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        <title>David Segal: The Business of Law Schools is "Crazy"</title>
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        <summary>Recently, Bloomberg Law posted a video interview with New York Times reporter David Segal on YouTube. Mr. Segal is the reporter who has written several articles over the last year highly critical of legal education generally, and law school economics...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Recently, Bloomberg Law posted a video interview with <em>New York Times</em> reporter David Segal on YouTube.  Mr. Segal is the reporter who has written several articles over the last year highly critical of legal education generally, and law school economics in particular.  If you would like to read those articles, you may find them <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/business/law-school-economics-job-market-weakens-tuition-rises.html" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/business/after-law-school-associates-learn-to-be-lawyers.html" target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/business/for-law-schools-a-price-to-play-the-abas-way.html" target="_blank">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/business/law-school-grants.html" target="_blank">here</a>. </p>
<p>In the video interview, Mr. Segal explains how he came to be interested in the subject of legal education, alleges that the "business of law school is crazy," and refers to the "madness" of the overly influential and "pathological" U.S. News rankings. He calls the "prestige race" sparked by U.S. News "incredibly destructive."</p>
<p>Concerning the tension between rising student debt and the history of some law schools to not reveal accurate employment information, Mr. Segal argues in favor of law schools "patronizing" potential students to provide that information and let them know how tough it is to make a living as a lawyer. He also argues in favor of a range of law schools producing different "levels" of lawyers, from those qualified to handle small matters to those qualified to handle bigger ones, suggesting that this would benefit consumers. He charges that the ABA has a conflict of interest in being the regulating body for legal education, since lawyers have an interest in their being fewer lawyers on the market, and want to keep wages high.  Near the end of the interview, Mr. Segal strikes a discouraging note when he predicts that the extent of reform that the ABA or Congress is likely to force will be limited to better reporting of employment data and similar information.</p>
<p>Here is the video (14 minutes):</p>
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<p>From my point of view, in his articles in the Times and in this video, Mr. Segal has put a spotlight on problems in legal education at the top (schools that mostly disfavor teaching lawyering skills) and at the bottom (schools that charge a lot and may be playing fast and loose with employement data). But he misses the good middle almost entirely.  </p>
<p>There are many law schools today that are working hard (and harder every day) to train their graduates better for a wider range of law practice. One way of looking at the concern about a lack of "small matter" lawyers is that too many law schools are not producing graduates who are ready to practice when they leave, some of whom might "hang out a shingle" competently, and develop a small matter practice and make a decent living doing so (and be able to pay off their educational debt). </p>
<p>I suppose the sexier, headline grabbing, front page "above the fold" articles are the ones Mr. Segal wants to write. But there is another <em>very encouraging</em> story that he is missing, and by not paying attention to it, he is not providing the full picture of legal education today. There are many encouraging signs. For a start, he might want to look at the <a href="http://etl.du.edu" target="_blank">Educating Tomorrow's Lawyers</a> initiative of the <a href="http://iaals.du.edu" target="_blank">Institute for the Advancement of the American Legal System</a>. A consortium of law schools - across the spectrum - are working hard to improve legal education. My own <a href="http://bit.ly/rrhzUj" target="_blank">course portfolio</a> - for the Discovery Practicum course - was one of the first ones posted, but I am hardly alone; more and more law professors are changing how they teach law, in part by making it more practice focused.</p>
<p>These efforts are about producing better value for the cost of legal education. We may not be able to reduce the cost, but we can teach better, and prepare our students for a variety of practice settings. As I argue in the <a href="http://www.lawschool2.com" target="_blank">Law School 2.0 book</a>, leveraging technology will play an increasingly important role in providing better value for the cost. This was also the subject of my talk at New York Law School as part of the <a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/2011/04/presentation-at-future-ed-3.html" target="_blank">Future Ed 3 Conference</a> last April.</p>
<p>Personally, Mr. Segal's attack on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/business/after-law-school-associates-learn-to-be-lawyers.html?ref=lawschools" target="_blank">law schools for not teaching  practical skills</a> was the toughest for me to take. He is right, at least at the "top" schools, and the rest of us - sure, we could all do more. But to suggest that law schools do not teach real lawyering skills was hard to swallow. I have taught a course doing just that for over 20 years, and have written extensively about how to do this. After teaching as an adjunct for many years, I left a healthy 20 year practice to teach full time at the University of Denver so I could do more of this kind of teaching. A former student in the Discovery course <a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/2012/01/the-practicality-of-practicums.html" target="_blank">wrote an article</a> in the February issue of the Denver Bar Asssociation's montly publication about how it helped her to be ready for practice. A more eloquent rebuke to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/business/after-law-school-associates-learn-to-be-lawyers.html?ref=lawschools" target="_blank">Mr. Segal's article</a> could not be imagined - at least not by me.</p>
<p>Yes, that is just one course. But there are many like it. And even more broadly, the University of Denver has required a course of all first year students called Lawyering Process, and I have taught in that program for 15 years (as an adjunct for six years, and full-time faculty for 9). I have been Director of that program for the last 4 years.  My colleagues (9 full-time faculty members) believe very strongly in what we do - teaching lawyering skills to first year students - and many of us have dedicated our careers to doing this. And we are not alone! Lawyering skills teachers abound in nearly every law school across the country. Are there issues about how we are perceived and valued in the academy? Sure. But we teach these skills day in, day out. Hundreds of us. The complete picture is much better, and more encouraging, than Mr. Segal acknowledges, and that story would benefit from his spotlight. <em>There's</em> something to write about.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/TZaTsYNBFmo" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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        <title>Snow Day? University Closed? Class is in Session.</title>
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        <summary>Last Thursday evening, the University of Denver announced it would be closed on Friday, February 3. A massive snow storm was coming in overnight, and indeed it was not a false alarm. In the morning, the roads were treacherous, and...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Last Thursday evening, the University of Denver announced it would be closed on Friday, February 3.  A massive snow storm was coming in overnight, and indeed it was not a false alarm. In the morning, the roads were treacherous, and it snowed all day Friday and into the night. When it finally cleared on Saturday, we had two feet of snow in our front yard. </p>
<p>One of my colleagues once said about the frequency of University closings: "It usually takes a direct hit by an asteroid." Meaning, it never happens.  But the University was right to close.</p>
<p>But why also cancel classes? We have to make them up at some point, and that can extend the semester too late. And with "integrated" law school skills classes - like the Discovery Practicum course I teach - it is very disruptive to postpone a class.  It is not like a typical "doctrinal" course, where each class is essentially the same - going through cases in a casebook.  Skipping one class just doubles up material in another, or adds a class to the end of the semester, or the end of semester material is skipped or compressed.  It doesn't much matter to most law school courses. But it does matter to the Discovery class I teach.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d9038834016761bfc46d970b-pi" style="display: inline;"> </a><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d9038834016761bff05d970b-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="1-1260284058j7TJ" border="0" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00e553b3d9038834016761bff05d970b image-full" src="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d9038834016761bff05d970b-800wi" title="1-1260284058j7TJ" /></a><br /><br />So I conducted class online on Friday.  The technology to support this is in place in almost every class: Blackboard, or a similar courseware system. I wrote to my students on Thursday evening to let them know that I would like to conduct class online the following day. To their credit, they seemed willing to go along with this - I was clear that I was not requiring them to participate, since the University was closed, and if they would rather go sledding, they could certainly do that.  I prepared the class in the morning, and conducted it in the Lexis Webcourse site (basically, Blackboard) that comes with the textbook for the course (<em>Discovery Practice, </em>described elsewhere in this blog).</p>
<p>Like most classes, there was advance reading in the text and online, as well as a pre-class quiz (online) about the reading. I prepared a PowerPoint that went through the doctrinal material for the course (our subject was Answering Interrogatories), and then set up several discussion threads.  The PPT made reference to those threads in several places, and it was there that we had the class discussion. The class extended the full class period - actually, it started before 1:30, and ended after 4:00 p.m., which is the usual class period (since we only meet once per week). I followed the discussion threads as they developed over the course of the class, and asked questions and added my guidance when it seemed helpful. At the end of the class, there were 110 postings made to seven threaded discussions over the course of 2.5 hours.</p>
<p>All but two of my students were able to attend the class, and they will be able to catch up - asynchronously - over the next few days when it is convenient for them. And, we all stayed safe and warm. Even better, last night I received an email from one of the students in the course, which read as follows: "I just wanted to say that I was initially apprehensive about the online idea but I am pleasantly surprised and impressed with how it turned out.  Thanks for exposing a law school class to the new era!"</p>
<p>It was really simple to do, with technology that has been available to us for many years. What teacher today doesn't know how to use PowerPoint, an online courseware site to upload a file, and participate in online discussions? Sure, I worked all day when it might have been nice to enjoy the unexpected day off. But given this type of class, it was much better to conduct class online and stay on track.</p>
<p>It is perfectly appropriate to close the University when it is unsafe to travel, but I am becoming increasingly convinced that it has become an anachronism to cancel classes.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/Rm3puwe35uI" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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        <title>The Practicality of Practicums</title>
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        <summary>The February issue of The Docket, a montly publication of the Colorado Bar Association, includes an article by a former student, Beth A. Tomerlin. The article, The Practicality of Practicums: Thinking and Acting Like a Lawyer, One Class at a...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>The February issue of <em>The Docket,</em> a montly publication of the Colorado Bar Association, includes an article by a former student, Beth A. Tomerlin.  The article, <em><a href="http://bit.ly/zmrwgH" target="_blank">The Practicality of Practicums: Thinking and Acting Like a Lawyer, One Class at a Time</a></em>, describes the Discovery Practicum course that I have taught at DU Law School for nearly 20 years.  Beth was a student of mine in Lawyering Process in her first year, and took the Discovery course in her second year.  She graduated from the law school in 2007.</p>
<p>Needless to say, it is gratifying to read what a student has written after taking one of your courses, particularly when it is written from the perspective of having been out in practice for several years.  But this is especially true when it makes such a convicing case about how the course helped her be prepared for practice.  For any teacher, seeing a student succeed with what you taught them is immensely gratifying. For a teacher like me who has given so many years to this sort of teaching - well, it doesn't get better.</p>
<p>Although I have to say, it takes some getting used to. I first taught this course almost 20 years ago at DU, as an adjunct professor. I felt like I was about as alone as alone could be. I thought it was working, and my students seemed to think so too (for the most part).  I tweaked the course over the years, and when I joined the full-time faculty in 2003 I revived the course in the curriculum, and have taught it once or twice a year since then.</p>
<p>It is not like this is rocket science or anything. It can be done with virtually any law school course. It is based on the simple proposition of "Learn and Do."  Learn the rules and the cases - the applicable doctrine - and then practice it in between classes.  In my experience, this is best accomplished when the course is designed as what I call a "whole course simulation," organized around a rich problem set.</p>
<p>It is this kind of course that really needs new teaching materials, since a traditional casebook just won't work.  That is why I have been serving as Series Editor on the Skills &amp; Values Series with Lexis for the last several years, and why I authored the <a href="http://www.discoveryskills.com" target="_blank">S&amp;V book for Discovery</a>.  Although you could use it in several different ways, it is designed to support this kind of whole course simulation (as are the other S&amp;V texts).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340163005ca45b970d-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="DPCover" border="0" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00e553b3d90388340163005ca45b970d" src="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340163005ca45b970d-800wi" style="display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" title="DPCover" /></a></p>
<p>In the Discovery course, students read the rule, applicable cases, and some information about strategy and context before class (some of which is in that print book shown above, and some of which is in the Webcourse for the book online), then we review and discuss that material in class, and then the students engage in a mock litigation and *use* the discovery tools and strategies we have learned about in class.  Each week, they prepare a discovery document and serve it on their opposing counsel. The next week we learn about the next discovery rule, and then we practice that one.  I give them feedback on each assignment. Later in the semester they take, defend, and act as a witness in a deposition (with student court reporters taking down the transcript).  And at the end of the course they settle the case in settlement negotiations, and the final paper is their settlement agreement.</p>
<p>There are many advantages of teaching in this way. For starters, it's more fun.  For the teacher as well as the students. As a result, both are more engaged, and engaged learners are learning more. Students love this approach (you may read some of my student evaluations at the link below). Imagine such a course with a professor lecturing about the rules and strategy during class, with students taking a final exam for 100% of the grade.  Well, I suppose students could learn the rules and cases in the traditional class (although I don't think they would learn more substance than what my students learn anyway), but the retention rate would be awful. And they would never actually learn how to draft the discovery documents they will soon be asked to draft in practice.</p>
<p>But don't believe me! Read <a href="http://bit.ly/zmrwgH" target="_blank">Beth's article</a> - it's all in there.</p>
<p>When I read the <a href="http://bit.ly/yYnJnp" target="_blank">Carnegie Report</a> in 2007 I was gratified to see it argue in favor of more law school courses in which Doctrine, Skills, and Professional Identity are integrated. Because that perfectly describes the goal of the course design for the Discovery Practicum. Students learn the doctrine - be assured of that. But they also begin to develop their skills of using the doctrine (and hone their legal writing skills too - always a good thing). Perhaps most importantly, the simulation creates situations in which the students are called upon to begin to develop their professional identities. What kind of lawyer do they want to be? How will they behave when this situation arises in practice? A typical law school course can *ask* students questions like that, but until they are put in a situation that requires them to confront their own decision making process, they won't really know what their answer will be.  I think that when the <a href="http://bit.ly/yYnJnp" target="_blank">Carnegie Report</a> called upon law schools to do a better job integrating Professional identity formation into the curriculum, this is the sort of opportunity they were referring to.</p>
<p>In sum, it is nice that the course is getting some attention, finally. But mostly I am proud of Beth, for working hard in law school, thinking through what she needed out of the experience, and now for making her way in her career. And I am proud that she feels like she received a good education at the DU Law School.  Her article is a good rebuke to David Segal's most recent article in the New York Times, which had the headline: "What They Don't Teach You in Law School: Lawyering."  Ha.</p>
<p>If you would like to learn more about how the Discovery course works, read <a href="http://bit.ly/zmrwgH" target="_blank">Beth's article</a>, and take a look at <a href="http://bit.ly/rrhzUj" target="_blank">the teaching portfolio</a> on the Educating Tomorrow's Lawyers website.  Also, please feel free to contact me with any questions - I would be glad to help in any way I can.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/FzHpUUG8s4k" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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        <published>2012-01-29T18:59:20-07:00</published>
        <updated>2012-01-31T14:26:22-07:00</updated>
        <summary>In the Legal Technology News this week Evan Koblentz published an article entitled: Apple, Publishers, Open-Source Dictate Law School Textbook Evolution. It is a helpful article about the possibilities for future law school textbooks. It quotes me, as well as...</summary>
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<p>In the Legal Technology News this week Evan Koblentz published an article entitled: <em><a href="http://bit.ly/xVkT1H" target="_blank">Apple, Publishers, Open-Source Dictate Law School Textbook Evolution</a>.  </em>It is a helpful article about the possibilities for future law school textbooks.  It quotes me, as well as John Mayer from CALI.  </p>
<p>As Evan suggests, no one really knows what the future will bring, or the timing of it.  But it does seem that the era of the traditional law school textbook is on the wane.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340163005ba37a970d-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="Law_textbooks128" border="0" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00e553b3d90388340163005ba37a970d" src="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340163005ba37a970d-800wi" style="display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" title="Law_textbooks128" /></a><br />As I have said before (in the LS2 book and elsewhere), we often think of new technologies as <em>replacing</em>, rather than as being <em>additive</em>.  It makes for good media - "the sky is falling," and all that - but more often, new technologies are additive. We still have records and CDs after all.  We will still have books - a far more useful technology than either records or CDs - for a long, long time.  </p>
<p>The interesting dynamic in the law school textbook market is found in the combination of forces.  We know we need to teach in a different way - not, by and large, the casebook-bound way.  So we need new teaching materials <em>at the same time</em> as the technology is maturing to support the delivery of learning material in new and more effective ways.  It is in the combination of these forces that interesting things will happen.  Will the answer be found in hybrid books (print and online), at least for some time?  Will it be found in eBooks? Will it be found in interactive iBooks? Inquiring minds want to know.</p>
<p>But most likely it will be a combination of these, for different learning goals, and used in different ways for different courses, over a long period of time.  The market is not disappearing only to replaced with a phoenix rising from the sand. The market is fracturing.  Which, of course, presents opportunities for all of us.  Publishers, Authors, and Teachers.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/59P_lz6Ugo4" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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        <title>CELT Conference - March 29 - 30, 2012</title>
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        <published>2012-01-22T20:11:22-07:00</published>
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        <summary>The Center for Excellence in Law Teaching, at Albany Law School in Albany, NY, is hosting its first conference on March 29 -30, 2012. The title of the conference is "Setting and Assessing Learning Objectives from Day One." The conference...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>The Center for Excellence in Law Teaching, at <a href="http://www.albanylaw.edu/" target="_blank">Albany Law School</a> in Albany, NY, is hosting its first conference on March 29 -30, 2012.  The title of the conference is "Setting and Assessing Learning Objectives from Day One." </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d9038834016760f00324970b-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="Celt-conference-2012" border="0" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00e553b3d9038834016760f00324970b image-full" src="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d9038834016760f00324970b-800wi" title="Celt-conference-2012" /></a></p>
<p>The conference will focus on an important topic in legal education, that of outcomes assessment. Over the last several years, the American Bar Association has been debating several versions of additions to its accreditation standards relating to assessment.  (The first draft of the standards was unveiled at the <a href="http://bit.ly/Y6BeN" target="_blank">Legal Education at the Crossroads: Assessment Conference</a> at the University of Denver in September, 2009). Despite considerable resistance from the legal academy, it looks like the ABA is going to pass some form of outcomes-based assessment standards.</p>
<p>Which means legal educators need to understand what is going to be required, and how to go about starting and managing the assessment process. That is what this conference is going to be about.</p>
<p>To view the program, click <a href="http://www.celtconference2012.org/images/stories/pdf/program.12.14.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.  I will be the opening keynote speaker on Thursday night, as the conference begins.  My topic is "Update on Outcomes Reform in Legal Education."  More information on the conference, and a link to register, can be found <a href="http://www.celtconference2012.org/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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        <title>Working with iBooks Author</title>
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        <published>2012-01-21T16:53:35-07:00</published>
        <updated>2012-01-21T17:18:03-07:00</updated>
        <summary>I have been working with Apple's iBooks Author software more today, and can report that it is very much like Pages for the Mac, with interactive "widgets" built in to add interactivity and an output capability directly to iBooks. It...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I have been working with Apple's <a href="http://www.apple.com/ibooks-author/" target="_blank">iBooks Author</a> software more today, and can report that it is very much like Pages for the Mac, with interactive "widgets" built in to add interactivity and an output capability directly to iBooks. It also has a "Preview" feature so you can see what it looks like on your iPad before you publish the book to the iBookstore.</p>
<p>As I was working with the program, I prepared a mindmap showing the features I think one would want in an interactive textbook for legal education, and also noting which of those features iBooks Author has already baked in. Here is the diagram (the checkboxes indicate which features Apple has already included):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340168e5e78f22970c-pi" style="display: inline;"><img alt="IBooks for Legal Ed iBooks Author Features" border="0" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00e553b3d90388340168e5e78f22970c image-full" src="http://www.lawschool2.org/.a/6a00e553b3d90388340168e5e78f22970c-800wi" title="IBooks for Legal Ed iBooks Author Features" /></a></p>
<p>The quiz functionality is very basic, and would not work well for legal materials.  If you are going to quiz law students on legal information, the provided answers in the multiple choice questions need to be longer than is allowed in the software, but more importantly, they need to provide detailed answers for students to review after they have taken the quiz.  Also, it should be noted that there is no "email results to teacher" option, or any capture of how the student did on the quiz. This functionality has been part of law school courseware sites for many years, and so many will want to have it (in some form). The thinking seems to be (so far with this 1.0 version of the software) that these questions are merely for review.  Which is fine, but a law text would need more room for the questions and more information provided in the answer and review part of the quiz. Merely knowing you got the question "right" does not provide enough instruction.</p>
<p>Also, a glaring omission is social networking. One of the most important technology developments in the last several years has been the rise of social networking.  Social reading is still catching on, but the Kindle has had this feature for over a year.  (If you are reading something on your Kindle and want to share a passage with  your Twitter following, it's a matter of a few clicks). This kind of functionalility could be very powerful for law students, but it is not available in the 1.0 version of the iBooks Author software.</p>
<p>A concern is that links into webcourse systems may be somewhat problematic.  Embedding links in an iBook out to a website is simple: it opens the link in Safari on the iPad.  But embedding links that might require a logon step (like to a University Blackboard or other courseware system) does not seem to work very well.</p>
<p>A more sophistocated software end-to-end solution can be found at <a href="http://www.inkling.com" target="_blank">Inkling</a>, and in the Inkling iPad App, but that software is not generally available to the public, much less free.  Inkling is working with publishers to help them convert their books over to iBooks, and they do have social capability built in to their software, as well as many of the same (or similar) interactive features the iBooks Author software does.  </p>
<p>Inkling has published a traditional law school textbook with Aspen Publishers (Wolters Kluwer): Wills, Trusts, and Estates.  It is, frankly, a very poor example of what I think we want to do in making a law school text into an iBook format for the iPad.  I downloaded the first chapter into the Inkling software on the iPad, and it essentially the same as the print - that is, the old style "dinosaur" formatted law textbook.  There are internal links to other parts of the text. The demo page for the book seemed to indicate that there were links for cases out somewhere, but those are not visible or usuable in the Chapter I reviewed. I also did not see any links to rules or much of any additional, contextual information.  Oh, there was a picture of Sandra Day O'Connor embedded in one of her opinons while she served on the U.S. Supreme Court.  Big whoop. And here is the most disappointing part: the Inking eBook version of the Wills &amp; Trusts book is the same price as the print version: $159. Although you can purchase chapters separately (for $22 each).</p>
<p>It is interesting to <a href="http://www.inkling.com/blog/rising-tide-apple-announcement/" target="_blank">read the reaction of Inkling's CEO</a> to the Apple eTextbook announcement on Thursday. Here is a particularly thoughtful quote from his blog post:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Although Apple introduced some beautiful content, there are miles to go before this industry scales itself around building products that are “born” digital. To do so will take sophisticated tools and a cross-platform, open infrastructure that has yet to materialize. </p>
<p>He put his finger on a big issue right there - the textbook publishing industry is going to have to re-scale itself around a different kind of publishing than they are used to, and that they know. "Born digital" is a different realm, and being a traditional editor at a traditional publishing house is a job that is going away (however slowly) or changing significantly (over time).</p>
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        <title>Teaching Professional Identity with Skills &amp; Values Texts</title>
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        <published>2012-01-21T14:48:40-07:00</published>
        <updated>2012-01-21T17:14:01-07:00</updated>
        <summary>Another nice mention of my book Skills &amp; Values: Discovery Practice was posted to the Legal Skills Prof blog. It was written by Scott Fruehwald: While the supplemental skills training texts in the Skills &amp; Values Series from LexisNexis do...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Another nice mention of my book <em>Skills &amp; Values: Discovery Practice</em> was posted to the Legal Skills Prof blog.  It was written by Scott Fruehwald: </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">While the supplemental skills training texts in the Skills &amp; Values Series from LexisNexis do vary in format, most of them include materials on ethics training. <a href="http://bit.ly/xaxsHH" target="_blank">As I stated in a post last week</a>, I am especially impressed by <a href="http://www.discoveryskills.com" target="_blank">Discovery Practice</a> by David I.C. Thomson (2010). In this book, Professor Thomson makes ethics an integral part of discovery teaching. Considering that discovery involves the tension between the ethical duties of zealous representation and confidentiality to the client with the duties of fairness and disclosure to the court and to other parties, it makes a great deal of sense to include professionalism here.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">In sum, I agree with the Carnegie Report that we need to teach professionalism better in law school. Probably the best way of doing this to incorporate skills training into doctrinal courses, especially now that casebooks and supplemental texts allow professors to easily do this.</p>
<p>Scott is right on track. It is possible to integrate professional ethics issues into any doctrinal course, and with the Skills &amp; Values Series (as it grows to cover nearly every subject), it should be fairly easy to do. </p>
<p>I would only add that as we develop our thinking about professional ethics instruction, we should be explicit about what we mean.  It seems to me that the terms "Professionalism" and "Professional Identity" have been getting confused.  Yes, there is some overlap between them, but each contains components that are distinct from the other.  The Carnegie report is critical of legal education in not teaching or - more accurately, I think - <em>creating opportunities</em> for students to develop their professional identities.</p>
<p>Here is my shot at the distinction - <em>Professionalism</em> relates to behaviors, such as timeliness, thoroughness, respect towards opposing counsel and judges, responding to clients in a timely fashion.  I actually think we teach this pretty well in law school, across the curriculum.  We expect certain behaviors (often we define them in our course policies documents, and certainly they are defined in the student handbook), and for the most part we get them.  <em>Professional identity</em> relates to one’s own decisions about those behaviors (which sounds like overlap, but it’s not), as well as a sense of <em>duty</em> as an officer of the court and <em>responsibility</em> as part of a system in our society that is engaged in upholding the rule of law.  For me, “teaching” Professional Identity means we ask the student to finish this sentence: “I am a lawyer, and that means, for me that I will resolve this ethical dilemma as follows…” Carnegie is right when it says we don't do that very well across the curriculum</p>
<p>Of course, clinicians do, and so do lawyering process and practice-based courses (such as trial practice, or the Discovery Practice course that I teach).  Anytime you present a student with a practice-based ethical dilemma and ask them to learn the applicable rule(s), choose their own path, and then reflect on their decision, you are allowing them to form their professional identity. But we could do more of this, throughout the curriculum. Let's be clear, though, what we mean by <em>Professionalism</em> and <em>Professional Identity</em>.  </p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/LgxmuPgn8cQ" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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        <title>eTextbook Announcement from Apple today</title>
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        <published>2012-01-19T19:47:42-07:00</published>
        <updated>2012-01-22T20:12:17-07:00</updated>
        <summary>About a year ago I gave a presentation in which I said: “Somewhere in a warehouse in Brooklyn, there’s a group of guys and gals living on Jolt cola and cold pizza creating a publishing platform direct to the iPad....</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>About a year ago I gave a presentation in which I said: “Somewhere in a warehouse in Brooklyn, there’s a group of guys and gals living on Jolt cola and cold pizza creating a publishing platform direct to the iPad.  It will allow authors to create interactive textbooks, publish directly to the iBookstore, and to take a 70% royalty, not 15 or 20.”  I did not know any of this to be true.  But I had a hunch; it just seemed inevitable.</p>
<p>A few months later, it turned out my guess was right – PushPop Press (yes, I even had the “based in Brooklyn” part right) announced their first interactive book, Al Gore’s <a href="http://pushpoppress.com/ourchoice" target="_blank">Our Choice</a>.  The Vice President’s latest book on the environment – for the iPad only - provides an immersive reading experience, with photos that can be moved and enlarged, views of data on graphs that can be adjusted by the reader, and embedded video and voice overs.  It is a stunning book, and I recommend it – for the content, but also for the delivery.  What was even more significant to me was that PushPop announced at the same time that they were about to make available the software that would let authors create such books, and publish them to the iPad. That was significant to me because I have long argued that we need better and more interactive textbooks for legal education. It is what I said three years ago in the <a href="http://www.lawschool2.com" target="_blank">Law School 2.0</a> book, and why I have been working on the <a href="http://www.discoveryskills.com" target="_blank">Skills &amp; Values Series</a> with Lexis for the last two years. The reality is that if we are going to teach law in a different way - a 2.0 way - we need different teaching materials.  The traditional casebook just will not work.  This question is also deeply intertwined with the <a href="http://etl.du.edu" target="_blank">Educating Tomorrow's Lawyers</a> project, about which you can learn more <a href="http://bit.ly/rb5lyd" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>And then this summer, the stunning and disappointing news that PushPop Press had been sold to Facebook before they could release this software, and they were no longer going to deliver the product others could use, or any other eBook.  At the time, that announcement was both an inexplicable setback and a disappointment.</p>
<p>This morning at the Guggenheim Museum in New York, Apple made an announcement that might explain why PushPop decided to fold its tent.  Apple announced today a new software product called iBook Author, which allows authors to create interactive books for the iPad and sell them direct to customers through the iBookstore.  And, just like apps in the iTunes store, authors get to keep a 70% royalty. Oh, and Apple has made the iBook Author software available for <em>free</em> (although it runs only on the Mac).</p>
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<p>From my point of view, this is a significant development.  When the iPad came out, I posted here about that development, which was a very important one in the journey towards the interactive eTextbook future.  But in the last two years there has not been much to talk about – publishers have been figuring out what to do with it, and authors have been unsure whether to commit to the platform. The iPad gave us the platform, and while it has taken two years Apple has now sold more than 50 Million of them.  Not surprisingly, they are becoming more common in law schools.  In the last year, I have seen them appear in my classes, and in faculty meetings too.</p>
<p>But there is another critical step needed. Until now the reason to use an iPad to contain and use your law school textbook has been essentially nil because publishing the kind interactive textbooks that I have long envisioned for law school was difficult and expensive and so we just have not seen them yet.  But with Apple's launch of the iBook Author software, professors who want to use their own teaching materials (sometimes called a “course pack”) and to make them available on the iPad can do this with relative ease. For more extensive law books, professors who have current publishing contracts will want to speak with their publisher about whether they could get some help publishing their book in this format, and to begin to think about what interactive elements would make their book more engaging and useful for their students.</p>
<p>It is probably not entirely a coincidence that West – an information giant in the legal field – has just announced that they are divesting their Law School Publishing Division.  Just selling it off. Apparently, they no longer want to be in the business of producing what I have called "dinosaur" textbooks for legal education. Click <a href="https://updateweb.thomsonwest.com/pub/sf/ResponseForm?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DUQpglLjHJlTQOoQzgqzg2FQzgqE3KQzgDrrzgQ7zcBjFQGQ2Qdn3VXMtX%3DUQpglLjHJlTQOoQzgqzg2FQzgqE3KQzgDro1Q7zcBjFQzgQaQEtT&amp;_ei_=" target="_blank">here</a> to read their letter to authors about this. </p>
<p>Of course, for Apple, their move is about selling more iPads.  There is much discussion today in the blogosphere about how the EULA in the software requires an author who uses it to publish an iBook – and wants to charge for it - can only post the book for sale there.  That is, the author cannot separately make the iBook they produce with the Apple software available for a download from their own website (unless they make it free).  Although this is a new and fairly brazen requirement for the output of software (can you imagine such a requirement for everything you've written in Microsoft Word?) this seems a reasonable restriction to me.  Apple is offering the tool and the platform – the “end-to-end” solution - that has been elusive so far in this space.  Perhaps a reasonable analogy is that when you want a booth at a conference to gain exposure to your target audience, you have to pay for the booth, and it's only useful there.</p>
<p>But over time, we will probably see more open solutions - ones that work on the PC too - and that allow authors to publish eBooks simultaneously to the iBookstore for download to the iPad and to Amazon for download to the Kindle Fire.</p>
<p>In the meantime, this is a significant step for education - and thus for legal education too. I highly recommend that you view the <a href="http://www.apple.com/education/#video-textbooks" target="_blank">demonstration video</a> on Apple’s site - it explains in beautiful Apple style what they have done (complete with compelling cello music in the background).  If you would like more information about Apple's announcement from a more objective source than Apple, you might want to read this article at <a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2012/01/engage-apple-books-ipad" target="_blank">Wired</a>.  Some other interesting views of Apple's announcement can be found <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/why_apple_wont_disrupt_the_textbook_industry_anyti.php " target="_blank">here</a>, <a href="http://www.cultofmac.com/141832/why-the-emotional-criticism-of-ibooks-author-is-wrong/" target="_blank">here</a>, and <a href="http://pandodaily.com/2012/01/19/ibooks-author-is-not-going-to-hurt-publishers-it-might-even-help-them/ " target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>I welcome your thoughts about this development - please post them in the Comments.</p>
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        <title>eBooks with Scroll Motion</title>
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        <published>2012-01-16T19:17:23-07:00</published>
        <updated>2012-01-16T19:17:23-07:00</updated>
        <summary>This video of Josh Koppel, CEO of Scroll Motion, shows how their technology is being used to present Hearst magazines (including Oprah) on the iPad. It also shows their technology in a Houghton Mifflin math textbook, which looks particularly interesting...</summary>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://www.lawschool2.org/ls2/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>This video of Josh Koppel, CEO of Scroll Motion, shows how their technology is being used to present Hearst magazines (including Oprah) on the iPad.  It also shows their technology in a Houghton Mifflin math textbook, which looks particularly interesting to me.</p>
<p>I have long thought that this sort of technology can be and should be applied to law school textbooks.  (In fact, I predicted it three years ago in<a href="http://www.lawschool2.com" target="_blank"> Law School 2.0</a>). Not all of law textbooks, but many of them.  They could be so much more engaging and instructive.  No, not all law students have iPads.  But three print law school textbooks cost the same as an iPad, and those mostly contain cases that have been available free online for almost a decade, and at the end of the semester you can't play Angry Birds on them.  </p>
<p>At the Future Ed 3 Conference at New York Law School last April, I gave a talk within which I said something that was interrupted by applause by the nearly 100 attendees.  (That's never happened before, by the way). I said: "The classic law school textbook is a dinosaur waiting to die."  The interesting question is: what will it be replaced with?  The Skills &amp; Values Series of hybrid (print and online) law school textbooks - described elsewhere on this blog - is as far as I have gotten in answering this question, and they are pretty cool. But this sort of technology - and similar like Inkling and Kno - has the potential to make truly engaging, useful, and more effective books for law school teaching.</p>
<p>Here is the clip: </p>
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        <title>Another article about Legal Education Reform</title>
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        <summary>Yet another article summarizing the discussion about change in legal education, this time by Karen Sloan in the National Law Journal. This one at least emphasizes the role that employers play in all of this. If they continue to just...</summary>
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<p>This one at least emphasizes the role that employers play in all of this.  If they continue to just hire the "top" students from the "top" schools, they will hinder the reform they say is needed.  Not addressed is how we need to finish our own curricular reform, and certify competency in certain areas before the employers are likely to change.  That's something that isn't discussed much, but is needed. </p>
<p>What are the learning outcomes of your law school?  Has your faculty articulated those?  Most have not, but if yours has, what are you doing to measure achievment of those outcomes?  Once we can say what it is that we are teaching our students, and have some measurement of how we are doing (other than the bar exam, which has its own issues), then we can demand that employers pay attention to our students, and allege with some authority that they are better prepared than the "top" students at the "top" law schools.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LawSchool2/~4/6T3z36wIPC4" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>



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