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I spoke with &lt;a href="http://community.ca.com/members/Gijo-Mathew.aspx"&gt;Gijo Mathew&lt;/a&gt;, Vice President of Security Management at CA about the DLP announcement to get a better understanding of CA's strategy in the longer term and clear up a few things which confused me with their press release. Here are the "new features" for DLP 12.0 which I've lifted from the release:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Enhanced Discovery – Provides the ability to scan data locally on endpoints and to scan directly into structured ODBC databases to identify sensitive data.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Extended Endpoint Control – Leverages existing data protection policies to control of end-user activity such as moving data to writable CDs or DVDs, and taking a screen print of sensitive content.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seamless Archive Integration – Integrates with CA Message Manager, a product in CA’s Information Governance Suite, to help deliver end-to-end message surveillance, reporting, and archiving.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;The first thing I should point out is that the ability to scan structured databases is a BIG plus. Many DLP vendors out there do quite a lot with either unstructured data (e.g. files on disk, data in memory) or structured data (e.g. databases), but they don't usually handle both. Orchestria fell into the "unstructured data" bucket. Now under the CA banner, they can finally support the ability to scan and classify data sitting in databases. Note however, that the ability to scan/identify/classify data and the ability to enforce controls over access to this data are completely separate things. To be able to properly enforce controls over structured data, a product would need to hook into the low level database security mechanisms. As a result, the enforcement of access controls into databases based on the content being accessed is difficult and very few vendors can actually do this at the moment (CA included).&lt;br /&gt;
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While we're talking about scanning, CA also improved the way they scan for unstructured data. In previous versions, the scanning had to be performed from a central server. This is not ideal in many cases thanks to all the things that get in the way like firewall rules, security restrictions on machines, desktops not necessarily being available when required for scanning (either by being off the network or turned off) and so on. A more robust scanning strategy should support the ability to have the endpoints scan local data when required. It takes the load off the central server and allows for a more complete view of the environment from a data management standpoint. The new version of CA DLP added this capability. The negative however, is the performance hit taken by the endpoint while the scanning is being done (this is not a CA specific drawback - any endpoint scanner is going to impact performance).&lt;br /&gt;
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The second point about the additional features around endpoint control (specifically regarding the mention of moving data to CDs, DVDs and controlling screen print events) really confused me. The examples given are supported by just about every single endpoint DLP vendor out there. I was shocked that Orchestria didn't have these capabilities. Alas, this was not the case. Gijo mentioned that they merely enhanced the capabilities around the CA DLP endpoint component and that these were some examples they picked out. The point CA were trying to make was around the fact that they still do the core DLP things expected of any DLP product worth implementing. Apparently after the previous release of DLP, many assumed they were no longer focusing on the core DLP capabilities and going down the "identity aware DLP" road. This is definitely not the case according to Gijo.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the points mentioned in the press release are interesting in that they show CA are serious about core DLP capabilities, what impressed me most was the longer term vision CA has for the product. In fact, it is this longer term vision that had some accusing CA of neglecting their core DLP capabilities in the previous release.&lt;br /&gt;
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CA are fortunate in that the natural evolution of products in the DLP space fit nicely with their need to work at integrating DLP with their portfolio of products. It makes product management decisions slightly easier for them instead of having to spend a lot of time trying to balance the need for additional features with being able to sell a cohesive suite of solutions (which is commonly the problem with acquisitions). In other words, adding integration points provides CA DLP with additional capabilities that make sense for most of the other products involved as well. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The ability to add context to access control is a very powerful thing. Context is very much about information, with data at its core (although it's not everything, because data alone does not tell us what a user is actually doing). What I'm referring to is commonly labelled as content aware access management. A common use case here typically involves integration of access control decisions by a web access management component (&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/internet-access-control.aspx"&gt;Siteminder&lt;/a&gt; in CA's case) with data aware mechanisms provided by a data security solution (CA DLP in CA's case). The web access management product can either make decisions based on static tags on the information/resource being accessed or dynamic analysis made in real time by the data aware component (e.g. this data looks like a bunch of credit card numbers so we should not be giving the user access).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;The analysis of data usage patterns across different environments allows for additional smarts when trying to manage risk, especially in cases where patterns are outside the norm of a user's peers. The trick here is being able to turn the data gathered into information to feed back to a GRC (Governance, Risk &amp;amp; Compliance) solution or SIEM (&lt;span id="main" style="visibility: visible;"&gt;&lt;span id="search" style="visibility: visible;"&gt;Security Information and Event Management) dashboard. Otherwise, you could just point any old reporting engine at the data and achieve the same result (which is far from what one would call proper integration).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Access and data governance are typically silos in organisations today. If you're able to tie the two together, the management overhead is reduced significantly. That's why it's a big deal if an organisation is able to get a single view of both from a management standpoint. This is not to say it cannot be done today. The key point I'm making here is that it's just really hard to do. If a vendor makes it that much easier to achieve, it saves time and money.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Improving the lifecycle activities around enterprise information and content management by using the data discovery and classification capabilities to provide additional context to the relevant processes.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out which CA product/s to slot into each example. The point is, they have something in their product stack to integrate with DLP in each example. What these illustrate however, is the direction CA are headed in with regards to the DLP strategy (even though some of it is a little high level).&lt;br /&gt;
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Gijo was honest in acknowledging they don't have a lot of the things they want out of the box just yet. At this stage, many of the things I've mentioned (in terms of product strategy) will require a good amount of services work. I'm not going to criticise them for this as they only acquired Orchestria earlier this year and it's unrealistic to expect all the required integration to be built out so quickly, especially with a whole suite of products like CA's. What I do like a lot, is where they're going.&lt;br /&gt;
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CA's strategy is good. They're on a journey and their DLP product is the jewel in their security suite from a competitive standpoint (against the other big IAM vendors). They also stack up well against their competitors in the data security space; in this case the advantage comes in the form of their IAM suite (and to a certain extent, their ever improving GRC prowess), which other data security vendors do not have. Those familiar with the security space might notice I haven't made any mention of the fact that &lt;a href="http://www.rsa.com/"&gt;RSA&lt;/a&gt; also have both IAM and DLP capabilities. Don't forget however, that it's a bit of a stretch to call RSA's IAM capabilities a suite (e.g. they don't do provisioning). They also have no real GRC capabilities to speak of (their &lt;a href="http://www.rsa.com/node.aspx?id=2428"&gt;GRC page&lt;/a&gt; is a bit of a joke).&lt;br /&gt;
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As long as CA don't neglect the core data security capabilities in DLP along the way, they're going to do just fine.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-7025447593957958796?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/P5BiNTL4ycQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/7025447593957958796/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=7025447593957958796" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7025447593957958796?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7025447593957958796?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/P5BiNTL4ycQ/ca-dlp-headed-in-right-direction.html" title="CA DLP headed in the right direction" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/11/ca-dlp-headed-in-right-direction.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ak8GRn4_fCp7ImA9WxNVGE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-8486719064831184543</id><published>2009-10-30T01:30:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-30T04:53:47.044+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-10-30T04:53:47.044+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grc" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="marc camm" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="governance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="tom mchale" /><title>CA GRC Manager adds IT GRC focus</title><content type="html">Earlier last week, &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt; sent out a &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=217987"&gt;fairly lengthy press release&lt;/a&gt; with a list of products they've updated. The 2 products that caught my eye were &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?id=7799"&gt;GRC Manager&lt;/a&gt; 2.5 and &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/data-loss-prevention.aspx"&gt;DLP&lt;/a&gt; 12.0. This post covers GRC Manager.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back in February, &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/02/ca-continues-their-grc-march.html"&gt;I spoke to CA&lt;/a&gt; about their 2.0 release of GRC Manager. Then, it was all about what they called RiskIQ and turning raw data into useful information to better manage risk and compliance. To me, version 2.0 marked the real arrival of CA as a GRC vendor to contend with because it showed they were serious and that the 1.0 version wasn't a flash-in-the-pan-side-project they thought they'd try out to see what would happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Late last week, I spoke with Marc Camm (SVP &amp;amp; GM, Governance, Risk and Compliance Products) and &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/about-us/tom-mchale/"&gt;Tom McHale&lt;/a&gt; (VP of Product Management for CA GRC Manager) to see what they had to say about the new release.&lt;br /&gt;
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The message that came through loud and clear was that version 2.5 is very much about IT GRC. If you're interested in specific new features (I don't normally do this but since it was a long press release), here's the relevant section lifted directly from CA's press release:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Automated Questionnaires - Allows customers to easily create, distribute, and analyze the results of questionnaires for risk and compliance controls assessments.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robust Reporting Engine - Provides a set of pre-defined, role-based reports, as well as easily configured reports for local needs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ongoing IT Controls Monitoring - Automates input of IT controls status information into CA GRC Manager and provides a single view of overall IT risk and compliance profiles.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Extensions to IT Control Framework - Supports mapping between individual controls and authority documents, featuring a library of more than 400 regulations with mappings to IT controls from the Unified Compliance Framework.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Streamlined Management of Select FISMA Requirements - Offers a centrally managed information security system with extensive dashboards and reports, providing instant, comprehensive information about controls and processes related to Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA) requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The new features and focus on IT GRC came about through feedback the product management team gathered from existing GRC Manager customers. Reading between the lines, it also looks like CA tried to make version 2.5 of the product much more usable (I'm in no way suggesting 1.0 was not usable).&lt;br /&gt;
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Some examples mentioned include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dashboards improvements to allow for better navigation between risks, controls, application contexts etc.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Standard, pre-configured roles included out of the box for better support from day one. In a way this could be viewed as "best practice" roles for controlling access to various parts of the application and actions performed.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Extended functionality within the reporting engine to allow users to customise pre-built (out of the box) reports without having to build their own from scratch all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;The addition of FISMA requirements and extended Unified Compliance Framework support are further evidence of this.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's not to say there isn't any work to be done from an implementation standpoint. It's a GRC product. Anyone who thinks you can implement a GRC product without a good amount of internal effort (and external help) is delusional. What I think CA's tried to do is make GRC Manager more of an enabler for Enterprise GRC; in other words, they want to help fast-track efforts by providing as much up front as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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One thing that's interested me for some time is the notion of managed services (I even &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/managed-identity-services-survey.html"&gt;ran a survey&lt;/a&gt; to try to find out more). As a result, I couldn't help but ask Marc and Tom whether any of their customers actually use &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/Product.aspx?ID=8233"&gt;CA GRC Manager On Demand&lt;/a&gt; (the hosted version of the product). Apparently 20% (I won't hold CA to this number as it was just a rough figure) of their customers use GRC Manager in this capacity with a bunch of others wanting to migrate.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact that this version still starts with a "2" isn't lost on me. It's not a major release in the traditional sense, but CA added enough features to warrant them making some noise about it. I'll be interested to see what version 3 holds, but I'm even more interested in the percentage of customers that end up going with GRC Manager On Demand in the next release.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-8486719064831184543?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/d6rTPeq9BhY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/8486719064831184543/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=8486719064831184543" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8486719064831184543?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8486719064831184543?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/d6rTPeq9BhY/ca-grc-manager-adds-it-grc-focus.html" title="CA GRC Manager adds IT GRC focus" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/10/ca-grc-manager-adds-it-grc-focus.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcHQ3s_eip7ImA9WxNVGE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-6308197016522372975</id><published>2009-10-29T03:33:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-30T03:33:52.542+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-10-30T03:33:52.542+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><title>CA's been busy</title><content type="html">Earlier last week, &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt; sent out a &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=217987"&gt;fairly lengthy press release&lt;/a&gt; with a list of products they've updated; I guess they've been busy.&lt;br /&gt;
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That said, most of the updates were fairly minor:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/access-control.aspx"&gt;Access Control&lt;/a&gt; got some privileged user management teeth.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/user-provisioning.aspx"&gt;Identity Manager&lt;/a&gt; got more hooks into &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/role-management.aspx"&gt;Role &amp;amp; Compliance Manager&lt;/a&gt; to give us "Smart Provisioning". According to CA, this means they now provide: "the capability during the provisioning process to prevent business and regulatory policy violations. The software will proactively check for things like SOD (segregation of duties) violations during the provisioning process; it will issue an alert when an entitlement has been assigned that is significantly out-of-pattern or different from the person’s peers; and it will help with productivity and efficiency by suggesting roles that may be useful to a person when compared to the roles of his or her peers."&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/records-management.aspx"&gt;Records Manager&lt;/a&gt; got some stuff but I fell asleep reading about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;The 2 products that caught my eye were &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?id=7799"&gt;GRC Manager&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/data-loss-prevention.aspx"&gt;DLP&lt;/a&gt;. I'll be writing 2 follow-up posts about them. Stay tuned.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-6308197016522372975?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/SkazC4NKfbQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/6308197016522372975/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=6308197016522372975" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/6308197016522372975?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/6308197016522372975?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/SkazC4NKfbQ/cas-been-busy.html" title="CA's been busy" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/10/cas-been-busy.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkYHSX8_fSp7ImA9WxNVEEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-4327202782512739502</id><published>2009-10-21T01:45:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-10-20T15:48:58.145+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-10-20T15:48:58.145+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="tivoli" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="entitlement management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="access management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ibm" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="project" /><title>My first identity and access management project</title><content type="html">In a &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt; (which I subsequently followed up with &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/spinning-entitlements.html"&gt;another&lt;/a&gt;), I mentioned the first Identity and Access Management (IAM) project I worked on. I also said I'd follow that post up with more details about the project I mentioned. It's been some time since I said that, but I've finally gotten around to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My very first IAM project was an extremely large one. It was for one of the larger Australian federal government agencies and I can't give specifics (or they'll hunt me down) so forgive me if I'm vague in certain parts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They needed to re-engineer a core, critical business process from end-to-end. This meant a brand new system needed to be built and it ended up taking years. I personally spent almost 2 years early in my &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; career working on this monster as a consultant in the Security and Privacy practice and when I finished serving my time there (reference to prison completely intentional), they were still rolling out other functionality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My job was done however, because we had finished laying down the whole security framework and it was working in production. The security system was actually very well architected thanks to the fact that it was designed by a very senior, very experienced, absolutely world class enterprise security architect (hi BP, I'm referring to you if you're reading this - probably not though so one of you other IBMers will have to tell him I said hi). This was actually the key. We could have slotted any equivalent product into the architecture and it would have served its purpose. Of course, being strategically aligned with IBM Tivoli meant this was what we used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The project used a bunch of IBM software: &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/webservers/appserv/was/"&gt;WebSphere Application Server&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/integration/wmq/"&gt;MQ Series&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/9/"&gt;DB2&lt;/a&gt;, some other IBM software to support &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Data_Interchange"&gt;EDI&lt;/a&gt; transactions (can't remember the names anymore) and of course IBM &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/solutions/security/"&gt;Tivoli Security&lt;/a&gt; software (specifically &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/access-mgr-e-bus/"&gt;Tivoli Access Manager for e-business&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/directory-server/"&gt;Tivoli Directory Server&lt;/a&gt;). We even had full blown &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_key_infrastructure"&gt;PKI&lt;/a&gt; software (from another vendor) to support signing of messages (for authentication purposes) and encryption. At the core of this mish-mash of software wrapped with services (provided by a consortium that was not limited to IBM alone) was Tivoli Access Manager for e-business (TAMeb). And what was its primary use? Fine-grained access management or as some of the market likes to call it today; entitlement management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's right, I was responsible for implementing fine-grained access/entitlement management in very first IAM project but I didn't know it at the time. Absolutely everything had to ask TAMeb before it could do anything. Want to show a button on a page? Ask TAMeb. Want to show a field on a page? Ask TAMeb. Want to allow someone to process a particular transaction? Ask TAMeb. Can this application send this message to this other application where the message is marked as secret and does it need to be encrypted as well? Ask TAMeb. No application security decisions were made without first making an authorisation call to TAMeb. None of this stuff involved web access management! Sure, we had to implement the web access management aspects too, but this was not the focus. We put in the web access management bits because it was mandated by the security architecture. But this was by no means a web access management project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From an ease of development, time, manageability and subsequently cost standpoint, having all access control decisions managed centrally made perfect sense. I'm pretty sure everyone on that project would agree with me on this point. Here are a few reasons why they liked having a central access management point:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;All teams could adhere to the same interface contracts when it came to authentication and authorisation. This also meant that if a development team couldn't get a security component working and everyone else could, it was their fault and usually could get it fixed fairly quickly because others knew how to do it properly.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;No one had to write their own security sub-system because it was already sitting there waiting to be used and it worked extremely well. This meant they could spend time worrying about the more interesting things like business logic. I have yet to find a developer who likes writing security code (unless they are building a security product and even then it's debatable whether they actually like what they are doing) because it's simply a hurdle to getting the "real work" done.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Teams could re-use existing policies if required because they were mostly modelled on a business requirement.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;No need to worry about policy modelling or management of security policies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If a policy changed, it would be reflected across all systems. Without a central store, they would each need to worry about how to synchronise their policies so that there weren't any back doors to exploit. This alone is a whole sub-project on its own.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Security within each system was distilled down to a single statement: "Ask TAMeb". Compare this with having to worry about designing and building a security sub-system, designing and building a way to model identities, roles, policies, resources within the sub-system, designing and building a management layer on top of the sub-system and then worrying about how to ask the sub-system to make decisions from the main application. I'm talking best case scenario here of course because quite often, development teams simply use configuration files which are completely unmanageable (if you've ever written a Java Enterprise application and played with crappy deployment descriptors, you know what I mean). And if you understand the implications of using config files, you'll know that each time a security change is made you have to restart the application (which is going to screw with your SLAs) unless your vendor has some fancy way of dynamically updating in-memory application configuration settings. Oh, I haven't yet thought about how to synchronise security policies with the other systems floating around. Manually you say? Or use a provisioning product? Yeah it's possible. But it also means a heck of a lot more design and analysis work (in the case of the provisioning product). If you want to do it all manually, you can expect to have very frequent security incidents and lots of follow-up meetings with management to explain why it happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the biggest challenges was the huge number of transactions (and as a result, access control decisions) passing through the system due to the sheer size of the project. And to the credit of TAMeb, it scaled well and did the job. Of course, we had to do proper capacity planning and implemented multiple enforcement and decision points (PEPs and PDPs in the XACML world). And the Policy Administration Point (PAP)? This was a combination of the TAM administration console and an application we had to build to perform "identity management". Why did we have to build this? Because IBM hadn't acquired Access360 yet (which became &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/identity-mgr/"&gt;Tivoli Identity Manager&lt;/a&gt;) and the existing IBM provisioning product was a piece of crap called Tivoli Identity Director which still relied on the Tivoli Framework (those with experience playing with the old framework know it's EXTREMELY painful).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I should explain why we had to build an "identity management" component on top of TAM. One major criticism of TAM when it comes to fine-grained access management is that it's not very good when you need to add a bit of context that relies on user attributes because:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;The admin console doesn't give you access to them (last time I checked). To play around with user attributes, you either need to access the LDAP directly or use a provisioning product like Tivoli Identity Manager.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Contextual access control decisions based on user attributes are also not the easiest to model without a provisioning product to help. In short, you need to do it based on dynamic role memberships and have policies on resources (or entitlements) tied to these roles. Provisioning products can do this (cater for dynamic roles based on user attributes) out of the box and provision the required changes to the access management product in near real time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; In other words, we had to build the "identity management" piece to allow for contextual access control decisions based on user attributes. Nowadays of course, you can just use your favourite provisioning product.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The glaring omission from the picture is of course XACML. It wasn't even part of the IAM vocabulary at the time and the lack of XACML support in the project makes it very difficult for the government agency to swap TAMeb out of the picture (which IBM definitely isn't complaining about). But I'm guessing it's not a big deal for them because they spent a few million shed-loads worth of tax-payer's dollars to build this system and it works as designed. They're not about to replace the critical security component that makes all the decisions!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The motivation behind my &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/entitlement%20management"&gt;occasional rants&lt;/a&gt; about the term "entitlement management" and how it's all too often used as a marketing gimmick to sell more products stems from my time on this project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Broken record time: call your vendor out if they're blatantly repackaging fine-grained access management as "shiny-new-entitlement-management". If it's more along the lines of what the Burton Group &lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/05/13/nailing-down-the-definition-of-entitlement-management.html"&gt;thinks it should mean&lt;/a&gt;, we might start to get somewhere. It's still a moving target however, so I'm sure the definition will expand and evolve, especially with all this Cloud crap floating around.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-4327202782512739502?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/AyXCv1r8TgA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/4327202782512739502/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=4327202782512739502" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/4327202782512739502?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/4327202782512739502?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/AyXCv1r8TgA/my-first-identity-and-access-management.html" title="My first identity and access management project" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/my-first-identity-and-access-management.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0cHQX4yfip7ImA9WxJXFUo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-8773908225212368345</id><published>2009-06-10T03:44:00.005+10:00</published><updated>2009-06-10T04:10:30.096+10:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-06-10T04:10:30.096+10:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="personal" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="travel" /><title>Out of the office and moving home</title><content type="html">If you &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/ianyip"&gt;follow me&lt;/a&gt; on Twitter, you'll know I've just started a long holiday through Europe and the US. I won't be back until late July. Internet access will be intermittent, so please don't be offended if I don't respond to your message as quickly as expected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for where I'll be when I'm done with this trip; the answer is &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sydney, Australia&lt;/span&gt;. I'm moving back home for the moment thanks to UK government incompetence. I won't get into the details because the fact that I'll be in Sydney for the next year or so (at least) won't change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look forward to catching up with a few of you when I get to the US. I'll ping you closer to the date as promised.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-8773908225212368345?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/y135PndOiG0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/8773908225212368345/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=8773908225212368345" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8773908225212368345?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8773908225212368345?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/y135PndOiG0/out-of-office-and-moving-home.html" title="Out of the office and moving home" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/06/out-of-office-and-moving-home.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkAERnkzeCp7ImA9WxJRFEk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-661829386714735508</id><published>2009-05-15T03:52:00.004+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-16T14:38:27.780+10:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-05-16T14:38:27.780+10:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="entitlement management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="access management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grc" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="authorisation" /><title>Spinning entitlements</title><content type="html">A few of us (e.g. &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/ianyip/status/1773052789"&gt;me&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/NishantK/status/1773814456"&gt;Nishant Kaushik&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/matthewflynn/status/1774047644"&gt;Matt Flynn&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://connectid.blogspot.com/2009/05/choices-choices.html"&gt;Paul Madsen&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/05/13/nailing-down-the-definition-of-entitlement-management.html"&gt;Ian Glazer&lt;/a&gt;) have been lamenting the negative effect &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; has had on our blogging frequency. As a result, we've also had a lack of discussion via our blogs. But Twitter discussions can only go so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As such, my &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html"&gt;previous post about entitlement management&lt;/a&gt; was intended to stir the pot a little bit (which is why I posted the "equation" as a hypothesis) and also bring to the surface one of my pet peeves with how some vendors position entitlement management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to achieve 2 things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Point out what you're actually getting if you buy an entitlement management product from an access management vendor.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If we MUST use the term "entitlement management", we should at least have a good reason for doing so instead of using it to sell more products by re-branding an old concept.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;I purposely focused only on the authorisation/access management side of things to serve the first part of the agenda. That is, if we look at the entitlement management products from access management vendors today, the hypothesis that entitlement management = fine-grained access management + XACML holds. In other words, that's all you are buying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second point required discussion so I conveniently ignored everything else that I've heard people refer to as "entitlement management". The most common example is in relation to IT Governance, Risk and Compliance (GRC), specifically identity compliance and attestation-type activities. I don't typically refer to this as "entitlement management", but others do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the 2 obvious sides to the entitlement management coin, but there are others that could conceivably pop-up. For example, Eve Maler &lt;a href="http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2009/05/12/heady-days-at-eic-in-munich/"&gt;brings up&lt;/a&gt; the possibility that &lt;del&gt;Vendor Relationship Management&lt;/del&gt; her &lt;a href="http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/categories/protectserve/"&gt;ProtectServe&lt;/a&gt;/"relationship management" proposal could potentially be thought of as "Enterprise 2.0 entitlement management" (&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;update&lt;/span&gt;: Eve clarified that she meant ProtectServe rather than VRM via the &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/spinning-entitlements.html?showComment=1242417480000#c464721440956302119"&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt; to this post).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's clear that the term "entitlement management" means different things to different people. It's a bit like the &lt;a href="http://www.maniacworld.com/Spinning-Silhouette-Optical-Illusion.html"&gt;spinning lady illusion&lt;/a&gt; (where depending on how you focus, you see it spinning in one direction while others see it spinning the opposite way). In our case, some might not think we're even looking at a lady's silhouette. I don't like things to be complex (which makes people wonder why I chose this line of work). But it's also for this reason that I don't like the term "entitlement management". It confuses the heck out of everyone!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I received a few email responses. There were also a couple of opinions on Twitter, a few more in the &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html?showComment=1242137220000#c8002693842950093902"&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt; to my post (which I &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html?showComment=1242222900000#c7273049623282331224"&gt;responded&lt;/a&gt; to there) and a handful of blog responses (&lt;a href="http://blog.talkingidentity.com/2009/05/entitlement-management-more-than-meets-the-eye.html"&gt;Nishant&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.tuesdaynight.org/2009/05/13/nailing-down-the-definition-of-entitlement-management.html"&gt;Ian Glazer&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://vquill.com/2009/05/entitled-to-opinion.html"&gt;Dave Kearns&lt;/a&gt;). Some agreed, others partially and some not at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before I move on, I should clear something up. &lt;a href="http://blog.pdtoal.com/"&gt;Paul Toal&lt;/a&gt; (from &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/"&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html?showComment=1242137220000#c8002693842950093902"&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"I think you are making a huge assumption that entitlements management is only related to the web access layer".&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not. And that is part of the problem with calling all these access management products "web access management" products. It makes everyone assume that's all these products do. And that was part of my point; that they can do so much more. Simply calling them "web access management" products does their capabilities an injustice (although some have less fine-grained access management capabilities than others). I should be able to add a little more context when I write about my first Identity and Access Management project (as promised in my &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;) but I won't talk about this "web access management" generalisation today because we'll lose focus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reading through the opinions of others, I noticed one thing in general; most toed the company line, which was not unexpected:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;People from &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/"&gt;Sun&lt;/a&gt; more or less agreed (probably because I said I liked how they are approaching it with OpenSSO).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;People from Oracle tended to use fine-grained access management as a baseline and expanded on it to include centralisation across all platforms with a common enterprise services view on everything.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Consultants didn't like having a new term to define something they've been doing for a long time and find it difficult to explain it to customers without confusing them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Those who have been around and know security but don't have as much of a vested interest in "entitlement management" like to take a more pragmatic approach in trying to segment the definitions into manageable portions that make sense while not discounting the term altogether.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Some of the more sales-oriented folk who don't have to sell a so-called "entitlement management" product didn't like having to explain the term because it distracts customers. Either that or they worry about the need to "shoe-horn" their product/s into the "entitlement management" hype if that's all they hear about when doing sales calls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;I more or less agree with what Nishant says in his blog post, but not Oracle's strategy in having 2 separate products. Then again, &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/id_mgmt/oes/index.html"&gt;Oracle Entitlements Server&lt;/a&gt; was brought on board via their acquisition of BEA so I can understand why they chose to keep it separate. It probably didn't make much financial sense to try to roll one product into the other. In their case, cash won out over idealism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ian Glazer has 4 problems with my hypothesis/definition. I'll address each here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Definitions that include a protocol are worrisome as they can overly restrict the definition"&lt;/span&gt; - He has a point. I should probably have said "an authorisation/access management policy standard". But in reality, my view is that it'll be XACML or some evolution of it. So if we wanted to make an academic definition, then we should probably not say "XACML". I'm not a fan of academic definitions though, otherwise I would have accepted the PhD offer from my university professor instead of joining IBM.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"I fear this definition is a reflection of products in the market today and not a statement on what “entitlement management” is meant to do&lt;/span&gt;" - Bingo! Ian Glazer's just summed up a lot of what I'm getting at. I DID define it as per what the access management vendors think it should mean. Whether this is what it should mean is up for debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"There is something missing from the definition – the policy enforcement point"&lt;/span&gt; - True, if you think the definition should include the terms: policy administration point (PAP), policy decision point (PDP) and policy enforcement point (PEP). Then again, I didn't have PAP or PDP in the hypothesis either. It comes down to whether one thinks that access management products as they exists today have PAPs, PDPs and PEPs. Even so, I personally think they should be in the finer details and not the definition. As an aside, access management products with fine-grained authorisation capabilities do have some PEPs. But PEPs are a little bit like connectors in provisioning products; one size does not fit all. There's usually some work that needs to be done to build a PEP that works for whatever system you are hooking into the access management product. The obvious exception here is the web reverse proxy component in access management products because they can assume a standard protocol is in place for web-based interactions. Of course, the web reverse proxy does coarse-grained access management (aka "web access management") by many common definitions. But now I'm just confusing the matter so I'll stop :-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"I have a problem with the phrase “entitlement management”...enterprises do not use the phrase “entitlement management” the same way we do"&lt;/span&gt; - It's because the vendors have managed to confuse customers. On one hand, we have the "entitlement management" that vendors use to describe run-time authorisation (which I've been referring to as access management). On the other hand, we have vendors that talk about certain aspects of IT GRC as being "entitlement management". Based on what Ian Glazer is saying, the companies he's talked to see it more from an IT GRC (or operational) perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ian Glazer goes on to say:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Using a single term (“entitlement management”) to span both the run-time authorization decisions as well as the necessary legwork of gathering, interpreting, and cleansing entitlements can lead to confusion."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yeah, tell me about it. Unfortunately, this is what we have today. It's an overloaded term which has already lead to confusion. At this point however, I'm unsure what Ian Glazer's position on the whole matter is. On one hand, he's helping round out the entitlement management definition from an access management (or run-time authorisation as he puts it) standpoint but on the other hand alluding to the fact that including this aspect in the overall definition can lead to confusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave Kearns doesn't agree with the hypothesis either. He also says he doesn't quite agree with Ian Glazer but I think he's actually disagreeing with Burton Group's perception of how enterprises define entitlement management. As I said, I'm not quite sure how Burton Group wants to define it. No matter. At least it prompted an opinion from Dave. But he goes on to say that he thinks entitlements should be tied to roles, not individuals:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Differentiate entitlement management from access management, also (else, why use both terms?). Individuals get access, roles/groups get entitlements. Access is granted to resources (hardware, applications, services, etc.) while entitlements specify what a particular role/group can do with or within that resource."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were to simplify this, I would interpret it as saying access and entitlements are more or less the same thing but with intricate, important differences in terms of how you look at it. You use one term for individuals and the other term for roles. I do agree with Dave from a conceptual point of view, but I don't see the need to differentiate individuals and roles here because we're getting very close to implementation specifics if we do and are in danger of adding to the confusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil Readshaw, an ex-colleague of mine from IBM and a worldwide authority on &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/solutions/security/products.html"&gt;Tivoli Security&lt;/a&gt; products says (via a &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html?showComment=1242219240000#c5113404010594327429"&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; in response to my previous post):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"I try to talk about authorization when taking a resource centric view (e.g. who can do something), and entitlements for a user centric view (e.g. what can this user do). In the end, it may be the same data making both of those determinations."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neil and Dave are talking about pretty much the same thing but I prefer Neil's version because it takes a higher-level approach and avoids specifics like mappings between individuals, roles and resources. Neil's statement about "the same data making both of those determinations" however, begs the question: why do we need a separate product to do entitlement management?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did find this statement by Ian Glazer interesting though:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"A bit of history – three or so years ago Burton Group, at a Catalyst, introduced the phrase “entitlement management” to include the run-time authorization decision process that most of the industry referred to as “fine-grained authorization.” At the time, this seemed about right. Flash forward to this year and our latest research and we have learned that our definition was too narrow."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The automatic assumption would be to blame Burton Group for this mess. But if you think about it, it's not really their fault. It's the fault of all the vendors for jumping on the bandwagon and hyping it to the point it's now out of control and we find ourselves having to come to terms with some sort of definition so we can see through the entitlement fog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Burton Group's views seem to have evolved and the vendors are stuck with a definition a couple of years old. My objection all along has been to vendors jumping on the bandwagon and trying to convince everyone that it's such a "must have", new concept to the point where customers need to buy their new "entitlement management" product before understanding what it really means. Worse still, a few went out and built brand new products and slapped the name "entitlement manager" (or a variant) on it. Would it not have made more sense to allow their access management products to evolve naturally with business needs and keep calling them "access management solutions"? Why did they have to go and confuse the matter and in the process force customers to support separate data and policy stores for products with a lot of overlapping capabilities?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we must have the term "entitlement management" hanging around in the lingo, we need to re-adjust our understanding of what it means. Once this is done, perhaps the vendors will rename/re-think their "entitlement management" products or roll them into their access management offerings like they should have done in the first place. Analysts like Ian Glazer should be able to help the market define this because they talk to companies about what they are actually doing. My objection isn't with the industry as a whole for talking about entitlement management. It's out in the wild now and nothing any of us can do will put the entitlement genie back in the bottle. But we shouldn't be re-branding an old concept just to sell more products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this discussion doesn't get us closer to a good definition, I'd like at least one thing to happen. If you are looking at an entitlement management product, please take a step back to understand what it is you actually want. You might already have the tools to do it. If not, make sure you're buying the right tool for the right reason. Not just because the vendor tells you it's their "entitlement management" product and you MUST have it because you are looking at user entitlements in your environment.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-661829386714735508?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/HDLYWFjRyXY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/661829386714735508/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=661829386714735508" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/661829386714735508?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/661829386714735508?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/HDLYWFjRyXY/spinning-entitlements.html" title="Spinning entitlements" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/spinning-entitlements.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUECQXc6eip7ImA9WxJREk8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-5952846974566386190</id><published>2009-05-12T21:55:00.011+10:00</published><updated>2009-05-14T00:07:40.912+10:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-05-14T00:07:40.912+10:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="entitlement management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="access management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="authorisation" /><title>The entitlement and access management equation</title><content type="html">Hopefully I'm not having a "mad-scientist moment"...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hypothesis:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Web access management = Coarse-grained access management&lt;br /&gt;Entitlement management = Fine-grained access management + XACML&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Argument:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've always poo poo-ed the whole notion of entitlement management and even &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/03/securent-bandwagon-getting-heavier.html"&gt;blogged about it&lt;/a&gt; some time ago (&lt;a href="http://blogs.sun.com/raskin/"&gt;Daniel Raskin&lt;/a&gt; from Sun had &lt;a href="http://blogs.sun.com/raskin/entry/entitlements_pyramid_scheme"&gt;similar thoughts&lt;/a&gt;). It's not because I don't think it's necessary; quite the contrary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good access management is crucial within any enterprise security architecture. It doesn't need to be the first thing you implement, but it should be pretty darned high on the list. It saves time and money in the long run and makes things so much easier to design, build and manage. Not to mention when the audit and compliance people come knocking, a lot of the information is available from a central location (I didn't say "all the information" because it's wishful thinking that any organisation can get every system's access controls centrally managed).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice something? I said access management, because that's all entitlement management really is; fine-grained access management. The main reason I've never particularly been taken by the whole notion of entitlement management was because I didn't agree with the industry's need to tag it as such. As far as I was concerned, it was just access management (or authorisation as some prefer to say). There was no need for a new name because we've all been doing access control for a long time right? Apparently not. The marketing machines started spinning not so long ago and all of a sudden, it's "&lt;a href="http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/magazineFeature/0,296894,sid14_gci1354848,00.html"&gt;New School Identity Management&lt;/a&gt;" (note: you may have to register to read the article).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The marketing people would have us believe that before entitlement management products came along, all the industry was capable of doing was web access management. That is, URL-level access controls. And if we needed to have finer-grained access controls, we would just throw our hands up and say "nup, product doesn't do that and we'll have to write our own or just ignore it". As &lt;a href="http://www.guykawasaki.com/"&gt;Guy Kawasaki&lt;/a&gt; would say, this is BULL-SHIITAKE! Or perhaps I joined the Identity and Access Management (IAM) world with rose-coloured glasses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Early on in my stint at &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt;, I worked for the Security and Privacy Services team. My very first Identity and Access Management (IAM) project was actually entitlement management focused with some aspects around web access management. At the time, the term "entitlement management" didn't exist the way it does today. As far as we were concerned, we were implementing access management; both coarse and fine-grained. And it was on this project that I first got my hands VERY dirty with &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/access-mgr-e-bus/"&gt;Tivoli Access Manager for e-business&lt;/a&gt; (TAM) and &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/directory-server/"&gt;Tivoli Directory Server&lt;/a&gt; (TDS). I'll talk more about this in a follow-up blog post or this will get too long and you'll all fall asleep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've had a few more opportunities to work with TAM (and all the other IBM Tivoli Security products) and it is because of my various experiences with the products that I haven't stopped wondering why companies like IBM bothered to build a completely brand new product to handle entitlement management (in IBM's case they now have &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/security-policy-mgr/"&gt;Tivoli Security Policy Manager&lt;/a&gt;). TAM does have a few potential issues when it comes to entitlement management as we know it today. For example:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you need to model contextual policies that rely on user attributes and getting your hands dirty scares you, then you'll find it a little bit challenging.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It doesn't have standard support for &lt;span class="body"&gt;eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML)&lt;/span&gt; out of the box.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It doesn't have a nice, standardised web services layer for other applications to integrate with (it does however, have APIs but these aren't typically what we would call "services").&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;That said, &lt;del&gt;TAM did have a XACML toolkit which&lt;/del&gt; (&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;update:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Neil Readshaw, one of my ex-colleagues at IBM and a worldwide authority on TAM assures me there was never any XACML support in TAM whatsoever. I must have been drinking too much of the kool-aid when I worked for IBM Tivoli&lt;/span&gt;) I'm sure product management and development could have rolled XACML support into the core product. They could also have very easily opened up the console (or even built a whole new one that was easier to use) to allow for easier administration of contextual access policies and even expanded on the policy model to do more fancy things (alternatively you can use a provisioning product to fill in the gaps). As for web services, that isn't too difficult to build into TAM. They built a whole &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/federated-identity-mgr/"&gt;federated identity management&lt;/a&gt; product on top of it. Why not an entitlement management one?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've seen Tivoli Security Policy Manager (TSPM) in action and it doesn't add very much on top of what TAM already does (and has been doing for years). And now, customers have to manage 2 separate policy stores for 2 products that do very similar things! You heard me right; TAM and TSPM have different policy stores and management interfaces. I realise I'm picking on IBM yet again, but this is true of many vendors that have separate web access management and entitlement management products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So why the sudden emergence of entitlement management when I insist it's been there all along? If you followed the &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/03/securent-bandwagon-getting-heavier.html"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; back to my earlier rants about entitlement management, you may have noticed I had a rather involved public conversation with &lt;a href="http://www.securent.com/"&gt;Securent&lt;/a&gt;'s (now &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/11/cisco-wants-identity-and-entitlement.html"&gt;owned&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="http://www.cisco.com/"&gt;Cisco&lt;/a&gt;) CEO &lt;a href="http://www.securent.com/company/executive_team/"&gt;Rajiv Gupta&lt;/a&gt;. Upon reading the discussion again, we seemed to be debating entitlement management vs fine-grained authorisation based on different definitions, assumptions and agendas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This suggests that what fine-grained authorisation lacked was a standard way to define everything; enter XACML. If we could talk about everything using common terms, an understanding of where everything fit and what a policy looks like, then we might get somewhere. The same goes for systems: there needed to be a way for them to leverage authorisation services in a standarised way. So I put forward that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;entitlement management is simply fine-grained authorisation + XACML&lt;/span&gt;. Standardisation and interoperability were the missing ingredients in taking fine-grained authorisation mainstream. Perhaps another ingredient was that many companies weren't ready to worry about fine-grained authorisation yet as they were still busy with provisioning and coarse-grained authorisation (i.e. web access management).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll finish with the following points:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you can't tell, I like TAM (but I'm biased because I cut my IAM teeth using it).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you have a web access management product, make an effort to sit down and evaluate whether you REALLY need an entitlement management product. If you also have a provisioning product on top of your web access management product, then you REALLY need to think about whether you REALLY need an entitlement management product. Is XACML support a good enough reason to buy a whole new product? Do you really need XACML at this stage of your project? Can you talk the vendor into building XACML support into their web access management product?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I like &lt;a href="http://blogs.sun.com/raskin/entry/entitlements_pyramid_scheme"&gt;Sun's approach&lt;/a&gt; of rolling fine-grained access control/entitlement management capabilities into their core web access management product (note: unfortunately, I have a feeling Oracle will throw OpenSSO aside in favour of their existing products - which I should point out are 2 separate products).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-5952846974566386190?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/nV-prak5kWA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/5952846974566386190/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=5952846974566386190" title="8 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5952846974566386190?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5952846974566386190?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/nV-prak5kWA/entitlement-and-access-management.html" title="The entitlement and access management equation" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">8</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/05/entitlement-and-access-management.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEQERnc5eCp7ImA9WxJTGU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-3931828061670721869</id><published>2009-04-29T02:30:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2009-04-29T02:31:47.920+10:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-04-29T02:31:47.920+10:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data leakage" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="dave arbeitel" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="siem" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="role management" /><title>CA continues to round out their security portfolio</title><content type="html">Lots of interesting things happened last week in the information security space. This was largely due to the &lt;a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/2009/us/index.htm"&gt;RSA Conference&lt;/a&gt; and the number of company announcements that coincide with it each year. Of course, &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/"&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt; stole much of the thunder by &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/018363"&gt;announcing&lt;/a&gt; their acquisition of &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/"&gt;Sun Microsystems&lt;/a&gt;. I've chosen not to comment on it because there's enough speculation out there (some informed, some less so). Also, I would have sounded like a broken record because any analysis on my part would have sounded very similar to &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/03/what-does-ibm-acquisition-of-sun-mean.html"&gt;my piece&lt;/a&gt; on the potential &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; and Sun deal that eventually &lt;a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/100452,ibmsun-microsystems-deal-breaks-down.aspx"&gt;fell through&lt;/a&gt;, but with an Oracle spin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From a large Identity and Access Management (IAM) vendor standpoint, the most interesting piece of news actually came from &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt;. In fact, the only bit of IAM vendor news came from CA because the others didn't announce anything at all (I don't count "what the heck is going to happen to the Sun IAM stack" as news because at this point it's all speculation and is very much dependent on what Mr Ellison and his cohorts decide to do once the deal closes and the dust has settled).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/CA"&gt;written&lt;/a&gt; about how CA has been running faster than their competitors since late last year and they haven't stopped if the latest announcements are anything to go by. They actually made 3 announcements around RSA; the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=202736"&gt;first&lt;/a&gt; was a pointer to Dave Hansen's (Corporate Senior Vice President and General Manager of CA’s Security Management business unit) keynote at RSA (the video of the keynote is &lt;a href="http://media.omediaweb.com/rsa2009/webcast_exclusive.htm?id=3_3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=203737"&gt;second&lt;/a&gt; I'll talk about in the next paragraph and the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=204162"&gt;third&lt;/a&gt; related to a survey conducted by CA which Dave also referenced in his keynote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=203737"&gt;second&lt;/a&gt; announcement was the most interesting as it involved news around their portfolio, where they announced 3 new products:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/log-management.aspx"&gt;Enterprise Log Manager&lt;/a&gt; - a brand new, internally developed product&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/Product.aspx?ID=8247"&gt;Role &amp;amp; Compliance Manager&lt;/a&gt; - from their &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html"&gt;acquisition&lt;/a&gt; of Eurekify&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?id=8299"&gt;DLP&lt;/a&gt; - from their &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/ca-acquires-orchestria.html"&gt;acquisition&lt;/a&gt; of Orchestria&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Note: The DLP acronym generally stands for Data Leakage/Loss Prevention&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I spoke to &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/about/content.aspx?cid=192200"&gt;Dave Arbeitel&lt;/a&gt; (Vice President of Product Management for the Security Management Business Unit) about the new products late last week and got to find out a little bit more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hadn't actually noticed this but Dave pointed out that CA's approach to security management is now solution-focused and grouped as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/data-protection.aspx"&gt;Data &amp;amp; Resource Protection&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/identity-management.aspx"&gt;Identity Lifecycle Management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/web-security-management.aspx"&gt;Secure Web Business Enablement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/it-security-management.aspx"&gt;Security Information Management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;The large IAM vendors are split between being product-focused and solution-focused and the approach taken is very much dependent on the overall company strategy. One thing I should note is that being solution-focused is fine as long as you don't get too smart for your own good and confuse customers (as I've accused IBM of doing on occasion).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each of the 3 new products fits into one of the solution categories. My interpretation of the solution areas is that CA seems to have grouped what they deem to be the most complementary products together. The most interesting thing to note is that they've grouped &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/access-control.aspx"&gt;CA Access Control &lt;/a&gt;together with CA DLP. This makes sense and is evidence that CA gets DLP and are starting to implement a strategy around how IAM and DLP can work together effectively. I'm not saying they get it completely yet, but this is not necessarily a bad thing. The industry as a whole doesn't quite understand the IAM/DLP/Data Security overlap at the moment. At least CA are trying to work it out by putting their money where their mouth is. But I'd caution them against putting too much of a marketing spin on things because people (like me) will call them out when required.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They key thing Dave wanted to get across was that CA has a broader security management strategy and these product announcements are simply steps along the execution path. This has been apparent to those of us following the market over the past couple of months and if CA keeps going, they're going to do just fine as long as they execute well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn't get too much into product features of the Role &amp;amp; Compliance Manager and DLP products with Dave because Eurekify and Orchestria had relatively mature products. There wasn't much point in trying to pick those products apart. The only noteworthy change was that CA combined Eurekify's products into the single product (for those that are unaware, Eurekify had a separate compliance management product that integrated with their role management product). Dave also noted that the new products were not just a re-brand. CA's done additional development work to add functionality and integration points into the existing CA IAM suite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While we're on the point of integration into the existing IAM suite, I'd like to pinpoint the supposed deep integration and "identity-awareness" of the DLP product. I had a chuckle watching Dave's keynote (and it wasn't from watching the almost cringe-worthy parody of "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office"&gt;The Office&lt;/a&gt;"). During the demo, they supposedly showed identity management and data security integration. For anyone who hadn't seen a DLP product in action, it looked pretty slick/impressive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As someone who has demonstrated a DLP product hundreds of times (maybe even thousands - I lost count after a few months) I can tell you that most of the demo only showed the DLP product in action. The solitary identity bit was the de-provisioning of the user (Dave) from a role (which took away access to the SAP application in the demo). Apart from the fact that CA Identity Manager probably has a standard connector into CA DLP to provision and de-provision access for users, they weren't doing anything in the demo that anyone else couldn't do by taking a decent provisioning product and building a connector into a good DLP product. Unfortunately CA, this isn't what I'd call identity-aware-DLP. I realise I may be dismissing other potentially (but unknown to me) nice integration points between DLP and CA's Identity and Access Management suite but I'm going based on the demo and calling it as I see it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did try to dig a little deeper into Enterprise Log Manager's features however, mainly because it's brand-spanking new. The only problem with Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) products is that you can't really get a handle on how good a product is until you get your hands on it. Dave assured me that installation is a breeze and that it can even be deployed as a virtual appliance, which I have no reason to doubt. From a technical standpoint, this is not difficult to achieve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good SIEM products tend to be measured by the ease of integration, number of standard collectors to other systems and reporting capabilities. The questions I asked Dave were driven by these factors and I gathered that Enterprise Log Manager is still very much a 1.0 product (that is, fairly immature). As an example, Dave mentioned that the product was tightly coupled with their IAM solutions. CA is probably referring to the fact that they can reference policies defined in some of their IAM products (although I'm not sure how deep or wide this integration runs) and have Enterprise Log Manager report on policy violations. But from a customer standpoint, I would expect that this also means I can point Enterprise Log Manager at any CA IAM product and have it be able to collect all relevant user events and report on them without much effort. Unfortunately, this is not the case (I'm sure CA will correct me if I misinterpreted Dave's comments). There needs to be some level of work done to have collectors that can pull information out of the other CA IAM products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say there aren't any standard collectors, but I got the impression that this covers the main operating systems and some standard security devices but not much else. The thing about a lack of collectors however, is that the issue fixes itself over time because the more a product is deployed, the longer the list of standard collectors gets. CA needs to build standard collectors for their other IAM products sooner rather than later (I would start with Access Manager, Access Control and DLP). You cannot claim to have tight integration with your own suite of products if you don't at least have these products sorted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reporting capabilities seem to be a little more fleshed out. The vision for reporting is that customers use a combination of standard reports, services and new report packs that CA sends out from time to time. The list of standard reports includes many of the usual regulatory suspects, but in my experience these types of standard reports tend to need customisation to meet business needs. For customers that don't feel like using the standard reporting interface, there is a level of integration with SAP BusinessObjects Crystal Reports.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not trying to belittle CA's SIEM efforts. They obviously see SIEM as part of their strategy, but they are a little late to the party on this. It doesn't preclude them from trying however, and at least they have now arrived at the party. I think they knew they weren't going to get a market-leading product at the first attempt. They made the decision to build the product from scratch and they would have been foolish or delusional to expect a world-beater at the first attempt. It does seem a little puzzling why they didn't choose to acquire a leading SIEM player and went with the build approach instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As is the norm with these discussions, I tend to ask about things not related to the news at hand as we move past the main items of discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My first unrelated question related to the IDFocus product they &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=186938"&gt;acquired&lt;/a&gt; and whether any part of that solution made it into the 3 new products. The answer was no because even though it has some level of potential integration with role and compliance efforts, it fits best into the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/user-provisioning.aspx"&gt;Identity Manager&lt;/a&gt; product where it helps to link business processes with provisioning requirements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My second unrelated question was around the notion of having a central policy management point for all the products (like &lt;a href="http://www.symantec.com/"&gt;Symantec&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.mcafee.com/"&gt;McAfee&lt;/a&gt; are trying to do with their own products). The point of this question was to gauge if CA's strategy includes the centralisation of policy management. I didn't expect much because it's actually a VERY difficult thing to do and very few of the large IAM suite vendors have the appetite to invest in this area. I'm not talking about the engineering aspect, which is simple when compared to the actual analysis behind how one would rationalise all the different ways policies could be represented and trying to figure out how to apply an over-arching model to a large portfolio of products. Add DLP to the mix and it gets exponentially more complex because of all the data-centric requirements. For the record, Dave's answer was that the focus shouldn't really be on having a central policy store or management point. It's more about having the right processes occurring between the IAM products to ensure the correct policies are in place at the points where they need to be applied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Overall, I think CA's got the right idea in terms of strategy. Whether their products are able to deliver remains to be seen. They've got some serious integration work to do so they can get a more coherent story out there and have products that deliver on the promise they are showing. CA does have a trump card to play that their competitors don't have (yet), and that's the DLP product. As I've said before, &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/identity-and-data-security-go-hand-in.html"&gt;identity and data security go hand in hand&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-3931828061670721869?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/UDk4dimjCTE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/3931828061670721869/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=3931828061670721869" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/3931828061670721869?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/3931828061670721869?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/UDk4dimjCTE/ca-continues-to-round-out-their.html" title="CA continues to round out their security portfolio" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/04/ca-continues-to-round-out-their.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0YFRn07cCp7ImA9WxVbGUk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-7550866421002870068</id><published>2009-04-06T01:17:00.023+10:00</published><updated>2009-04-06T02:31:57.308+10:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-04-06T02:31:57.308+10:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="telco" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><title>Why do large companies like helping phishers?</title><content type="html">It was &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2006/11/now-for-compelling-event.html"&gt;stupid bank behaviour&lt;/a&gt; that compelled me to start blogging a few years ago. I've also &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/bank"&gt;noted the questionable ways&lt;/a&gt; which banks in general deal with customers from a security standpoint (although my bank's recently cleaned up its act somewhat).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its not just the banks that help to facilitate phishing scams with their antiquated, unsafe processes when dealing with customers. Almost every large institution that holds personal data does at least one thing in an unsafe, insecure way. And almost every organisation that has a call centre forces us to divulge personal (and often account security) details to the person we speak to on the phone before they are "allowed" to access our account. This is not particularly safe either as the person on the other end of the line could very well take down the details and use them later (aka the most common argument against offshoring call centres). But there is a certain level of trust because most of the time, we call a number that we have used in the past and know with 99% certainty belongs to the organisation we mean to be dealing with. It's also the way the process works and we have learned to live with it despite the flaws.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A large amount of the blame here lies in the imbalance when dealing with personal information and the organisations we provide them to in return for a service. Companies have way too much power (and consumers little or no control) when it comes to our information, but I'm going off-topic here as I don't mean to be talking about Vendor Relationship Management (VRM). Back to the topic at hand...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recently contacted my mobile service provider (from here on in, known as "Stupid Phone Company (SPC)") to change something about my account. First of all, the IVR system made me authenticate myself before patching me through to the warm body at the other end of the line who then proceeded to ask me exactly the same questions I had just provided to the system. I wasn't in the mood to rant at the person as they weren't to blame. They were simply doing their job. Process fail number 1: Why bother having the IVR system waste my time and authenticate me when the fool at the other end of the line is going to ask me the same thing again SPC?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, the person couldn't help me. They said I had to notify the company in writing either via snail mail (what decade are we in SPC?) or via a form on their website. I took the online form option and didn't hear back for a few days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, I received this in my inbox:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Hi Ian,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope you are doing fine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’d like to help you Ian, however; for this I will need to access your account and currently I am unable to access your account due to security reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order for me to access your account and check the details on your account, please confirm the security details given below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PIN (1st and 2nd digit)&lt;br /&gt;Or&lt;br /&gt;Full address with postcode&lt;br /&gt;Date of birth&lt;br /&gt;Method of payment&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I assure you I'll be able to sort this out as soon as I receive this information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look forward to your response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind regards,&lt;br /&gt;(Name redacted)"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point, the only form of assurance I had that this came from a legitimate source was the "from" address in the email header. This however, isn't exactly difficult to fake (as my first year University lecturer demonstrated to us in ohhh, week 1 of "Computing101"). In other words, I have no assurance that it's from SPC. In fact, it even reads like a phishing email.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being the paranoid security person that I am, I picked the phone up and called customer service to validate that they had indeed sent me an email and to double-check the email address I had to send the reply to. After questioning the poor customer service person and eventually getting them to agree that this process is ridiculous and insecure, they still insisted they could not get around the process and that this was the only way of getting my issue resolved because my request could not be met over the phone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it seems that this is the standard procedure when one fills in an online form with this company. In which case, they are exposing their customers to a security nightmare by building phishing-like behaviour into a standard procedure that all their customers will probably need to use at some point. Did you hear that SPC? Your BAU process is the same as the one phishers use!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've actually visited this company in a professional capacity (in one of my previous jobs) and can confirm they do indeed have a security procedures and operations department. In other words, "we don't pay people to think about these things" is not a viable excuse. Someone there needs to be fired (and it's not the customer service department).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-7550866421002870068?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/pA1KIEuYoU4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/7550866421002870068/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=7550866421002870068" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7550866421002870068?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7550866421002870068?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/pA1KIEuYoU4/why-do-large-companies-like-helping.html" title="Why do large companies like helping phishers?" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/04/why-do-large-companies-like-helping.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A08HSH05fSp7ImA9WxVUFE0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-8976472907074987082</id><published>2009-03-19T01:11:00.086+11:00</published><updated>2009-03-19T07:57:19.325+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-03-19T07:57:19.325+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="sun" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ibm" /><title>What does an IBM acquisition of Sun mean for Identity Management?</title><content type="html">IBM employees: hands up those of you expecting to tell management to stick their redundancy packages where "the Sun don't shine"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sun employees: hands up those of you who walked into a meeting this morning and came out to be greeted by people with spray cans and paint tins eager to paint you IBM-blue, itching to call you a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smurfs"&gt;smurf&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In case you've been in a cave today, the rumour ("rumor" for my American friends) doing the rounds is that &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; is in &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123735970806267921.html"&gt;talks to&lt;/a&gt; acquire &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/"&gt;Sun&lt;/a&gt;. I should stress that is a rumour, but I suppose everyone thinks the fact that the &lt;a href="http://wsj.com/"&gt;Wall Street Journal&lt;/a&gt; is one of the news outlets reporting on this rumour gives it some additional weight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wasn't going to bother writing anything given that nothing has actually happened and I'm not sure how this is a no-brainer move for IBM, but a few people have emailed asking what I think. So the easiest way to respond was to post this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's no shortage of coverage across news outlets, blogs and in &lt;a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=IBM+sun"&gt;Twitterville&lt;/a&gt;. Everyone's talking about the big picture. &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=14817"&gt;Larry Dignan&lt;/a&gt; (thinks it makes sense) and &lt;a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gardner/?p=2857"&gt;Dana Gardner&lt;/a&gt; (doesn't think it makes sense) have more insightful commentary than most stories I've read. Commentators generally mention data centers, servers (i.e. hardware), cloud computing, professional services, Java, IDEs (NetBeans vs. Eclipse - consensus opinion seems to think NetBeans will go the way of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo"&gt;Dodo&lt;/a&gt;), Unix (AIX vs. Solaris) and open source. Many of them are saying that it makes sense in a macro-company kind of way. I however, will be focusing on a specific something else where I don't think it makes any sense at all. Then again, in the grander scheme of things there's usually some sort of sacrifice when these things happen, especially today when the flavour of the microsecond is all things cloud-related and not un-sexy-enterprise-off-the-shelf-run-it-in-your-own-data-center software.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My point is that very few reports have touched on something that should be on your mind if you work in enterprise software: what's going to happen to the software stack? There are overlaps EVERYWHERE! There are too many products to talk about in detail but IBM cannot simply throw Sun's stack away because of the backlash they're going to get from customers and the community at large.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If IBM does acquire Sun, they sure as heck aren't doing it for the software (except for perhaps additional "control" over Java). And they sure as hell aren't doing it because Tivoli's run out of role management vendors to acquire and liked VAAU (which became Sun Role Manager) so much they went to &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/ibm/sjp/"&gt;Sam Palmisano&lt;/a&gt; and told him to buy Sun as punishment for getting to VAAU before them. Does this mean they'll just throw Sun's software division away? Of course not! That would be stupid on IBM's part (and despite what &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/ibm"&gt;I've written about in the past&lt;/a&gt;, I don't think IBM are stupid). They will more than likely run everything separately initially, figure out what bits and pieces fill missing holes in the IBM software portfolio and then "blue-rinse" (rebrand) them. The overlapping pieces will be absorbed into the IBM blue-ether and have useful components re-used within existing IBM software and the perceived useless bits discarded. It's IBM's modus operandi (just look at what they did with their DB2-related acquisitions). It's also what &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/"&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt; does, so at least someone else thinks it makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here's where I'm going to head down the rabbit hole, because this is all based on a rumour. In other words, it's speculation and anything said is simply mental masturbation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The least affected IBM software brand will be &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/"&gt;Lotus&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/"&gt;Rational&lt;/a&gt; should be relatively unscathed. The other three IBM software brands (&lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/"&gt;Tivoli&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/websphere/"&gt;WebSphere&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/"&gt;Information Management aka DB2&lt;/a&gt;) however, will notice a few changes. None will be affected more than WebSphere, but Tivoli comes a close second in the upheaval stakes. This is where the IBM's Identity and Access Management (IAM) suite sits, which is what I'm going to focus on now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first win for IBM will be in the marketing stakes. I don't mean this in terms of positive karma or PR, but more in terms of the marketing talent at Sun. This is because Sun has been better at marketing, community building and listening to customers than IBM has within the IAM space. Now, assuming IBM doesn't fire the whole IAM marketing team they'll be inheriting a very strong team of people (yeah I know their engineers aren't too shabby either). In my opinion, Sun understood the evolution in marketing that's been occurring much earlier than IBM and hence are ahead in the game from this standpoint. Actually, pretty much every other big IAM vendor understood this before IBM. In IBM's defence, they are starting to pick up their game and are running with it wholeheartedly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On to the products. I thought of doing a full comparison by listing each company's full list of IAM products, but then I started writing down IBM's &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/solutions/security/products.html"&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; from the website (in case I missed anything by relying on my memory) and it gave me a headache (Side note to IBM: WTF?! The list has gotten much more complicated and longer. And to add to the confusion, you even list "products" that are actually solutions made from combining different underlying products. If you are able to give an ex-employee who used to architect, implement and sell this stuff for you a headache when going to your website, what do you think customers are going to think? Or maybe I just don't have the mental capacity to read introductory product information about IBM software). Conversely, Sun's &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/software/index.jsp?cat=Identity%20Management&amp;amp;tab=3"&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; is much easier to follow (although whoever runs the website should probably place Access Manager and Federation Manager in a separate list noting that they've been combined to form OpenSSO). Here's the core Sun IAM list with commentary:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sun Directory Server - IBM has Tivoli Directory Server.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sun Identity Compliance Manager - IBM does not have a direct equivalent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sun Identity Manager - IBM has Tivoli Identity Manager.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sun OpenSSO Enterprise - IBM has Tivoli Federated Identity Manager and Tivoli Access Manager for e-business (which is actually used as a component within the Federated Identity Manager product, but I won't complicate things here).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sun Role Manager - IBM does not have a direct equivalent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Thanks to Sun's simpler list, there's a relatively clear picture to work with. I should note that IBM has quite a few more IAM products that I've listed (IBM lists them as part of the Security Management suite), but I'll ignore them because a potential acquisition of Sun should not affect them too much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's abundantly clear here is that Sun Role Manager and Sun Identity Compliance Manager (don't confuse this with &lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/compliance-insight-mgr/"&gt;Tivoli Compliance Insight Manager&lt;/a&gt; because the IBM product addresses different requirements) look to be safe from the chopping block. IBM will simply take the 2 products (aside: my understanding is that Compliance Manager is actually derived from Role Manager - Sun people, please correct me if I'm wrong) and "blue-rinse" them. Their names will likely stay the same with "Sun" being replaced with "IBM Tivoli". Either that or IBM will combine them and call it "Tivoli Identity, Access and Role Compliance Manager" or some long-a**ed name that forms yet another T-acronym. At least you can kind of pronounce TIARCM, albeit getting tongue twisted in the process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the other Sun IAM products, their futures are at risk if this rumour proves to be true. IBM's spent shed-loads of money acquiring, "blue-rinsing" and subsequently developing their equivalent products. It's VERY unlikely that IBM will throw that investment away only to repeat the exercise again with Sun's stack. In other words, I have a feeling that in the longer term, Sun Directory Server, Sun Identity Manager and Sun OpenSSO Enterprise are seriously in danger of being "sunsetted" (yeah, I cringed too when I typed it). Interestingly enough, many people are of the opinion that Sun's Identity Manager is a superior product to Tivoli Identity Manager. Conversely, the reverse is true when comparing Federation/Access Management products. Opinions such as these are of course subjective and depend on the requirements at hand and people's personal preferences. The truth is that they are all pretty solid, mature products in their own right so there's no easy answer in making a decision to pick Sun's version over IBM's or vice versa. I see 3 logical possibilities here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM "sunsets" the relevant overlapping Sun IAM products, which will mean that they'll continue to support existing customers but gradually migrate them over to the Tivoli versions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM markets the Sun IAM products as open source alternatives to their enterprise incarnations.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM re-hashes the rather unsuccessful "Express" line of products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;Option 1 will be the least popular alternative in the eyes of customers. But it means BIG services opportunities for IBM and IBM's channel of business partners which provide consulting/implementation services. From an IBM perspective, they would be making the sacrifice early on for the greater good of the company and taking the PR and initial professional services (in having to give away free services for the migration to prevent angry mobs from gathering) hit that comes with it (like they had to do when they &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/encentuate"&gt;acquired Encentuate&lt;/a&gt;). This is the "rip the band aid off quickly" approach, but it also means lots of job cuts with the sales and marketing teams being first out the door.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Option 2 is the easy way out, but is also the most expensive. Sun already markets their product line as being open. The heavy-lifting part of the marketing's been done and all IBM has to do is see it through while changing the product names. Unfortunately, this is expensive from an ongoing operational and development standpoint. They may choose to absorb the cost as a "good karma tax", so this option could very well fly. The upheaval to existing Sun teams and customers would also be mitigated. This is the "don't rock the boat" option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Option 3 is the "marketing blue-rinse" option. It's more or less a hybrid approach of options 1 and 2. IBM will be looking to cut the fat somewhat from a jobs perspective, but not as drastically as they would if they went with option 1. From a technical standpoint, this will be very similar to option 2. The difference is that they bring the products back in-house and promote them as the "light IAM options" for small to medium business. This was exactly the target market for their Express initiative and they may look to re-energise those efforts . Ironically, Tivoli Identity Manager Express was a response to the market perception that Sun Identity Manager is easier to deploy and manage. If this happens, I don't think the Sun products will survive beyond a year or 2. IBM's Express experiment has proven that customers that buy Tivoli still like to choose the heavier version "in case" they need the features and perceived superior stability. Remember, this is not to say the Sun products aren't stable or fully featured. I'm just saying that in this instance, that's what the marketing materials are going to imply and how the sales teams will be selling the products. If not, IBM would look pretty stupid for continuing development on 2 equally good products in parallel that serve the exact same purpose (in the eyes of the customer). If "Express" doesn't sell, this option is simply the less painful, more drawn out, more expensive version of option 1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No matter which option IBM picks, one thing is certain. They're going to run a fine-tooth comb over the Sun product set, pilfer all the useful bits and roll them in to the existing Tivoli product set. This is good for Tivoli customers but it'll take time for the functionality to start appearing given the speed that IBM moves at.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think competitors like Oracle, &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.novell.com/"&gt;Novell&lt;/a&gt; will be quaking in their boots though. From an IAM standpoint, any acquisition only increases IBM's market share. It doesn't really give them a big advantage when it comes to product features or functionality. Then again, significantly increased market share is nothing to be sneezed at.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the rumour proves to be based on solid information and something does happen, the real winners (other than IBM) will be existing IBM customers. The biggest losers? Existing Sun employees and customers, at least from a software perspective.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-8976472907074987082?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/S_4sWfiK914" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/8976472907074987082/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=8976472907074987082" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8976472907074987082?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8976472907074987082?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/S_4sWfiK914/what-does-ibm-acquisition-of-sun-mean.html" title="What does an IBM acquisition of Sun mean for Identity Management?" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/03/what-does-ibm-acquisition-of-sun-mean.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0UNSH8zfCp7ImA9WxVVGEo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-2671672955603478878</id><published>2009-03-13T00:58:00.019+11:00</published><updated>2009-03-13T02:21:39.184+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-03-13T02:21:39.184+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="systems management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ibm" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="bigfix" /><title>IBM gets more end-pointy</title><content type="html">To be specific, I should say &lt;a href="http://www.iss.net/"&gt;IBM ISS&lt;/a&gt;. This time, they're getting in bed with with &lt;a href="http://www.bigfix.com/"&gt;BigFix&lt;/a&gt; (the press release is &lt;a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/26878.wss"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). Here's the first paragraph of the release:&lt;blockquote&gt;"Today, IBM announced a first-of-a-kind endpoint security offering, IBM Proventia Endpoint Secure Control (ESC), that is designed to enable enterprises to escape from the constraints of vendor lock-in and to enhance endpoint security, compliance and operations at a lower cost. This new endpoint security offering is delivered by IBM Internet Security Systems (IBM ISS) leveraging IBM's depth in security experience and technology from BigFix, Inc. for endpoint security management."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It sounds like it's some sort of OEM agreement with BigFix to offer up security-focused, endpoint systems management. Essentially, it's to allow for organisations to manage all the bits and bobs of software that end up having to be deployed on endpoints (laptops, desktops etc.) and become a nightmare to manage over time. IBM harps on about "vendor lock-in" and stress that having ESC/BigFix in place makes it much easier to swap out software and replace it with new stuff (&lt;a href="http://www.mcafee.com/"&gt;McAfee &lt;/a&gt;AV with &lt;a href="http://www.symantec.com/"&gt;Symantec&lt;/a&gt;'s, for example). Sounds nice in theory and marketing slides. Not so simple in reality, even with a shiny new toy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I won't get into the minefield relating to it being a good idea to have some sort of common security policy management or decision point across everything (which is what Symantec and McAfee are trying to do across their bag of toys) that this doesn't address, but I'm sure IBM are working on that. By the way IBM ISS, the boys at Tivoli might have some stuff that you could use? You should try talking to them...which brings me to my next point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can't help but notice that there's some level of overlap with what IBM Tivoli provides in the way of their systems management software, but this is IBM so it doesn't surprise me that the left hand doesn't seem to be talking to the right hand. It's business as usual and somewhere within IBM, a bunch of people in Tivoli are going to be wondering why IBM ISS keeps trying to compete with them. To be fair, the IBM Tivoli stuff isn't as endpoint-focused when it comes to security and isn't as security-focused when it comes to endpoints (this is confusing unless you know the Tivoli products -  you IBM Tivoli people know what I'm talking about don't you). The press release does make a reference to Tivoli:&lt;blockquote&gt;"The new tool will complement IBM Tivoli's operational desktop management offerings with robust endpoint operational security solutions, allowing customers the ability to address end point security. IBM Proventia ESC will also provide key endpoint security audit data to IBM Tivoli Security Information and Event Manager (TSIEM), further strengthening TSIEM's enterprise-wide compliance reporting capabilities."&lt;/blockquote&gt;But that statement sounds to me like it was thrown in to "keep Tivoli happy". TSIEM could get its endpoint security audit data from any other competitive endpoint source. It doesn't need ESC specifically! Of course, the marketing department will throw in comments like it'll be better integrated and have "out of the box connectors" but we know how true these things are. Unless development is managed by the same brand, this is extremely difficult to achieve in an adequate amount of time. My money's on the fact that the implementation partner is going to have to be the one that picks up the pieces if/when the integration at a client's site is required.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Strategically however, this move makes sense. If your memories go back to late 2007 (yeah I know that's quite some time ago), you may remember &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/11/ibm-dips-its-toe-into-data-security.html"&gt;IBM ISS dipping its toe into data security&lt;/a&gt; by offering managed services using a combination of &lt;a href="http://www.verdasys.com/"&gt;Verdasys&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.fidelissecurity.com/"&gt;Fidelis&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.pgp.com/"&gt;PGP&lt;/a&gt; software. I'm not sure they got very much traction out of that initiative, but this is a continuation of an increasing focus on the endpoint by IBM ISS, and they want to manage it all too:&lt;blockquote&gt;"'The killer application in endpoint security is management,' said Dan Powers, vice president of business development at IBM Internet Security Systems."&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don't really agree that management is "the killer app" in the endpoint game, but it's certainly a key piece. The likes of &lt;a href="http://www.sophos.com/"&gt;Sophos&lt;/a&gt;, Symantec, McAfee, &lt;a href="http://www.checkpoint.com/"&gt;Checkpoint&lt;/a&gt; have all been progressively coming out with their own versions of "one agent to rule them all" and wrapping a management layer around it all. I suppose IBM ISS didn't want to get left behind because &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;when it comes to data security, if you ignore the endpoint you've lost the game&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-2671672955603478878?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/qW9x_gFKrVw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/2671672955603478878/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=2671672955603478878" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2671672955603478878?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2671672955603478878?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/qW9x_gFKrVw/ibm-gets-more-end-pointy.html" title="IBM gets more end-pointy" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/03/ibm-gets-more-end-pointy.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEQCQHw_eyp7ImA9WxVWGUg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-7829420855524544417</id><published>2009-03-02T10:41:00.007+11:00</published><updated>2009-03-02T11:06:01.243+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-03-02T11:06:01.243+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ibm" /><title>Did IBM actually listen to me?</title><content type="html">Or was it a coincidence? I'm not sure because I never did hear back from anyone within &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; in response to &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/02/open-letter-to-ibm-your-communities.html"&gt;my open letter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The letter I speak of was a rant where I openly asked IBM why they thought it was appropriate to list member email addresses on their newly created &lt;a href="https://www.ibm.com/communities/service/html/allcommunities"&gt;communities site&lt;/a&gt; by default and not allow for an opt-out. What they really should have done was to set all details as private by default and allow people to opt-in with regards to their details being made public. The fact there was not even an opt-out in relation to email addresses being displayed was unacceptable in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been away for the past week snowboarding in the French Alps (I just had to throw that bit of detail in - curse me if you must) so I've been a little bit out of it. In trying to "plug" myself back into society, I decided to have a look at the IBM communities site for a laugh. I even contemplated posting my rant to the forum due to their lack of any response. But to my surprise, I noticed something different: email addresses are no longer displayed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't seem to see any changes in being able to set privacy controls, so the interface is exactly the same. But some educated individual's either decided that public emails were a bad idea or they read my rant and did something about it. Makes you all warm and fuzzy doesn't it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other news, I'm still getting a shed-load of spam to the email address that IBM made public. Thanks IBM.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-7829420855524544417?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/hKQgf9bWyMc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/7829420855524544417/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=7829420855524544417" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7829420855524544417?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7829420855524544417?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/hKQgf9bWyMc/did-ibm-actually-listen-to-me.html" title="Did IBM actually listen to me?" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/03/did-ibm-actually-listen-to-me.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcBQ3c8fyp7ImA9WxVXGUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-7259327992821946322</id><published>2009-02-19T04:24:00.021+11:00</published><updated>2009-02-19T06:07:32.977+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-02-19T06:07:32.977+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data leakage" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><title>Don't give them a reason to fire you</title><content type="html">Someone I know is currently being "done" for potential data theft. I should note the potentially biased and subjective view on my part given I know this person but I'll try to maintain some level of objectivity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This person is currently suspended and under investigation following an incident. What did this person do wrong? Their mistake was simply to be ignorant rather than intentionally do anything malicious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of us in information security know better than to copy and print a bunch of stuff (unless there's a solid business justification to do it) because any organisation with an adequate security team will start wondering what the heck you're doing. Unfortunately, most people are not in the information security profession so it's not as "common sense" as we may all think it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This person decided to talk to me because I'm the "security guy". They asked me what they should do. My answer was to just tell the truth because they weren't actually trying to do anything malicious. This person didn't even know how to write files to a DVD a few months ago let alone know what computing-related activities could be deemed as inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consider these points:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Most people in the world are not security geeks. Heck, most aren't even technology literate to the standard most of us assume is in place.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If employees are simply told what they should not be doing and that they can potentially be monitored, they will be more wary about being perceived as doing the wrong thing. In other words, they will be more vigilant about their behaviour because they've been &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;educated&lt;/span&gt;. It also means that companies will have more resources available to catch the people actually trying to do the wrong thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I won't divulge too much about the incident for obvious reasons (so any specifics regarding the actual incident stops right now) but I do have an opinion on what the root cause of this incident was:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lack of security awareness training on the part of the organisation in question.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This organisation that this person works for is a large multi-national. I won't mention what industry but it's one where there's copious amounts of sensitive data lying around. So it doesn't surprise me that they have some level of monitoring in place. It is the responsibility of each and every organisation to make sure employees are properly trained in a basic level of information security awareness. It's not good enough that it says what they should not be doing somewhere in the fine print of their employment contract because no one ever reads those things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, when an employee is being pulled up for a potential security incident, it is the organisation's fault if they did not ensure that all employees  were made aware of adequate behaviour when dealing with company data and information. For those wondering, no this person's soon to be ex-employer does not do information security awareness training. I'm guessing it's because employees cannot make the company money while they are being trained in non-core business related activities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's actually an additional dimension to this whole episode. Like many organisations in the world today, they are undergoing a round of redundancies. This person was probably already on that list (this is what they tell me), but now it's even worse. They are suspended pending the investigation. And there's no doubt that if this person is cleared, it's "bye bye" anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is that as with any redundancy, there is a severance package to make things slightly easier. But guess what someone dismissed for misconduct gets? That's right, absolutely nothing. So now the situation is worse. Not only is this person being made redundant, they will probably not get their redundancy package because of this so called "misconduct". Way to go big corporation. Turn up the investigations and justify not paying people by saying they attempted to steal a bunch of sensitive information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When people are scared about being put on the chopping block, what's their first instinct? That's right, they go through their systems and back up all their personal things. We can argue that there should not be any personal things on company assets, but it gets very difficult especially if you have worked for a company for some time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ones with more sense don't touch any company material. But there are those who aren't actually trying to steal anything but simply think certain documents are useful to have in their "kit-bag". You know what I'm talking about: "cheat sheets", document templates and the like. This is all too common an occurence and is actually part of the reason there's a so-called "data leakage" industry. It's commonly termed "inadvertant leakage of information". The assumption that it's not harmful to copy certain things if there is no malicious intent is an incorrect assumption on the employee's part, but they don't know any better. Once again, education and awareness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The more common problem lies with the information where there's a fuzzy line between whether something is work-related or not. Generic education materials are a good example. The company could argue that it's their property even if they did not create it, but individuals typically want all the education they can get their hands on. After all, they're going to potentially need it to find their next job. If you're not sure, just don't take it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While companies are busy investigating innocent (but rather ignorant) individuals for potential data theft, people with more malicious intents could possibly get off unscathed because there may not be adequate resources to investigate them or even notice they've done anything. In fact, if someone has malicious intent, they probably did some level of planning to make themselves more difficult to catch. So companies don't have any chance of discovering anything's happened if they don't have adequate resources available. And if they are off investigating anyone who printed anything or copied some files to a USB drive, they are going to run out of resources rather quickly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doesn't really matter though Mr. CEO, does it? Think of all the money you're saving by not having to pay out these pesky redundancy packages!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for this person, the investigation is pending. They have told the truth, handed everything over and now just has to wait. Don't make the same mistake because of ignorance.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-7259327992821946322?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/rivnWDaGdL0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/7259327992821946322/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=7259327992821946322" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7259327992821946322?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7259327992821946322?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/rivnWDaGdL0/dont-give-them-reason-to-fire-you.html" title="Don't give them a reason to fire you" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/02/dont-give-them-reason-to-fire-you.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0QNSH8_cSp7ImA9WxVXEkQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-8916404433261149483</id><published>2009-02-11T06:35:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2009-02-11T06:49:59.149+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-02-11T06:49:59.149+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="ibm" /><title>Open letter to IBM - your communities sites are causing spam</title><content type="html">Dear &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; Community Managers &amp;amp; Social Media Czars,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've noticed that you have finally realised it's 2009 and not 1989. As such, you seem to have taken little baby steps moving beyond traditional methods for marketing and community building. Apart from a sporadic sprinkling of &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/"&gt;twitter&lt;/a&gt; accounts (mine is &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/ianyip"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you want to follow me to deal with my complaints there instead of waiting for open letters), you now seem to have what looks to be the beginnings of centralised &lt;a href="https://www.ibm.com/communities/service/html/allcommunities"&gt;communities sites&lt;/a&gt; (whoa what an "innovative" concept).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It looks to me like these sites are trying to aggregate useful things for each community (e.g. blogs, tags, forum discussions) and while not exactly "cutting edge" is a start considering how you have done nothing about evolving your old marketing and communication strategies since Lou Gerstner joined the company. He obviously couldn't do much about it because he was too busy trying to save IBM from going down the crap hole, so you could be forgiven for taking some time to catch up but seriously, it's frigging 2009 IBM.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a specific issue regarding your communities sites. Maybe I'm stupid so bear with me but I signed up to be a member of your IBM Security Community thinking I should take a look at whether my ex-employer has finally realised what year it is. The first thing it insisted on was that I used my IBM ID (which still thinks "Identity Federation" might have something to do with Star Trek). This is fine, except that the IBM ID now insists that users have to use their email address as their login. This is fine in principle, but it looks to be the root cause of the problem which I will expand on later. All things considered, this part of the process was fairly easy. So I started to take a look around and realised that it was pretty bare-bones. Again this is fine because I realise this whole "Internets tubes thingy with sites and people at the end of them tubes" is fairly new to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a matter of days later, I started to get messages sent to my personal email offering to shower me in riches on receipt of my bank details and interesting products offering to "enhance my manhood". I NEVER used to receive unsolicited messages to the email address in question due to the fact I take precautions not to give it out unnecessarily or to post it online (yes on the "Internets tubes thingy"). So I did some digging online (it's called searching, IBM - you may have heard of this small company called Google?) and found my email address! And where did I find it?! On your IBM Security Community site that's where! I should note that I could see this without being logged in. Yes, this means it's PUBLIC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I immediately logged in and tried to find the offending page. Upon finding it, I immediately went about trying to change my settings to remove it from public view. About 15 minutes later, I finally realised I had to navigate to a listing of everyone's profiles to get to my own profile (nice to see you still haven't hired usability designers). I then clicked on my profile details and there it was, my email address staring at me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the incongruity of it all was unnerving, I pressed on. I thought: "OK, I've found it, now I'll just go change the settings". So, I clicked on "Edit My Profile" and spent about 10 minutes clicking on the same links over and over and over and over and over again in the hope that my email address would magically appear (that's what I used to do when I had to demo your software). I persevered thinking that it must have been my own fault or stupidity. And then I had a "eureka moment" as I glanced at the bottom of the screen. It read; "IBM Lotus Connections". And then it hit me: "Ohhhhhh it's Lotus software. I'm going to need to go screw around with some Lotus Notes database somewhere which I don't have access to". By the way, is this new-fangled Lotus software incarnation just crappy old Lotus Notes with web bits hidden behind WebSphere Portal Server (if you mention the word "cloud" anywhere in your answer I'm going to throw up)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IBM, does this mean that you are simply pulling my email address from my IBM ID and not giving me a way of changing this? Why does this matter you ask? Well, perhaps if it was listed I could potentially delete the field in the absence of adequate privacy controls in your software. That's why! But the fact it's linked makes me think that I'd have to de-provision my IBM ID, or at the very least de-provision my IBM Security Community membership (is that some Lotus Notes group?). Oh I'm sorry I just realised that I'm talking to Lotus and you don't talk to Tivoli so all this talk of provisioning must be confusing the heck out of you. Don't despair, read on and you might start to get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thinking that surely this could not be the case for everyone unfortunate enough to have signed up to the IBM Security Community, I looked around. Surely enough, I found a link that listed ALL the members of the community. And against each member was...you guessed it: their email address. Don't tell me it's all fine because to get the email address you have to hover over the person's name before the menu comes up to click through to their details. A bit of JavaScript cobbled together with "security by obscurity" does not pass the test. At this point, I was thinking that this was pretty piss-poor (Aussie slang but I think you get the point) given this was supposed to be the frigging "SECURITY COMMUNITY".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hoping that this was isolated to this community, I decided to take a look at the other non-security communities. I hoped that someone would have some sense to configure the other communities differently. To my despair, the other communities were exactly the same which made me think this was the default behaviour of the software. So IBM, this is what you've done; anyone who is a member of one of your new communities sites has now had their email address exposed to the world whether they like it or not. Even worse, there is no way to turn this off short of leaving the community. But it doesn't really matter now because you may not have figured this out yet IBM, but once something is on the web it's pretty much there forever. So I could leave your community, but the damage is already done so there's not much point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not actually sure your community moderators can do much about this issue so I choose not to blame them. It is disappointing that it looks like this is the default behaviour of your "Lotus Connections" software.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having tried &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;unsuccessfully&lt;/span&gt; to change my profile settings, targeted twittering to ask this question (without replies) and a lack of an obvious mechanism for feedback on the communities site, I've decided to write this open letter hoping that someone at IBM who can do something about it reads this. If this has reached somebody in Lotus-land, you are probably confused by all this talk of security and privacy. In the event you have not spoken to someone in Tivoli-land to help you decipher my ramblings, I'll summarise everything for you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Why do all the IBM communities sites display all member email addresses by default? This would not be so bad if there was a way to update profile settings to hide email addresses. But either through a software limitation or my own stupidity, there does not seem to be a way to do it. Why does IBM see fit to display people's email addresses by default and not allow for a way to "opt-out"?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way IBM, if I were to "accidentally" click on one of these offers I'm getting in my email, can I use my old IBM expense account to claim the costs? If so, I could potentially overlook your blatant disregard for my privacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;Ian Yip&lt;br /&gt;Disgruntled ex-IBMer&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-8916404433261149483?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/XQI169ckC-U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/8916404433261149483/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=8916404433261149483" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8916404433261149483?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8916404433261149483?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/XQI169ckC-U/open-letter-to-ibm-your-communities.html" title="Open letter to IBM - your communities sites are causing spam" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/02/open-letter-to-ibm-your-communities.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C04ASXszeip7ImA9WxVXEko.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-1480735133426750736</id><published>2009-02-10T06:41:00.010+11:00</published><updated>2009-02-11T00:19:08.582+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-02-11T00:19:08.582+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grc" /><title>CA continues their GRC march</title><content type="html">I've &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/06/ca-positioning-itself-to-be-grc-vendor.html"&gt;observed in the past&lt;/a&gt; the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt; looks to be getting serious about this whole &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance,_Risk_Management,_and_Compliance"&gt;Governance, Risk and Compliance (GRC)&lt;/a&gt; caper. Today, they &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=198180"&gt;released&lt;/a&gt; version 2.0 of their &lt;a href="http://www.ca-grc.com/grc_manager"&gt;GRC Manager&lt;/a&gt;. I first found out about the impending release some time last week when CA got in touch offering a briefing, which I accepted (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Aside: I usually accept these requests unless there's a conflict of interest on my part&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I spoke with Marc Camm (SVP &amp;amp; GM, Governance, Risk and Compliance Products), &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/about-us/tom-mchale/"&gt;Tom McHale&lt;/a&gt; (VP of Product Management for CA GRC Manager) and &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/about-us/sumner-blount/"&gt;Sumner Blount&lt;/a&gt; (Senior Principal Product Marketing Manager for Governance, Risk &amp;amp; Compliance) regarding the release. Apart from the &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=198180"&gt;press release&lt;/a&gt;, CA's also made a &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/2009/02/news-ca-grc-manager-20-released-today/"&gt;blog post&lt;/a&gt; and a &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/2009/02/video-blog-improve-your-risk-iq-with-ca-grc-manager-20/"&gt;video&lt;/a&gt;. There's even a few &lt;a href="http://blog.ca-grc.com/wp-content/uploads/screen-shots.jpg"&gt;screen shots&lt;/a&gt;. All I can say is that they've gone all out to get some discussion around the release.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I won't rehash any of the stuff CA's already put out there because I really hate when others do it. What I will say is that version 2.0 is centred around what CA calls Risk IQ, which is another way of saying they want to help turn raw data into useful information that organisations can use to make better decisions around risk. This however, has always been the "holy grail" of any product with "risk" or "monitoring" as part of its features. Whether CA's Risk IQ delivers on promise remains to be seen. 2.0's features are essentially all the useful "risk bits" they didn't put into version 1.0. It's available via the standard off-the-shelf model we're all so used to, a managed services offering or the SaaS version (&lt;a href="http://www.ca-grc.com/grc_manager/on_demand"&gt;CA GRC On Demand&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some other things I did pick up during the conversation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;CA did not deny that there would still be a sizable amount of "heavy lifting" done by organisations and implementation partners (&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=191633"&gt;such as PwC&lt;/a&gt;). GRC Manager is simply a tool to facilitate risk and compliance requirements.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GRC Manager leverages the &lt;a href="http://www.unifiedcompliance.com/"&gt;IT Unified Compliance Framework&lt;/a&gt; as a way of attempting to implementing a core set of policies that allows for easy expansion for use with regulatory requirements (e.g. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes-Oxley_Act"&gt;Sarbanes-Oxley&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act"&gt;HIPAA&lt;/a&gt;). Note: a lot of the large vendors take a similar approach - for example, &lt;a href="http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/residents.nsf/50da6a28780ffa688525701b004a4f21/5f60b0600a4c9f298525754c006287c2?OpenDocument"&gt;IBM Tivoli likes&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBIT"&gt;COBIT&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CA runs their GRC and Security divisions as separate business units. In other words, they will ensure they integrate nicely with the Security products but are just as happy to integrate with other Identity and Access Management suites (this is "toe the company line" speak for "we don't really care if our potential customers don't use CA's security products"). I asked them how they saw the recent acquisitions of &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=186938"&gt;IDFocus&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html"&gt;Eurekify&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/ca-acquires-orchestria.html"&gt;Orchestria&lt;/a&gt; and they said it was great to have as additional tools for integration within the CA family, but don't have any plans for wrapping GRC Manager around them as they belong to the Security division.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;One thing I wanted to clarify for my own understanding was whether they saw GRC Manager more as an identity-focused, operations-centric GRC tool or an enterprise GRC tool. The answer was that GRC Manager is an enterprise GRC tool, a "manager of managers" if you like. In other words, GRC Manager competes more with &lt;a href="http://www.openpages.com/"&gt;OpenPages&lt;/a&gt; than it does with &lt;a href="http://www.sailpoint.com/"&gt;SailPoint&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Relatively speaking, CA are just their GRC software journey, but I think they've got a head-start on many of the other large vendors they are usually pigeon-holed with (except for Oracle, who have a genuine claim to at least be on par, if not ahead). I'm not sure if they're quite there in terms of functionality when compared with some of the established smaller players (e.g. OpenPages) but they certainly have the ambition and company focus to get there. Once again, it'll be about execution (and perhaps the odd acquisition here and there).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-1480735133426750736?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/Qoy9e3EUOXQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/1480735133426750736/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=1480735133426750736" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1480735133426750736?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1480735133426750736?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/Qoy9e3EUOXQ/ca-continues-their-grc-march.html" title="CA continues their GRC march" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/02/ca-continues-their-grc-march.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0UDQX07fCp7ImA9WxVSEkU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-2918448645831294384</id><published>2009-01-07T11:30:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-01-07T11:47:50.304+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-07T11:47:50.304+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data leakage" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><title>Identity and data security go hand in hand</title><content type="html">I've been meaning to write about this for some time, but &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=195320"&gt;acquisition&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href="http://www.orchestria.com/"&gt;Orchestria&lt;/a&gt; (which I wrote about &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/ca-acquires-orchestria.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) just happened to be the compelling event that kick-started my thought processes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think anyone's completely worked out how Identity Management (IDM) and Data Leakage Prevention (DLP) or even data security in general should (or will) come together just yet. During my time working in the data security arena, IDM was typically an afterthought in most of the environments I dealt with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My view for quite a while has been that IDM and DLP go together because in a unified solution, there is a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;more complete security context with which access control decisions can be made&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DLP products at the moment are VERY data-centric. Policies tend to not cater for identities, roles or access controls but rather what data is being accessed, how people are trying to access it, where they are accessing it from and what they are trying to do with it. Sound familiar? It should if you've had anything to do with IDM or information security in general, but hold that thought. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;From a data security standpoint however, DLP is about data identification, classification, usage and wrapping controls around it all.&lt;/span&gt; Or as a customer's CEO once said during my time at &lt;a href="http://www.verdasys.com/"&gt;Verdasys&lt;/a&gt;, "protect my data but don't get in the way of my business".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;IDM on the other hand, is more about controlling access to resources and wrapping it all up with an "accountability" ribbon.&lt;/span&gt; I'm over-simplifying of course, because there's all the automation bits and pieces that lead to more efficient processes and so on that I've completely ignored, but bear with me for now because the point here isn't to define IDM to the nth degree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Allow me to take a step back for a minute and try to distill what it is that information security professionals are trying to solve when we talk about protecting organisational assets. It's not actually that complicated. An organisation has a "bunch of things all over the shop". There are buildings, rooms, offices, applications, databases, file systems, servers, disks, CDs, DVDs, USBs and all sorts of other bits and pieces. There's also bits of paper lying on desks, but technology can't fix that directly. It's more about security awareness and training, but I digress. Back to the point at hand...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The "things all over the shop" are essentially just a means to an end. They are required to house company resources and at the core of these company resources is information. Information in its most basic form is data. This is my long winded way of saying that all we're trying to do is protect access to data and control how it is used. Even all that Governance, Risk and Compliance (GRC) hullabaloo is about making sure data is not misused and if it somehow is, that there is end-to-end traceability, accountability and transparency so you can forensically figure out what happened. Of course, if you had protected that data properly in the first place, there should be no need to go hunting for the smoking gun. But 100% security is a pipe dream, hence the need for a good audit trail (which itself is also data - and can be modified to hide illegal activities if not protected).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let's recap. You can name all the company assets you like that security tries to protect, but in the end we are trying to protect data and control how it is used. Most things tie back in some way to the "organisational crown jewel" that is information. i.e. data. That's why our profession is usually referred to as "Information Security". What does this mean? IDM tries to protect data. DLP also tries to protect data. The difference is the approach and focus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IDM attempts to address this by focusing on people and process in a "business centric" manner. DLP or data security (to use a broader term) attempts to address this in a data-centric, "bits and bytes" manner. In some ways, you could view IDM as a top-down approach while DLP is bottom-up. This is the crux of why I've thought for quite some time that IDM and DLP/data security go hand in hand (my obvious self-interests aside): &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;IDM keeps trying to gain additional contextual information to make better access control decisions and DLP keeps trying to make business sense of all this data flying around.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because IDM focuses on business, people and process, quite often it's the low-level things that are more difficult because there are more unknowns. That is, the things you don't know about that you need to figure out. If there is no automated way to do so, it can take a lot more time. That's why there's a market for products that claim to address risk management, role mining, identity mining and security monitoring. These are some of the typical gaps that need filling whenever you implement an Enterprise Identity and Access Management programme. They need to be filled so you can use them as input to implement proper security policies that are aligned with business and reality instead of the "out of the box" policies you get from the vendor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the most crucial low-level considerations is in trying to figure out what you're trying to protect. Quite often, the consultants will only go as far as the applications. Access controls are more often than not very course-grained. With the advent of all the entitlement management initiatives floating around today, access control is starting to get more fine-grained but they can only go as far as discrete actions people make within the IT environment based on a pre-configured set of policies based on statically defined resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, a resource will be defined a certain way until an administrator changes the definition. The blind spot is actually the underlying information or data associated with the resource, which is a key part of this thing we call the security context that's required to make an enforcement decision. Information is dynamic and as such many resources are dynamic by nature. For example, one moment a document might be sensitive but the next moment not because someone deleted all the sensitive information. This dynamic nature of organisational resources is something the IDM software vendors haven't quite solved yet, although Oracle's &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/id_mgmt/oaam/index.html"&gt;Adaptive Access Manager&lt;/a&gt; is a step in the right direction (I wrote about this &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/part-1-of-my-conversation-with-amit.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). The reason they have not solved this is largely because much of it is based on information and data being taken into consideration when making access control decisions in real time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DLP products do a pretty good job of identifying data at rest (e.g. on disk or in databases), data in motion (e.g. across the network or actively being used by people), classifying information and enforcing controls on actions based on security policies. They are typically lacking in the following aspects:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Providing an easy way to tie their policies into a central policy management point across multiple systems (which is what Symantec and McAfee are trying to do).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Having any notion of identity awareness beyond being able link policies back to distinct user accounts (i.e. personas instead of actual identities) or roles within a particular namespace (e.g. a particular application). For example, in many cases the only notion of identity is someone's Active Directory account and Active Directory role memberships.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;The first point is something the large vendors (such as CA) should be able to address given that it's something they should be looking to do with their existing security products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second point is important because many DLP customers are starting to include things such as behavioural analysis and more "pro-active security measures" on their wish-lists for product features. The problem is that to be able to do this in a useful manner, the products need to be identity aware.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Information security has always been reactive. Many products come out with "whiz-bang" features that claim to be "intelligent" but the reality is that organisations only fix things once something bad happens. I'm not taking a swipe at operational security in general. All I'm saying is that information security professionals can only be as good as the limits of the tools available will allow them to be. The promise for a long time has been that there would be more products that allow for the operational security teams to be pro-active or better still, have software make decisions adaptively based on real-time threats instead of using static, potentially outdated policies based on assumptions made that could cause issues because of potential "blind spots".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IDM and data security are complementary. Each goes a long way towards addressing the other one's shortcomings and blind spots (although not completely). The key is that we need to figure out how to put it all together so that we can get closer to the reality of pro-active security measures. A data-aware Identity and Access Management infrastracture allows for micro-grained, dynamic, adaptive access controls and more context-aware policies and controls.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-2918448645831294384?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/lvt8Zc0VWus" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/2918448645831294384/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=2918448645831294384" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2918448645831294384?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2918448645831294384?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/lvt8Zc0VWus/identity-and-data-security-go-hand-in.html" title="Identity and data security go hand in hand" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/identity-and-data-security-go-hand-in.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkcHQ38zfip7ImA9WxVSEkU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-1188239041911258805</id><published>2009-01-07T05:55:00.017+11:00</published><updated>2009-01-07T11:27:12.186+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-07T11:27:12.186+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data leakage" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="orchestria" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><title>CA acquires Orchestria</title><content type="html">I &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html"&gt;noted&lt;/a&gt; late last year that &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt; seems to be sprinting towards 2009. Looks like they haven't stopped and have bolted out of the blocks in 2009 by &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=195320"&gt;announcing&lt;/a&gt; the acquisition of &lt;a href="http://www.orchestria.com/"&gt;Orchestria&lt;/a&gt;. My &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/identity%20management"&gt;Identity Management&lt;/a&gt; (IDM) and &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/data%20leakage"&gt;Data Leakage Prevention&lt;/a&gt; (DLP) worlds are colliding here so I felt the need to say something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I should note that this post focuses on the acquisition. I'll be doing a follow-up post regarding why I think IDM and DLP are complementary solutions and fit well together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CA are one of the leaders in the Identity and Access Management software marketplace. Most would group them with &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/"&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/"&gt;Sun&lt;/a&gt; as the leaders. As I've &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html"&gt;said recently&lt;/a&gt;, they've been going from strength to strength and I probably don't need to say too much more about them at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Orchestria are a very strong player in the DLP space and well respected. They are a very strong competitor to Symantec (they &lt;a href="http://www.symantec.com/about/news/release/article.jsp?prid=20071203_01"&gt;acquired Vontu&lt;/a&gt;, who many considered to be the leader in DLP software) and have the typical DLP components covered off: endpoint controls, network monitoring, data-at-rest capabilities and email server controls. I haven't actually seen their products in action so I can't comment on whether they can do everything they claim, but they tick most of the boxes on a marketing slide and in RFPs. In other words, CA made a good choice in picking Orchestria from a "perception" standpoint. If the technology works as specified, they're on to a winner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What this means is that CA's got a head-start on everyone else. It'll be interesting to see what they do with it. Early signs are good because they've already stated they see close links with their IDM suite. They may need to watch IBM because &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/11/ibm-dips-its-toe-into-data-security.html"&gt;IBM ISS offers a data security managed service&lt;/a&gt;, but IBM as a whole will never be able to get their act together to compete (if someone wants a combined IDM + DLP solution) unless Tivoli acquires the other vendors mentioned (one of which is &lt;a href="http://www.verdasys.com/"&gt;Verdasys&lt;/a&gt;, who I used to work for). As an aside, the gentleman who runs CA's Identity and Access Management EMEA organisation knows his DLP. How do I know this? Because we used to be colleagues at Verdasys. So there's another "tick in the box" for CA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I haven't been able to find other commentary on this acquisition (apart from publications spitting out the press release) except for &lt;a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/010509-ca-acquires-orchestria.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; article from &lt;a href="http://www.networkworld.com/"&gt;NetworkWorld&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/774/4a1"&gt;Dave Hansen&lt;/a&gt;, CA's corporate senior vice president and general manager, CA Security Management is quoted as saying:&lt;blockquote&gt;"We were not competing in this space, and our two main competitors don't have data-leak prevention."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He's referring to IBM and Oracle if my interpretation of the article is correct (he's mostly right if you don't count the IBM ISS capabilities I mentioned above -  I think he's referring to IBM Tivoli Software though so I'll let it pass). In fact, the only Identity and Access Management vendor that sells DLP software is &lt;a href="http://www.rsa.com/"&gt;RSA&lt;/a&gt; (via their &lt;a href="http://www.rsa.com/press_release.aspx?id=8631"&gt;acquisition of Tablus&lt;/a&gt;) in the form of their &lt;a href="http://rsa.com/node.aspx?id=3426"&gt;DLP Suite&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately for RSA, they still don't have a provisioning product, which is why none of the large IDM suite vendors ever thinks of them as being a serious competitor. I should point out that Novell &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/01/novell-does-data-security.html"&gt;has some data security stuff&lt;/a&gt;, but nothing that would make anyone take them seriously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article also makes reference to Dave's comment as follows:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"While CA says its primary competitors in the identity and access management market -- IBM and Oracle -- don't have such DLP capabilities, Symantec does."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't mean to pick on the article, but what's the point of mentioning &lt;a href="http://www.symantec.com/"&gt;Symantec&lt;/a&gt;? It might as well have said &lt;a href="http://mcafee.com/"&gt;McAfee&lt;/a&gt;...or &lt;a href="http://trendmicro.com/"&gt;Trend Micro&lt;/a&gt;...or any vendor that has Antivirus products and claims to also do DLP. &lt;a href="http://www.kaspersky.com/"&gt;Kaspersky&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.checkpoint.com/"&gt;Checkpoint&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.sophos.com/"&gt;Sophos&lt;/a&gt;...I could go on but I won't. I think the writer's referring to the fact that CA and Symantec are competitors in the security market, but we're talking Antivirus products and NOT Identity and Access Management software (where Symantec are not a player).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All things considered, this is a good move for CA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update:&lt;/span&gt; My post on why I think IDM and DLP are a good fit is &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/identity-and-data-security-go-hand-in.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-1188239041911258805?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/fLJq7PPTj5w" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/1188239041911258805/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=1188239041911258805" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1188239041911258805?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1188239041911258805?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/fLJq7PPTj5w/ca-acquires-orchestria.html" title="CA acquires Orchestria" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2009/01/ca-acquires-orchestria.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEQDRH07cSp7ImA9WxVTF04.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-5041186838964479529</id><published>2008-12-31T16:37:00.011+11:00</published><updated>2009-01-01T02:12:55.309+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-01T02:12:55.309+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="uk" /><title>Wrapping up 2008</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/12/seasons-greetings-happy-new-year-and.html"&gt;Like 2007&lt;/a&gt;, 2008 has been an interesting one for me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I spent my first full year living in London.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I saw quite a lot of Europe, but this time it was more often for play than business.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I got &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/05/back-to-identity.html"&gt;back into the "Identity world"&lt;/a&gt; full time (2007 was very &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/data%20security"&gt;data security&lt;/a&gt; centric for me).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;From a blogging standpoint, it's been great too:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I had many more conversations with other bloggers than in 2007.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I've met and spoken to many interesting, influential people in the industry. Some I've blogged about, others I've kept to myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I've been able to spend more time blogging than in 2007.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Thanks to everyone who reads anything I write on here, even if it's just the headings. Whether you're a regular subscriber/visitor or have accidentally stumbled across my blog I humbly thank you for taking time out of your busy schedules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope everyone had a great 2008 (except for that little financial crisis thing of course) and here's to a much better and more positive 2009.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-5041186838964479529?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/feU8tfeln-Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/5041186838964479529/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=5041186838964479529" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5041186838964479529?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5041186838964479529?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/feU8tfeln-Q/wrapping-up-2008.html" title="Wrapping up 2008" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/12/wrapping-up-2008.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEQER384eyp7ImA9WxVTF04.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-6974976757834260956</id><published>2008-12-31T15:56:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2009-01-01T02:11:46.133+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-01T02:11:46.133+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="list" /><title>My top 8 posts for 2008</title><content type="html">I've been reflecting on the year that was 2008 and my thoughts moved to &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/"&gt;the blog&lt;/a&gt;. I was wondering whether I'd done it justice so I took a look through my posts and some of the stats. I started to wonder which ones were mildly useful (as opposed to a complete waste of time if some poor person had to read them). I came to the conclusion that a decent way to measure this was to figure out which ones were linked to most and/or generated the most reactions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result, I came up with my top 8 (because it's 2008) posts of the year. I should probably note that this is more for my own benefit than anything else (e.g. I may want to look back at this in a few years).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, here they are (in reverse order):&lt;br /&gt;8. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/06/ca-positioning-itself-to-be-grc-vendor.html"&gt;CA positioning itself to be a GRC vendor that matters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/identity-management-top-10-list.html"&gt;Identity Management Top 10 List&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/05/roundtable-with-oracle-president.html"&gt;Roundtable with Oracle President Charles Phillips&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/part-2-of-my-conversation-with-amit.html"&gt;Part 2 of my conversation with Amit Jasuja from Oracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/07/can-identity-management-really-be.html"&gt;Can Identity Management really be outsourced?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/03/ibm-acquires-encentuate-did-they-just.html"&gt;IBM acquires Encentuate - did they just dump Passlogix?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/managed-identity-services-survey.html"&gt;Managed Identity Services Survey Results&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and the winner is...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/07/metaphysical-directory-virtual-storm.html"&gt;Metaphysical Directory Virtual Storm&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/07/directory-trek-wars-act-ii.html"&gt;Directory Trek Wars - Act II&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ok, so I cheated a little bit because number 1 combines two separate posts. But they are related and I couldn't separate them, so one could argue they are two halves of the same post :-)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-6974976757834260956?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/G4aKd8acN_k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/6974976757834260956/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=6974976757834260956" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/6974976757834260956?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/6974976757834260956?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/G4aKd8acN_k/my-top-8-posts-for-2008.html" title="My top 8 posts for 2008" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/12/my-top-8-posts-for-2008.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0AHQ3c7fSp7ImA9WxVTE04.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-8339261625323845521</id><published>2008-12-27T08:45:00.010+11:00</published><updated>2008-12-27T09:48:52.905+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-27T09:48:52.905+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="managed services" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="results" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="survey" /><title>Download the Managed Identity Service Survey Results</title><content type="html">When I released the &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/managed-identity-services-survey.html"&gt;results for the Managed Identity Services Survey&lt;/a&gt;, I said I would make it available as a PDF that could be downloaded. It took me a little longer than anticipated but I finally got around to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I actually turned it into an online presentation using &lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/"&gt;Google Docs&lt;/a&gt;, which meant it could be embedded (see below) and also &lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/Present?docid=dhjvs8dv_1gn6g2tfn&amp;amp;skipauth=true"&gt;linked to directly&lt;/a&gt;. If you follow the direct link, you should be able to download the presentation as a PDF by clicking "Print Slides" and then "Save as PDF" (or you could actually print it).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://docs.google.com/EmbedSlideshow?docid=dhjvs8dv_1gn6g2tfn" frameborder="0" height="342" width="410"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-8339261625323845521?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/Tg3h1KlxTEw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/8339261625323845521/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=8339261625323845521" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8339261625323845521?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/8339261625323845521?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/Tg3h1KlxTEw/download-managed-identity-service.html" title="Download the Managed Identity Service Survey Results" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/12/download-managed-identity-service.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkcMSHo7fip7ImA9WxRUF08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-7405376398443170671</id><published>2008-11-27T03:43:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2008-11-27T04:21:29.406+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-27T04:21:29.406+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="managed services" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="survey" /><title>And the iPod touch goes to</title><content type="html">Remember my &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/managed-identity-services-survey.html"&gt;Managed Identity Services Survey&lt;/a&gt; and how the good folks at &lt;a href="http://identropy.com/"&gt;Identropy&lt;/a&gt; offered an &lt;a href="http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/"&gt;iPod touch&lt;/a&gt; as an incentive to participate? It's taken some time thanks to various emails falling into spam folders and/or not getting through email filters but we finally got it sorted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The recipient of the iPod touch has been &lt;a href="http://identityman.blogspot.com/2008/11/managed-identity-services-winner.html"&gt;announced&lt;/a&gt; over on &lt;a href="http://identityman.blogspot.com/"&gt;Ash Motiwala's blog&lt;/a&gt;. Congratulations Niall!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Special thanks to Ash and Identropy for the prize. Also, thanks to &lt;a href="http://360tek.blogspot.com/"&gt;Matt Flynn&lt;/a&gt; for helping us out with the logistics around selecting the winner and ensuring it was completely random (if anyone feels like they need to know the boring details around how it was done, contact me using the form on &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/"&gt;my blog&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-7405376398443170671?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/Fka8BaBooLY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/7405376398443170671/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=7405376398443170671" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7405376398443170671?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/7405376398443170671?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/Fka8BaBooLY/and-ipod-touch-goes-to.html" title="And the iPod touch goes to" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/and-ipod-touch-goes-to.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUYDQ3o_eip7ImA9WxRUFUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-1951193160430193158</id><published>2008-11-25T14:10:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2008-11-25T14:19:32.442+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-25T14:19:32.442+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="humour" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="list" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="data security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><title>Signs your Identity Management project is in trouble</title><content type="html">While &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/identity-management-top-10-list.html"&gt;I'm at it&lt;/a&gt;, here's another Top 10 list (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_10_list_%28David_Letterman%29"&gt;Letterman style&lt;/a&gt;). I should point out that I'm not being serious this time...well, not really.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, like Letterman's top 10 lists, it's a bit of a hit and miss affair. That is, sometimes the lists aren't funny at all (cringe-worthy even). Anyway, here goes...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Top 10 signs your Identity Management project is in trouble:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;10.&lt;/span&gt; Each time you ask which systems need to be part of the Federation project, the person in charge says that the Borgs from Microsoft land and the Romulans from (insert random vendor here) are going to take some convincing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;9.&lt;/span&gt; The executive sponsor for your project actually carries a toy light saber to your meetings in case they need to "unleash the force" on the team (see my &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/identity-management-top-10-list.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt; for this reference to make sense).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;8.&lt;/span&gt; The answer to every problem seems to be "why don't we use that darned Meta-Directory synchronisation thingamajiggy"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;7.&lt;/span&gt; The company implementing your project replaces their whole team and you don't notice for a week (note: this might actually happen if you go with a large multinational consulting company).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;6.&lt;/span&gt; You ring the sales guy who sold you the software and his voice mail says he's on indefinite leave in the Bahamas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;5.&lt;/span&gt; You try the vendor's support number and it says they're in the Bahamas with the sales guy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;4.&lt;/span&gt; The help desk asks if you would like your head to be provisioned up where the sun don't shine when you call to say you can't reset your password.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;3.&lt;/span&gt; When you click on the "I forgot my password" link, you're presented with a screen that says "Go look in the configuration file for the master password and reset your own damn password".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2.&lt;/span&gt; Your vendor says there will be a delay on the media (DVDs/CDs) because the police raided the warehouse yesterday and it'll take them time to burn you a new set in the "back shed".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;And the number 1 sign that your Identity Management project is in trouble is...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You actually believed that everything you saw in the product demonstration would work in your environment without customisation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Bada Boom*&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-1951193160430193158?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/JT34NSC0h0g" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/1951193160430193158/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=1951193160430193158" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1951193160430193158?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/1951193160430193158?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/JT34NSC0h0g/signs-your-identity-management-project.html" title="Signs your Identity Management project is in trouble" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/signs-your-identity-management-project.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0UCSXw4eSp7ImA9WxRUFUU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-2335465063197894224</id><published>2008-11-25T10:40:00.010+11:00</published><updated>2008-11-25T13:47:48.231+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-25T13:47:48.231+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="list" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="security" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><title>Identity Management Top 10 List</title><content type="html">Ash Motiwala &lt;a href="http://identityman.blogspot.com/2008/11/its-about-business.html"&gt;threw out some one-liners&lt;/a&gt; that relate to Identity Management projects in general. Jeff Bohren &lt;a href="http://idlogger.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/sweet-chewy-nuggets-of-identity-wisdom/"&gt;added a few of his own&lt;/a&gt; as did &lt;a href="http://idmlessons.blogspot.com/2008/11/just-wanted-to-say-quick-thank-you-to.html"&gt;Mike Conklin&lt;/a&gt;. Ash decided it would be fun to &lt;a href="http://identityman.blogspot.com/2008/11/few-more-snappy-idm-one-liners.html"&gt;"tag" a few others&lt;/a&gt; (yours truly included) and ask us to contribute a few of our own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a few from me in&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_10_list_%28David_Letterman%29"&gt;Letterman top 10 list style&lt;/a&gt; (note: I realise some of these are longer than "snappy one-liners" if you include the explanations but I figured it was better being clear than leaving everyone scratching their heads):&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;10. Exec can haz light saber&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you don't get business buy-in and an executive sponsor (with a big light saber they can pull out when required), the chances that your Identity Management project will succeed are significantly reduced (note: this one's true of most IT projects, but it's especially important in this context because Identity Management projects typically touch every single department).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;9. An internal a** needs to be on the line&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An internal person needs to own the project and be accountable. Don't pretend everything will be fine by assuming the vendor and service provider know how your business processes work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;8. Big bang will blow up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take a phased approach to Identity Management, not a "big bang" one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;7. Go for the quick visible win first&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Solutions that visibly improve the end user experience will go a long way towards the project being viewed as a success (note: this is actually the way the single sign-on products are typically sold, but it can apply to other types of Identity Management solutions as well).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;6. The vendor should catch any S*** splattered from the fan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The core Identity Management technologies are largely commoditised. Pick a vendor that will stick around when the S*** hits the fan, not the one with the shiniest new toy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;5. "The grad got hit by a bus? No problem, here's another one we hired last week" is not the right answer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pick an implementation partner with real expertise, not one that knows how to hire a shed-load of University graduates and send them on product training before promptly rolling them onto your project and charging them out at a rate that is 10 times the amount they actually get paid (I'm looking at you Accenture, Deloitte, IBM GBS et al).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;4. Entitlement Management is not a new concept&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's just a fancy-schmancy name for fine-grained access management, which has been around for years. People are just getting around to worrying about fine-grained stuff because they've already implemented some sort of web access management product.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;3. You probably don't need the whole suite of products&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the sales person tells you that you do and can't explain why, boot their a** out the door. Of course, quite often they'll give you a larger discount for buying the whole lot up front so you'll need to decide if it's worth the money potentially ending up with a bunch of shelf-ware.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2. RFPs are a waste of time that won't die&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are a necessary evil that some large organisations need to go through, but vendors fill them in by doing copious amount of copying and pasting and the evaluation teams select a shortlist by counting the number of "comply" responses. Why? Because Identity Management projects that need RFPs are too complex to evaluate using a tender process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;1. If you think the software's expensive, wait until you get the bill for the services!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn't always true, but unfortunately it's all too common. In short, pick your implementation provider carefully and keep a tight leash on the scope and milestones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-2335465063197894224?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/Da2Qz180mV4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/2335465063197894224/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=2335465063197894224" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2335465063197894224?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/2335465063197894224?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/Da2Qz180mV4/identity-management-top-10-list.html" title="Identity Management Top 10 List" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/identity-management-top-10-list.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUUEQXo-fip7ImA9WxRVGEU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-5104901694130666348</id><published>2008-11-17T13:00:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T13:00:00.456+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-17T13:00:00.456+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CA" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="eurekify" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="grc" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="identity management" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="role management" /><title>CA sprints towards 2009</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/"&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/2007_sep/bridgestream.html"&gt;acquired&lt;/a&gt; Bridgestream (I wrote about this &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2007/10/oracle-and-bridgestream.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). Then &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/"&gt;Sun&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2007-11/sunflash.20071113.2.xml"&gt;acquired&lt;/a&gt; VAAU. Now &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/"&gt;CA&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=192039"&gt;acquired&lt;/a&gt; the last remaining high profile role management player, &lt;a href="http://www.eurekify.com/"&gt;Eurekify&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all, congratulations to founder &lt;a href="http://www.rymon.com/ron.htm"&gt;Ron Rymon&lt;/a&gt; (he's the only person from Eurekify I've actually met) and the team. As I said to Ron earlier this week, it makes a lot of sense and I think it's a good fit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/search/label/CA"&gt;written&lt;/a&gt; about CA's moves in the past and also &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/06/why-does-your-organisation-buy.html"&gt;mentioned&lt;/a&gt; the CA-Eurekify partnership in passing. It looks like they're keeping the momentum up and making a lot of headway towards competing with the other leaders in the Identity and Access Management marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think the Eurekify acquisition is going to change the landscape too much mainly because of the existing partnership. The initial benefit is going to be that their sales reps probably get paid more commission for selling "CA Role Manager" or whatever they call the Eurekify product. In the longer term however, they're obviously going to have to integrate Eurekify's products into the CA stack so there's eventually going to be the "out of the box" integration benefits. Of course, the main benefit to CA as a company is in being able to market the fact they are now a serious role management player (along with Oracle and Sun).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Eurekify acquisition also plays very nicely into CA's &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/06/ca-positioning-itself-to-be-grc-vendor.html"&gt;move towards being a strong GRC player&lt;/a&gt;. Eurekify's product set does include some GRC components geared towards identity compliance with an obvious focus on roles. CA's existing GRC Manager lacks some of the features around the identity-centric compliance niche that &lt;a href="http://www.sailpoint.com/"&gt;SailPoint&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.aveksa.com/"&gt;Aveksa&lt;/a&gt; play in but I'd be very surprised if CA doesn't fill the gaps using Eurikify's technology given that Sun just released their &lt;a href="http://www.sun.com/software/products/icmgr/index.xml"&gt;Identity Compliance Manager&lt;/a&gt; (which I believe was based on VAAU technology - all you Sun bloggers can correct me if I'm wrong about this) product and the fact that Oracle has something along these lines on the roadmap (according to Amit Jasuja &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/part-2-of-my-conversation-with-amit.html"&gt;when I spoke to him&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CA compounded their GRC march this weekend at &lt;a href="http://www.caworld.com/"&gt;CA World&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/press/release.aspx?cid=191459"&gt;announcing&lt;/a&gt; a Software as a Service (SaaS) version of their &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?id=7799"&gt;GRC Manager&lt;/a&gt; product, dubbed &lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/products/Product.aspx?ID=8233"&gt;GRC Manager On Demand&lt;/a&gt;. This makes them the first large Identity and Access Management software vendor (the others being &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt;, Sun, Oracle and &lt;a href="http://www.novell.com/"&gt;Novell&lt;/a&gt;) to release a SaaS offering. I'm unsure how well it's going to sell given the &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/managed-identity-services-survey.html"&gt;results of my Managed Identity Services survey&lt;/a&gt; but what it does show is intent on CA's part to get serious about competing and getting ahead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oracle, Sun and CA have been very active of late. IBM and Novell have not. In fact, they have been VERY quiet. IBM will actually be releasing a new Entitlement Management product later this year but that's a little ho hum as &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/10/ibm-tries-to-rain-on-novell-and-hps.html"&gt;I've already said&lt;/a&gt;. I have a feeling something is brewing because IBM and Novell cannot afford to sit around and watch everyone else get waaaay ahead. Novell's &lt;a href="http://www.novell.com/products/accessgovernancesuite/"&gt;Access Governance Suite&lt;/a&gt; is an OEM of Aveksa's software. In other words, if Novell acquires someone in the role management/identity compliance area, my money's on Aveksa. This leaves IBM and SailPoint as the remaining pair. Watch this space.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-5104901694130666348?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/MdQqFNnyfT8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/5104901694130666348/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=5104901694130666348" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5104901694130666348?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/5104901694130666348?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/MdQqFNnyfT8/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html" title="CA sprints towards 2009" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/ca-sprints-towards-2009.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0MAR3o8eSp7ImA9WxRVGEU.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36930068.post-4715742841659924643</id><published>2008-11-16T14:43:00.010+11:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T11:24:06.471+11:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-17T11:24:06.471+11:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="centrify" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="access management" /><title>Is Centrify DirectAuthorize one of a kind?</title><content type="html">I'm sure many of you read &lt;a href="http://vquill.com/"&gt;Dave Kearn&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/dir/index.html"&gt;NetworkWorld Identity Management Newsletter&lt;/a&gt;. I certainly do and noticed something buried near the end of &lt;a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/dir/2008/111008id2.html?page=1"&gt;his most recent edition&lt;/a&gt; regarding &lt;a href="http://www.centrify.com/"&gt;Centrify&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a href="http://www.centrify.com/directauthorize/unix-privilege-management.asp"&gt;DirectAuthorize&lt;/a&gt; product:&lt;blockquote&gt;"The new product centrally manages and enforces role-based entitlements for fine grained control of user access and privileges on Unix and Linux systems. If your organization has a mix of operating systems you need a product like this. And the “jungle drums” (Tom – Tom, get it? OK, you can groan now) assure me that this is the only product “like this”."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The "only product like this" comment jumped out at me because I'm wondering what Centrify actually means. If they are implying that it is the only product on the market that does fine-grained access management for Unix and Linux systems and is hooked into some sort of centralised Identity Management infrastructure, they need to do a bit more research because I can point to at least 2 products that can do the same thing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/access-mgr-operating-sys/"&gt;IBM Tivoli Access Manager for Operating Systems&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ca.com/us/access-control.aspx"&gt;CA Access Control&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If on the other hand, they simply mean that they have a nicer interface that is easier to use and tighter coupling with Active Directory then they have a very good point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A blog post where I mention &lt;a href="http://www.ibm.com/"&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt; and don't take some sort of "pot shot" at them would be incomplete. So I'll say this: If IBM ever decides to design user interfaces where the user doesn't scream "owwww my eyes" when they look at it, they might actually sell more software.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Update&lt;/span&gt;: Dave's &lt;a href="http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/is-centrify-directauthorize-one-of-kind.html?showComment=1226855160000#c4234174290923774889"&gt;left a comment&lt;/a&gt; in response to this post that clarifies things slightly. I'm still not 100% sure what "like this" means. However, I'm sure someone from Centrify could explain it in detail and sing about the benefits around how DirectAuthorize does whatever "like this" means.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/36930068-4715742841659924643?l=blog.ianyip.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ianyipblog/~4/tKSqYC6TkAk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://blog.ianyip.com/feeds/4715742841659924643/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=36930068&amp;postID=4715742841659924643" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/4715742841659924643?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36930068/posts/default/4715742841659924643?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ianyipblog/~3/tKSqYC6TkAk/is-centrify-directauthorize-one-of-kind.html" title="Is Centrify DirectAuthorize one of a kind?" /><author><name>Ian Yip</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07620054411151781462</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="10232190331291713199" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://blog.ianyip.com/2008/11/is-centrify-directauthorize-one-of-kind.html</feedburner:origLink></entry></feed>
