I was asking the question, precisely because many Christians have a view that mission is for professional 'missionaries'. You have probably seen my comment there: The reason I asked the question is that I am increasingly uncomfortable with the word “missionary” in the way in which it is usually used. I am not convinced that mission (or proclamation for that matter) is a vocation to which only some are called. As Chris Wright has shown so well, God is on a mission, he has sent Christ into the world and all Christians by definition must be his followers. Thanks for your good comments Johnathan. I was asking the question, precisely because many Christians have a view that mission is for professional ‘missionaries’. You have probably seen my comment there:
The reason I asked the question is that I am increasingly uncomfortable with the word “missionary” in the way in which it is usually used. I am not convinced that mission (or proclamation for that matter) is a vocation to which only some are called. As Chris Wright has shown so well, God is on a mission, he has sent Christ into the world and all Christians by definition must be his followers.

]]> Comment on Are all Christians called to be missionaries? / Does a dog have four legs? by Johnathan http://shaddick.net/w/2007/08/are-all-christians-called-to-be-missionaries-does-a-dog-have-four-legs/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Johnathan Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:46:55 +0000 #comment-172 nope they are not. Some are called to be bakers and politicians and accountants etc. Missionaries are specially trained people. If you mean all christians are called to be a witness to Christ thats fine but 'missionaries' is a whole different matter. Most protestants in america think that only 'fulltime ministry' is Godly so you have millions of protestants who have NO effect on the culture (because being a missionary is more important than being a movie producer or a screenwriter), NO effect on politics (because being a missionary is more important then being a senator or a congresswoman), NO effect in science (because being a missionary is more important then being a biologist etc), NO effect ... well you get the idea. Im sure there will be many people who will condemn me for not being 'christian' enough but my question to YOU is are you happy with giving the socalled 'secular' world over to satan? If not then DO SOMETHING about it. Do you know there are over 50 million evangelicals in america and not one is a supreme court justice? 4 supreme court justices are catholics thank GOD for that otherwise we would have NO effect there. WAKE UP --PAUL DID NOT CALL YOU ALL TO BE MISSIONARIES STOP LYING TO YOURSELVES. nope they are not. Some are called to be bakers and politicians and accountants etc. Missionaries are specially trained people. If you mean all christians are called to be a witness to Christ thats fine but ‘missionaries’ is a whole different matter. Most protestants in america think that only ‘fulltime ministry’ is Godly so you have millions of protestants who have NO effect on the culture (because being a missionary is more important than being a movie producer or a screenwriter), NO effect on politics (because being a missionary is more important then being a senator or a congresswoman), NO effect in science (because being a missionary is more important then being a biologist etc), NO effect … well you get the idea. Im sure there will be many people who will condemn me for not being ‘christian’ enough but my question to YOU is are you happy with giving the socalled ‘secular’ world over to satan? If not then DO SOMETHING about it. Do you know there are over 50 million evangelicals in america and not one is a supreme court justice? 4 supreme court justices are catholics thank GOD for that otherwise we would have NO effect there. WAKE UP –PAUL DID NOT CALL YOU ALL TO BE MISSIONARIES STOP LYING TO YOURSELVES.

]]> Comment on The problems of literal translations by The Matrix Bible? « Consider IT pure joy… http://shaddick.net/w/2009/10/the-problems-of-literal-translations/comment-page-1/#comment-158 The Matrix Bible? « Consider IT pure joy… Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:30:55 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=671#comment-158 [...] The problems of literal translations Tags books humour Africa missional pray music ICCM translation tv scribblings Profile film reviews church Kenya web software video AIM Bible Islam Google travel theology mission Archives [...] [...] The problems of literal translations Tags books humour Africa missional pray music ICCM translation tv scribblings Profile film reviews church Kenya web software video AIM Bible Islam Google travel theology mission Archives [...]

]]> Comment on Burning Bibles for Halloween! by Tim Tillinghast http://shaddick.net/w/2009/10/burning-bibles-for-halloween/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Tim Tillinghast Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:12:48 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=683#comment-152 oh my! Makes me embarrassed to be from the same country. Looks like I need to clean out my WHOLE library. Do these people not condone any books other than the KJV? If you check back on their site now, they tell about what a great event it was. oh my! Makes me embarrassed to be from the same country.
Looks like I need to clean out my WHOLE library.
Do these people not condone any books other than the KJV?

If you check back on their site now, they tell about what a great event it was.

]]> Comment on ‘John Doe’ found in Bethlehem by Tim Tillinghast http://shaddick.net/w/2009/11/john-doe-found-in-bethlehem/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Tim Tillinghast Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:01:47 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=703#comment-151 "John Doe" would not pass for me in American English. Not in addressing a living person who was conscious and able to tell their name. Occasionally you see people who have amnesia or who are in a coma and unidentified referred to as "John Doe". “John Doe” would not pass for me in American English. Not in addressing a living person who was conscious and able to tell their name.
Occasionally you see people who have amnesia or who are in a coma and unidentified referred to as “John Doe”.

]]> Comment on Christmas can [still] change the World by Tim http://shaddick.net/w/2009/12/christmas-can-still-change-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Tim Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:44:52 +0000 http://shaddick.net/w/?p=712#comment-146 We'll use this on 13th - great I've enjoyed a few minutes browsing your blog We’ll use this on 13th – great
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