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<h2>Gaeilge</h2>
<p>Gaeilge, <a id="aptureLink_HV6J6Fguf8" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish%20language">Irish</a>, or &#8220;Irish Gaelic&#8221; is the national and <em>first </em>official language of <a id="aptureLink_Jbx9RSFzzg" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic%20of%20Ireland">Ireland</a>, as well as one of the <a id="aptureLink_O0QmsWEx1H" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages%20of%20the%20European%20Union#Irish">official languages</a> of the <em>European Union</em>.</p>
<p>Although everyone in Ireland speaks English, there are regions known as the <a id="aptureLink_lo7OQK2Ld8" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaeltacht">Gaeltacht</a> that use Irish as the main language of communication, both in businesses and in families.</p>
<p>When we say <em>Irish </em>(the language) we don&#8217;t mean our accent in English (i.e. <a id="aptureLink_gP2UclV9HZ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English">Hiberno English</a> &#8211; I&#8217;ve got a different post for that coming up!) &#8211; we mean a language on a completely different branch of the European language family tree.</p>
<p>More distant than French and Spanish, stranger than Slavic languages and more exotic and beautiful than many languages, Irish is an interesting specimen and something I&#8217;d like to share with readers today as part of a few posts for <em>Seachtain na Gaeilge</em>&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<h2>Gaeilge</h2>
<p>Gaeilge, <a id="aptureLink_HV6J6Fguf8" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish%20language">Irish</a>, or &#8220;Irish Gaelic&#8221; is the national and <em>first </em>official language of <a id="aptureLink_Jbx9RSFzzg" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic%20of%20Ireland">Ireland</a>, as well as one of the <a id="aptureLink_O0QmsWEx1H" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages%20of%20the%20European%20Union#Irish">official languages</a> of the <em>European Union</em>.</p>
<p>Although everyone in Ireland speaks English, there are regions known as the <a id="aptureLink_lo7OQK2Ld8" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaeltacht">Gaeltacht</a> that use Irish as the main language of communication, both in businesses and in families.</p>
<p>When we say <em>Irish </em>(the language) we don&#8217;t mean our accent in English (i.e. <a id="aptureLink_gP2UclV9HZ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English">Hiberno English</a> &#8211; I&#8217;ve got a different post for that coming up!) &#8211; we mean a language on a completely different branch of the European language family tree.</p>
<p>More distant than French and Spanish, stranger than Slavic languages and more exotic and beautiful than many languages, Irish is an interesting specimen and something I&#8217;d like to share with readers today as part of a few posts for <em>Seachtain na Gaeilge &#8211; </em>the week celebrating the Irish language and culture leading up to St. Patrick&#8217;s day!</p>
<h2>Níl sé deacair ar chor ar bith</h2>
<p>While Irish is quite different, there are some things that make it pretty straightforward to learn.</p>
<p>It only has 11 irregular verbs (compared to <a href="http://www.englishpage.com/irregularverbs/irregularverbs2.html" target="_blank">500</a> or so in English and thousands in Spanish/French/etc. depending on how you count them), there&#8217;s no indefinite article (so you can just say &#8220;Tá leabhar agam&#8221; &#8211; literally <em>I have book </em>etc. with no &#8220;a&#8221; to complicate things), and even though it has masculine and feminine nouns, the definite article &#8220;an&#8221; (<em>the</em>) is the same for both. It uses the same alphabet as other European languages (although it is the only language that still traditionally uses <a id="aptureLink_smMbiooZUA" href="http://www.lostcarpark.com/fonts/slainechars.gif">its own special font</a>).</p>
<p>The phonetics (pronunciation based on spelling) are quite different, and this usually scares a lot of people. But you can learn the differences very quickly and after that they are <em>consistent </em>(unlike in English), so you can read any given text aloud pretty well after a small amount of study.</p>
<p>Most of the letters work pretty similarly to how they do in most European languages, but some changes include mb = m, gc = c, th = h, dt = d, bhf = silent, and some consonants change sound depending on if they are before i/e or a/o/u. This happens in Spanish/French/Italian and other languages too (with c/g for example) but is slightly different in Irish.</p>
<p>For example <em>S </em>before i or e is an <em>sh </em>sound &#8211; this is why the well-known name <em><strong>Seán</strong> </em>is pronounced (and spelled, in America) as Shawn. Most of the vowels work similarly to as they would in English, with the exception of &#8220;ao&#8221; pronounced as &#8220;ee&#8221;, so the name <strong>Aoife</strong> is pronounced <em>Ee-fa</em>. The subtle difference between how some consonants are pronounced takes some practice but can indeed be learned <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>This is important for saying Irish people&#8217;s names correctly (even when just speaking English). Even some titles are not translated  in Ireland, instead of a &#8220;prime minister&#8221; we have a <a id="aptureLink_0LoUD0GW60" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoiseach">Taoiseach</a> (the word we use in English too) &#8211; based on what I said above (and &#8216;ch&#8217; is pronounced gutturally as in <em>loch</em>), you will see better why this is pronounced <em>Tee-sho</em>[<em>ch</em>].</p>
<p>The language also interestingly has <em>no word for <strong>yes </strong>or <strong>no</strong> </em>(like in <em>Thai </em>for example). We simply repeat the verb of the question, e.g. <em>Ar ith tú do lón? D&#8217;ith! </em>Did you eat your lunch? I did! (literally, <em>I ate</em>)</p>
<h2>Cad atá tú ag caint faoi?</h2>
<p>There are a few tricky aspects of the language that merit a mention though.</p>
<p>You know the way in most languages you change the end of words in certain situations? (car/cars, I eat / he eats, <em>drapeau / drapeaux </em>etc.)&#8230; And even the middle of the words in other ones (man/men, mouse/mice)? Well in Irish we very merrily change the <em>beginning</em>. This is something common in other Celtic languages and adds to a nice flow between words.</p>
<p>So, for those of you who don&#8217;t know, my name is actually <em>Brendan </em>(Benny is my nickname<em> </em>). In Irish this is originally written <em>Breandán </em>and when followed by verbs and such it stays the same. <em>Tá Breandán ag ithe </em>- Brendan is eating.</p>
<p>However, thanks to the magic of <a id="aptureLink_fIjcSQ5o4C" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish%20initial%20mutations">initial mutations</a> we can change the start of words in many situations! So if you want to get my attention some day, don&#8217;t shout <em>Breandán!! </em>but <em>A Bhreandán!!</em> &#8211; which is actually pronounced <em>ah Vrendawn</em> since bh=v! This would be the <em>vocative </em>case for the linguists out there. Another example: <em>Mo </em>= my &amp; <em>madra </em>= dog, but my dog is <em>mo mhadra</em> (&#8220;mo <strong>w</strong>adra&#8221;) since mh=w.</p>
<p>This strange use of spelling and the other examples mentioned above may seem offputting, but <strong>it&#8217;s actually quite helpful</strong> believe it or not! You see, we keep the letter of the original base word (e.g. <em>crann </em>for tree) in a modified version of the word (e.g. <em>i gcrann </em>for <em>in a tree</em> &#8211; the &#8216;c&#8217; is silent, but essential for recognising the original word when the modified one is written). This is way better than if the language was perfectly phonetic; even if you knew the word crann, if you saw &#8220;grann&#8221; in a dictionary, text, or spelled out for you, it would be much more confusing. I&#8217;m told that <em>Welsh</em> (in the same language family) operates more phonetically despite the same initial mutation situation and I&#8217;d personally miss my original letters for recognition!</p>
<p>The vocabulary of the language is of course quite different; it&#8217;s one of the few languages I&#8217;ve seen (the other being Esperanto) that has its own word for things like the Internet (<em>Idirlíon</em>), and even words you would hope would be <em>slightly </em>similar go way off; &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; is <em>feoilséantóir </em>(literally means, &#8220;meat shunner&#8221;).</p>
<p>However, despite the huge differences, like in some <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">other languages</a>, words are formed logically using prefixes, suffixes and combinations of roots. A lot of Irish words do this so after you have some basic vocabulary it isn&#8217;t that bad to recognise more complicated words and very quickly build up your base of vocabulary.</p>
<p>For example,<em> astronomy </em>is <em>réalteolaíocht</em> [réalt<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">a</span>=star, <em>eola<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">s</span></em>=knowledge/information, <em>íocht</em>=y/ity etc. suffix, or more generally the second part, <em>eolaíocht</em> = science, so "star science"]. And then sometimes we just separate the words in an easy way. <em>Exit </em>is simply <em>bealach amach </em>(way out).</p>
<p>Word order changes a bit from English, and we have <em>preposition conjugation</em> (same way in Spanish/Portuguese <em>con + tu = contigo, </em>except that it is applied to all persons for most prepositions). Also, because of the initial mutations mentioned above, capital letters (upper case) can occur as the second or third letter in a word! So Donegal (county in the northwest) is spelled <em>Dún na <strong>nG</strong>all</em>. These things do take some getting used to, but it really isn&#8217;t that bad. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h2>Tá an teanga i ngach áit!</h2>
<p>The best part of all, is that Irish speakers are generally always happy to help! We are a long cry from arrogant perfectionists (something that holds too many people back from speaking a language), so if you can form some sentences we&#8217;ll be very happy to hear them even if there are some grammatical mistakes <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Whenever I hear a <em>cúpla focal </em>from someone I always encourage them to keep going!</p>
<p>Whether in Ireland or abroad, there are usually some books in major libraries on learning Irish. You can also order them online &#8211; one of my favourites for beginners or those already with a wee bit is the multimedia Turas Teanga course (you can get it on Amazon <a id="aptureLink_jWSiutAmJg" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0717137597?tag=fluein3mont-21">US</a>/<a id="aptureLink_JSz5ijwZk2" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0717137597?tag=fluein3mont-21">UK</a>) from Irish language RTE newsreader Sharon Ní Bheolain, who teaches the language while going around the country showing it used by natives. <em>Teach yourself </em>also do a great book about Irish for complete beginners (Amazon <a id="aptureLink_t6Jr4zWWyd" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071434488?tag=fluein3mont-21">US</a>/<a id="aptureLink_f5KkVzfl65" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0340870753?tag=fluein3mont-21">UK</a>), and the more adventurous of you can even read <em>Harry Potter </em>in Irish! (Amazon <a id="aptureLink_XGzaPUiyUD" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1582348286?tag=fluein3mont-21">US</a>/<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001O2SDJI?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=fluein3mont-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=6738&amp;creativeASIN=B001O2SDJI" target="_blank">UK</a>)</p>
<p>But even if you aren&#8217;t in Ireland, the possibilities of being exposed to Irish are endless! As I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">mentioned before</a> you can use <a href="http://www.meetup.com" target="_blank">meetup.com</a> or other social networking sites to see if there are other interested Irish learners in your city, and you can practice it through twitter as you learn it. I do this with <em>all </em>of my maintained languages so you can follow me <a id="aptureLink_6fENJ3w1Bq" href="http://twitter.com/ilteangach">@ilteangach</a> <em>as Gaeilge</em>, and make sure to check out the hashtag this week for <a href="http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23snag" target="_blank">#snag</a> (Irish language and culture week) or <a href="http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23gaeilge" target="_blank">#gaeilge</a> to see tweets in and about Irish.</p>
<p>You can also <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/multilingual-computer/">change the language of your computer</a> and software to be entirely in Irish! Firefox, Open Office, Ubuntu and many more interfaces are available <em>as Gaeilge</em>.</p>
<p>Then of course there are lots of sites online to help you practice your Irish. Here is a small sample:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.ie/education/features/learn-irish-with-liam-o-maonlai-692551.html" target="_blank">Liam Ó Maonlai</a> has a free online course with PDFs and MP3s for download. The audio has some typical phrases that you can repeat.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/gram.htm" target="_blank">Gramadach na Gaeilge</a> &#8211; An extremely in-depth look at Irish grammar. Perhaps more interesting to linguists due to how extremely detailed it gets!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com" target="_blank">Irish Gaelic Translator forum</a> &#8211; Get an almost instantaneous answer from a native or fluent speaker of the language on simple questions and short translations. This forum is very active and will be a great help! There is also the <a href="http://www.daltai.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html" target="_blank">Daltaí forum</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abair.tcd.ie/index.php?page=synthesis&amp;lang=eng" target="_blank">Abair.ie</a> &#8211; An amazing voice synthesiser for Irish text. It uses the beautiful <em>Tír Conaill </em>accent (Ireland&#8217;s 3 main dialects are quite different!!) and can help train you in your pronunciation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rte.ie/rnag/" target="_blank">RnaG</a> &#8211; Ireland&#8217;s main Irish language radio station that you can listen to <em>live</em>. This is the best way to hear what the language actually sounds like! The entire page is in Irish, but click on &#8220;RnaG beo&#8221; (beo=live) link beside the radio image in the top-right to open up the stream.</p>
<p><a href="http://beo.tg4.ie/" target="_blank">Tg4</a> &#8211; Ireland&#8217;s Irish language <em>TV </em>station. What&#8217;s better than listening to the radio in Irish? Watching TV shows originally in Irish! Check out the <a href="http://beo.tg4.ie/main.aspx?level=RosnaRun" target="_blank">Ros na Rún</a> page (and click &#8220;Féach ar&#8221; [watch]) to watch a <em>soap opera </em>entirely in Irish! There are many more categories, but the site is navigated entirely in Irish of course.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.irishdictionary.ie/dictionary" target="_blank">Irish dictionary</a> &#8211;  free online dictionary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.focal.ie/Home.aspx" target="_blank">Focal.ie</a> &#8211; A free <em>technical </em>dictionary. Not good for basic words, but gives declensions and plurals for a lot of words; for intermediate and higher level learners.</p>
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<p>You can also check out <a id="aptureLink_G7wiYb8or8" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pt741fxKw">a video I made</a> about my experience in the Gaeltacht. The course I took was given by <a href="http://www.oideas-gael.com/" target="_blank">Oideas Gael</a> in Donegal and takes place regularly every year for all levels. My Irish is far from perfect (my accent is definitely not as lovely as so many others that you would hear), but you can see some videos I&#8217;ve made entirely in Irish (most with subtitles) on my <a href="http://www.irishpolyglot.com/ga" target="_blank">Irish videoblog</a>. I don&#8217;t update it regularly, but I&#8217;m hoping to make a somewhat silly video next week about the Irish language.</p>
<p>I hope this post gives those of you out there curious about the language a little hint into how to learn and use it! Let me know in the comments about your own Irish learning experiences! Don&#8217;t forget to share this post with your other <em>Irish-at-heart </em>friends through twitter and facebook <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>What <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/my-thailand-experience/">an experience</a>!!</p>
<p>This &#8220;dipping my toes&#8221; in my first Asian language has helped me see so many things I hadn&#8217;t realised before, despite the extremely little amount of time that I actually put into it, i.e. about 15 hours in the first month exclusively to be able to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">read the symbols</a> and understand the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">tone rules</a>, and the time around making the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/say-something/">video</a> just before leaving. What I <em>really</em> learned was in the many other hours I had of interactions with other learners and English speakers.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be surprised to see what I have taken away as the most important lessons; they have little to do with techniques for learning tones or dealing with Thai&#8217;s differences from European languages and more to do with general lessons relevant to other languages and those very interactions with other learners.</p>
<h2>Confidence to speak is what holds pretty</h2><p>&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>What <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/my-thailand-experience/">an experience</a>!!</p>
<p>This &#8220;dipping my toes&#8221; in my first Asian language has helped me see so many things I hadn&#8217;t realised before, despite the extremely little amount of time that I actually put into it, i.e. about 15 hours in the first month exclusively to be able to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">read the symbols</a> and understand the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">tone rules</a>, and the time around making the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/say-something/">video</a> just before leaving. What I <em>really</em> learned was in the many other hours I had of interactions with other learners and English speakers.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be surprised to see what I have taken away as the most important lessons; they have little to do with techniques for learning tones or dealing with Thai&#8217;s differences from European languages and more to do with general lessons relevant to other languages and those very interactions with other learners.</p>
<h2>Confidence to speak is what holds pretty much EVERYONE back</h2>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what language you are learning; Asian or European, the reason you aren&#8217;t speaking it is <em>because you aren&#8217;t confident enough</em>. Learning all the grammar, tone rules, vocabulary and exceptions seems to be the way that a lot of people achieve this confidence. In my opinion, this is inefficient. The study and learning aspect is still very important, but only for <strong>improving </strong>on your spoken level, <strong>not for getting the confidence to be able to speak</strong>.</p>
<p>Learners focused on the details say that they will be <em>ready</em> to speak the language when they have <em>enough</em>. My 3-month missions are possible because I gain this confidence through speaking rather than through studying. You can speak in your first days of really trying (as I showed in the video), and gaining confidence this way takes <em>way less time</em> than through trying to know a language inside and out. That was a tough morning for me, but it was like tearing off a band-aid &#8211; doing it quickly was the best way. After that weekend I was confident in speaking Thai in so many situations in my final days, that I just wasn&#8217;t &#8220;ready&#8221; for before.</p>
<p>My lack of readiness was nothing more than a barrier that I had put up myself. The only real regret that I have in this mission is that I didn&#8217;t <strong>start </strong>with speaking and have that confidence from my <em>first </em>weekend rather than my last one. I would have effortlessly improved my speaking habits over the entire stay, even with very little work. In future I won&#8217;t wait to speak &#8211; reading aspects will come <em>after </em>that and not before it.</p>
<h2>Flashback of other learners&#8217; &#8220;encouragement&#8221;</h2>
<p>Since my approach involves immersion, I simply don&#8217;t tend to associate so much with English speakers, or if I do, it would be <em>through </em>the language we are both learning. The benefits of this are <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">obvious</a>, but I had long forgotten one really important reason that also pushed me towards this learning strategy.</p>
<p><em>Other learners can be very discouraging! </em></p>
<p>In this Thai mission, this was just a minor annoyance because (as you can imagine) I&#8217;m already confident enough. You could call it arrogance, but the whole point is that I&#8217;m telling everyone else how they can do it too and that I&#8217;m not special. But I got a flashback to when I was learning Spanish and my enthusiasm was curbed by other English speakers at a time when I was way more vulnerable. When people hear you speak a language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">pretty well</a> they can&#8217;t really do much to discourage you, but when you are still <em>trying </em>and not quite succeeding, they can be very unhelpful.</p>
<p>Frankly, English speakers have standards that are way too high on perfection in languages.  I can think of <strong>very few </strong>times over the last <strong>seven </strong>years that a native has given me <em>any </em>unhelpful criticism (as opposed to helpful corrections and such) in the languages that I&#8217;ve learned, with the exception of the French (more specifically, Parisians, but I&#8217;ll be writing a post soon about a revelation I&#8217;ve made in my French/Paris experience thanks to a return visit there).</p>
<p>However, I have gotten an amazing amount of negativity from English speakers also learning the same language. This attitude is something I struggle to understand, but to be honest I find it easier to simply <em>avoid it </em>by avoiding English speakers altogether. It&#8217;s sad (especially when it also means I&#8217;m avoiding non-language-learner travellers, who have actually hugely enriched my Thailand experience), but fighting against anglophone negativity (unlike Latino and Asian friendliness) is energy I&#8217;d rather spend on speaking with natives.</p>
<p>Since I obviously have a &#8220;strange&#8221; way of going about learning language of <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">focusing on the positive</a>, I unintentionally got into a few arguments with people about the ideal approach. In always trying to see what&#8217;s easy in a language, other learners were constantly showing me what&#8217;s hard. I am <strong>way </strong>off speaking Thai well, but everything they told me looks like something that would take a <em>finite </em>amount of time to be able to absorb and I am very sure that they would be achieved quicker with an upbeat attitude.</p>
<p>Any list of exceptions and rules that they could give me, I could counter them with a similar list for <em>any other language</em>. Thai is clearly way more different to English than French is, but Thai doesn&#8217;t have noun genders, irregular plurals, definite/indefinite articles, complicated rules for use of prepositions, difficult conjugations and so much more. If I say this you can counter with more things Thai has that European languages don&#8217;t, but what&#8217;s the point? It just turns into a pissing competition for whose language is &#8220;harder&#8221;.</p>
<p>Having a view of several languages gives me a unique perspective, and I can say that an astounding amount people seem to believe that <strong>their task is the hardest one</strong>. Thai is harder, or Czech is the hardest language in the world etc. Sorry guys, but there is no hardest language in the world. I said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again; it&#8217;s all about attitude <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  With a negative attitude <em>anything you do </em>can and will be hard.</p>
<h2>You still need other learners</h2>
<p>Despite what I said above, avoiding other learners is not a great solution. While I still think that Asian languages aren&#8217;t as different the monster that I thought they were, I couldn&#8217;t have gotten my head around the differences so quickly <em>without help</em>. Natives usually aren&#8217;t in the position to explain these differences&#8230; and this seems much more so in Asian languages, which means you need to turn to someone focused on the details! Uh oh&#8230;</p>
<p>Voicing my approach of learning languages got me into quite a few arguments with other learners &#8211; this was <em>not </em>a good idea. Obviously I&#8217;m very passionate to share my approach with others, but the lack of evidence I could provide this time (since I wasn&#8217;t actually speaking the language I was learning for once) meant that I wasn&#8217;t going to convince them by words of positivity alone. I should have accepted this from the start because some of the advice that they had given to me was actually really good and I should have tapped that resource for more! In future I&#8217;ll argue my point a lot less and just let the evidence speak for itself, since I will be working hard in nearly all future missions and not just casually curious like I was with Thai.</p>
<p>Others can help you so much in your language endeavours &#8211; even if you happen to be against the academic or other <em>approach</em> that they use, what they know is essential and important information. If they have been learning longer than you, they can definitely make things easier in your own journey when asked for advice.</p>
<p>Although I am a little annoyed at the cynical direction that the discussion went in the <a href="http://www.thaivisa.com/" target="_blank">thaivisa</a> forum, some of the advice given was fantastic! I was given a link to <a href="http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/post-a105050-Thai-Font-Paper.pdf.html" target="_blank">a pdf file</a> to help me get my head around the <em>font </em>issue in Thai that I had mentioned, shown a great page on the Thai-language site for <a href="http://www.thai-language.com/id/798459" target="_blank">recognising tones</a>, and given lots of other interesting facts about how Thai works. They were really very helpful (when not arguing how silly I was)! I definitely recommend other Thai learners to try out that forum, but maybe don&#8217;t show that you think that Thai <em>might just </em>not be that hard, and definitely don&#8217;t mention my name <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My friend Aleksandra also believed that it was important that I knew the difficulties of Thai to get a more rounded view &#8211; once I stopped trying to argue this point and asked for specific advice, her knowledge was essential. The video I made would not have been possible without her coaching me and correcting me.</p>
<h2>Everyone needs to be flexible</h2>
<p>So I&#8217;m clearly torn! Avoid other learners or learn to get along with them? The first one is not a healthy solution; especially since I tend to live in <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/villages-for-immersion/">cities</a> and I am genuinely interested in helping others learn languages quicker, so I&#8217;m just going to be meeting more and more learners. So I&#8217;m going to swallow my pride and try to be flexible &#8211; at the end of the day, no matter how great I think my approach is, it isn&#8217;t perfect and is always open to improvements! Hopefully this flexibility will encourage the other party to be so as well, and see some benefits of what I might have to say <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>From this conclusion, my next mission will have this theme of improvements. I am going to be trying some new (to me) approaches that I never had before because I had dismissed them as incompatible with my view of language hacking. This <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/start-a-blog/">blog has exposed me to</a> so many other points of view and a lot of people say that they are combining my strategy with other ones, and happy with the combination.</p>
<p>Why should they have all the fun? <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll be test-driving some other learning approaches, which may not be as social as what I usually do, but may indeed have some interesting merits for <em>learning a language quickly</em>.</p>
<h2>End of Thai mission</h2>
<p>In the end I achieved all of what I had <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">initially aimed for</a> &#8211; with the exception of not attempting to read unprepared text to a native. The real point of the mission was confidence in an Asian language, and I feel ready to aim for something much much higher next time I try <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  So I consider this mission a success! I now award myself 4 out of 5 stars for the achievement:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gold_star.png" alt="" width="31" height="29" /><img src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gold_star.png" alt="" width="31" height="29" /><img src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gold_star.png" alt="" width="31" height="29" /><img src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gold_star.png" alt="" width="31" height="29" /><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/empty_star1.png" alt="" width="32" height="30" /></p>
<p>The mission was mostly a break for me &#8211; when I reveal the next ones you&#8217;ll understand <em>why </em>I needed such a break!</p>
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<p>I hope you&#8217;ve enjoyed this story! The next one will be way more interesting and the target way higher than anything else I&#8217;ve aimed for before <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But first, I&#8217;ll be sharing some details on how to learn the Irish language, my own tips on it, a video and several other posts. I&#8217;ll also be introducing another project I&#8217;ll be working on over the next months (other than the mission) very soon.</p>
<p>Let me know what your views are on experiences with other learners! Share your thoughts on anything mentioned here, in the comments <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p><em>Travel update &#8211; no language tips in this (long) post</em></p>
<p>My experience in Thailand has ended and I&#8217;m already back in Europe (in Paris for the weekend, Ireland for the next 3 weeks and then starting the next 3-month mission). I&#8217;ve learned quite a lot in terms of general life lessons, as well as for learning languages of course, but first I&#8217;ll give a travel summary to continue from <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/first-impressions-of-thailand/">my first impressions</a>.</p>
<h2>Ko Phi Phi &#8211; my favourite island</h2>
<p>Just after my last travel update (in Phuket), I made my way to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%20Phi%20Phi%20Don">Ko Phi Phi</a> (pronounced <em>gaw pee-pee</em>; yes, romanisation in Thai is very misleading). I stayed for about a week, and it was by far the best week of my entire Thailand experience!</p>
<p><a name="aptureLink_sHOVsn5LNC"></a><em>Phi Phi </em>is a magnet for young (mostly beautiful young Swedish) party seekers, and those with dreams of finding their <em>Beach</em>. In fact,&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p><em>Travel update &#8211; no language tips in this (long) post</em></p>
<p>My experience in Thailand has ended and I&#8217;m already back in Europe (in Paris for the weekend, Ireland for the next 3 weeks and then starting the next 3-month mission). I&#8217;ve learned quite a lot in terms of general life lessons, as well as for learning languages of course, but first I&#8217;ll give a travel summary to continue from <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/first-impressions-of-thailand/">my first impressions</a>.</p>
<h2>Ko Phi Phi &#8211; my favourite island</h2>
<p>Just after my last travel update (in Phuket), I made my way to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%20Phi%20Phi%20Don">Ko Phi Phi</a> (pronounced <em>gaw pee-pee</em>; yes, romanisation in Thai is very misleading). I stayed for about a week, and it was by far the best week of my entire Thailand experience!</p>
<p><a name="aptureLink_sHOVsn5LNC"></a><em>Phi Phi </em>is a magnet for young (mostly beautiful young Swedish) party seekers, and those with dreams of finding their <em>Beach</em>. In fact, the Leonardi DiCaprio movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The%20Beach%20%28film%29">The Beach</a> was filmed in an adjacent island.</p>
<p>However, coming here to find an unspoilt paradise would leave you disappointed; the island is extremely touristy and chaotic, and quite expensive for Thailand. Although I was immediately struck by how clear the water was when getting off the ferry, I wouldn&#8217;t call what I had seen to be the most beautiful destination.</p>
<p>I actually did want to just party for a week and I got that and more! Open-access areas on the beach have music and a sandy dancefloor, and there are amazing fire shows; a fire skip-rope, fire limbo and fire juggling. Anyone can participate, and most do! I&#8217;d love to say how brave I was, but to be honest I only did the fire limbo when it was at the highest level and skipped the rope when the flames were least strong. Quite a few people got burnt!</p>
<p>What made this destination such a great party for me was how friendly the other tourists were there. It&#8217;s amazing, but even the attitude of other travellers changes between the islands (see below). I had absolutely no problem making some cool new friends; for weeks afterwards I would be elsewhere in Thailand and would be recognised by someone I had met in Phi Phi (although, I have ways of making myself easily recognisable that those who&#8217;ve been out with me know about!)</p>
<p>Parties (and seeing so many beautiful Swedish girls) aside, the main reason this island gave me the highest quality experience for this trip was actually because of people I had met <em>online </em>and ended up spending most of my time with there &#8211; fellow bloggers and &#8220;tweeps&#8221; <a href="http://twitter.com/TropicalMBA">Dan Andrews</a>, Tom, <a href="http://www.seanogle.com/" target="_blank">Sean Ogle</a> and his friend <a href="http://www.followmeeverywhere.com/" target="_blank">Ryan</a>, as well as <a href="http://manvsdebt.com/" target="_blank">Baker</a> and his family. They hugely enriched my entire Thailand experience; I had some amazing conversations, learned a lot from them, and finally got to hang out with some other &#8220;location independent&#8221; workers, which is something we all had in common. Most people I tend to hang out with in my travels usually wouldn&#8217;t even know what twitter is, let alone be as active online as my Phi Phi friends are.</p>
<p>I made sure that we worked together on <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/video-5-tones-of-thai/">my video</a> and I was video interviewed by both Sean and Baker (I&#8217;ll link to those videos when they become available). Sean wrote an interesting post about how Phi Phi is where the <a href="http://www.seanogle.com/travel/koh-phi-phi-the-land-where-the-productive-go-to-die" target="_blank">productive go to die</a> (i.e. getting any work done there is quite hard!) and I&#8217;ve been lucky to have been able to spend more time with him in Bangkok in my final weeks. I&#8217;ll otherwise be keeping in touch with that group until we meet again!</p>
<h2>The inexperienced tourist</h2>
<p>After Phi Phi, things kind of went downhill for the rest of my Thailand travels before I decided to settle in Bangkok. As initially stated, I was trying out being an <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-english-is-all-you-need/">English speaking tourist</a> while in Thailand.</p>
<p>There are advantages to that style of travel, and it may be preferable for some people, but it really is not for me. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I can be viewed as just as much of a tourist even when living in a city for several months and speaking its language, but pure-English-speaking tourism is not something I&#8217;ve ever experienced outside of countries that don&#8217;t have English as an official language. For my own curiosity and for the purposes of giving a rounded view on this blog (as I&#8217;ll be writing here for quite a while!), I really wanted to experience the other point-of-view.</p>
<p>This meant that learning Thai was purposely given the backseat and very little time commitment (once again, I had already said I&#8217;d be doing this when <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">announcing the mission</a>; some people seem to have misunderstood that I was aiming for fluency in Thai). I don&#8217;t regret this decision as I had wanted a new experience; even if it was bound to lead to some disappointment. I also think that a break from intensive language immersion and allowing myself to get to know so many English speaking travellers has been nice, especially since I will be speaking almost <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">no English</a> for the entire rest of the year starting in a few weeks time.</p>
<p>I have genuinely learned some important things from this experience.</p>
<h2>Full Moon bucket-drinking session?</h2>
<p><a name="aptureLink_7jEAVgqok3"></a>I went to Samui and based myself there for about a week surrounding the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full%20Moon%20Party">Full Moon party</a>; one of the most famous parties in the world and on so many people&#8217;s lists of things to do before they die. To be totally honest, I was quite disappointed.</p>
<p><a name="aptureLink_wA8i3otIDF"></a><a name="aptureLink_kPRQU11A57"></a> It didn&#8217;t seem to have anything special in it, and I wonder if people enjoy it so much simply because of the number of buckets of alcohol (yes, alcohol is served in <em>buckets </em>in Thailand) that they&#8217;ve consumed. As a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">non-drinker</a> I have a different perspective on such things, and I never shut up about how amazing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-weQYbiyM">Burning Man</a> or the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdOB2STweOc">Brazilian Carnival</a> or other large festivals or events are, even though there is clearly a lot of drinking going on in such events too.</p>
<p>But the Full Moon party was just some beach party that happened to have a lot of people. The day I was there had the brightest moon of the year (due to its elliptical orbit), but you would barely have noticed it because of all of the lights coming from the bars and nightclubs. I hate to sound like a nostalgic traditionalist (I like my <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/villages-for-immersion/">cities</a> and development more than anyone), but I imagine that it would have been an extremely different and very special event in its early years.</p>
<p>For example, this time last year I was on a secluded beach in India with no artificial lights during a full moon and it was one of the most breathtakingly beautiful sights that I have ever seen in my life. The whole beach was spectacularly lit up in an eery black-and-white way from the light of the moon and seeing my shadow cast in such contrast with no sun or artificial lights was something I had never experienced before. The potential to enjoy yourself with friends in such a set-up is amazing. The Phangan-based party could be just as well called <em>the monthly beach drinking session </em>in my opinion.</p>
<p>Also, unlike in Phi Phi, a lot of the tourists at the FMP are on an extremely brief (between one weekend and one week, for example) trip to Thailand specifically for the party. It was quite hard for me to make friends with those crowds and the people I already knew at the party were extremely difficult to find in the chaos. I think if you are a big drinker or go with a group of people, you would enjoy yourself much more than I did, but you could have a beach party <em>anywhere</em>; to me, the FMP was pure quantity rather than quality.</p>
<p>After that I had caught a bug and was bedridden for several days in Ao nang. Hopping between major tourist destinations was getting old and I had put almost no work at all into learning Thai, so it was time to go north. I spent a few days in <a id="aptureLink_wem7vQNktm" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang%20Mai">Chiang Mai</a> and found the pace of the city and university population to be a reminder of things I liked in other cities that I&#8217;ve lived in (<a id="aptureLink_tSe8IlBy1e" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia%2C%20Spain">Valencia</a>/<a id="aptureLink_74MKuez5hS" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamanca">Salamanca</a> in Spain and <a id="aptureLink_A7fKChTiFT" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse">Toulouse</a> in France for example).</p>
<p>However northern Thai is extremely different (as far as I could gather, a much greater dialect difference than what I&#8217;ve come across in European language dialects), so the little I had learned from the reading part of the experiment would have been rendered almost useless, and any formal indications (in books etc.) on speaking Thai would have been focused on Bangkok&#8217;s dialect. So I decided to go back there for my final weeks.</p>
<h2>Bangkok</h2>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that I came back to Bangkok for its own version of Thai because I ended up just spending most of my time indoors and didn&#8217;t even <em>begin </em>speaking or practising it until my <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/say-something/">final weekend</a>. Once again, looking at my finances grimly reminded me that I needed to do another 3-week stint of double-time work 7 days a week. Such a work commitment has actually <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/hitting-a-brick-wall-in-your-language-progress/">prematurely ended</a> one of my previous missions, but luckily what I was aiming for in Thai was much simpler and I&#8217;m happy with what I achieved in the very little time that I put into it.</p>
<p>As you can imagine, I am getting quite sick of being locked in my room for such long stretches every few months. Despite enjoying my work, that experience is still quite stressful and extremely antisocial. I&#8217;ll be discussing an idea with you soon to hopefully get me out of that pattern.</p>
<p>There was one extra thing to make my Bangkok experience even less authentic! As I wanted to find an apartment as soon as possible (I had been living in hotels for my entire stay up to then; interestingly, that didn&#8217;t contribute to financial problems since it&#8217;s so cheap in Thailand), I chose the first place I saw that was modern, efficient for working in, right by a skytrain stop and near lots of restaurants. The flat itself was perfect for my purposes but what I didn&#8217;t notice when taking it was that it was a 2 minute walk from&#8230; (those who know Bangkok, get ready to do a <a id="aptureLink_pB4DYODBb1" href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cqcEwyFy9ECiVM:mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/picard-facepalm.jpg">facepalm</a>) <a id="aptureLink_ZFO3eMQqnm" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana%20Plaza">Nana plaza</a> . One of the world&#8217;s most famous red-light districts.</p>
<p>So every time I went out just for a bite to eat, I&#8217;d get pestured by dozens of (both female and <em>she-male</em>) prostitutes. Seeing how many men were in Thailand for sex tourism was infuriating, and getting grabbed and propositioned when walking down the street was something that I just had to learn to ignore. Not quite the impression of Thailand I was hoping to leave with!! This is of course, entirely my own fault for not being better organised; I apologise to all Thais and to locals living here; I will come back another time to get a real perspective on Thai culture, I promise!! I will definitely not be claiming that I &#8220;know Thailand&#8221; after this superficial experience.</p>
<p>In the few breaks that I did take from work, I got to spend more time with some more location independent workers. Bloggers seem to like doing video interviews, since I had been invited for several other ones, including with <a href="http://www.thrillingheroics.com/" target="_blank">Cody McKibben</a> and <a href="http://muselife.com/" target="_blank">David Walsh</a> (that I&#8217;ll also include in a video summary post), both amazing individuals that I&#8217;ve learned so much from in our brief chats!<img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1714" title="tweeps" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tweeps.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="225" /></p>
<p>Bangkok seems to be some kind of centre of gravity for so many interesting people, and despite my own lack of congruence with the English-speaking travellers&#8217; world, I got to appreciate a whole new different type of culture through them. English speaking expats in themselves have something special that they share, which can&#8217;t easily be associated with the country that they come from. There&#8217;s an anglophone culture in Bangkok that simply can&#8217;t be overlooked, and I can understand why so many people are flocking here to experience it.</p>
<p>So having said all of that, this 2-month stay in Thailand has been an eye-opening and extremely different experience for me. I&#8217;ve had my ups and downs, and I have learned way more than I was expecting to, and am still processing and reflecting on my short but intense visit there.</p>
<p>Most important of all, I did genuinely make some excellent friends. On my last full day, I went (artificial) <a id="aptureLink_Zne0M3TEFf" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakeboarding">wakeboarding</a><em> </em>with the guys and <a id="aptureLink_vp4TjyAL7q" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishpolyglot/4406652510/">had a great time</a> with them. I will miss them a lot, but I&#8217;m still a nomad at heart, so it was time to move on. It feels good to be back in Europe where things make a little bit more sense to me <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>In the next post, I&#8217;ll summarise the language part of my Thai mission, especially detailing mistakes that I&#8217;ve made, and my overall impressions of “dipping my toes” in my first Asian language.</p>
<p>Once I have done that, I would like to spend the next few weeks talking about something that a lot of my readers have shown an interest in, before I begin my first intensive language mission of 2010. I will be in Ireland for St. Patrick&#8217;s day for the first time in years, and the lead up to this is what is known as <em><a href="http://snag.ie/lang/en-us/" target="_blank">seachtain na Gaeilge</a> –</em> over a week to celebrate the Irish language and culture. To attempt to contribute to this, I would like to share ways of learning more about the Irish language (and culture) through this blog (between some posts with more general language and other tips), as well as making one or more videos about the topic.</p>
<p>Hopefully you&#8217;ll enjoy that!! In the meantime, if you have any thoughts on what I&#8217;ve written here, feel free to leave a comment. Please note that this post is just me thinking aloud about my Thai experience, so try not to take offense at anything I&#8217;ve said here as it&#8217;s just my opinion, nothing more. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>My 8 weeks in Thailand are up &#8211; I had made some great progress in reading <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">Thai symbols</a> and <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">tone rules</a> in the first month, but for nearly all of the last 3 weeks in Bangkok I&#8217;ve have to work double time and have, unfortunately, barely been out of my apartment! This meant that the <em>speaking </em>part of my Thai mission <em>hadn&#8217;t even begun</em>.</p>
<p>On Friday (3 days ago at the time of writing), I could <em>not </em>speak Thai. I had never gone beyond saying <em>please, thank you, hello, </em>and <em>excuse me, </em>and learning some vocabulary that I had never even used. I just &#8220;didn&#8217;t have the time&#8221; &#8211; I was working from 8am to 10pm the entire week (including weekends). There was no hope&#8230;</p>
<p>Having said that, have a look at this video I made over the weekend, <em>entirely in Thai</em>:</p>
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<p>My 8 weeks in Thailand are up &#8211; I had made some great progress in reading <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">Thai symbols</a> and <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">tone rules</a> in the first month, but for nearly all of the last 3 weeks in Bangkok I&#8217;ve have to work double time and have, unfortunately, barely been out of my apartment! This meant that the <em>speaking </em>part of my Thai mission <em>hadn&#8217;t even begun</em>.</p>
<p>On Friday (3 days ago at the time of writing), I could <em>not </em>speak Thai. I had never gone beyond saying <em>please, thank you, hello, </em>and <em>excuse me, </em>and learning some vocabulary that I had never even used. I just &#8220;didn&#8217;t have the time&#8221; &#8211; I was working from 8am to 10pm the entire week (including weekends). There was no hope&#8230;</p>
<p>Having said that, have a look at this video I made over the weekend, <em>entirely in Thai</em>:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Unfortunately there is a lot of noise because the video is recorded in the streets of Bangkok. However, you can hear me fine because I speak loudly. I&#8217;m afraid all foreign languages can&#8217;t sound like they do in Rosetta Stone&#8217;s soundproof voice-recording room. </em> <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In today&#8217;s post, I&#8217;d like to show you how I went about making that video, and give you a glimpse into my train of thought when taking on a language!</p>
<h2>Stop making excuses and speak!!</h2>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m just as prone to making lazy excuses as anyone else. I&#8217;ve learned quite a few things in this trip about how <em>not </em>to learn a language, which I&#8217;ll be sharing with you soon enough.</p>
<p>However, I have certainly confirmed (through my own mistakes and through discussions with other learners of Thai) that the main difficulty <strong>almost everyone </strong>has in speaking <em>any </em>language is simply their own excuses holding them back. &#8220;It&#8217;s <em>too hard</em>, I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/scared-to-meet-new-people/">too shy</a>, I can&#8217;t practise <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">without travelling</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-convince-natives-to-speak-to-you-in-their-language/">locals only speak</a> English with me&#8230;&#8221; and of course everyone&#8217;s favourite: &#8220;<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/">I don&#8217;t have time</a>&#8220;. The last one was my excuse in Thailand. But that&#8217;s all these are: excuses. You have the potential to get past these issues if you <em>really </em>tried.</p>
<p>Since I had <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">initially promised</a> to make a video and to speak at least the basics, and I had my secret weapon of a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/start-a-blog/">great community to encourage me</a>, I decided to let go of excuses. This even included <em>common sense</em> such as &#8220;you&#8217;ll <strong>never </strong>be able to do all that in just one weekend!!&#8221; When letting go of these excuses, my goal was simply to <strong>just say something</strong> beyond pleasantries.</p>
<p>The title of this post is taken from the Lonely Planet <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travel-phrasebooks-a-serious-language-learners-best-first-book-to-study/">phrasebooks</a>; you really do have to stop worrying and just simply <em>start speaking</em>. Say what you know and learn more based on what you need to say. This goes against the linguists&#8217; and academics&#8217; approach of perfecting a language until you are &#8220;ready&#8221; to speak it, and is an approach I&#8217;ll be criticising a lot on this blog. That approach works great if you want to pass an exam, but if you want to communicate with actual human beings you have to get over your excuses and <em>speak</em>; and do this as soon as possible.</p>
<p>For the purposes of the video, all I needed was the introduction, numbers, and the most common words used in restaurant and haggling situations. That is a small enough amount to learn in a morning; nobody can doubt that. Just <em>applying it </em>after having learned to say nothing <em>but </em>those words/sentences is what a lot of people may be scared of.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually not that bad if you try it!</p>
<p>This is a similar realisation I made when I <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">first </a><em><a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">really tried</a> </em>to speak a language, but speaking <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-english-is-all-you-need/">too much English</a> in Thailand got me out of my usual rhythm. Maybe I could have used the excuse that I need &#8220;my routine&#8221; to really speak a language? Another lazy excuse&#8230;</p>
<h2>Use &#8220;video editing&#8221; skills in your daily encounters</h2>
<p>I made the above video to give you a better idea of the mentality I have in the initial stages of learning a language. It shows my first ever attempts at <em>speaking </em>Thai. I promise that before Saturday morning I couldn&#8217;t say anything you see in the video except for <em>thank you </em>and <em>hello</em>.</p>
<p>The main reason I want to show you this video is not to brag about the not-actually-impressive level of Thai that I&#8217;ve reached, but to show you a little of the magic of <em>video editing</em> and how you may be able to apply the same concept to your own next language. You don&#8217;t need any camera or editing equipment for that; I&#8217;m talking about <em>memory </em>editing.</p>
<p>People are excellent filters. Those using the aforementioned (and other) excuses are great for filtering out the good and focusing on the bad, and way too many language learners are like this.</p>
<p>Those who have a glass-is-<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">half-full</a> attitude will focus on the positive and ignore <em>unhelpful</em> negativity. Any embarrassing mistakes they make will be used as positive learning opportunities. Rather than focusing on the embarrassment, they&#8217;ll see the mistake made, learn from it, and then probably forget about the actual embarrassing part of the encounter; just <em>editing it out</em> from their general language learning story. Looking back, all they see is the progress being made. This is the same way that &#8220;<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/learn-to-be-lucky/">lucky</a>&#8221; people tend to live their lives.</p>
<p>Getting unnecessarily discouraged will <em>never </em>help you to speak a language, and this is why I focus so much on positivity on this blog. It&#8217;s a key-factor to successfully make fast progress.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I made this video; to show you how I simply filter out any experiences that don&#8217;t contribute to my goal &#8211; what <em>&#8220;actually&#8221; </em>happened (for the cynics out there)<em> </em>was the following:</p>
<p>I recorded the first scene over <strong>fifteen times</strong> &#8211; just before this, I spent over 10 minutes repeating exactly the same introduction to my friend Aleksandra (who speaks fluent Thai). She corrected me until I had <em>most </em>of the tones and pronunciation right. The first time I recorded it, I was very nervous; it was the first time I had ever said more than two words in Thai, and I couldn&#8217;t read anything to help me. I stuttered and paused, forgot to say words, got easily distracted by people walking by, and in some takes I couldn&#8217;t even <em>start </em>speaking &#8211; even <em>hello </em>escaped me in one take.</p>
<p>And in the marketplace, I&#8217;ve only shown you the parts of the video where I understood what is going on. The parts where they said something to me that I didn&#8217;t understand, or when they spoke in English, are simply edited out. I had a total of 10 minutes of footage, but the video is only 2 minutes long.</p>
<h2><strong>This is how you have to view your progress in a language</strong>.</h2>
<p>When presenting it to others you may call a video like this misleading, so I don&#8217;t want people to think that I can confidently speak in Thai like in the video all the time (I can&#8217;t). You might just say that I&#8217;m nothing more than a confident parrot, but I succeeded in buying items for a price I was happy with, and ordering food in a restaurant, and even introducing a video, without using any English. To me, this is an achievement to be proud of, especially when done in just one weekend.</p>
<p>There is no need for modesty, especially when thinking to yourself. A video like this is <strong>exactly how I think </strong>of my progress in a language. All the bad bits get edited out. The stumbles and misunderstandings and red-faced-embarrassment are used for emotional impact to not make the same mistake again, but then can just be otherwise forgotten. Any times I succeed and am proud of myself will be remembered.</p>
<p>This is not to say that the negative times don&#8217;t count; the first <em>14 takes </em>of the introduction were crucial in getting the last one right. As I said, I had<em> never spoken more than 2 words </em>before, so I was quite nervous. Repeating the introduction on camera, aware that possibly thousands of people may end up watching this, and seeing that it wasn&#8217;t really that scary, got me over that nervousness.</p>
<p>You can see how confident I am in the rest of the video <em>because</em> of breaking through that nervous stage. It only took <em>a couple of </em><em>minutes </em>- just trying, instead of making excuses, gave me the confidence to speak<em>.</em><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>By just getting out there and finally speaking, I got over my nervousness.<br />
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<p>The unpleasant parts were essential steps to the fun parts, but you can bet that I have no interest in reviewing the edited-out footage. Rather than dwell on the past, I make sure that I&#8217;ll have even more positive results in the future.</p>
<p>In a video, it&#8217;s easy to do this with a few clicks, but in your day to day interactions it takes some effort to get over negative experiences. You have to make the extra effort; keep a personal journal (or a blog as I mentioned already), just describing the positive, so that you can look back on it and remember all the amazing moments of progress if you are feeling discouraged, or do whatever else it takes to <em>forget the &#8220;hiccups&#8221;</em>.</p>
<p>When I look back on my weekend speaking Thai, I&#8217;ll be remembering it the same way you have just seen it. The other parts were dull so I&#8217;ll just erase them from my mind. I may not be doing an amazing job, but I now have the confidence to speak Thai, and that is the whole reason I came here in the first place. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>In the next post(s) I&#8217;ll summarise my time in Thailand and go into more detail on some of the mistakes I&#8217;ve made here for the mission, despite the fact that I am genuinely satisfied with the overall result, especially considering the little time investment I actually made.</p>
<p>I needed this break, because the next language mission will be <strong>very</strong> challenging, and even <em>ridiculous </em>in what I&#8217;ll be aiming for.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think of the video; some people may tell me how bad my tones are and say that I&#8217;m a fraud for making an edited video (although, pretty much every video you have ever seen has been edited in some way to make it look better), but being the positive-filter that I am, that negativity will barely make a scratch on me <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Hopefully I can convince others to implement the same confident approach!</p>
<p>Any one of you could make exactly the same video in any language; all you have to do is try <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Looking forward to your comments as always! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Share this post on facebook/twitter/stumbleupon/e-mail everyone you know/yell it through a megaphone at everyone in the street/put up posters around your neighbourhood, or otherwise share it if you liked it!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>When you take on any major project like <em>learn a language, get out of debt, lose weight </em>etc., out of all the things that can hold you back from reaching your goal, there is one that stands out above all the rest:</p>
<p><strong>Motivation</strong></p>
<p>You clearly want it; it could even be one of the major priorities in your life. But despite that, the monstrous size of the task ahead can get intimidating and you can lose the momentum that you had when you started it. The list of reasons why it&#8217;s &#8220;<em>impossible</em>&#8221; start to raise their ugly head and you become deflated and distract yourself with TV, or go out for a few <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">drinks</a>. Next thing you know, months have passed and you haven&#8217;t made any progress at all.</p>
<p>Well, today I want to talk about <em>one simple step </em>that you can take, which is completely free, that&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>When you take on any major project like <em>learn a language, get out of debt, lose weight </em>etc., out of all the things that can hold you back from reaching your goal, there is one that stands out above all the rest:</p>
<p><strong>Motivation</strong></p>
<p>You clearly want it; it could even be one of the major priorities in your life. But despite that, the monstrous size of the task ahead can get intimidating and you can lose the momentum that you had when you started it. The list of reasons why it&#8217;s &#8220;<em>impossible</em>&#8221; start to raise their ugly head and you become deflated and distract yourself with TV, or go out for a few <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">drinks</a>. Next thing you know, months have passed and you haven&#8217;t made any progress at all.</p>
<p>Well, today I want to talk about <em>one simple step </em>that you can take, which is completely free, that may just change all that. It&#8217;s not magic, but it has worked wonders for a huge amount of people, including me. You&#8217;ll have to bear with me though, since I know this might raise an eyebrow of sceptics out there!</p>
<p>Here it is:</p>
<h2>Start a blog</h2>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t mean a site portraying pictures of your cat. Remember the origins of the word &#8220;blog&#8221;: we<span style="text-decoration: underline;">b <em>log</em></span>. You need a log of your progress &#8211; but a blog is way more than a journal/diary that you write in. It can literally change your life:</p>
<p>For example, this post was inspired <em>entirely</em> by a <a href="http://www.seanogle.com/travel/improve-your-life-in-just-one-easy-step" target="_blank">post</a> on my friend <a href="http://www.seanogle.com" target="_blank">Sean Ogle</a>&#8217;s blog. He has an interesting story; he had an <em>OK </em>office job, but it just wasn&#8217;t doing anything for him. His life <em>wasn&#8217;t that bad</em>, but what kind of life is <em>not bad</em>? The prospect of being chained to a desk for life doing something he wasn&#8217;t passionate about, did not look very bright.</p>
<p>So he started a blog to share his dreams of travelling the world, working on his own terms, fulfilling his bucket-list, and generally living his dreams. And you know what? The blog <em>made it happen</em> (well, of course <em>Sean </em>made it happen, but the blog was what made it possible for him to do it). He got encouraging comments, committed himself to a goal that he was public about, quit his job, made some amazing contacts that gave him work opportunities, and is now working location-independent right here in Thailand, with a whole world of possibilities awaiting him.</p>
<h2>External pressure, encouragement and connections from the global community</h2>
<p>Sean&#8217;s story isn&#8217;t unique. Here in Thailand I have met countless people whose lives have been transformed by simply clicking some buttons and typing some words. People sharing their dreams of <a href="http://manvsdebt.com/" target="_blank">getting out of debt</a>, visiting <a href="http://www.chrisguillebeau.com/" target="_blank">every single country in the world</a>, or generally <a href="http://www.thrillingheroics.com/" target="_blank">living by their own terms</a>, and <strong>succeeding</strong>.</p>
<p>So how is their blog and approach different to the vast amount of rubbish that you can find on <em>blogger</em>?</p>
<p>Well, they have worked on building a <strong>community</strong> around their goals. Rather than complain about how hard it is, they focus on the <em><a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">positive</a> </em>and share their tips on how others can achieve the same goals, and they engage readers to comment and keep the discussion going. Those readers will have their own experience and advice to share, especially if they have similar goals &#8211; through sharing, everybody wins.</p>
<p>Apart from the community, there is also <strong>pressure </strong>to achieve what you said you would. You are publicly announcing it to the world, rather than just to a couple of buddies next door. It&#8217;s a mind-altering thought that an Internet-enabled villager in Africa, or a rich billionaire, or a tango instructor in Buenos Aires, or a cook in Moscow can access your claim to reach your objective. The whole world is watching.</p>
<p>When I started this blog, any quantity of readers would do. Even  a few dozen was fine &#8211; breaking a promise that I had made to about <em>50 </em>people was not something I was willing to do, so that forced me to keep working so that I would have something to show for it in my next post.</p>
<h2>My own extra pressure</h2>
<p>Of course, the community following this blog has grown much faster than I had ever anticipated, but I&#8217;d treat the pressure the same if it was 50 or 1000 or 100,000 readers, especially since a lot out of those first 50 were commenting (and still do) regularly and giving me the sense that they were curious and eager for me to succeed in my (language) <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">mission</a>.</p>
<p>This has changed <strong>everything</strong>. I&#8217;ve been learning languages on the road for 7 years, but the last 9 months have definitely included the hugest jumps I&#8217;ve made in the shortest time (such as speaking <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">Czech</a> in <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">two months</a> and Brazilian Portuguese <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">like a Carioca</a> in 3 months). Also, I have not given up when I was losing my motivation (which naturally happens at different stages in any huge project), because I felt like I <em>wasn&#8217;t alone </em>in that project. Other people out there wanted me to succeed too!</p>
<p>For example, several years ago I was learning <a id="aptureLink_l36FeuPwo9" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan%20language">Catalan</a> in Barcelona, but just stopped one day and never got back into it. I had simply lost my drive to continue. I don&#8217;t have career-driven purposes to learn languages; it&#8217;s just my own interests in expanding my horizons. But if I get bored I might just decide that maybe I should ditch it. Who cares really? Even with actually important projects, it&#8217;s sometimes hard to picture the end. Even for Sean, everything was <em>fine </em>in his office job; he could have just written off travelling the world and being his own boss as a silly pipe-dream.</p>
<p>However, through this blog everything has changed for me, and it&#8217;s all thanks to you, the readers. I&#8217;ve gotten tips, a ridiculous amount of encouragement, and even the negative and cynical comments have given me extra purpose, just to prove them wrong <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h2>Starting the blog itself</h2>
<p>I said it was simple, right? Well &#8211; you just need to go to <a id="aptureLink_6Q49nkpord" href="http://wordpress.com/">wordpress.com</a> and sign up. It really is that simple; you can have a post out in less than a minute! You can think of an interesting language-relevant name for the blog; or just use your own name if you like!</p>
<p>However, to get the best out of your blog, make sure to set it up fully, personalise it to your own style, and learn about the extra features like widgets and plugins. Here is a <a href="http://www.problogdesign.com/wordpress/the-ultimate-guide-to-setting-up-wordpress-after-an-install/" target="_blank">great guide</a> (albeit extremely detailed and somewhat technical) for doing that.</p>
<p>Wordpress.com is completely free. Alternatively, you can buy your own domain and <a href="http://www.wordpress.org" target="_blank">install wordpress</a> on it, however this step really is not necessary for most blogs, especially if you&#8217;d prefer not to pay. You get your own sub-domain blog name through the free version anyway. If you decide later to expand on it, Wordpress makes that <a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/01/03/how-to-move-from-wordpresscom-to-wordpressorg/" target="_blank">really easy</a>.</p>
<h2>Engaging your community</h2>
<p>As Sean suggests, this concept of a blog to achieve your dreams can be applied to pretty much any aspect of your life, but for the purposes of this site I&#8217;ll give language goals an honourable mention.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m not the only one with a blog about learning a language, and giving tips I learn along the way! Once you have your blog and have introduced your mission, to get people to read it and join in, you have to get out there! Just writing posts (even amazing content) is not enough to bring them in.</p>
<p>What I like to do before I start a mission is genuinely ask for tips on how to best learn that language through online forums. I&#8217;ve used Lonely Planet&#8217;s <a href="http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/" target="_blank">Thorntree</a> (for the travel/immersion aspect) and <a href="http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/index.html" target="_blank">How to learn any language</a> for the language aspect (both are fine for pretty much any destination/language: <a href="http://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html" target="_blank">Couchsurfing&#8217;s groups</a> have also been helpful). And then I&#8217;ll see if there are any forums specifically for the language I&#8217;m interested in. Usually Googling <em>[language name] + forum </em>will give you several options, and you can see by posting frequency which one is the popular one. <a href="http://www.thaivisa.com/" target="_blank">Thai visa</a> has been great for Thai advice, although <a href="http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Guy-s-Effort-Learn-Thai-8-Weeks-t327591.html" target="_blank">it actually found me</a>, rather than the other way around this time&#8230;</p>
<p>These forums usually have an introduction section, and you can mention your blog there. When you have a few posts behind you later on, you can link to them if they helpfully answer questions that someone posts on the site.</p>
<p>It goes without saying that for a non-language mission you could do exactly the same thing for equivalent forums for your own purpose. You may have to write in the forum several times before you are allowed to leave a link to your site (to prevent spamming), but this is a great excuse for you to get into the community, and contribute to other threads! Some sites allow you to have a &#8220;signature&#8221; associated with each post, and you can leave a link to your blog in that and just talk about the topic at hand, rather than your own blog/mission.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s still not enough &#8211; to engage your community, you have to get out there (virtually speaking of course) once again, and <em>comment on other sites</em>. Most blogs include a URL option in the comment form that you can auto-fill to include a link to your blog. Encouraging comments, engaging comments and even criticism (only constructive; the web has enough <a id="aptureLink_16oX2qfoMx" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll%20%28Internet%29">trolls</a> as it is!) that contribute to the discussion are best. (Talking just about your own blog is usually not a good idea). When other readers (not necessarily the owner of the blog) see your comment and your positivity or interesting contribution, they may just click your name to see what else you have to say&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, you should be responsive to comments on your own site, and encourage discussion in posts (asking questions and opinions). That&#8217;s where the real community begins around your own project.</p>
<p>This is ideal, however some blogs may be read by a <em>lot </em>of people, but still not commented on as much. In this case you can see how popular it is over time by redirecting the default <a id="aptureLink_rpdw8o4bNT" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F65ZTtI0Cx8">RSS</a> feed address to <a id="aptureLink_AvChf7WAho" href="http://feedburner.google.com/">feedburner</a> so that it can count the (approximate) numbers of readers (that is described in the link I gave above). E-mail subscribers are also included in the same count.</p>
<p><a id="aptureLink_LdW0cIG81Z" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%20Analytics">Google Analytics</a> (once again, how to use it, is given in the above link) is fantastic for seeing the numbers of people coming to your site every day (and how they found you).</p>
<p>Another vague indication is the Alexa rating; you can install a <a href="http://www.alexa.com/toolbar" target="_blank">toolbar</a> (or unobtrusive status bar in Firefox) and see how the site&#8217;s popularity increases over time. That number represents the ranking out of <strong>all </strong>websites on the entire Internet covered by Alexa statistics &#8211; the next milestone I&#8217;m aiming for will be 100,000(th). Time will tell if I make it! Of course, it&#8217;s just a silly and inaccurate number, but having that to aim towards contributes to driving me to continue to write some good posts and of course <em>succeed in my missions, </em>so more people check out the site to come and encourage me <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<h2>Language blogs</h2>
<p>So to wrap up this post, I&#8217;ll share a few links of just a small sampling of those that have commented on my site with their own  language learning blogs. Make sure to drop by their sites and leave a comment or two and subscribe if you like them! With some comment exchanges, you can help one another to achieve your language goals <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://ichestudiolangues.com/" target="_blank">Ich estudio langues</a> &#8211; As the multilingual title suggests, Jessica is taking on several languages simultaneously!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fluenteveryyear.com/" target="_blank">Fluent every year</a> &#8211; Randy&#8217;s site has a familiar title, but a time-frame that you may find more down-to-earth!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ikindalikelanguages.com/blog/" target="_blank">I kinda like languages</a> &#8211; Interesting topics being discussed about general language acquisition</p>
<p><a href="http://otevotnyelv.blog.hu/" target="_blank">Öt év &#8211; öt nyelv</a> (5 years, 5 languages) &#8211; Actually in <em>Hungarian</em>, but you&#8217;d be surprised what you can understand through Google Translate!</p>
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<p>Have you got a blog documenting your language learning adventure? If not, why not make one right now? <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Then come back and leave a comment with a link to your site so others can check it out! If you already have one, tell us about it and about what you are doing! What I said above about just talking about your own blog in a comment not being good &#8220;<em>n</em>etiquette&#8221; &#8211; that rule doesn&#8217;t apply this time! Go crazy!</p>
<p>And those of you who have (or might now make) a blog for other projects, do let us know how that blog has changed things for you! As always, I love to hear read your comments about anything <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>When considering where to move to in a country, there seems to be this general consensus that you&#8217;ll have a greater feeling of immersion, both cultural and linguistic, if you choose a small town / village over a major city.</p>
<p><strong>I disagree.</strong></p>
<p>If you happen to like villages for their serenity, pace of life etc., then by all means it&#8217;s the place for you! But if you think your experience will be any more authentic than someone in a major city, or if you think this will provide you with a superior way of linguistic immersion for <strong>speaking the language</strong>, you&#8217;re kidding yourself.</p>
<h2>Finding culture in city life</h2>
<p>I happen to prefer cities; I simply get bored in villages and small towns, even if they are amazingly beautiful &#8220;hidden away&#8221; beach paradises. I like activities and things to do, and personally travel specifically to meet as many interesting people&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>When considering where to move to in a country, there seems to be this general consensus that you&#8217;ll have a greater feeling of immersion, both cultural and linguistic, if you choose a small town / village over a major city.</p>
<p><strong>I disagree.</strong></p>
<p>If you happen to like villages for their serenity, pace of life etc., then by all means it&#8217;s the place for you! But if you think your experience will be any more authentic than someone in a major city, or if you think this will provide you with a superior way of linguistic immersion for <strong>speaking the language</strong>, you&#8217;re kidding yourself.</p>
<h2>Finding culture in city life</h2>
<p>I happen to prefer cities; I simply get bored in villages and small towns, even if they are amazingly beautiful &#8220;hidden away&#8221; beach paradises. I like activities and things to do, and personally travel specifically to meet as many interesting people as possible, so I am not so much concerned about sites or seeing as many places as possible in a country, and I especially have no interest in proving myself as a <em>true traveller</em> by getting &#8220;off the beaten track&#8221;. This isn&#8217;t <em>better</em>, it&#8217;s just my own personal style.</p>
<p>One thing that especially interests me is the <em>modern culture </em>of a country. In villages, they may still follow old traditions, be very religious/spiritual, and more &#8220;true&#8221; to how most people lived centuries ago even in cities, but there is a certain uniqueness to how countries adapt to globalisation and technology that I find really interesting (more specific language-related examples in later posts).</p>
<p>So to me, there is definitely lots of culture to be found in city life; on metros, in shopping malls, in tucked away side-streets, and even on the Internet (for pages relevant to the city, or social networking). It&#8217;s a different culture to that of villages, but it&#8217;s no less authentic or unique.</p>
<p>Even villages have their commonalities internationally; not as much through international communication as in cities, but due to traits that us humans tend to share when we have a particular lifestyle. Time I&#8217;ve spent in small towns on different sides of the planet have shown me that we really aren&#8217;t all that different.</p>
<p>But I have to admit that I like my nightclubs, lots of varied food options as a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travelling-vegetarian/">vegetarian</a>, international communities like <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/couchsurfing-how-to-practise-with-a-native-without-even-needing-to-leave-your-home/">Couchsurfing</a>, cinemas, other foreigners so I can practise <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-become-a-polyglot/">other languages</a>, and all the other things that you can find pretty much in any major city. As a long-term traveller, these things make me feel at &#8220;home&#8221; and give me some sense of consistency in an otherwise constantly changing world! So I like the balance between the familiar and the new. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h2>Using villages for language immersion</h2>
<p>One thing I always seem to hear from others before starting my language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">missions</a> is that I&#8217;m making a mistake in choosing a major city to do it in. It&#8217;s obvious that in villages there may be more motivations to speak the local language due to less likeliness of meeting locals with any English, other foreigners etc., but I feel this approach of being forced to speak the language has some major drawbacks.</p>
<p>The only time I&#8217;ve used a village for linguistic immersion was Glencolmkille to <a id="aptureLink_9swrHk2FVY" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pt741fxKw">improve my Irish</a>. Every other language mission has mostly involved me living in major cities; Prague for <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">Czech</a>, Rio for <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">Portuguese</a>, Rome for <a id="aptureLink_T6BxKd2xII" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xKu9FqvFNk">Italian</a>, and a big bunch of other major cities over the last 7 years (with just brief visits to villages).</p>
<p>You can absolutely get the same level of immersion in both a major city and in a village, but there is a big difference in how you will go about this, and to be frank, the reasons that villages force you to speak more may not benefit you as much in the long run. In a city you can make a conscious decision to avoid <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-the-transition-from-typical-english-speaking-tourist-to-local-language-speaking-expat/">English-speaking expats</a>, surround yourself with local friends, convince locals to help you, and struggle with separating the English-speaking world from the local-language one by making a conscious decision to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">stop speaking in English</a>.</p>
<p>These commitments require a lot of self-determination and resolve and if you are successful, then you will be able to even continue speaking and improving that language when you are <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">not even in that country</a>, thanks to getting over this psychological barrier that villages rarely present. Or if you move to another city in the same country, you will have a very similar success rate.</p>
<h2>City-life makes you more committed in the long-run</h2>
<p>Learning in a village may end up making you <em>need </em>that lack of English to be able to confidently speak the language. I&#8217;ve seen it time and again; even if someone has an intermediate level of the language thanks to their village stay, once they meet someone with good English, they&#8217;ll get intimidated and give up because they are <em>not used to trying</em>. Or once they move back home, they will be too intimidated to practise with any natives they come across there, who will very likely speak English.</p>
<p>In a village you simply don&#8217;t have the choice. If you use the village as a tool to reach a good spoken level of the language, you may very well do that. But you may <strong>not </strong>have reached the level of confidence of being able to speak the language when you finally move back to city-life.</p>
<p>On top of this, villages don&#8217;t always guarantee you that pressure. You just need <em>one </em>friend to speak English with you there to destroy the entire concept of full immersion, making a village equally useful and useless as a city.</p>
<p>A lot of people can rightly call me very stubborn when it comes to speaking foreign languages; in most cases I will win over and get to practise, since I have ways of <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-convince-natives-to-speak-to-you-in-their-language/">convincing locals</a> to help me.</p>
<p>I especially find that there is regularly a mini-battle between me and (for example) some proud <em>Français</em> over who gets to practise<em> the other person&#8217;s</em> language. If I was Mr. Nice-guy then I&#8217;d always give in, and my French would definitely not be anywhere near as good as it is now. However, I have <em>hugely improved </em>my French living outside of France thanks to my stubbornness and determination to practise it every chance I get.</p>
<p>I learned most of this stubbornness from my difficult stay in Paris; I may complain about that city a lot, but it has overall had a very positive affect on my ability to improve my languages, which a pleasant stay in a village in the south wouldn&#8217;t have given me. If I had learned French in a village then I wouldn&#8217;t have had to fight the battle against those who wanted to use me to practise their English. I wouldn&#8217;t have had advertisements in English to ignore, or the challenge of convincing someone exhausted from meeting <em>yet another foreigner </em>who wants to practise their language. I also wouldn&#8217;t have tried specifically to make local friends, since in a village it happens anyway.</p>
<p>All of this is extra work, but I&#8217;d argue that it&#8217;s part of the natural process of immersion and maintaining your level of a language. A village shields you from this work and this can come back to bite you in the arse later.</p>
<p>People in villages are generally really nice and more than happy to speak to you in their language. Some people in cities (of course, it depends hugely on the culture; <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-i-love-brazilians/">Brazilians</a> for example have never stopped me from speaking Portuguese!) may not be so helpful. Sorry guys, but that&#8217;s the way the world works. You can&#8217;t hide in a village forever!</p>
<p>In my opinion, learning this skill of convincing someone to speak to you in their language is among the most important skills you can acquire if you don&#8217;t plan on forgetting the language after a brief stay in the country. Learning languages isn&#8217;t all grammar and vocabulary; sometimes you need to become a stronger person and more confident in your own abilities.</p>
<h2>Then again, most people aren&#8217;t up for the challenge of city life</h2>
<p>Of course, a lot of people come to foreign cities and cave under the pressure of other expats and English-enthusiastic locals and end up speaking very little of the local language. Too many people in fact &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen it dozens of times and I&#8217;ll always be a little disappointed to see the vast amounts of English speakers living in a city permanently, with little of the local language. With a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">different approach</a> they could easily learn the language quickly.</p>
<p>So maybe my aggressive approach just isn&#8217;t for them and they could do with external factors forcing them to speak the local language. In that case villages really are the best answer. Then again, we could always force them to practise the language with ransom notes for their kidnapped puppies&#8230;</p>
<p>But do you really need to be forced to speak the language? Any achievements you make in a village are based on the exact same potential that you would have in a city. Surely you can look inside yourself for that motivation that initially drove you to take the step to move abroad for your language dream? There are great challenges for those attempting to learn a language by immersion in a major city, but the long-term benefits far outweigh the extra work required, as long as you&#8217;re willing to put in that extra work.</p>
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<p>Of course, I write this post to you from a city! In the end, I chose Bangkok to conclude my Thai experiment.</p>
<p>With just over 2 weeks left in this project, I have been both facing challenges (that, interestingly are not new to Asian languages for me at all; <em>laziness</em> will hold you back from learning any language!) and discovering how my first Asian language was <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">not as hard</a> as I had thought. I&#8217;ve had some interesting discussions <a href="http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Guy-s-Effort-Learn-Thai-8-Weeks-t327591.html" target="_blank">with other Thai learners</a> and I&#8217;m convinced that despite the differences and the huge amount that I still have left to learn, the hardest aspect of both an Asian and a European language are essentially the same: confidence, commitment and an efficient learning approach.</p>
<p>Moving to a village in Thailand (or anywhere for that matter) won&#8217;t change <em>me</em>. I&#8217;d still have the same personal confidence and commitment issues to battle with, despite forced external pressure from lack of English speakers. My lack of time investment in this particular project (due to work, travelling, that episode of Lost that I <em>had </em>to watch, and various other excuses) is an <em>internal </em>issue, and changing my external environment would be ignoring that fact.</p>
<p>Despite the fact that I&#8217;m still not <em>speaking </em>Thai yet, I am not going to give up so easy! In my remaining 2 weeks I still have some fight in me and I&#8217;m still convinced that I&#8217;ve got a decent chance of achieving everything that <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">I had initially aimed for</a>. I have a secret weapon that makes sure that I don&#8217;t give up so easily, and I&#8217;ll be discussing that weapon (which you too can very easily use!) in the next post! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, is city life really a better long-term solution, or do villages have an extra charm that can&#8217;t be ignored? Are you too nice to convince someone who wants to speak English with you, to speak their own language? Am I just too cynical about what&#8217;s needed in the long-term? Do you agree with a commenter on this site&#8217;s <a href="http://www.facebook.com/fluentin3months" target="_blank">Facebook page</a> that <em>you can&#8217;t spell authenticity without <strong>city</strong></em>? Share your thoughts in the comments!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>Over the last month, I&#8217;ve changed my ways of trying to communicate in the local language, and I&#8217;ve been living the life of a typical English-speaking tourist.</p>
<p>This is the first time in a long time that I&#8217;ve tried this, as I almost always work on linguistic immersion as a means of getting to know a culture. The results of this experiment have been eye-opening for me, especially since I can compare it to the alternative through years of experience.</p>
<p>So, enough talk of learning <em>other languages</em>. How can that possibly enrich your life if you are already a native speaker of the<em> [ironic mode on] </em>best language ever?</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s post, I&#8217;m going to give some arguments shared by my fellow English speakers, on why learning another language really is just a waste of your time. You can travel the world <em>just </em>with English, and here&#8217;s why:</p>
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<p>Over the last month, I&#8217;ve changed my ways of trying to communicate in the local language, and I&#8217;ve been living the life of a typical English-speaking tourist.</p>
<p>This is the first time in a long time that I&#8217;ve tried this, as I almost always work on linguistic immersion as a means of getting to know a culture. The results of this experiment have been eye-opening for me, especially since I can compare it to the alternative through years of experience.</p>
<p>So, enough talk of learning <em>other languages</em>. How can that possibly enrich your life if you are already a native speaker of the<em> [ironic mode on] </em>best language ever?</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s post, I&#8217;m going to give some arguments shared by my fellow English speakers, on why learning another language really is just a waste of your time. You can travel the world <em>just </em>with English, and here&#8217;s why:</p>
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<li>In many places, you will have no problem ordering food and checking into your hotel entirely through English. This is, after all, pretty much the only reason you ever need to talk to other human beings: to get French fries and an air-conditioned bedroom. Actually <em>getting to know</em> the locals is a waste of your precious travel time</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re an English speaker, you don&#8217;t have any work at all to do in learning the international language! You automatically have the advantage over everyone else, as it should be. All English speakers agree that this is perfectly fair, so it is!</li>
<li>The most important things to do in other countries are: taking pictures of the sites, going on package tours and eating food in restaurants with translated menus. Making a local friend, eating with their family and going out with them to somewhere <em>not </em>recommended in your tourist brochure / Lonely Planet guide can only lead to trouble; all foreigners want to kill you remember.</li>
<li>You will find lots of other tourists to hang out with wherever you go. It&#8217;s way more logical to travel thousands of kilometres to hang out with people from just down the road; you share so much in common! Foreign countries are so weird; it&#8217;s best to avoid any kind of immersion and stick to what you know!</li>
<li>Learning another language is hard and takes decades of study. On top of this, research has shown that after a certain age it is impossible. An adult could never learn a language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">quickly</a>.</li>
<li>You simply don&#8217;t <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/" target="_blank">have the time</a> to learn even some basic phrases and polite pleasantries; on the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/learning-on-the-flight-over/" target="_blank">flight over</a> for example you have some important reading of quality airline magazines to do, as well as staring out the window and squirming uncomfortably</li>
<li>English is the best language in the world and perfectly suited to being the international language. Anyone could find the <a href="http://www.frivolity.com/teatime/Songs_and_Poems/english_is_tough_stuff.html" target="_blank">inconsistent spelling rules</a>, unnecessary formalities, huge amount of synonyms, irregularities and vast differences between dialects super easy to master. It&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s any <a id="aptureLink_5t4zxHrMon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto">good competition</a> for international language or anything.</li>
<li>English will <em>always </em>be the international language. I know we said this for Latin&#8230; then French&#8230; but we mean it this time!</li>
<li>England and the US have no bad history with any other country on the planet, so everyone loves to hear English. You are doing the locals a favour by spreading the world&#8217;s best language!</li>
<li>Foreigners use of English can never be <a href="http://www.engrish.com/" target="_blank">confusing</a></li>
<li>If they occasionally make it hard to understand, it&#8217;s <strong>their </strong>fault. You went to <em>all that trouble </em>to buy a plane ticket to their country, so they should have the common decency of speaking a language from the other side of the planet.</li>
<li>Actually forget what I said about common decency, since that rule doesn&#8217;t apply to you; you speak the special chosen language!! It&#8217;s great to be the exception to the rule, isn&#8217;t it?!</li>
<li>If the person doesn&#8217;t speak English, they aren&#8217;t worth speaking to. They probably all have simple lives, spending their days in tree huts. University educated locals that work in the tourist industry are your key to an authentic experience!</li>
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<p><em>[Ironic mode off]</em></p>
<p>OK, seriously &#8211; the last month has been among the least interesting of all my travels. Thailand&#8217;s islands are pretty, but this style of travel is not for me. There are so many things missing, and this post shows that I really don&#8217;t understand other travellers&#8217; attitude when it comes to learning at least a little of the local language.</p>
<p>It seems that most of them either think that learning the local language is unnecessary (which I disagree with, and will go into detail about another time), or is <em>too hard </em>or too time consuming; which I&#8217;m hoping this blog can help to disprove.</p>
<p>I suppose it comes down to different styles of travel. Some people take breathtaking photos of their destinations, and measure their travels in kilometres covered, number of countries visited, new foods tasted and perhaps even names of unknown villages they discovered. My criteria are much more simple: the experiences I have with those I meet. Sorry guys, but talking with Australians, Brits, Americans, Canadians, South Africans and other Irish that happen to be on the same path.. is not enough for me.</p>
<p>This post is mostly venting my own frustration in a disappointing last month, rather than trying too hard to criticise other modes of travel. I&#8217;m back to the style of travel I like, and that&#8217;s all that really matters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll follow this post up soon with a more positive look on how speaking the local language can hugely enrich your travels. My bouncing around is over, and I&#8217;m back in Bangkok now (just for 3 more weeks), attempting to speak the little Thai I know every chance I get, and to improve on it every day. The experience is much greater and I feel like I&#8217;ll be leaving Thailand with something extra than if I had left after just following the typical path covered by millions before me.</p>
<p>Learning some of the local language isn&#8217;t that hard, and I hope I can convince some people of that on this blog. Let&#8217;s stop being typical English-speaking tourists <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>Here I am, at the starting stages of speaking a language once again, and I&#8217;m reminded of how it felt taking a similar first step into playing the piano and other instruments I&#8217;ve learned.</p>
<p>Since my feelings would likely be shared by others, I asked my friends <a href="http://twitter.com/irishpolyglot">on twitter</a> how <em>learning a language is like learning a musical instrument</em> and I got the following interesting replies:</p>
<ul>
<li>Both are about listening carefully and learning how to reproduce the sounds you hear. Then you add your own style (@<a href="http://twitter.com/pocketcultures" target="_blank">pocketcultures</a>)</li>
<li>You need persistence at first, and the rewards increase the better you get (@<a href="http://twitter.com/pocketcultures" target="_blank">pocketcultures</a>)</li>
<li>Schools are surprisingly crap at teaching it (@<a href="http://twitter.com/VladDolezal" target="_blank">VladDolezal</a>)</li>
<li>FUN!! (@<a href="http://twitter.com/VladDolezal" target="_blank">VladDolezal</a>)</li>
<li>To learn a language or instrument you need to keep at it. Practice  every day, even if only for 10 minutes. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/Erinzita" target="_blank">Erinzita</a>)</li>
<li>You can be terrible</li></ul><p>&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>Here I am, at the starting stages of speaking a language once again, and I&#8217;m reminded of how it felt taking a similar first step into playing the piano and other instruments I&#8217;ve learned.</p>
<p>Since my feelings would likely be shared by others, I asked my friends <a href="http://twitter.com/irishpolyglot">on twitter</a> how <em>learning a language is like learning a musical instrument</em> and I got the following interesting replies:</p>
<ul>
<li>Both are about listening carefully and learning how to reproduce the sounds you hear. Then you add your own style (@<a href="http://twitter.com/pocketcultures" target="_blank">pocketcultures</a>)</li>
<li>You need persistence at first, and the rewards increase the better you get (@<a href="http://twitter.com/pocketcultures" target="_blank">pocketcultures</a>)</li>
<li>Schools are surprisingly crap at teaching it (@<a href="http://twitter.com/VladDolezal" target="_blank">VladDolezal</a>)</li>
<li>FUN!! (@<a href="http://twitter.com/VladDolezal" target="_blank">VladDolezal</a>)</li>
<li>To learn a language or instrument you need to keep at it. Practice  every day, even if only for 10 minutes. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/Erinzita" target="_blank">Erinzita</a>)</li>
<li>You can be terrible at it and still find it enriching. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/foxnomad" target="_blank">foxnomad</a>)</li>
<li>You need to immerse, listen, produce, practice, understand unique patterning of sounds (@<a href="http://twitter.com/smittytabb" target="_blank">smittytabb</a>)</li>
<li>With both, the more you learn the more you realise you have left to learn! (@<a href="http://twitter.com/radioclare" target="_blank">Radioclare</a>)</li>
<li>Both learning a language and playing a musical instrument take patience (esp. from parents/partners) but are so worth it! (@<a href="http://twitter.com/mikeo_s" target="_blank">mikeo_s</a>)</li>
<li>Practice every day / Practice vs. Use dichotomy / Much fast progress possible with dedication / Personally edifying (@<a href="http://twitter.com/markitecht" target="_blank">markitecht</a>)</li>
<li>Many people say of both that you must have &#8220;special talent&#8221; can understand/master the info. Silly in both cases. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/TropicalMBA" target="_blank">TropicalMBA</a>)</li>
<li>Perseverance. Life changing. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/shaunchurch" target="_blank">shaunchurch</a>)</li>
<li>Because both require repetition and practice, and you get better at both with time! Also, because music itself is a language you have to learn before being able to play an instrument! (@<a href="http://twitter.com/iestudiolangues" target="_blank">iestudiolangues</a>)</li>
<li>Both take just hours to start with and years to master (@<a href="http://twitter.com/ikll" target="_blank">ikll</a>)</li>
<li>&#8217;cause first: you give the unrecognizable sounds, then: you begin to miaow, finally: you play the real music = you speak (@<a href="http://twitter.com/Transenter" target="_blank">transenter</a>)</li>
<li>Like music, you learn rhythm and tone, even harmony, and then put your personality into it. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/randem" target="_blank">randem</a>)</li>
<li>You best learn with a good &#8211; human &#8211; teacher in both cases. (@<a href="http://twitter.com/translatrs" target="_blank">translatrs</a>)</li>
</ul>
<p>Thanks to everyone for their interesting responses! A few I&#8217;ll add myself:</p>
<ul>
<li>Some musical instruments are quite similar, as are some languages. Learning a new one of these can make it easier, but don&#8217;t forget to keep practising the old one!</li>
<li>Just because you can read it, it doesn&#8217;t mean you can produce it</li>
<li>It seems that those who do it well just &#8220;pick it up so easily&#8221;. What you don&#8217;t see is the many many hours of work they put into it to reach that stage</li>
<li>Commitment is way more important than natural talent, which simply doesn&#8217;t exist for getting the basics and even a <em>pretty good idea </em>of both music and languages. It&#8217;s actually just an excuse used by those who both can&#8217;t and don&#8217;t really want to put real work in</li>
<li>When you can do either, doors of opportunities are flung open</li>
<li>The sense of achievement when you play&#8230; or speak it in public for the first time are unparalleled.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;m sure there are more &#8211; let us know how you see the similarities between these two amazing fields, in the comments!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>Reading Thai and its tones isn’t as hard as you think</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>My first month in Thailand has come to an end; the purpose of this month for me was to discover a little of the south, be a <em>tourist </em>and be able to grasp the rules on <em>reading </em>Thai.</p>
<p>It was way easier than people warned me it would be, and I&#8217;ve only put a total of about 2-5 hours a week into it. Really. (The real work starts from this weekend; see below)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think I had learned a lot about languages before starting this blog, but I&#8217;ve been exposed to something that will be essential in helping me communicate how you can do it too; waves of scepticism, doubt and negativity through comments and e-mails. This has been a very good thing because I am getting a much better idea of what is holding others back from achieving the same goals, by gaining a deeper understanding of&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>My first month in Thailand has come to an end; the purpose of this month for me was to discover a little of the south, be a <em>tourist </em>and be able to grasp the rules on <em>reading </em>Thai.</p>
<p>It was way easier than people warned me it would be, and I&#8217;ve only put a total of about 2-5 hours a week into it. Really. (The real work starts from this weekend; see below)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think I had learned a lot about languages before starting this blog, but I&#8217;ve been exposed to something that will be essential in helping me communicate how you can do it too; waves of scepticism, doubt and negativity through comments and e-mails. This has been a very good thing because I am getting a much better idea of what is holding others back from achieving the same goals, by gaining a deeper understanding of their perspective, which I honestly think should be changed if they want to make it easier.</p>
<p>I was told that it would take months of pure practise to read Thai without romanisation, and almost 50,000 <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/" target="_blank">stumbles</a> on my post about <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">how I did it</a> has shown that I was on to something in showing that just a few hours is all you really need. Despite that I got <em>warned </em>that it would <em>definitely </em>take months (or years) to learn to decipher Thai tones from the text.</p>
<p>Just because it took you months or years doesn&#8217;t mean that I or anyone else has to follow your same boring timetable <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Let me show you what I mean, by looking at Thai&#8217;s reading/tone roles in two ways:</p>
<h2>The unnecessarily complicated &amp; pessimistic way</h2>
<p>Deciphering Thai&#8217;s 5 tones (mid, low, high, falling &amp; rising) from the script is an intimidating process of remembering if the first consonant is <em>low, mid </em>or <em>high</em> (which you have to remember for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">each</span> of the <em>44 </em>consonants), whether the syllable is live or dead <em>and </em>if there is a tone mark present. Live or dead syllables in turn depend on whether the vowel is long or short or if it ends in an unvoiced consonant.</p>
<p>There are no spaces between Thai words, so it will take lots of work to figure out where one word ends and another begins before you can even begin to apply these rules. Even if you somehow master all of this, English speakers are completely unused to Thai&#8217;s 5 tones so you will likely say them wrong or find it impossible to distinguish them when others speak.</p>
<p>Expect years of hellish labour or give up right now. (Encouraging, huh?)</p>
<h2>There are always shortcuts</h2>
<p>What I&#8217;ve learned from the naysayers is that they tend to look at a problem one-dimensionally. If they wanted to lift something heavy, they&#8217;d get 3 strong men to do it instead of just doing it themselves with a lever or pulley. If they wanted to find a guy named Bob in a room they&#8217;d go up to each man and ask if his name is Bob, instead of just shouting &#8220;Which one of you is Bob?&#8221; And if they wanted to learn a list of rules for how an aspect of a language works, they&#8217;ll write it out in tabular form and learn each cell of the table until it&#8217;s drilled into their head.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unnecessary overkill. Rules like the above one, and basically any set of rules that you need to learn are &#8220;complicated&#8221; when you look at them <em>expecting </em>them to be complicated. I&#8217;ve already said that you need a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">positive outlook</a> and this is what I always apply to languages I learn.</p>
<p>There are always shortcuts, techniques and patterns that will make it much easier if you just look &#8220;outside the box&#8221; (literally; I keep seeing such rules written in tabular boxes!)</p>
<h2>Some Thai reading-rule shortcuts</h2>
<p>I&#8217;ve discovered several ways of reducing the workload of understanding and remembering Thai tone and reading rules. I&#8217;m sure others have seen these patterns too, but from what I can tell a lot of them would not be included in Thai courses. So here is my personal summary of everything you need to know to read Thai quite well in just 11 bullet points.</p>
<ul>
<li>Forget learning the <em>high/mid/low </em>aspect of each consonant. <strong>Well over half of them are low</strong>. So just presume the consonant is low (&#8216;default&#8217;) and learn to recognise the high/mid ones. Work reduced by more than 50%.</li>
<li>In case that wasn&#8217;t enough, reinforce it by remembering that all nasals (m, n, or ng sounds) and semi-vowel consonants (y, w sounds) are low class.</li>
<li>Several symbols have the circle on the left (overall, or from diagonal line) for middle class and on the right for high class. There are a few exceptions, but it helps a bit for recognition. Here&#8217;s some Mid vs High to give you an idea of what I mean</li>
</ul>
<h2>ฎ ฏ ด ต บ ป vs ถ ผ ฝ ศ</h2>
<ul>
<li>Looking for patterns in the annoying table of rules we can see that you can presume that the syllable is a <strong>mid tone </strong>if it ends in m, n, or ng or a long open vowel (<strong>3/4 of the time</strong>; i.e. for both low and middle class starting consonants). So just look out for high class consonants where it would be <em>rising </em>instead and otherwise always presume that it&#8217;s mid tone!</li>
<li>I don&#8217;t see the point of the live/dead syllable notation other than academic labels for linguists. I personally ignore it: if the syllable ends in a <em>k, p </em>or <em>t </em>sound, or has a short open vowel then it&#8217;s a <strong>low tone </strong>for both high and middle class. Low class splits it up further into <em>falling tone </em>(long vowel) and <em>high tone </em>(short vowel) when also ending in the same consonants.</li>
<li>The tone markers <big><big>๊ </big></big>and <big><big>๋ </big></big>are only really used with middle class consonants, so you only need to learn the other two (<big><big>่ </big></big>and <big><big>้</big></big>) in the 3 classes. The &#8220;silent H&#8221; consonant ห is high so this means the whole syllable will have the &#8220;high consonant&#8221; rules applied to it.</li>
<li>The above 3 points are all important points to remember about tone rules. If I&#8217;m missing anything, it just means that I&#8217;m 90-95% covered, which is fine by me. The above points are much easier to learn than 3 seemingly random tables for low/mid/high class consonants.</li>
<li>Learning the alphabet is easy; use the same association techniques <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">I discussed</a> before but add multiple levels and associations to each symbol; First, its alphabetical order number: associating a number isn&#8217;t that hard and will help you look up words in the dictionary; rather than remembering the <em>overall</em> order of the symbols (as we tend to do in English), remember its <em>order number</em> (e.g. ด &#8220;do dek&#8221; is 20th, which was easy for me since it looks like Esperanto&#8217;s word for 20, dudek) and compare to the next symbol! It&#8217;s really effective for using a dictionary. Then learn the name of the letter (chicken, monk etc.). This will help you read Thai letters as the Thais do, as well as expanding on your vocabulary.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t forget to think of the tones as what we have in English as I demonstrated <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/video-5-tones-of-thai/">in the video</a> of the previous post; high is &#8220;surprise&#8221;, rising is &#8220;question&#8221; etc. <a href="http://www.thai-language.com/id/798459" target="_blank">Here</a>&#8217;s a good page for testing your understanding of the tones. The first few times are tricky, but then you get the hang of it and see it isn&#8217;t that bad!</li>
<li>To distinguish between different syllables, it helps a lot to know what almost always denotes the end of a syllable, such as vowels <big><big>ะ</big></big>, or even <big><big>ั </big></big>which shows that there must be a linking consonant next, and which consonants never end a syllable (ฉ, ฌ, ผ, ฝ, ห, etc.) so you know just before them the previous syllable has ended. Also, because you have learned how to read Thai and are learning vocabulary that way rather than through romanisation, you&#8217;ll quickly start to recognise words and know where it has to end.</li>
<li>The consonants ร, ล, ว tend to merge with the preceding one, and you have to learn the irregular combinations ทร = s at the beginning of a syllable and รร = n at the end of a syllable. <big><big>์ </big></big>indicates a silent letter (usually for foreign words like ฟิล์ม &#8220;film&#8221;, with a silent <em>l</em>), <big><big>็ </big></big>shortens the vowel, ฯ means the previous word is abbreviated and ๆ means the previous word is repeated.</li>
</ul>
<p>That&#8217;s it &#8211; nearly all the rules of reading Thai.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen whole books try to present the same information across hundreds of pages. As far as I&#8217;m concerned this is all I need to know for now since I can indeed read words and apply the right tones. If I&#8217;m skipping anything, then I don&#8217;t particularly care as the above will help me read the vast majority of what I need to, and I just need practise to make sure I&#8217;ll do it quickly when under pressure.</p>
<h2>Time for stage two: speaking</h2>
<p>Since I&#8217;m happy with my understanding of reading, I&#8217;m going to move on to the more fun part of learning a language that I usually tend to start with; actually speaking it! I wanted to focus on the least familiar linguistic aspect first, just this once; tones, and script. Now I&#8217;m going back into familiar territory and using my <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">usual methods</a> to see how far I get and how much I can speak before I fly out in a month&#8217;s time! I&#8217;m going to try to aim for a <em>higher </em>(basic) conversational level than my initial goal when <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">introducing the mission</a>.</p>
<p>The south was interesting, but not for me. I was an English speaking tourist my entire time and there are so many things missing that I usually get to have in my travels, even in the early stages of speaking a language. Once I have a basis of comparison from living in the north, I&#8217;ll share my reasons for why learning languages hugely enriches your travels. You would think that it would be obvious, but the amount of tourists without even hello/thank-you in the foreign language disproves that. This is the first time in a <em>very </em>long time that I&#8217;ve used English to travel with in a country that it isn&#8217;t spoken in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going straight to Chiang Mai on Saturday and if I like it there, I&#8217;ll stay for several weeks before going back to Bangkok <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>So, any thoughts on my condensed guidelines for reading Thai, or nitpicks for obscure rules I didn&#8217;t include? In case you haven&#8217;t gotten it yet, discouraging comments don&#8217;t work on me <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  So what I&#8217;d <em>really </em>like to see is <strong>even more patterns </strong>that I&#8217;ve missed. I came up with these in a few short hours study. I&#8217;m sure those way more familiar with Thai could make it even easier for us and show us more simple patterns and short-cuts!</p>
<p>Otherwise, do you think I will indeed have a much more enriched experience living in Chiang Mai? Let me know in the comments!!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>This post includes an embedded video. If you are reading it through RSS or email and don&#8217;t see it, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/video-5-tones-of-thai/" target="_blank">click through</a> to watch it on my site!</p>
<p><strong>Note</strong>: Rather than this video being a how-to about Thai tones, it&#8217;s simply giving an idea of the way that I&#8217;m looking at and approaching them to help to make them easier. Since I had only been in Thailand for just over 2 weeks at the time of filming there are a few mistakes, but it should hopefully help others starting off!</p>
<h2>Blogger cameo roles in the video</h2>
<p>I was going to wait to record this video for another week or so when I would have had a better ear for the tones, but I couldn&#8217;t miss out on the opportunity to work on a shared project with some big names in the blogosphere! I spent an entire week&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>This post includes an embedded video. If you are reading it through RSS or email and don&#8217;t see it, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/video-5-tones-of-thai/" target="_blank">click through</a> to watch it on my site!</p>
<p><strong>Note</strong>: Rather than this video being a how-to about Thai tones, it&#8217;s simply giving an idea of the way that I&#8217;m looking at and approaching them to help to make them easier. Since I had only been in Thailand for just over 2 weeks at the time of filming there are a few mistakes, but it should hopefully help others starting off!</p>
<h2>Blogger cameo roles in the video</h2>
<p>I was going to wait to record this video for another week or so when I would have had a better ear for the tones, but I couldn&#8217;t miss out on the opportunity to work on a shared project with some big names in the blogosphere! I spent an entire week in <a id="aptureLink_3CcxCo3tCU" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi%20Phi%20Islands">Ko Phi Phi</a> and most of that was in the company of some fellow &#8220;location independent professionals&#8221; that went with me to the parties on the beach every night. It&#8217;s definitely been the best part of my Thailand trip so far.</p>
<p>I convinced some of them to help me with this video. They are (in the order you see them):</p>
<p><strong>Sean Ogle <a href="http://www.seanogle.com/" target="_blank">Location 180</a></strong>: Sean quit his job and decided to move across the world and has a great blog about why it&#8217;s not as scary as you think to do that. In person he&#8217;s super cool and really great fun! We&#8217;ll be meeting up again before I leave Thailand for sure!</p>
<p><strong>Dan Andrews <a href="http://twitter.com/TropicalMBA" target="_blank">Tropical MBA</a></strong>: Dan knows his business and he does most of it from somewhere tropical! He runs a cool <a href="http://www.lifestyle-business-podcast.com/" target="_blank">podcast</a> to inspire others to do the same and was giving me some great advice for how I should expand on my blog. His work partner <a href="http://twitter.com/anythingIan" target="_blank">Ian</a> was the cameraman.</p>
<p><strong>Tom Li</strong>: Tom, and the others above are all working together. Tom and I had an amazing time meeting people on the sandy dancefloors!</p>
<p><strong>Adam Baker <a href="http://manvsdebt.com/" target="_blank">ManVsDebt</a></strong>: Adam&#8217;s blog is huge after less than a year since he started it, because apart from really amazing content, he is proving that you can travel the world <em>even if you have a family</em> and showing that there <em>is</em> a way out of debt if you are committed to it and sell all your useless stuff. His beautiful daughter Milly (who also appears in the video) and his wife Courtney are with him on the adventure of a lifetime. He&#8217;s really nice in person!!</p>
<h2>Summary of the 5 tones</h2>
<p>Just to expand on what I said in the video (and correct little mistakes I made), the way I see the 5 tones of Thai are as follows:</p>
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<li><strong>High tone</strong>. This title is misleading because you would think it is just simply a higher version of the middle/low tone, but I actually hear it as <em>rising</em>. It does so in a different way to the rising tone (see below), and I think this can be pretty well represented by shock or surprise as I did in the video. So you start <em>already </em>high and make it higher.</li>
<li><strong>Rising tone</strong>. This title is better, but it&#8217;s important to note that you have to go <em>down </em>before you actually do <em>rise </em>your tone. This is precisely the same as we do in single word questions (like <em>really?</em>) on hearing interesting information.</li>
<li><strong>Middle and low tone</strong>. I still find these two a little hard, so in the video I just focussed on the difference between them; at the moment just making a tone that <em>feels </em>middle or low is what I&#8217;m going with. Since then, from more practice, from what I can tell, the <em>low </em>tone sounds like how we would <em>end </em>a sentence in English. Click the different words <a href="http://learn-thai-podcast.com/blog/learn-thai-lessons/five-tones-in-thai-lesson/" target="_blank">on this page</a> to hear a native pronounce them and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. If you can give a better easy explanation than my &#8220;jaws&#8221; suggestion in the video, say so in the comments <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li><strong>Falling tone</strong>. I totally messed this one up in the video; sorry! (One long take and a lot of stuff to remember, whoops!) In the link in the previous point you can hear what it actually sounds like; it&#8217;s like the opposite to the rising tone in that it starts high and then falls low. It&#8217;s actually not that hard at all; I was just a little distracted in the video.</li>
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<p>One other mistake I made in the video was that despite saying it pretty well on the beach, I said the <em>high </em>tone almost exactly the same as the <em>rising </em>tone (I went down-up, instead of up-up) when giving the example in the last part. I think I sound pretty silly trying to point out the difference between two sentences that sound pretty much exactly the same and shouldn&#8217;t in Thai&#8230;</p>
<p>So overall, I definitely can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ve &#8220;mastered&#8221; tones yet, but I hope that I have a pretty good idea thanks to comparisons with situations in English, as in the video, and with practice they will come! Rather than giving tips in this video, I wanted to just share the learning experience, even in the stage where I&#8217;m still making lots of basic mistakes. And of course, it was a great excuse to work together with the other bloggers on a common project that only took a few minutes!</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m in a small town called &#8220;fisherman&#8217;s village&#8221; despite there not being a single fisherman in sight; great fake title for tourist soundbites though. It&#8217;s on the north part of <em>Ko Samui </em>and I&#8217;ll be getting the 20 minute speedboat to the famous <a id="aptureLink_p3ZMUi9Zqt" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full%20Moon%20Party">full moon party</a> this weekend! Can&#8217;t wait!!</p>
<p>If you have any comments on the video, tips to help me improve my command over the tones, or if you are also a subscriber to the blogs of the guys I got to spend a week with in Ko Phi Phi, do share it with us in the comments!!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p><em>The pessimist says the glass is half empty. The optimist says it&#8217;s half full. The pragmatist says its liquid contents are at 50% capacity. The ironist says it&#8217;s half full of air. The practicalist says the glass is twice as big as it should be. The psychoanalyst says the glass is your mother. The punk sitting next to you on the bus also says the glass is your mother. The zen master says, &#8220;There is no glass.&#8221; And me&#8230;, I say, &#8220;Waitress! Refill!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Each one of these is a different perspective on exactly the same thing. A negative one is by far one of the biggest issues people have that holds them back from learning languages, in my opinion.</p>
<p>In the last 7-8 months blogging and being much more public about my <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">missions</a>, I&#8217;ve gotten lots of positive feedback and an equal about of scepticism. Scepticism is good,&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p><em>The pessimist says the glass is half empty. The optimist says it&#8217;s half full. The pragmatist says its liquid contents are at 50% capacity. The ironist says it&#8217;s half full of air. The practicalist says the glass is twice as big as it should be. The psychoanalyst says the glass is your mother. The punk sitting next to you on the bus also says the glass is your mother. The zen master says, &#8220;There is no glass.&#8221; And me&#8230;, I say, &#8220;Waitress! Refill!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Each one of these is a different perspective on exactly the same thing. A negative one is by far one of the biggest issues people have that holds them back from learning languages, in my opinion.</p>
<p>In the last 7-8 months blogging and being much more public about my <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">missions</a>, I&#8217;ve gotten lots of positive feedback and an equal about of scepticism. Scepticism is good, and I&#8217;ve shown that I too don&#8217;t <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/learn-to-be-lucky/">believe in ridiculous</a> claims so easy.</p>
<p>Despite this, I <em>have </em>achieved these goals. I learned how to speak <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">Czech</a> in <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">two months</a> and I spoke Portuguese <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">like a Brazilian</a> in 3 months. I am confident that I will <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">speak and read Thai</a> in just 8 weeks (at the moment I am aiming to do <em>better </em>than my initial goals with regards speaking; more on this later).</p>
<p>This is much less thanks to genetics and natural talent, and much more down to an efficient approach and a great deal of <em>optimism</em> throughout the task. Optimism isn&#8217;t just having a smile on your face despite setbacks, it can <strong>dramatically </strong>alter the course of your personal missions.<em> </em></p>
<h2>The half-empty perspective isn&#8217;t &#8220;wrong&#8221;, but it holds you back</h2>
<p>People have amazing ways of justifying why it&#8217;s not possible for them. When the target is announced they&#8217;ll give a list of reasons to hold you back from achieving it and why you have your &#8220;head in the clouds&#8221; if you think it&#8217;s possible. And after seeing seemingly impossible tasks achieved they will find a workaround to why it&#8217;s not possible for them and just say that this person is an &#8220;exception&#8221; or a &#8220;genius&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hogwash.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to hundreds of sceptics in the last 7 months and I can now very easily summarise one thing that nearly all of them have in common, and that holds them back from achieving what I have. <strong><em>Their language is half empty</em>.</strong></p>
<p>With the Czech mission, they told me that the 7 grammatical cases, difficult to pronounce letter combinations, vast amount of vocabulary to learn and other factors are what will hold me back. In the Brazilian mission they said that an accent can never be lost, especially over a short time. And you know what? Technically they are indeed right.</p>
<p>The glass in the picture <strong>is </strong>half empty. This is not a falsehood. You can provide evidence and anecdotes of people that have tried hard tasks and failed, you can provide endless facts and lists of things that must be learned that seem like an insurmountable monster and you can constantly remind yourself how hard it is. You aren&#8217;t wrong.</p>
<h2>But there&#8217;s a better way to look at it</h2>
<p>The glass in the picture is <strong>also </strong>half <em>full</em>.</p>
<p>You can look at how easy a language is; how you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thousands-of-words-instantly/">already know words</a> before starting, how a new writing system can be deciphered if you try <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">a different approach</a>, how noun genders <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/gender-issues/">aren&#8217;t that bad</a>, how you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/getting-rid-of-your-english-accent/">can get rid of your accent</a>, or practise the language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">without needing to travel</a>, or achieve your language goals <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/">even if you are busy</a>, etc.</p>
<p>This is what makes me different from those who don&#8217;t learn languages quickly. Everything you read on this blog reinforces how learning languages <em>is not that bad</em> and I focus entirely on the positive. Every barrier that appears in your path can be overcome if you try a new approach and have the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/starting-to-learn-a-language-with-the-right-attitude/">right attitude</a>.</p>
<p>Bad news will always come your way and you have to develop the ability to filter it only for useful facts. When I heard about Czech&#8217;s 7 cases, I found a shortcut and saw that there are lots of patterns, worked on them and decided to just accept 7 cases as a new concept that I&#8217;d incorporate into speaking. It did take some getting used to, but it wasn&#8217;t that bad, especially when I went further and tried to put a <em>positive </em>spin on it.</p>
<p>I <em>could have </em>spent a lot of time complaining about those &#8220;damn&#8221; cases in Czech, but that would <strong>not have helped</strong>. Instead I just said &#8220;Oh well&#8221; and <em>got through them</em>. This is the same thing I do for any challenge in learning a language. The reason I get through them quickly is of course influenced greatly by my learning approach, but I think an almost bigger contributor is the fact that I <em>don&#8217;t look at this task negatively</em>. With a bad attitude, anything can be hard to study and you&#8217;ll get through it much slower and much more reluctantly.</p>
<p>Here in Thailand I&#8217;ve met others who seem to have much greater intelligence and skillset than I do, who are also trying to learn Thai. And yet in talking to them I can see why it will be a struggle and why they may not succeed. <em>They are focussing on the negative</em>. Everything they say is technically &#8220;correct&#8221;, but I am looking at the facts from a different perspective and at the end of the day I <em>will master the language </em>because of this.</p>
<h2>Impossible is impossible</h2>
<p>Never say never, and especially never say &#8220;impossible&#8221;. It&#8217;s a word people throw around too much; for me <strong>impossible is nothing</strong> as Adidas say, or I&#8217;ll go further and say that impossible is <em>impossible </em>for most situations people use it in. If the laws of Physics don&#8217;t prevent you from doing it (clearing your debt, climbing Mouth Everest, learning a language) then it is <strong>NOT </strong>impossible. If anyone in the history of the world has done it, then you can certainly do it. If they haven&#8217;t then what&#8217;s stopping you from being the first?</p>
<p>Constantly reminding yourself and others about how hard something is and getting down because of that is an inefficient <em>waste of time</em>. It&#8217;s like Baz Luhrmann&#8217;s <a id="aptureLink_vVITbvnFjd" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ">sunscreen song</a> says; &#8220;Worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubblegum&#8221;. If something&#8217;s hard, work through it or skip it and come back to it after you&#8217;ve learned something else important for your task, or find a better approach to deal with that hard aspect.</p>
<p>Simple as that. Really.</p>
<p>This is why I generally skip most grammar and <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-the-transition-from-typical-english-speaking-tourist-to-local-language-speaking-expat/">focus on speaking</a> languages from the start (I&#8217;ve got a different approach for Thai, that I&#8217;ll continue to elaborate on). Once you start speaking it (albeit incorrectly), grammar is more interesting and less intimidating and <em>helps </em>you, rather than hinders you, in speaking a language.</p>
<p>When I get response comments listing how &#8220;impossibly&#8221; hard something I&#8217;m trying is, I&#8217;m going to simply link to this post in future because that person is focussing on the negative. They are &#8220;right&#8221;, but unless they are giving me a way around the problem they aren&#8217;t helpful so I will simply ignore what they&#8217;ve said or pick out the actual &#8220;fact&#8221; (level of difficulty is pure opinion) and analyse it until I see how easy it can be.</p>
<p>From hundreds of conversations, I&#8217;m sure that this is one of the most crucial things I&#8217;ve picked up over the last 7 years that makes me &#8220;different&#8221; from the average frustrated learner. But attitude is in your head; you don&#8217;t need to pay for an expensive course or travel to the other side of the planet to change it. You need to remind yourself how easy it is until you really believe it. When you come to something &#8220;hard&#8221;, just repeat your mantra of <em>this is easy</em> over and over again, or do whatever it takes for you to change your negative way of looking at it.</p>
<p>With a positive attitude, your project becomes <em>more fun </em>and <em>easier </em>simply because you tell yourself it is and if &#8220;empty words&#8221; don&#8217;t help, find new approaches to learning that language (or achieving any goal) until you find a better method that does indeed make things &#8220;easier&#8221; for you. Where there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that bad, come on! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>I got an amazing 22,000 visits in the last 2 days through <a href="http://irishpolyglot.stumbleupon.com/" target="_blank">stumbleupon</a> on my post about <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">learning any phonetic script</a> in a few hours! It makes me really happy when my work is read by a lot of people, so please remember if you liked this (or any) post, to give it a stumble thumbs-up, or to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fluentin3months.com%2Fis-your-language-half-full%2F&amp;t=Is%20your%20language%20half%20full%3F" target="_blank">share the link on facebook</a> or twitter <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hopefully next week I should have the next update on my next milestone in Thai (and <em>possibly </em>a video update or two!)- at the moment I&#8217;m on <em>Phi Phi </em>island and very much enjoying it, and to make things better I&#8217;m with hanging out with other bloggers (and generally cool people) like <a href="http://shesinlovewiththeworld.com/" target="_blank">Sarah Lipman</a>, <a href="http://www.seanogle.com/" target="_blank">Sean Ogle</a> and <a href="http://www.tropicalmba.com/" target="_blank">Dan Andrews</a>, so I&#8217;ll stay here several days to enjoy the beautiful scenery and the company of some cool fellow travellers before moving on.</p>
<p>I hope people agree with me that a bad attitude will definitely slow you down in <em>any </em>project. So let me ask you something, is your language half full or half empty? <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p><em>Travel update: no language tips in this (long) post!</em></p>
<p>After travelling for about 7 years already, I thought I was immune to surprises, shocks and general wide-eyed <em>awe</em>.</p>
<p>And then I came to Thailand!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing I can say about Thailand that hasn&#8217;t already been blogged, Lonely Planeted, Documentary Channelled, photographed or twittered a million times already. This country is on pretty much every <em>RTW </em>ticket and gap-year itinerary and is usually among the first countries that travellers end up in.</p>
<p>However, what is slightly different for me compared to other <a id="aptureLink_Kd6Twnstgj" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand"><em>Siam</em></a> first-timers, is <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">my mission</a> to speak Thai in just 8 weeks (so far it&#8217;s going according to plan) and the fact that I have more travel behind me than most of my fellow temporary <em>farangs</em> here (however, I&#8217;ve already met a couple of people here who could see my travel years and raise me&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p><em>Travel update: no language tips in this (long) post!</em></p>
<p>After travelling for about 7 years already, I thought I was immune to surprises, shocks and general wide-eyed <em>awe</em>.</p>
<p>And then I came to Thailand!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing I can say about Thailand that hasn&#8217;t already been blogged, Lonely Planeted, Documentary Channelled, photographed or twittered a million times already. This country is on pretty much every <em>RTW </em>ticket and gap-year itinerary and is usually among the first countries that travellers end up in.</p>
<p>However, what is slightly different for me compared to other <a id="aptureLink_Kd6Twnstgj" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand"><em>Siam</em></a> first-timers, is <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">my mission</a> to speak Thai in just 8 weeks (so far it&#8217;s going according to plan) and the fact that I have more travel behind me than most of my fellow temporary <em>farangs</em> here (however, I&#8217;ve already met a couple of people here who could see my travel years and raise me 10+). So to be totally honest I&#8217;ve had no strong feeling of culture shock here and have been comfortable and confident in finding my way around.</p>
<p>Having said that, there are quite a few things that have stood out for me in these two weeks:</p>
<h2>Thai massages</h2>
<p>I took a brief training course in India in <a id="aptureLink_FsmdcHI0nv" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda"><em>Ayurvedic </em>massage</a>, and that was my first true exposure to proper massage techniques. I both gave and received enough massages to get the general gist of how they worked, and presumed that other international versions were just massaging different parts of the body in slightly different ways.</p>
<p>This is <em>not </em>how I&#8217;d describe Thai massage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more like your legs and arms getting pounded, squeezed, poked and squashed, then a standard nice back/head massage, and then pre-football-training aerobic stretching applied to a limp puppet&#8230; in a good way.</p>
<p>Before I even attempt to take a course, I&#8217;ve been getting as many massages as possible (<em>hard life</em>, I know) usually for about 200 Baht (€4/$6) for an hour. And I still have no idea how to summarise them because each one I&#8217;ve gotten has been completely different; ranging from excruciatingly painful by a distracted gobshite not even looking at what he&#8217;s doing, who seemed to prefer massaging nerves rather than muscles, to an absolutely relaxing experience that made me feel great for hours afterwards.</p>
<p>To those who haven&#8217;t tried, I&#8217;d highly recommend one, but get a location recommendation beforehand. I&#8217;m just randomly picking places and regretting it about half the time.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1514" title="mass" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mass.jpg" alt="" width="159" height="50" />And if you are a single guy, you have an entirely different problem on your hands. Then again it&#8217;s hardly a problem for many; the famous &#8220;happy ending&#8221; <em>extra</em> that they offer you in <em>less professional</em> parlours.</p>
<p>My random stumblings of course brought me to one of these so far (there&#8217;s a lot) and I had the rather amusing task of <em>politely turning down </em>a massage to the one part of me that she &#8220;missed&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been in way more awkward situations than this one before, and was very much psychologically prepared for this by the many stories told to me by some more&#8230; &#8220;eager&#8221; friends of mine who&#8217;ve travelled to Thailand. So to be totally honest I found her clumsy &#8220;accidents&#8221; of brushing against me in the wrong places (to get me excited) to be just silly. I put a stop to it before she got carried away.</p>
<h2>The land of smiles?</h2>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong; I find the Thais to be <em>exceptionally </em>friendly and I am really looking forward to getting to know them better through their language.</p>
<p>But Thailand&#8217;s claim to its subtitle has escaped me. If you compare it to places where workdrones tend to walk around with surely expressions on their face, like some major cities in Europe, then sure, they smile more.</p>
<p>I just do not understand why it&#8217;s <em>&#8220;the&#8221; land of smiles</em> based on what I&#8217;ve seen in comparison to other places. <strong>Brazilians smile way more</strong> than what I&#8217;ve seen here for example. Maybe the citylife/touristy nature of Bangkok and Patong have jaded the locals and I&#8217;ll see way more cheeriness if I go off the beaten track, (in fact, I&#8217;m starting to see more smiles now that I&#8217;m in a quieter, but still a touristy beach at Karon) but excluding populated areas isn&#8217;t much of a <em>land.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that it <em>isn&#8217;t </em>a land of smiles, I just find it pretty much the same level of positivity that I&#8217;ve seen in several other cultures. I&#8217;d call Thailand <em>a </em>land of smiles rather than <em>the </em>land of smiles&#8230;</p>
<h2>Affordable luxury</h2>
<p>My first week in Bangkok was fun <strong>after</strong> I got off Kao San road. That&#8217;s a great centre of gravity for backpackers, but if you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">don&#8217;t drink</a> you might get bored of it quickly. I don&#8217;t think I can call myself a backpacker any more; I did that for many years, but now I have a different style of travelling (and I even ditched my 6th backpack and now travel with a suitcase; more on why this has simplified things for me another time).</p>
<p>I moved into my first ever 4 star hotel (by choice; I&#8217;ve stayed in hotels a few times before in the past for just one night and only out of lack of cheaper options) by a metro stop (สถานีเพชรบุรี/Petchaburi).</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1515" title="hotel" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/hotel.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="300" />I was happy to spend a few days there; for just over 1,000 Baht (about €25/$35) I had a king sized bed, a huge modern room (serviced and made up every day), fridge, TV, great ensuite bathroom, air conditioning (it&#8217;s around 32ºC in Bangkok in the streets these days), very secure, huge filling breakfast included and <em>wifi and a working desk</em>. The last two are the reason I was paying &#8220;so much&#8221; (I need to be able to work wherever I go). You can actually easily get a room to yourself for 3 times less than that and still have lots of luxuries, but for the short term I was happy with what I had; especially since I was right by a metro.</p>
<p>Paying that daily isn&#8217;t realistic for the long term; I&#8217;m hoping to find a Bungalow somewhere soon and pay rent per week/month rather than per day to significantly reduce the cost. But I still felt like pampering myself a bit, and €25 is the price of a bunkbed in a hostel in some major European cities&#8230; I&#8217;m just not used to &#8220;affordable&#8221; luxury, so I&#8217;m trying it out <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, based on how much other tourists complain about insignificant things in hotels compared to those in budget accommodation, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d travel hotels all the time, even if I <em>could </em>afford it. Too much luxury would make you have unrealistic standards for everywhere you go and seemingly turn you into a whiny crybaby, which I&#8217;d rather avoid!</p>
<h2>Location independent = Location unsure</h2>
<p>I&#8217;m sending this post from <a id="aptureLink_QijlNGdLG3" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karon%20Beach">Karon</a> , a medium sized touristy town on <a id="aptureLink_dRsKppZfSs" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phuket%20Island"><em>Phuket </em>island</a> (pronounced <em>poo-get</em> despite what the not-very-useful romanisation tells you). I had no particular itinerary when I got here, and I still haven&#8217;t a clue where I&#8217;ll be in two days time.</p>
<p>The problem is <em>where </em>will I find that Bungalow? I asked online forums, fellow travellers, Thailand experts and friends about <em>where to go </em>weeks before coming here and all the time since I got here. Asking that question will give you a list of pretty much every destination in Thailand if you ask it enough times. It depends on too many factors. Some people like the neon lights with nightlife all week, some like laid back, for some a breathtaking paradise view is essential, others like adventure and others still have their favourite village with no other Europeans around for miles.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly need any of these. I&#8217;m not on the hunt for some lost paradise (it&#8217;s actually funny how many people on online Thailand forums ask for the name of a &#8220;secluded paradise with no tourists&#8221;, not realising that publishing its name online <em>to a tourist </em>kind of defeats the purpose), or some false sense of authenticity in a mere 8 week stay. I am well aware of the fact that I&#8217;m a <em>tourist</em> here; a forbidden word among a lot of superior backpackers who <em>know better</em>.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ll likely be back to Thailand again in future, I am devoting most of this trip to  look around to find a place <em>that I like</em>. Simple as that.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s hard to put what I&#8217;m looking for into words (trust me, I&#8217;ve tried!) &#8211; I do actually like a wee bit of home (i.e. Europe) around so I don&#8217;t feel homesick; Italian restaurants, crêpe stalls, some other travellers, things available to those who can afford it like day trips, windsurfing/massage etc. lessons. So yes, I do actually want to go to a &#8220;touristy&#8221; town. Most of these are based on the beach, so that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m covering coastal areas right now, but I don&#8217;t actually need the beach for anything more than a nice morning jog on the sand. I&#8217;m not here to work on my tan.</p>
<p>I could totally see myself in Bangkok, since it has everything I could possibly want in a city&#8230; but when you see so many people wearing face masks to protect themselves from the pollution from the city&#8217;s incredible amount of traffic, it makes you think twice about a medium-term stay if you are asthmatic. A lot of people warned me that Bangkok was <em>chaotic</em>, but I find it nothing of the sort. The road traffic is horrible, but the public transport on the skytrain and metro are very clean modern and cheap, and even the Chao Phraya express through the river and the canal boats get you to most other destinations.</p>
<p>I moved on to Patong for the weekend and there was a little <em>too much </em>going on for my tastes. Neon lights and constant reminders of sex tourism is not my scene. <em>Karon </em>is a slight improvement over Patong, but still doesn&#8217;t strike me as a place that would suit me to stick around long in.</p>
<h2>Vague itinerary for next weeks</h2>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll spend a night in Phuket town Tuesday before heading to Phi Phi. It seems just bouncing around is the thing you have to do, if you want to find which island/beach/town is best for you! I&#8217;ve got momentum behind me, so even if I find my perfect spot soon I might still move on to get some places I had wanted to see (Krabi &amp; Ko Samui) off my checklist, so I can relax in one place for my last weeks and know where to go directly to, next time.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1518" title="sunset" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/sunset.jpg" alt="" width="267" height="200" />If I move fast enough, I might make it to Ko Phangan for the famous full moon party (30th), but I&#8217;d hate to skip places just to be there on time, since it&#8217;s on the other side of this stretch of Thailand. So if I miss it, I&#8217;ll catch it on my next Thailand trip. The next one (Mar 1st) is too close to my flight out.</p>
<p>So it looks like I&#8217;ll have to hop around for a few weeks. Even if I only find my ideal spot on the last day before going back to Bangkok to fly out, I&#8217;ll still be happy, knowing that it&#8217;s there for next time.</p>
<p>I did the same in Goa in India and travelled for several weeks before settling down (for a month). I hated the north and didn&#8217;t get along with other travellers there (minimalistic drugged out yoga retreaters <em>vs</em> non-drinking non-smoking yuppie language nerd travelling with enough technology to make the starship Enterprise look like a lightbulb&#8230; is not a good mix) but then I found a place I was happy to settle in, in the south; <a id="aptureLink_IJOLUm3is5" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palolem%20Beach#The_beach">Palolem</a>. I&#8217;d like to find my Palolem in Thailand!</p>
<p>Note that <em>not </em>going somewhere touristy will have little influence on the speak-Thai-in-8-weeks mission. I don&#8217;t need to go to a village; I can learn (and have learned) languages in touristy places and I&#8217;d just get bored in a town with little to do when I&#8217;m not working. I&#8217;ll have to devote a whole post to this some time because a lot of people seem to think immersion is only possible in villages off the beaten track and I disagree. If you especially like villages then that&#8217;s an excellent reason to spend time in one. I don&#8217;t.</p>
<h2>Things I&#8217;ve never seen before here</h2>
<p>To end the post (sorry for the length), I&#8217;ll give a random list of things I&#8217;ve come across that I&#8217;ve never seen at home or in my other travels before:</p>
<ul>
<li>the <em>wai </em>- the Thai greeting of putting your palms together and bowing slightly. I really like it! I do it to everyone before talking to them, and I will definitely miss it when I get back to Europe. As you can see in the photo above, even Ronald McDonald does it</li>
<li><em>Casual sales of firearms.</em> This is new to me; in broad daylight in a mall in Patong and in a flea market in Bangkok I&#8217;ve been very openly approached by the Thai smile and presented a &#8220;menu&#8221; with various hand guns and rifles that I can buy (free bullets included!) Usually you have to go underground if you want a gun. I don&#8217;t particularly like this &#8220;freedom&#8221; to be honest, but I presume Thai laws about firearms are much less strict than in the west.</li>
<li><em>Fakes</em>. Rolexes, Calvin Klein underwear, etc. I&#8217;ve seen lots of fakes elsewhere, but not this vast amount of them for sale everywhere tourists are. I think I&#8217;m the only one here with <em>actual </em>Havaiana flip-flops. The price for the fake ones are the same as the price for real ones if you buy them in Brazil&#8230;</li>
<li><em>Go go bar</em>s. One visit was enough to satisfy my curiosity, and I won&#8217;t say what happens in there since I know I have some young readers!</li>
<li><em>Thais&#8217; level of English in the tourist industry</em>. Apart from India (where English is a &#8217;subsidiary official language&#8217;), I&#8217;ve only ever been in Europe and the Americas. In Thailand I&#8217;ve only been in very touristy places so far and I find people&#8217;s level of English to be quite low. This is not something I&#8217;m complaining about, since I&#8217;m here specifically to learn Thai. But it&#8217;s new to me when dealing with people used to tourists (I&#8217;m not talking about random people in the street). It has been frustrating having my orders in restaurants messed up or taxis taking me to the wrong places, despite the fact that I&#8217;m sure I have extremely easy to understand English compared to many other natives. But this is just further motivation to continue working on my Thai so I can soon explain it to them in their own language. In what I&#8217;ve learned from Thai I can see why European languages would be quite hard for them, especially when it comes to grammar. People have been very happy to hear the little I have already (I&#8217;m still working on the theory behind tones and their use in the writing system before I open the floodgates of conversation!) although that reaction is the same in other places with other languages.<img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1519" title="glass" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/glass-225x300.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></li>
<li><em>Hotel cards</em>. I&#8217;m not a regular frequenter of hotels, so I don&#8217;t know if this is international, but the hotels I&#8217;ve been in have cards to open the door that you also insert into a slot inside to activate the power. Since you need the card to get back in, you take it with you and the room is not powered while you are gone. I find this to be a very very clever idea for conserving energy (since there will obviously be forgetful clients who don&#8217;t turn off lights or leave the A/C running while they are out).</li>
<li>The glass in the picture on the right. I asked for a non-alcoholic cocktail (or <em>mocktail</em> as I like to call it), since someone just clicked the link on the site to treat me to one! I had a great laugh at the container it was served in!</li>
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<p>Sorry for the very long post. If you made it to the end, congratulations!</p>
<p>In the next post I&#8217;ll get back to language learning suggestions, but getting used to a new country is part of the adventure and perhaps a few of you might have been curious to hear how that aspect was going for me this time!</p>
<p>I hope nobody takes offence to anything I&#8217;ve written here, I&#8217;m just thinking aloud and sharing with those curious. Feel free to explain things to me that I&#8217;ve misunderstood or share your thoughts on Thailand in the comments! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<h2>Preface</h2>
<p><em>Na&#8217;vi is the language spoken by the fictional aliens in the currently very popular movie </em><a id="aptureLink_6xpmdRoCoT" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_JBMrrYw8">Avatar</a><em>. Even though it&#8217;s &#8220;just a movie&#8221;, Na&#8217;vi is an &#8220;actual&#8221; (constructed) language. It has vocabulary and grammar and was developed by linguist </em><a id="aptureLink_LsNag4lLPL" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul%20Frommer">Paul Frommer</a><em>. He&#8217;s hoping it will become the new &#8220;</em><a id="aptureLink_XELmfeYCOv" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon%20language">Klingon</a><em>&#8221; of movie languages.<br />
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<p><em>Since the whole point of this blog is to show you that any language can be learned very quickly, I am taking it a step further today and claiming that even an alien language can be learned in no time if you have the right approach and attitude (presuming we are physiologically capable of pronouncing the words, which luckily we are for Na&#8217;vi!!) </em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;ll be simplifying and clarifying the information on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navi_language" target="_blank">Wikipedia article about Na&#8217;vi</a>, and re-stating it and filtering it for non-linguists. </em><em>After studying the article and related links for</em>&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<h2>Preface</h2>
<p><em>Na&#8217;vi is the language spoken by the fictional aliens in the currently very popular movie </em><a id="aptureLink_6xpmdRoCoT" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1_JBMrrYw8">Avatar</a><em>. Even though it&#8217;s &#8220;just a movie&#8221;, Na&#8217;vi is an &#8220;actual&#8221; (constructed) language. It has vocabulary and grammar and was developed by linguist </em><a id="aptureLink_LsNag4lLPL" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul%20Frommer">Paul Frommer</a><em>. He&#8217;s hoping it will become the new &#8220;</em><a id="aptureLink_XELmfeYCOv" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon%20language">Klingon</a><em>&#8221; of movie languages.<br />
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<p><em>Since the whole point of this blog is to show you that any language can be learned very quickly, I am taking it a step further today and claiming that even an alien language can be learned in no time if you have the right approach and attitude (presuming we are physiologically capable of pronouncing the words, which luckily we are for Na&#8217;vi!!) </em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;ll be simplifying and clarifying the information on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navi_language" target="_blank">Wikipedia article about Na&#8217;vi</a>, and re-stating it and filtering it for non-linguists. </em><em>After studying the article and related links for just an hour, I watched the movie a second time and actually did understand several things being said without relying on the subtitles! </em></p>
<p><em>For the rest of this article I will presume that you are ready to enter your Avatar and join the </em>Omaticaya <em>clan on the life-sustaining moon deep in space known as <strong>Pandora</strong></em>.</p>
<h2>Na&#8217;vi for dummies</h2>
<p>So, you&#8217;ve decided to move to Pandora! If you are among the lucky few that has had their genome sequenced and combined with the <em>Na&#8217;vi </em>natives so that you can become a &#8220;driver&#8221; of this amazing 3m tall blue humanoid and live in the forest among the Na&#8217;vi tribe for the rest of your life, good for you!</p>
<p>However, to really get the best out of your experience, don&#8217;t be a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-the-transition-from-typical-english-speaking-tourist-to-local-language-speaking-expat/">typical English-speaking skyperson</a>! You should learn the <em>Na&#8217;vi language</em>. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s true that some Na&#8217;vi in the Omaticaya tribe have already learned some English, but to really immerse yourself in that world you absolutely must learn their language! At first, some of them may prefer to talk to you in English, since the Na&#8217;vi get frustrated easily, but <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-convince-natives-to-speak-to-you-in-their-language/">there are ways to convince them</a> to always talk to you in their beautiful language!</p>
<p>In this article I&#8217;ll give you some tips on how to look at the language, and how to start learning it, to greater improve your chances of eventually becoming a <em>man </em>or a <em>woman </em>in the second birth ritual and become truly accepted by <em>the people</em>.</p>
<p>They may be a primitive tribe with limited technological capabilities, but don&#8217;t let that fool you into thinking the language will be easy! It has a very complex grammar system, including case declensions (genetive, dative etc.), and an entirely new set of vocabulary to learn! But don&#8217;t worry, if you start learning this language with the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/starting-to-learn-a-language-with-the-right-attitude/">right attitude</a>, you can master it very quickly!!</p>
<h2>Even a complex language can be easy!</h2>
<p>If you look at <em>Na&#8217;vi </em>from the right perspective, you won&#8217;t get discouraged by it&#8217;s grammar and vocabulary. My research tells me that the case declensions are <em>extremely consistent</em>. I found Czech&#8217;s 7 cases were <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">not that bad</a> once you see the patterns, and Na&#8217;vi has much simpler patterns that you&#8217;ll master very quickly!</p>
<p>To give one example; the accusative only has 3 possibilities: <em>-it, -t, -ti</em> and these only change depending on the letters surrounding them in consistent ways. So, if you wanted to say a nice typical beginner phrase like &#8220;Let my spear strike the heart&#8221;, heart is in the <em>accusative </em>case. Heart is <em>txe’lan, </em>but in the accusative it becomes <em>txe’lanit<em>. </em></em>So the entire phrase would be &#8220;<em>Oeyä tukrul txe&#8217;lanit tivakuk<em>&#8220;.</em></em></p>
<p>Now, I know some of you may be quite intimidated by a strange looking phrase like that, but don&#8217;t worry! It will all come naturally very quickly <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Since the <em>Na&#8217;vi </em><strong>haven&#8217;t developed writing systems yet, </strong>you are very lucky that you do not need to learn how to read strange alien symbols (although even if you did, that would <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/phonetic-script-can-be-learned-quickly/">only take a few hours</a> if you did it right), and our earth linguists have devised a very straightforward way of reading and writing <em>Na&#8217;vi</em> using the Latin alphabet we all know and love!</p>
<p>You can actually read it pretty much as you would read English, with just some slight exceptions; for example, an <em>x </em>after a letter is not pronounced as in English, but represents an &#8220;<a id="aptureLink_yn5m2NoWoZ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejective%20consonant">ejective consonant</a>&#8221; for the preceding letter. For the early stages, all you need to do is have a <em>very slight </em>pause whenever you see this <em>x</em> and  you will be close enough! For example, if some clumsy child steps on your tail, you can say <em>skxáwng! </em>(moron/idiot!) as <em>sk&#8217;awng</em>. Easy isn&#8217;t it!</p>
<p>Na&#8217;vi isn&#8217;t a tonal language, so you can raise your voice and shout teasing exclamations at your <em>skxáwng </em>friend who can&#8217;t mount his <em>Pa&#8217;li </em>(horse), in the same tones as you would in English! Although it&#8217;s also important to learn that in Na&#8217;vi we use an infix syllable to represent the attitude of the speaker (positive, negative or formal).</p>
<p>A useful example of this is <em>Oél ngáti kámeie, </em>which is of course the famous and beautiful greeting &#8220;<strong>I see you</strong>&#8220;. &#8220;<em>Káme&#8221; </em>is to &#8220;see&#8221; (not a direct translation, but deeper, since you also see <em>into/</em>understand<em> </em>a person), so when you greet someone, you are obviously glad to see them, so you add the positive attitude affix <em>ei</em> to give the word <em>kámeie</em>. You can do this with all verbs; after a short time you get used to it and wonder why we don&#8217;t do it in English!</p>
<p>As far as vocabulary goes, you can use <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/">image based memory techniques</a> to learn many words very quickly! You&#8217;ll also be glad to hear that Na&#8217;vi can borrow foreign words, so <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thousands-of-words-instantly/">you already speak</a> some before starting! For example <em>kunsìp</em> is &#8220;gunship&#8221; and <em>toktor</em> is &#8220;doctor&#8221;. And you thought this was going to be hard!</p>
<h2>Similarity to Earthly languages</h2>
<p>The good news for those of you who already speak languages is that you will have given yourself a head start over monolingual English speakers! Here are a few examples of commonalities:</p>
<p><strong>ESPERANTO</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>This can also use the <em>x</em> writing system, for altering the previous consonant, however it&#8217;s only necessary on unconfigured computers. So cxu, and sxtatas are actually ways of writing ĉu and ŝatas (pronounced chu &amp; shatas respectively). This certainly helped me to see past the &#8216;x&#8217; as an unpronounced letter at first.</li>
<li>Word order is completely flexible! This is great news for those of you sick with remembering if you have to put the verb at the end or not in hard Earth languages. Since Na&#8217;vi uses cases (like the Accusative mentioned above), you can pretty much put your words in any order you like and it will be a fully correct sentence (as in Esperanto)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>THAI/PORTUGUESE/FRENCH</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Although the grammar is more complex than Asian languages, if you speak Thai (or Portuguese/French) you have one of the few sounds difficult to some English speakers already. The nasal sound (ã in Portuguese, on in French, ง in Thai) is very common in Na&#8217;vi and can start sentences, unlike in English. Those speaking those languages, especially Thai, will be better equipped to start words with this sound. This is written as &#8220;ng&#8221; (and as the sound we have in words like <em>sing</em>), but starts words like &#8220;nga&#8221; (you), which can be used in a phrase like <em>Txo new nga rivey, oehu! </em>(Come with me if you want to live!), always a nice icebreaker when meeting a stranger being charged at by a <em>Angtsìk</em> (rhino-like beast).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>IRISH/GERMAN/GREEK/SLAVIC and many other languages</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>It may take some getting used to for those unfamiliar with cases like the Genetive, but those who have learned languages that use them will be in for a treat! As I mentioned above, the rules for applying them are much more consistent and simpler and it is believed that they have no exceptions, unlike Earth-based equivalents. You never have to learn a new word, you just have to apply the common affix to the word.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>SPANISH/ITALIAN/Other romance languages</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Double negatives! You never have nothing to fear when you don&#8217;t have no time to not go nowhere to not learn no double negatives!! If you speak these languages you are already familiar with them! So <em>fiketuwong ke nayume ke&#8217;u</em> is <em>This alien will learn nothing </em>(ke is <em>not </em>and <em>ke&#8217;u </em>is <em>nothing</em>).</li>
</ul>
<h2>Other important tips</h2>
<p>The &#8216;r&#8217; in Na&#8217;vi is rolled, so you should work on that as well as generally getting rid of your <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/getting-rid-of-your-english-accent/">English accent</a>.</p>
<p>Even though lots of Na&#8217;vi speak English, you should try to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">stop speaking English</a> as soon as possible, or you may never improve your level. This would lead to you never being accepted among the people, since chants in Na&#8217;vi are necessary for rituals such as giving thanks to Eywa for the body of an animal you just hunted (although I&#8217;m a vegetarian, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travelling-vegetarian/">I have ways</a> to convince this other culture to accept my alien eating habits!)</p>
<p>Make sure you have a good <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">plan of action</a> for learning the language, and you will easily achieve <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/defining-fluency-to-achieve-fluency/">fluency</a> in no time! Don&#8217;t get too daunted by the huge task ahead of you; have <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/mini-goals-are-the-path-to-achieving-fluency/">mini-goals</a> to be proud of your achievements and you will be confused for a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">native</a> in no time!</p>
<p>Make sure to leave comments to give other tips to those wanting to learn this language, or share your story of your dreams of being a permanent resident of Pandora. When you learn a foreign language you are always one step closer to your travel dreams <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <em>Iráyo (</em>thank you) for reading!</p>
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<p><em>Welcome to everyone coming here from <strong><a href="http://zenhabits.net/2010/02/ace-exams/" target="_blank">Zenhabits</a> </strong>- this post has also received over 50,000 stumbles! </em><em></em></p>
<p><em>If you liked my association technique mentioned below, you would also enjoy my tips on using imagination to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/" target="_blank">memorize vocabulary</a>. See the <strong>most popular </strong>posts on the right for other interesting topics.<br />
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<p><em>This blog is about my language learning tips, for becoming fluent quickly in any language. <strong>Anyone </strong>can apply them &#8211; so don&#8217;t forget to subscribe (on the right) and look around the site for any other articles you may find useful. Thanks a lot for stopping by!!</em></p>
<p><em>For those curious, this post discusses Thai, but the ideas can equally be applied to other phonetic scripts such as<strong> Japanese</strong> (but not as well for Chinese).<br />
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<p>Just one week into <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">the challenge of reading/speaking Thai in 8 weeks</a> (actually only about 5 hours total, since&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p><em>If you liked my association technique mentioned below, you would also enjoy my tips on using imagination to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/" target="_blank">memorize vocabulary</a>. See the <strong>most popular </strong>posts on the right for other interesting topics.<br />
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<p><em>This blog is about my language learning tips, for becoming fluent quickly in any language. <strong>Anyone </strong>can apply them &#8211; so don&#8217;t forget to subscribe (on the right) and look around the site for any other articles you may find useful. Thanks a lot for stopping by!!</em></p>
<p><em>For those curious, this post discusses Thai, but the ideas can equally be applied to other phonetic scripts such as<strong> Japanese</strong> (but not as well for Chinese).<br />
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<p>Just one week into <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thai-in-8-weeks-mission/">the challenge of reading/speaking Thai in 8 weeks</a> (actually only about 5 hours total, since I&#8217;ve been quite busy since I arrived, but I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/">made time</a> to learn on the skytrain/in restaurants/taxis etc.) and I&#8217;ve reached the first major milestone already.</p>
<p>I can read Thai.</p>
<p>The major thing still missing is tones, which admittedly are an extremely important part of this language that cannot be ignored and I will get to shortly (<em>Edit: Done! Thai tone rules <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/reading-thai-tones-is-easy/">aren&#8217;t that bad</a></em> <em>either</em>), but in terms of phonetics I no longer need to rely on <em>romanisation</em> (using the Latin alphabet to see how a Thai word is pronounced).</p>
<p>Based on recommendations from other learners, abandoning romanisation was a huge priority for me; I didn&#8217;t want to use that system as a crutch preventing me from having a more natural way of learning Thai <em>from within</em> the language. Romanisation is a purely academic concept for Thai. Interesting for studying the language, but not so great when you actually want to read it. I don&#8217;t <em>study</em> languages, I learn them and speak them. I needed to abandon romanisation quickly.</p>
<p>It was actually way easier than I expected.</p>
<h2>From squiggly symbols to new letters</h2>
<p>When first looking at Thai it reminded me of the language Frodo read inside the ring he threw into the volcano:</p>
<p><strong>เดอะลอร์ดออฟเดอะริงส์</strong> เป็น<span class="mw-redirect">นิยายแฟนตาซี</span>ขนาดยาว ประพันธ์โดยศาสตราจารย์ชาวอังกฤษ เจ. อาร์. อาร์. โทลคีน เป็นนิยายที่ต่อเนื่องกับนิยายชุดก่อนหน้านี้ของโทลคีน คือ</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mess of incomprehensible symbols that would take possibly <em>years </em>to get your head around, right?</p>
<p>This is exactly the attitude that seems to hold everyone back. I can tell by talking to those who have given up on learning languages that they just see each aspect of a &#8220;hard&#8221; language as this insurmountable monster. The reason for my success in languages has little to do with natural talent and <em>a lot </em>to do <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">with attitude</a>, especially in <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/starting-to-learn-a-language-with-the-right-attitude/">the early stages</a>.</p>
<p>When you look at the letters as &#8217;squiggly symbols&#8217; it&#8217;s very hard to imagine them <em>worming </em>their way into your head. How could you possibly even remember what each symbol means? <em>Is months or years of practice the only way?</em></p>
<p>I threw out this unhelpful concept immediately.</p>
<h2>The technique used &#8211; image association</h2>
<p>With a bit of imagination (in the same style used for <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/">learning vocabulary</a>) you can very quickly associate each symbol with its corresponding sound.</p>
<p>There are 44 consonants, 15 vowels (which combine into about 28 forms) plus 4 tone marks, so let&#8217;s say there&#8217;s a total of about 75 &#8220;symbols&#8221; to learn. If you use a good memory technique and devote an entire minute or two to each symbol, that&#8217;s just about two hours to learn the entire set. Add in extra time for practising and testing yourself and it really isn&#8217;t that much time, especially since there are patterns in some symbols you start to see that reduces the work for others.</p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t used to image association, then the first few will take more time but you&#8217;ll get the hang of it (you were certainly imaginative as a child, it will come back to you!) and the rest will come much quicker.</p>
<p>In my research since arrival (and thanks to commenters on this blog) I&#8217;ve come across <a href="http://stujay.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Stuart Jay Ray</a>; another <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-become-a-polyglot/">polyglot</a> who has had many many more achievements with languages than I have. What most interested me is <a href="http://stujay.blogspot.com/2009/06/cracking-thai-fundamentals-video-clips.html" target="_blank">two short videos</a> he made about remembering Thai vowels. After watching them, I applied his suggestion and think immediately of &#8220;ah&#8221; when I see:</p>
<h2><big><big>า</big></big></h2>
<p>His amusing suggestion is to imagine the path taken by your pee as you relieve yourself against a tree, and the sigh you&#8217;d make as you do it &#8211; more relevant for men of course!</p>
<p>His other suggestions were also very useful, and I&#8217;ve applied the same concept to consonants myself. For example when I saw</p>
<h2>ท</h2>
<p>and needed to associate it with &#8216;t&#8217;, I thought of a number of common words starting with <em>t</em>. None of the first few looked anything like it, but then I got to <em>toe</em>! The symbol looks pretty much like your big toe, with the circle representing the nail of the second toe (if looking at your left foot). It&#8217;s very easy to remember and very hard to forget! Now I think of <em>t </em>instantly when I see that symbol.</p>
<p>It took time, but I&#8217;ve come up with such an association for all symbols. Some are funny, or nerdy, or related to sex, or something childish. Some require a ridiculous stretch of the imagination to make it work. Whatever did the job best to help me remember.</p>
<h2>Practice makes perfect</h2>
<p>Learning with image association is <em>way more fun </em>than pure repetition, but it still slows you down as you try to recall the association. With very little practice it comes quicker and quicker and soon you can skip the association altogether as the sound comes naturally and quickly. About half of the symbols are like this for me already (such as the two mentioned above), and I no longer need to remember the association. In my mind <big><big>า </big></big>is ah and ท is <em>t</em>. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>Here in Bangkok, many signs are &#8220;bilingual&#8221; Thai + romanisation. This can be extremely useful to learners of the language, and not just tourists who don&#8217;t speak Thai. When it is a translated word like <em>hospital</em> you can use this to learn vocabulary, but this is not currently what I&#8217;m focussed on.</p>
<p>Instead, I look at untranslated words (names of places etc.) and see if I can pronounce it based on the Thai. I do this with advertisements, road signs, notices inside a taxi etc. and all of this practice is giving me an idea of how to read the language. The romanisation used by the Thai government does not help at all with tones, but it does help with confirming and checking pronunciation; the focus for my first week.</p>
<h2>Challenges</h2>
<p>One thing I never even thought about, which confuses matters somewhat, is <em>fonts</em>. You never even think of this when learning other languages that use the Latin alphabet, since fonts work the same for them as in English. But there are completely different ways of writing a letter in formal announcements, casual advertisements/magazines, LED displays, handwriting, and within each one there are subsets of fonts or styles (e.g. <em>a </em>versus a are quite different if you really look at them).</p>
<p>This means that the symbol is not <em>exactly </em>as I remember it. I kept seeing an &#8220;S&#8221; for example when reading shop signs and couldn&#8217;t find it anywhere in my notes until I put two and two together and realized that it&#8217;s just the way that</p>
<h2>ร</h2>
<p>is rendered in that font.</p>
<p>Another issue is separating words; finding out where one word ends and another begins is a challenge since there are no spaces, but it is still doable, as the order of vowels before or after consonants is consistent, so you know which one it is associated with. Thai is extremely phonetic (with a few exceptions), so reading it left to right as you see the symbols really isn&#8217;t that bad.</p>
<h2>The road ahead</h2>
<p>I have started learning some basic vocabulary <em>entirely through the Thai writing system </em>with no romanisation. i.e. <em>to speak </em>is พูด for me and it&#8217;s clear how this is pronounced without referring to romanisation. This will be important in how I continue to learn the language.</p>
<p>There are some surprises still incorporated in the writing so I definitely can&#8217;t read <em>perfectly</em> yet, but I&#8217;ll continue to practise as I go on with other aspects of the language. Something I&#8217;ve said a few times this week to people is that I do <em>not </em>aim for perfection. Reading &#8220;pretty well&#8221; is quite alright for me, even if there are several holes in it. The rest will come as I progress with the rest of the language. I don&#8217;t want to dwell on reading too much; for the moment &#8220;good enough&#8221; is enough!</p>
<p>This method could work just as well with <em>any </em>language that uses a phonetic writing system. (I&#8217;ll deal with languages like Chinese some other time)</p>
<p>Right now, I still am not speaking much Thai beyond basic courtesies; I feel that trying to do several things at once will slow me down a bit and result in me spreading myself too thin, so I am focussing on the building blocks that will take me to my objective. I can now start to learn some key vocabulary, specifically to words I am likely to use in day to day encounters. I&#8217;m using the <em>triage </em>system as always, to prioritise what I learn, so if it&#8217;s something I can point to or mime then I don&#8217;t need to learn the word yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m expecting to have an explosion of vocabulary and conversation when the time is right. Until then, I need to continue building the foundations to make sure that that <em>can </em>happen.</p>
<p>For the purposes of this mission, I will try to have <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/mini-goals-are-the-path-to-achieving-fluency/">mini-goals</a> that last for 1-2 weeks and the next couple of weeks will be focussed on <em>tones</em> and learning vocabulary through the writing system (both to practise it and to increase my communication ability). The tone part can be subdivided into being able to decipher from the text which tone is involved, saying the 5 tones correctly, and of course distinguishing them when others speak.</p>
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<p>In my next post, I may mention a little of what I generally think of Bangkok (<em>edit: that post <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/first-impressions-of-thailand/">is here</a></em>); my first window into Thai culture, before I fly to Phuket on Saturday.</p>
<p>However, very soon I want to talk about something that I feel holds many learners back from ever making progress; focussing on what they <em>don&#8217;t </em>know. I feel like this attitude may be the biggest block for learners to even get a good start on a language (and the greatest fuel for sceptics of my method) so I want to discuss it. (Edit: that post can be found <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/is-your-language-half-full/">here</a>:<em> Is your language half full?</em>)</p>
<p>So, for example, anyone who meets me over the next few weeks who speaks Thai to me or tests my spoken Thai will be greatly disappointed. I don&#8217;t care. I have a plan and I&#8217;m sticking to it. I know from experience that speaking doesn&#8217;t happen magically overnight, so not being able to have a casual chat in Thai for the next few weeks is not going to discourage me, since I&#8217;ll be working on making a structure out of my Thai and have a clear idea what I&#8217;m aiming for. When you have a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">well formulated plan</a>, you should <em>stick to it</em> and not give in to pressure to change from that course. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Any thoughts on how I&#8217;m going through with my challenge? Did you learn Thai&#8217;s (or another Asian language&#8217;s) script this way or was it completely different for you? What do you think my chances are of <em>speaking and reading Thai in 8 weeks</em>? Do share it with us in the comments and don&#8217;t forget to stumble this post or share it with your friends!! Thanks <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>In my travels I always try my best to speak a language <em>fluently </em>(<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">or better</a>), but sometimes this is not possible, since I may be only spending a few days in a country.</p>
<p>As well as this, you need to start <em>somewhere</em> if you want to eventually speak fluently, and &#8220;enough to get by&#8221; is how I like to start!</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;ve just spent the week around New Year&#8217;s in <em>Poland</em>. This was actually for an <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/">Esperanto event</a> (<a id="aptureLink_bmT1fFrBn7" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junulara%20Esperanto-Semajno">JES</a>), but to get from the airport at Krakow to Zakopane and to talk to everyone outside of the event, I needed to be able to get by in Polish, which is a language that I&#8217;ve never learned before.</p>
<p>Of course, nobody was waiting for me with a sign at the airport or held my hand at the train station and interpreted for me when I needed&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>In my travels I always try my best to speak a language <em>fluently </em>(<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">or better</a>), but sometimes this is not possible, since I may be only spending a few days in a country.</p>
<p>As well as this, you need to start <em>somewhere</em> if you want to eventually speak fluently, and &#8220;enough to get by&#8221; is how I like to start!</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;ve just spent the week around New Year&#8217;s in <em>Poland</em>. This was actually for an <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/having-fun-at-esperanto-events/">Esperanto event</a> (<a id="aptureLink_bmT1fFrBn7" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junulara%20Esperanto-Semajno">JES</a>), but to get from the airport at Krakow to Zakopane and to talk to everyone outside of the event, I needed to be able to get by in Polish, which is a language that I&#8217;ve never learned before.</p>
<p>Of course, nobody was waiting for me with a sign at the airport or held my hand at the train station and interpreted for me when I needed to find where I was staying. <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/do-you-need-to-be-rich-to-travel-the-world/">Non-rich travellers</a> have to take care of themselves, and this involves talking to locals outside of the tourist trade who may not speak English.</p>
<p>With just a few hours on the flight, I managed to learn enough Polish to <em>get by</em> and adequately communicate what I wanted to say for the basics of asking directions, getting the right train, and generally not being rude in forcing English on people who wouldn&#8217;t understand it (which turned out to be quite a lot where I was).</p>
<p>If you are in a similar situation with another language, you can try the following to make sure you learn exactly what you need for your short visit.</p>
<h2>Triage &#8211; priority on important words</h2>
<p>A hospital <a id="aptureLink_2HSeJ6PzTY" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage">triage</a> is where the sickest (or dying) patients are seen to first, and those with bloody noses and sprained ankles just have to wait. This is the same level of urgency you have to apply to what you&#8217;re learning when given a short time frame.</p>
<p>Because of this, you have to completely abandon grammar. <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/gender-issues/">Word genders</a>, correct <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/">use of cases</a>, etc. are almost <em>never</em> necessary for you to be understood. Grammar is the rules of tidying up a language to make it <em>correct</em>. Getting your point across does not require you to be correct.</p>
<p>If someone were to say in English &#8220;<em>Where bus station?&#8221;</em> or &#8220;<em>These seat number 4?</em>&#8220;, it may be incorrect and improper use of English, but the answerer will understand it &#8211; that&#8217;s all that really matters at this stage. The triage for learning enough to get by in a few hours requires priority to be given to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/">learning vocabulary</a>, and to be very restrictive in what you learn.</p>
<h2>Only learn the essentials</h2>
<p>There are too many situations you may come across to be able to cover all possible vocabulary, so the only things that are important to apply to memory are those that you&#8217;ll use most frequently and that are time sensitive (like &#8220;Help!&#8221;). Everything else, you can simply look up the word if you have a small dictionary or phrasebook in your pocket/purse, which you always should if possible.</p>
<p>The list of words and phrases I learn off for such a situation are quite limited: <em>Where</em> (not caring about is/are), <em>that</em> (for pointing and choosing), <em>yes</em>/<em>no</em>, <em>one</em>, <em>and</em>, <em>hello</em>, <em>goodbye, please, me, excuse me</em>, and very few other words are all you need to communicate yourself basically. Imaginative use of hand signals (or drawing pictures) and gestures are infinitely more useful.</p>
<p>Understanding the wording of their answer may not be necessary. I asked for directions several times in that trip in Poland and I didn&#8217;t understand a word of what they said, but hand gestures (at least in the west) are universal for such explanations and I could understand how many streets down (hand hops) to go and whether to go left or right (pointing).</p>
<h2>When you need to speak English, don&#8217;t say it in English</h2>
<p>Sometimes this isn&#8217;t enough and you really do need to speak to someone in English to get what you need.</p>
<p>As far as phrases go, &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand&#8221; and &#8220;Do you speak English?&#8221; are very important. I never actually say the English version of these; it can be quite rude to force English on someone without bracing them for it first, or asking politely. If they don&#8217;t speak English, they may just look at you confused when you start talking. Even &#8220;Do you speak English&#8221; might not be something they ever learned, or have long forgotten.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t speak English, but they understand that <em>you do</em> from your question, they usually produce a co-worker or smart teenage student that can talk to you. They will go to that trouble since you&#8217;ve gone to the trouble to say <em>something</em> in their language, and it&#8217;s usually appreciated, and they associate their language&#8217;s equivalent of the word <em>English</em> with that person, whereas they may not make the link when they hear you speak &#8220;noise&#8221;.</p>
<p>Whenever you do speak English, it must be slow and clear. I hear way too many native English speakers make themselves very difficult to understand to non-natives; a use of simpler vocabulary, clearly separating words and opening your mouth wide to exaggerate pronunciations when you talk works wonders. Repeating the same thing louder instead of rephrasing it with synonyms or different words just makes you look stupid and makes people like me roll our eyes at you.</p>
<h2>What to study?</h2>
<p>You can grab a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travel-phrasebooks-a-serious-language-learners-best-first-book-to-study/">phrasebook</a> in the airport duty-free to study. I actually prefer <em>Lonely Planet</em> phrasebooks as my first book to study in the long term with a language, but for the basics they actually cover way too many situations. The <em>Rough Guide</em> series is a little better for this situation since their dictionary at the back usually has  more words, and the amount of basic phrases at the start is actually enough to study on the flight over.</p>
<p>A pocket dictionary is not so useful because they usually use the international phonetic system, which I personally find very useful, but if you aren&#8217;t familiar with it, then you may pronounce the word too wrong to be understood. Good phrasebooks have English equivalent phonetics that help a lot. The phonetics are <em>all you need</em>, and you can ignore the original spelling (unless it&#8217;s for recognition, such as in signs like &#8220;exit&#8221;). Use memory techniques to help make it stick in your mind.</p>
<p>If you are more of an audible rather than visual person, then you can get an audio course to listen to on your flight and ignore how it may be spelt entirely, although these are usually not available at airports, so you should get it in advance. Your local library likely has a good audio course that you can copy to your MP3 player to listen to later. I find the phonetics in phrasebooks to be more than enough, but hearing the language in advance definitely helps you get a better feel for it. With tonal (many Asian) languages, an audio course is much more necessary.</p>
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<p>Of course, I also applied this to getting some of the basics in Thai in my head to get started <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve settled well into Bangkok and <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">on Monday I&#8217;ll summarise my first 6 days here for those curious of the travel part of this mission</span> (Edit: I&#8217;ll stay in Bangkok for the week, so I&#8217;ll sum up my time here after I&#8217;ve left) I&#8217;ll summarise my first impressions of the language and my chances of achieving the mission.</p>
<p>I found Polish interesting in the little I&#8217;ve learned from it. Although not necessary from what I said in this post, I went further and studied how the phonetics of the writing system works. The currency, the <em>złoty</em>, is actually pronounced <em>zwoty</em> (that l with a dash through it acts as a w) and <em>Kraków</em> is pronounced Krakoov. The little Czech I have left helped me in some words like pokoj (room) and <em>Nie</em> <em>rozumiem</em> (similar to <em>Nerozumím</em>: <em>I don&#8217;t understand)</em>, but not much more than that without further study. Fluent Polish may be one of my missions soon enough &#8211; time will tell!</p>
<p>How do you start learning a language? What material do you use? Any books/courses in particular? Has anyone else been successful in learning enough to get by in just a few short hours? Do share it with us in the comments!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>It&#8217;s time for my next mission!! Sceptics beware; as always I&#8217;m going for an ambitious goal <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In a few short hours, I&#8217;m going a complicated route (Krakow &#8211;&#62; Prague, Prague &#8211;&#62; Amsterdam, Amsterdam &#8211;&#62; Bangkok; it was the cheapest option and gets me &#8220;miles&#8221; in my preferred programme) to <em>Thailand</em>.</p>
<p>With an extended tourist visa and a ticket back to Europe 8 weeks later, I plan to be able to <em>read and </em><em>speak </em>Thai by the end of my stay.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been in Thailand before (which is kind of unique in this day and age for someone who&#8217;s already been travelling for 7 years) and I don&#8217;t speak any other Asian languages. I&#8217;ve never dealt with a tonal language before, and I&#8217;ve never read a language that doesn&#8217;t use the <a id="aptureLink_25bMFdQGna" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman%20script">Latin alphabet</a>.</p>
<p>Despite all of that, I&#8217;m confident that I&#8217;ve&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s time for my next mission!! Sceptics beware; as always I&#8217;m going for an ambitious goal <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In a few short hours, I&#8217;m going a complicated route (Krakow &#8211;&gt; Prague, Prague &#8211;&gt; Amsterdam, Amsterdam &#8211;&gt; Bangkok; it was the cheapest option and gets me &#8220;miles&#8221; in my preferred programme) to <em>Thailand</em>.</p>
<p>With an extended tourist visa and a ticket back to Europe 8 weeks later, I plan to be able to <em>read and </em><em>speak </em>Thai by the end of my stay.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been in Thailand before (which is kind of unique in this day and age for someone who&#8217;s already been travelling for 7 years) and I don&#8217;t speak any other Asian languages. I&#8217;ve never dealt with a tonal language before, and I&#8217;ve never read a language that doesn&#8217;t use the <a id="aptureLink_25bMFdQGna" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman%20script">Latin alphabet</a>.</p>
<p>Despite all of that, I&#8217;m confident that I&#8217;ve got a good chance of reaching my goal! But first, I should <strong>very clearly define that goal</strong>!</p>
<h2>The hard part</h2>
<p>I plan on achieving something that I imagine very very few tourists do on short visits to Thailand. I want to be able to correctly speak<em> </em>the 5 tones of Thai and be able to read a given text of several sentences aloud to a local (who is <em>not </em>necessarily familiar with English and European accents), so that they can understand it.</p>
<p>This of course,  involves me learning how to <em>read </em>Thai. There are 44 consonants, 21 initial sounds, 8 final sounds and 32 vowels. And of course, it&#8217;s written <a id="aptureLink_0lYu5SZfm7" href="http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%A2">in symbols</a> that are completely strange and foreign to me, with no spaces between words and an entirely new set of vocabulary to learn. Sounds like fun!! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t plan on being able to read with a perfect Thai accent, but I want Thais to understand me when I speak. This is much harder than it sounds because even <em>pronouncing </em>a word correctly can still leave it as incomprehensible if you don&#8217;t apply the right tone to it.</p>
<p>For example, I see that the word <em><a href="http://learn-thai-podcast.com/blog/learn-thai-lessons/five-tones-in-thai-lesson/" target="_blank">mai</a> </em>can mean <strong>new</strong>, <strong>no</strong>, <strong>silk</strong>, <em>turn a sentence into a question</em>, or <em>is used to form new words</em>, depending on which of the five tones you apply to it.</p>
<p>So I believe this is indeed an ambitious goal! I will award myself <em>5 stars</em> at the end of the 8 weeks if I can read a short text of several sentences (that I&#8217;ve never seen before) to several different Thais who don&#8217;t speak fluent English, and who definitely understand what I&#8217;ve said.</p>
<p>To make the mission even harder, I will be working full time (<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-become-a-location-independent-freelance-translator/">as always</a>), so all work I put into learning and practising Thai will be <em>less than</em> part time, since I also plan on enjoying myself in my free time in ways other than speaking the language <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<h2>The easy part</h2>
<p>The hard part of this mission is definitely the <em>reading </em>aspect and mastering the tones. The rest will be much easier. Thai grammar is much simpler than it is in European languages, and unlike a typical backpacker arriving freshly in Thailand on his round-the-world ticket for his gap year, I&#8217;ve got 7 years of developing my method of learning  languages and actually applying them and achieving fluency several times over (anyone could apply the same method, but sadly, most don&#8217;t).</p>
<p>Apart from the tones and Thai script, I imagine (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) that this will be more or less the same as learning a European language, just with more <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/">vocabulary to memorise</a>, and a much simpler grammatical system.</p>
<p>Despite that, because I&#8217;ll have my work cut out for me in what I outlined above, I won&#8217;t be putting as much work into speaking &#8220;fluently&#8221; (that will come in the next visit to Thailand if I decide to). I&#8217;m not even going to aim to speak <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/"><em>pretty well</em> <em>in 2 months</em></a>. I&#8217;m told that tones and script are the hardest part of Asian languages, so I&#8217;m going straight to the core of the problem and focussing on it from the start.</p>
<p>The &#8220;speak&#8221; part in the title of this mission is also a mockery of those who aim to &#8220;speak&#8221; a language for something such as a <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/language-new-years-resolution/">New Year&#8217;s resolution</a>, without clearly defining what this means.</p>
<p>If you say you &#8220;speak&#8221; a language, this can be anything from being <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">confused for a native</a>, to having just a few words or sentences. Hell, even a<strong> parrot </strong>can <em>speak</em>! It doesn&#8217;t actually mean anything in terms of language level or actual comprehension. So no matter how great or how miserably I do in this mission I <strong>will </strong>&#8220;speak&#8221; <em>something</em> at the end of it.</p>
<p>More specifically, I am aiming to <strong><em>speak basic to lower intermediate</em> Thai</strong> in the 8 weeks I&#8217;m there; asking directions, ordering food, basic small talk and haggling etc. and getting the gist of typical responses, without relying on <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travel-phrasebooks-a-serious-language-learners-best-first-book-to-study/">my phrasebook</a>.</p>
<p>I would push this goal up higher, but as well as the difficulty of the tones and reading part, I&#8217;ve decided to go south to the islands, rather than north where I&#8217;d be immersed much more and <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">not speak any English</a>; by far the best way to learn a language quickly. I&#8217;m told that the south is much more touristy, and I am very honestly telling you that I am not going for an &#8220;authentic&#8221; experience in just 8 weeks, having never been there before and feeling in the mood to relax a little.</p>
<p>Most of the rest of 2010 will involve me being immersed in cultures and avoiding English speakers, and going for <em>even harder</em> goals than this one. So I&#8217;m going to take it easy in Thailand, live on a beach, get regular cheap massages (and, unfortunately, work full time), hang out with both Thais <em>and </em>other tourists and party <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>At the end of my stay I&#8217;ll make a short video entirely in Thai, so any curious readers of the blog can hear how I&#8217;m speaking.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be in Bangkok for my first days and will investigate where to go to from there.</p>
<h2>Can it be done?</h2>
<p>Despite the fact that I am being upfront now about the fact that I <em>will </em>be a &#8220;tourist&#8221; in Thailand, I plan on putting a lot of work into the tones, and understanding the writing system and I&#8217;m fully aware of the fact that this will be <strong>hard work</strong>.</p>
<p>Since this is entirely new territory for me, I&#8217;ll be relying on advice from others to help me (as well as my own experience). For example, <a href="http://matadorabroad.com/how-to-learn-a-tonal-language/" target="_blank">Matador recommends</a> that I should get a tutor (I usually prefer to learn almost entirely through active natural application of a language, but I&#8217;ll make an exception this time), and sing it (music has already hugely helped me to learn other languages; I&#8217;ll explain how in a later post).</p>
<p>If anyone else has some useful advice, such as image association for the symbols etc. then please do let me know of them!! Otherwise I&#8217;ll just develop my own method <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Although tones and writing systems are completely different across most Asian languages, I feel that if I can find out <em>how </em>to master them quickly, then I may indeed be able to <em>become fluent in 3 months</em> in other Asian languages.</p>
<p>So this mission is actually a long-term investment for me. I&#8217;ve asked around and those who have learned Asian languages have consistently told me that <em>tones </em>and <em>writing systems</em> are by far the hardest part of those languages to master. So, rather than slowly work my way through a language, I&#8217;m going <strong>straight </strong>to the core of the problem and <strong>focussing almost entirely on this &#8220;hardest&#8221; aspect</strong>. If I can indeed master them quickly, then I don&#8217;t see anything else holding me back, or even holding back anyone else who follows advice from what I&#8217;ve learned, to <em>quickly </em>learn how to speak an Asian language fluently.</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t achieve my goal, I&#8217;ll analyse why and try again later, although <em>as always</em>, I will presume that I&#8217;ll be successful until proven otherwise <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, what do you think? Can it be done? Have I set the bar too high this time? Is 8 weeks way too short a time? Will I spend my entire stay with a confused look on my face as in the photo? Any advice to help me succeed?</p>
<p>Do share your thoughts in the comments and join me as I learn to <em> read and speak Thai in 8 weeks</em>!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>Happy New Year!! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <em> </em></p>
<p>Four years ago I made a New Year&#8217;s resolution to never <em>ever </em>make New Year&#8217;s resolutions again, and I have stuck to it! The reason? I almost never kept to the resolution. I&#8217;d join the gym, and go just a few times and then get lazy, and stop, or I wouldn&#8217;t last a week past &#8220;giving up&#8221; TV etc. It just wasn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;ve remained stagnant in the last 4 years and not improved myself. Quite the contrary! I&#8217;ve found a method that works much better for me for achieving my goals, and of course I never limit it just to the first few weeks of the year.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;ve made a new year&#8217;s resolution to <em>learn French/Spanish </em>etc. then maybe this approach may help you so that you actually <em>achieve </em>that goal.</p>
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<p>Happy New Year!! <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <em> </em></p>
<p>Four years ago I made a New Year&#8217;s resolution to never <em>ever </em>make New Year&#8217;s resolutions again, and I have stuck to it! The reason? I almost never kept to the resolution. I&#8217;d join the gym, and go just a few times and then get lazy, and stop, or I wouldn&#8217;t last a week past &#8220;giving up&#8221; TV etc. It just wasn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;ve remained stagnant in the last 4 years and not improved myself. Quite the contrary! I&#8217;ve found a method that works much better for me for achieving my goals, and of course I never limit it just to the first few weeks of the year.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;ve made a new year&#8217;s resolution to <em>learn French/Spanish </em>etc. then maybe this approach may help you so that you actually <em>achieve </em>that goal.</p>
<h2>New plan of action</h2>
<p>The problem with a resolution is that it just envisions the end-goal and not the process. &#8220;Speak fluent German&#8221; is a <em>nice </em>promise to make yourself, but it doesn&#8217;t actually mean anything unless you&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/defining-fluency-to-achieve-fluency/">defined exactly</a> what fluency means to you and set yourself a timeframe to achieve it by. Frankly, a year is way too long and you may end up making excuses and constantly postpone it until &#8220;the next&#8221; month since you still have <em>plenty of time</em> until the deadline.</p>
<p>Even if you think fluency is out of your reach in a short time (which this blog attempts to prove that it isn&#8217;t), you can aim for a pretty good level of the language, enough to communicate basically, or even enough to order from a waiter without relying on your dictionary or other less daunting goals; as long as you are very specific about what they mean.</p>
<p>My most important goals have 2-3 month time limits, and I <em>have been successful</em> in a lot of them, for example, my most recent one to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">speak Portuguese with no accent in 3 months</a>. 2010 will be made up entirely of such goals for me (and I&#8217;ll blog about them here of course). This shorter time limit has given me more pressure and based on <a id="aptureLink_YiLfBBQbYv" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s%20Law">Parkinson&#8217;s law</a>, I&#8217;ve achieved the goal in that time limit.</p>
<p>Even then it&#8217;s still too broad a task to seem achievable, unless you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/mini-goals-are-the-path-to-achieving-fluency/">break it up into mini-goals</a>. Rather than make just <em>one </em>resolution of fluent in 3/6/9 months, break it up into achievable chunks like <em>learn all vocabulary related to the kitchen </em>by the end of the day. Each of these add up much better to the end goal than most vague resolutions ever do.</p>
<h2>Mission possible</h2>
<p>In fact, you should abandon the use of the word <em>resolution </em>entirely. It&#8217;s boring. Those following my blog know the word I like to use: <strong>mission</strong>.</p>
<p>Having been brought up with way too many action movies and TV shows, I like to add a little drama to otherwise mundane tasks, and the concept of a <em>mission</em> to be completed makes it seem much more exciting.</p>
<p>James Bond, Indiana Jones, Harry Potter, the <a id="aptureLink_EK0PvYR0Gj" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage%20Mutant%20Ninja%20Turtles">teenage mutant ninja/hero turtles</a> and <a id="aptureLink_kl6VgqXFag" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain%20Planet%20and%20the%20Planeteers">Captain Planet</a> had missions. Joe Shmoe who wants to <em>just </em>&#8220;speak Japanese&#8221; is making a resolution with no plan of action, and he very likely won&#8217;t achieve it, or at least definitely not that year. A resolution is a <em>hope </em>to achieve something. A mission is an urgent plan-of-action to achieve it; this is more than just a change of use of words. The underlying process involved is completely different.</p>
<p>When I have a mission, I may not be saving the world from aliens, shredder, Dr. No (or Dr. Evil), but I&#8217;m achieving something important to me; so this has equal urgency as a mission to a fictional hero does. I create urgent pressure such as going to the country where the language is spoken, or blogging to hundreds of people about my progress so there is that extra bit of motivation not to fail.</p>
<p>If you respond to that thought process with &#8220;but I can&#8217;t travel!&#8221; you are still in the <em>resolution </em>mindset. There are ways around any issues you may have (such as <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">not being able to travel</a>). Those with a mission <strong>do <em>whatever it takes </em>to achieve that goal</strong>. Those with a resolution come up with lazy excuses why it&#8217;s not possible and abandon it early on.</p>
<p>Turn this resolution into a <em>mission</em>!!</p>
<h2>Other practical language tips</h2>
<p>Those of you familiar with the blog will have seen that I&#8217;ve completely changed the layout! (<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com">Check it out</a> if you are reading this by subscription &#8211; many thanks to subscriber <em>Randy </em>for his help in getting around a few technical issues!)</p>
<p>Now, there is an option to see categories of articles, including those related specifically to tips about learning languages. I summarised most of the earlier ones when I discussed how to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-speak-a-language-pretty-well-starting-from-scratch-in-just-two-months/">learn a language pretty well in two months</a>, but more specifically see how the following posts can help (also given in the &#8220;<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/category/language-learning/">Learning Languages</a>&#8221; category of the site):</p>
<p>Making the most important (and hardest) decision of <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/">not speaking English</a>, learning a language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/">even if you are busy</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/couchsurfing-how-to-practise-with-a-native-without-even-needing-to-leave-your-home/">hosting natives in your house</a> (for free), <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/getting-rid-of-your-english-accent/">getting rid of your English accent</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/gender-issues/">getting used to noun genders</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/practise-a-language-without-travelling/">practising the language without travelling abroad</a>, seeing the thousands of words of the language <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/thousands-of-words-instantly/">you already know</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-convince-natives-to-speak-to-you-in-their-language/">convincing natives</a> to speak to you in their language, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/conversational-connectors-how-to-fake-having-a-conversation-just-after-starting-to-learn-a-language/">faking a conversation in the early stages</a> with the right connector phrases, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/imagination-your-key-to-memorizing-hundreds-of-words-quickly/">memorising words easily</a>, <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/redifining-your-motivation/">being clear about your motivation</a>, using <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travel-phrasebooks-a-serious-language-learners-best-first-book-to-study/">phrasebooks as the first book you study</a>, and <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/starting-to-learn-a-language-with-the-right-attitude/">having the right attitude</a> if you think your language is hard.</p>
<p>There will of course be many more articles along the same lines this year, so keep reading and maybe with one another&#8217;s help, we can both achieve our language missions <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ll introduce my next (ambitious) mission on Monday!</p>
<p>What is your language mission for the next few short months? Do you think this mindset will help, or is it just fancy semantics? Oh, and do you like my new site layout?? Do share your thoughts in the comments!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>[No language/travel tips here; just a summary of the survey results and plans for the website next year]</p>
<p>Last week <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/happy-holidays-quick-questions/">I requested</a> that a few of you fill out a survey to help me improve this site for next year; I was expecting perhaps a few dozen responses at best, but I&#8217;ve actually gotten <strong>130</strong>!! (That&#8217;s almost 20% of my subscribers) Thank you!!</p>
<p>There was so much information to get through, but I&#8217;ve analysed it and will definitely be applying lots of your suggestions! I&#8217;ve also learned a lot about the type of people who read my blog; knowing my audience better definitely helps <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, I thought that I would share my conclusions from the survey with you here; any further comments, be sure to write them at the end of this post!!</p>
<h1>Content</h1>
<p>Something that quite surprised me is that a&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>[No language/travel tips here; just a summary of the survey results and plans for the website next year]</p>
<p>Last week <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/happy-holidays-quick-questions/">I requested</a> that a few of you fill out a survey to help me improve this site for next year; I was expecting perhaps a few dozen responses at best, but I&#8217;ve actually gotten <strong>130</strong>!! (That&#8217;s almost 20% of my subscribers) Thank you!!</p>
<p>There was so much information to get through, but I&#8217;ve analysed it and will definitely be applying lots of your suggestions! I&#8217;ve also learned a lot about the type of people who read my blog; knowing my audience better definitely helps <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, I thought that I would share my conclusions from the survey with you here; any further comments, be sure to write them at the end of this post!!</p>
<h1>Content</h1>
<p>Something that quite surprised me is that a huge amount of you said that what you most enjoy in my posts is the positivity and humour I convey in writing. This is funny to me, since I consider my posts rather factual, and any positivity and humour just comes naturally as my style of writing and thinking. Based on this feedback, I&#8217;ll think of more topics to discuss relevant to the <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/starting-to-learn-a-language-with-the-right-attitude/">attitude</a> necessary to learning languages and travelling.</p>
<p>The <strong>huge </strong>amount of encouraging comments (a lot of which I&#8217;ve written personal thank-yous for) has made me feel <em>great </em>over the holidays! It&#8217;s amazing to see how my blog has inspired a lot of you to take on the task of learning a language or considering travelling as not-so-impossible and realistically reaching these goals by seeing me prove how it&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>Some of you also listed your favourite posts. The one that stood out by far was <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/the-smartest-decision-you-will-ever-make-to-achieve-fluency/"><em>the smartest decision you&#8217;ll ever make to achieve fluency</em></a>. I&#8217;ve gone back to that post and edited it for readability by splitting up the extremely long paragraphs (great advice from <a href="http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/" target="_blank">Scott Young</a>, an experienced blogger who has been helping me a lot lately). I agree that this is the most relevant post of the year, since <em>not speaking English</em> has been the deciding factor in achieving my language goals. I will expand on that concept more in the coming year.</p>
<p>The second most popular post was the more recent <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/getting-rid-of-your-english-accent/">getting rid of your English accent</a>, where I got more technical on specific aspects of speaking a language. A lot of you said that you like it when I get technical, so I will be going into more detail on such posts in future!</p>
<p>The third most popular post was the one telling you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/scared-to-meet-new-people/">not to be scared</a> to meet new people; this one surprised me somewhat since this post has much fewer comments than other ones, but it corresponds to what you said about attitude being an important aspect of this blog. I can only tell how much you like a post based on number of comments, as well as retweets and links from other blogs or shares on facebook (all of which I get notified of), so if you appreciate any post in particular, please do let me know so I can write more like it <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>People also mentioned that you would like me to go into more detail on mission updates. While I do not want to turn this into a <em>travel blog</em> (you can get my daily updates of what life is like in the country <a href="http://twitter.com/irishpolyglot" target="_blank">on my twitter account</a>), I will try to give more regular updates on my thoughts on the language and culture that I&#8217;m currently immersed in!</p>
<p>Finally, a lot of you enjoy my clear way of writing, especially as a means of practising your English if you aren&#8217;t a native. While I do make the occasional mistake, I always carefully proofread my posts for quality and I agree with those who mentioned that a lot of blog posts out there are very sloppily written. If you see any mistake, feel free to <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/contact-me/">contact me</a> and I&#8217;ll correct it.</p>
<h1>Post length</h1>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that the length of my posts do not deter most of you, and some of you pointed out that going by “suggested standards” of snappy posts for an impatient general Internet user (or those with the “<em>attention spans of hyperactive gnats!</em>”<em> </em>as one of you amusingly put it) is not always that great.</p>
<p>Some did point out that posts can go a bit too long, but going into detail is just my style. I believe I do not ramble and do give lots of information. This post for example is quite long, but I know that those who aren&#8217;t interested in this topic will simply skip the post, and that&#8217;s fine with me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in giving full details in all posts to anyone who may happen to enjoy that post and I&#8217;m fully aware that it&#8217;s impossible to write every post to be interesting to absolutely everyone. More people will read snappier posts, but they won&#8217;t give the same amount of information and will thus be lower quality in my opinion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll only spread it across several posts if I think it would enhance reading about the topic. I like one page (and hence one Internet link) to entirely discuss a message, so that I can refer to it later as just one link, or so that others may share the link too.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I definitely do have some quick tips that I will share in posts that are much shorter, since they do not require in-depth explanations or much background information.</p>
<h1><strong>Post frequency</strong></h1>
<p>Quite a large number of you said that you would love to see more posts each week. I&#8217;m afraid that this depends entirely on pure availability. If I could, I would love to write in this blog full time and post daily, but I work full time (or am travelling) so it&#8217;s just not possible, since I do put several hours into each post and do research to make sure I provide the best links for those who want to find out more.</p>
<p>If I can start earning a little money from this blog, while not destroying the site with annoying advertisements, or sacrificing content, then this would allow me to write more frequently, so I will investigate this possibility in the coming year.</p>
<p>For example, I saw that 15% of you didn&#8217;t even notice that I have a “treat me to an Orange Juice if you liked this post” at the end of each post (and on the side of the blog). When I get enough OJs, I specifically take a break from work and devote that time to blogging (after going out for a <em>nice cold one</em>!), so feel free to click and send just a couple of euro my way if you&#8217;ve enjoyed any posts. I&#8217;d rather people think of it as treating me <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">to a drink</a> as a thank you for a helpful post, rather than it being a &#8220;donation&#8221; <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m <em>not</em> travelling the world because I&#8217;m rich (I put that response in as a joke, but sadly, a few of you actually think that it&#8217;s true). Last year I reached my credit card limit (i.e. several thousand euro in debt) twice, and had to work 80 hours a week for a month (that&#8217;s <em>30 consecutive days with no break </em><strong>each time</strong>) to pay it off. [Queue sad violin music]</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to create a sob-story, since it is my own fault from bad financial management that got me into debt each time, but it&#8217;s important that my readers know that I actually do appreciate even tiny extra boosts, and that they <em>do </em>make a difference <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Remember, you <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/do-you-need-to-be-rich-to-travel-the-world/">don&#8217;t have to be rich to travel the world</a>!</p>
<p>One other issue with post frequency is Internet access. I had hoped to introduce the next mission before the end of the year, but there is no Internet in the room where I am staying this week (despite misleading advertisements&#8230;), so writing in public with lots of distractions slows me down and I won&#8217;t be able to introduce it until hopefully the weekend. I&#8217;ll try to not make a promise to make a post by a certain date again unless I&#8217;m absolutely sure that I can make it.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I will continue to write at least once a week (and sometimes up to 3 times, whenever possible). I have enough ideas for blog posts relevant to travel and languages for all of next year and always make a note of a good idea when it comes to me.</p>
<h1>Site background theme</h1>
<p>40% of you agreed on the use of the theme that I had suggested, while 6% of you pointed out that the colour style used with <em><a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/black-hat" target="_blank">Black hat</a> </em>has more personality (while the rest of you don&#8217;t care either way since you read it through e-mail/RSS or see it as much less important than the content).</p>
<p>The different colour was one of the reasons that I chose this theme, but unfortunately it does make it a little harder to read some text, and the dark colour doesn&#8217;t go so well with the upbeat message I try to convey in posts.</p>
<p>However, I will edit the default theme that I&#8217;ll apply next, to my own style, so it will still be unique! I&#8217;ll change themes as soon as I get the chance to make the edits that I want <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">(I am currently having an issue with compatibility with the Disqus commenting plugin. If anyone with Wordpress/java familiarity could give me a hand, it would be great!!)</span> Edit: the new theme is live! Hope you like it <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>So let me say thanks again to all the amazingly positive feedback that you have all given me!! There are actually several other points that I haven&#8217;t discussed here that were brought up that I&#8217;ll also be applying. I always appreciate your comments and can honestly say that I feel like I&#8217;m going through these missions in good company thanks to all my readers <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My next post will be some practical advice on the plan of action to take in order to achieve a New Year&#8217;s resolution of learning a language, since I imagine a lot of people will be making such a commitment to themselves.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ll finally start discussing the next mission (<em>hopefully </em>this weekend before I fly out on Monday); ooh, the suspense!! Those of you linked to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/fluentin3months" target="_blank">my facebook page</a> or twitter already know what that language is of course!</p>
<p>All the best for everyone in the new year!<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<h1>Rio de Janeiro</h1>
I am absolutely <em>amazed</em> by <a id="aptureLink_Ke6IrzMqIu" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio%20de%20Janeiro">this city</a>. It has a fascinating cultural history, an active music and dance scene, some of the most outstanding scenery I've ever come across, the world's most famous Carnaval, samba, enough to inspire judges to have it be the host of both the <a id="aptureLink_wMltFIgvhm" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%20FIFA%20World%20Cup">2014 World cup</a> final and the <a id="aptureLink_XYjMypy8uG" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCoqZNesnM">2016 Olympics</a>, and, <em>most important of all,</em> Cariocas - its residents.

I came here in September of this year, with <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/become-brazilian-in-3-months">the mission</a> of trying to become more like them (<em>me carioquizar</em>), and I got so much more than that from my time there!
<h1>3 months in the marvellous city</h1>
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<h1>Rio de Janeiro</h1>
<p>I am absolutely <em>amazed</em> by <a id="aptureLink_Ke6IrzMqIu" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio%20de%20Janeiro">this city</a>. It has a fascinating cultural history, an active music and dance scene, some of the most outstanding scenery I&#8217;ve ever come across, the world&#8217;s most famous Carnaval, samba, enough to inspire judges to have it be the host of both the <a id="aptureLink_wMltFIgvhm" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%20FIFA%20World%20Cup">2014 World cup</a> final and the <a id="aptureLink_XYjMypy8uG" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCoqZNesnM">2016 Olympics</a>, and, <em>most important of all,</em> Cariocas &#8211; its residents.</p>
<p>I came here in September of this year, with <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/become-brazilian-in-3-months">the mission</a> of trying to become more like them (<em>me carioquizar</em>), and I got so much more than that from my time there!</p>
<h1>3 months in the marvellous city</h1>
<p><a id="aptureLink_ZDwobVS6jI" style="padding: 0px 6px; float: left;" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishpolyglot/4169052753/"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0px none;" title="P1000886_7_8" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4169052753_93a5d485eb.jpg" alt="" width="239px" height="179px" /></a></p>
<p>Some things that foreigners are expected to do in Rio include going up the Christ statue and sugar loaf mountain, visiting specifically during the Carnaval (or New Year), getting an apartment/hotel in Ipanema (or Copacabana), going on a favela tour, and getting to know only other foreigners or those working in the tourist industry.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t do any of these in the 3 months that I was there. All expats are tourists in one way or another, but I have my own &#8220;touristy&#8221; style (not  <em>better</em>, just different). Hoping for an &#8220;authentic experience&#8221; is the holy grail of tourists <em>and </em>long-term travellers. I&#8217;m not unique in that goal; but I think my way of doing it through emulating locals (both outwardly and linguistically) does make it that wee bit more achievable.</p>
<p>I had wanted to learn to samba, but didn&#8217;t find a set-up to conveniently learn it intensively in the way I wanted, as I had done for <a id="aptureLink_h4XUUvCeM5" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2hop_x8vA">tango in Buenos Aires</a>, so that will have to wait for next time. However, Brazilians (and Cariocas) are not just samba, football and beaches, there are so many sides to them that I personally appreciate. Based on the response to the article I wrote about <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-i-love-brazilians/">why I love Brazilians</a>, Brazilians themselves have confirmed that I &#8220;get&#8221; them, at least better than your average gringo.</p>
<p>Other than that, I had gone up the Christ statue and the sugar loaf in 2006, when I was in Rio for a few short days (a visit cut short due to a &#8220;disagreement&#8221; with a federal police officer, but that&#8217;s another story). This time I really wanted to get to know the city <em>through its people</em>.</p>
<h1>Day to day life</h1>
<p>I <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/scared-to-meet-new-people/">made friends</a> mostly by just talking to them in the street and in parties (Brazilians and definitely Cariocas are very friendly) and also <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/couchsurfing-how-to-practise-with-a-native-without-even-needing-to-leave-your-home/">through Couchsurfing</a>, <a href="http://www.meetup.com" target="_blank">meetup.com</a> and <a href="http://www.orkut.com" target="_blank">Orkut</a>. I love eating out, so I would socialise over dinner (always <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/travelling-vegetarian/">vegetarian</a>), or go out for drinks (<a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/does-drinking-help-you-speak-a-foreign-language/">non-alcoholic</a> in my case).</p>
<p>To save enough money to give me some financial security in case work dried up again in future (as it did <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/hitting-a-brick-wall-in-your-language-progress/">when I was in Prague</a>), I had to work about 50 hours a week for most of my stay. This meant spending most of my week at home and spending much less time with Cariocas than what I ideally could have spent.</p>
<p>Despite this, I <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/mission-complete-and-next-mission/">achieved my goal</a> and learned so many ways to vastly improve my Portuguese <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/">to even sound like a Carioca</a>. I am always working full time while trying to achieve the goals in  all my missions, so I remind others that lack of <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/how-to-make-time-if-you-are-too-busy/">time from being &#8220;too busy&#8221;</a> is not a good excuse for not realizing important projects.<a id="aptureLink_OZdrmoVqaU" style="padding: 0px 6px; float: right;" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishpolyglot/4184505496/"><img style="border: 0px none;" title="P1000978" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2742/4184505496_e4de1d2395.jpg" alt="" width="233" height="175" /></a></p>
<p>Since I was to spend most of my week there, I found some <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/finding-accommodation/">really good accommodation</a> (you <a id="aptureLink_WZROvPYW2x" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishpolyglot/3944843475/">can</a> <a id="aptureLink_3znSe7rI5o" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishpolyglot/3946040536/">watch</a> a video tour I made of my home). I would go out once or twice a week to parties, mostly at the weekend because I had to get up quite early during the week (since my clients are all in Europe, I have to follow European work times, no matter which time zone I may be in).</p>
<p>For the last month I hosted various <em>pizza parties, </em>where I invited up to 50 people to my penthouse apartment and we simply ordered delivery pizza and enjoyed the view and one another&#8217;s company. That pizzeria absolutely loved me for the amount of business they got thanks to me!</p>
<h1>Tips on how to become a Carioca</h1>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1600375006?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=fluein3mont-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1600375006" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" title="carioca" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/carioca.jpg" alt="" width="75" height="116" /></a>It turns out, (surprise surprise) that I was <em>not </em>the first gringo in the history of the universe to ever try to become a Carioca! (Although I may have been the first to seriously attempt and document it in such a short time frame).</p>
<p>There is an excellent book written for those on a similar mission, who wish to know the mannerisms of Cariocas, simply called <em>How to be a Carioca</em> (Amazon <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1600375006?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=fluein3mont-21&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creative=6738&amp;creativeASIN=1600375006" target="_blank">UK</a>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1600375006?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=fluein3mont-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1600375006" target="_blank">US</a>). It contains some excellent tips on how to act like a Carioca. It&#8217;s a humorous account and most of what it says is amusingly accurate. It&#8217;s got a few handy Carioca words, but otherwise does not help with actually speaking; although I found my own way of becoming fluent in <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/sound-like-a-carioca/"><em>carioquês</em></a>.</p>
<p>Most things that I learned myself were confirmed in the book, the most frustrating of which was Cariocas&#8217; relationship with <em>Paulistas</em> (residents of São Paulo). It&#8217;s the only part of Cariocas I didn&#8217;t like &#8211; they make up ridiculous reasons why São Paulo and its residents are the mole on the ass of the world. &#8221;Well&#8230; I&#8217;ve never <em>been there</em>, but my sister has a friend who went once and someone was rude to him in the street!!&#8221; I heard this same explanation <em>several times </em>(with sister replaced by brother/friend/doorman).</p>
<p>If you wish to become a Carioca, you&#8217;ll have to hate Paulistas <em>for no good reason</em>; I can&#8217;t do this &#8211; São Paulo was my first port of entry ever in Brazil and I have very fond memories as well as some amazing friends there. But this competition between major cities, major universities, major sports teams etc. all in the same country is something I&#8217;ve seen in other cultures too. It&#8217;s rarely logical.</p>
<p>Other than that one negative point, I loved everything about Cariocas <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  A few points I&#8217;ll add myself that I didn&#8217;t find in the book:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Cariocas love to take the piss</em> (<em>sacanear</em>). While they are always friendly with strangers, they will play tricks on and mock friends in a cheery way. Fortunately, Irish culture has this dry humour between friends too, but it still took some getting used to, since I&#8217;ve been out of practise in other countries that don&#8217;t do it as much (or make it really obvious, like the American &#8220;I&#8217;m kidding&#8221; frequently added to any humour so there is no confusion). It&#8217;s very important not to be overly sensitive and to take this in your stride, it shows how comfortable and relaxed they are with you. I quite liked this!</li>
<li><em>Cariocas can be relied on</em>. One surprise I found was that Cariocas were actually <em>quite punctual </em>(by South American standards). If they make a promise, they will live up to their word. However, a true promise needs to be understood <span style="text-decoration: underline;">from the context</span>. For example, a casual <em>eu te ligo </em>should not be taken literally as written in stone that they will call you. An inability to distinguish between these &#8220;filler words&#8221; and real promises will have you feeling disappointed!</li>
</ul>
<p>There are other points I had to work on, which are more generally Brazilian or simply <em>non-anglophone</em>, such as:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Snappier formalities</em>. It was immediately pointed out to me that I dragged out telephone conversation formalities too much. The equivalent of &#8220;It was nice talking to you, I&#8217;ll see you later, have a nice day!&#8221; is replaced with &#8220;um beijo!&#8221; (presuming you are talking with a woman). Day-to-day conversation is also much quicker and to the point. When ordering food from street venders for example, you just say what you want, you don&#8217;t precede it with the equivalent of &#8220;Good morning, I&#8217;d like a&#8230;&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<h1>Closing remarks</h1>
<p>There are many other points that I&#8217;ve learned in these three months that I feel may be common to other Latin cultures and languages, so I&#8217;ll discuss them at some other time.</p>
<p>I really felt the passion that Cariocas have for Rio during my stay, especially for during the lead up to the announcement of who would host the 2016 Olympic games. I have to admit that I was almost in tears in hearing the passionate presentation given by those representing Rio, and I could feel in the resulting celebrations that they <em>really </em>wanted it; not out of arrogant pride, but out of genuine love for their city.</p>
<p>Cariocas really adore this city, and now <em>so do I</em>. For reasons much greater than those seen superficially by very brief visitors, I now finally understand why it&#8217;s called <em>a cidade maravilhosa</em>; the marvellous city.</p>
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<p>I hope you&#8217;ve enjoyed joining me in this journey! If you have your own experience in Rio you&#8217;d like to share, or your thoughts on my time there, please leave a comment below <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That just about wraps up this mission! If you haven&#8217;t had the chance yet, could you please leave me your thoughts on how the website has presented this mission <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NYXTDPH" target="_blank">in this 10 question survey</a> (I&#8217;ve already gotten an amazing 120 fantastic and insightful responses!! Thanks so much to all of you that have contributed already!!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll summarise the results of the survey in the next post (I&#8217;m planning to make big changes in how I post thanks to your suggestions!) and then later in the week I can get started on posts relevant to <em>the next mission</em> <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<p>I was about to update my facebook status to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, but this creates a certain problem; most of my facebook friends are not native English speakers and some don&#8217;t celebrate Christmas.</p>
<p>While they may have enough to understand the simple phrase &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221;, it&#8217;s forcing a language in their feed that they may not be able to respond to well.</p>
<p>When I do get responses to some updates, I get them in several languages and a real discussion can never take place, and people get notified in their inboxes of languages they don&#8217;t understand, if they have responded or <em>liked </em>an update.</p>
<p>As well as this, I have friends who <em>don&#8217;t</em> celebrate Christmas (several Jewish friends, and some atheist friends), but I&#8217;d still like to wish them well with different wording.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed some of my friends get around it by simply repeating the well&#8230; <font size=1><i>(click the post title to read more and leave comments)</font></i></p>]]></description>
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<p>I was about to update my facebook status to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, but this creates a certain problem; most of my facebook friends are not native English speakers and some don&#8217;t celebrate Christmas.</p>
<p>While they may have enough to understand the simple phrase &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221;, it&#8217;s forcing a language in their feed that they may not be able to respond to well.</p>
<p>When I do get responses to some updates, I get them in several languages and a real discussion can never take place, and people get notified in their inboxes of languages they don&#8217;t understand, if they have responded or <em>liked </em>an update.</p>
<p>As well as this, I have friends who <em>don&#8217;t</em> celebrate Christmas (several Jewish friends, and some atheist friends), but I&#8217;d still like to wish them well with different wording.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed some of my friends get around it by simply repeating the well wishes over several statuses or even clogging up one status with various messages or languages; this can get annoying to those reading it in their feed.</p>
<p>This was a problem until recently, but facebook has made a fantastic upgrade to how your statuses are displayed: <strong>filtered updates</strong>.</p>
<h1>Setting up the filters</h1>
<p><a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/list_a.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1322" title="list_a" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/list_a.jpg" alt="" width="155" height="126" /></a>This takes a few minutes, but is worth the investment if you want to make targeted status updates. There are so many ways you could use this: just to those who speak a particular language, just to those in your town, just for the single pretty girls, <em>block </em>the update from those you don&#8217;t want to hear about it, just for family, just for work-colleagues etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/list_b.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1329" title="list_b" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/list_b.jpg" alt="" width="110" height="99" /></a>When logged into facebook, click &#8220;friends&#8221; at the top and then &#8220;Create new list&#8221;, write the name of the list (<em>Argentina</em>, <em>Esperanto</em>, <em>fellow nerd</em>s, etc.), then select that list on the left, then <em>Add friends to list&#8230; </em>and simply click through all those friends and save.</p>
<p>I like to simply label the country first (if enough people are part of that country, otherwise I&#8217;d go straight to language), and add any other label for that person (they can have several, for different types of filters) and <em>then </em>after labelling everyone&#8217;s country, I can sub-filter just the countries and assign languages broadly to countries (Spanish to Spain <em>and</em> Argentina for example) if relevant.</p>
<p>If you are filtering by language, make sure to put <em>everyone else</em> into the English category (or language you usually update the status in), because otherwise everyone would have to read these statuses, including those who have already read it in another language. Also, when you accept new friends, you&#8217;ll notice that there is an option to add them to a list as you accept them, so they can be included with the correct category.</p>
<p>Depending on the number of friends you have, this may take  some time to set up, but it&#8217;s a worthwhile investment for filtering your status updates, sending emails, seeing the friends separated in chat and many more reasons.</p>
<h1>Updating the status</h1>
<p><a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/custom.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1323" title="custom" src="http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/custom.jpg" alt="" width="157" height="113" /></a>Once you have your lists set up, all you need to do now is write it out for one group (language, location, religion, etc.) and then click the lock symbol to the left of &#8220;Share&#8221;, followed by <em>Custom</em>. Here you can select the group that will see the update by selecting &#8220;Specific people&#8221; and typing the name of the list. Everyone else will not see it. You can also select a group to <em>not </em>see it (ex-girlfriends, parents, co-workers etc.), in the &#8220;Hide from these people&#8221; option, which can be very handy when you want to share some sensitive news.</p>
<p>This means that you can write &#8220;Happy Christmas&#8221; followed by &#8220;Feliz Navidad&#8221;, &#8220;Joyeux Noël&#8221; etc. all one after the other, and your friends&#8217; will only see one of them and their feeds will not be flooded by you. It also encourages you to practise foreign languages by always updating your status in English <em>and </em>in the language you wish to practise, without annoying those not interested in reading that language.</p>
<p>If you enjoyed this post, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fluentin3months.com%2Fmulticultural-status-updates%2F&amp;t=Using%20facebook%20lists%20for%20multicultural%20holiday%20wishes%20and%20practising%20languages%20in%20status%20updates" target="_blank">please share it on facebook</a>, but there&#8217;s no need to use a filter <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (non English speakers can read the translation of this post given above by G-Translate).</p>
<p>So go on and wish your friends a Happy Christmas, a late Happy Hanukkah, feliz navidad, happy holidays, Joeux Noël, etc. <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>By the way, thanks to everyone so far for filling out my survey <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/happy-holidays-quick-questions/" target="_blank">from yesterday&#8217;s post</a>! I&#8217;m still hoping to get a few more answers so if you have 3 minutes to spare, I&#8217;d love to hear your opinion on how I can make this site better in 2010!</p>
<p>If you liked this post, you may be interested in seeing <a href="http://www.fluentin3months.com/multilingual-computer/">how to make your computer multilingual</a>.</p>
<p>Do you already use this feature in facebook? How else have you used facebook&#8217;s lists? Do you have friends from many languages and cultures, or is there another way you might think of using this status update? Do share in the comments <img src='http://www.fluentin3months.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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