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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[The local race part 2: acquisition vs retention]]></title>
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		<updated>2011-06-17T13:52:54Z</updated>
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		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="daily deals" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local ecommerce" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[In Part 1, I discussed one major axis of the local race; managed vs self service. Here we&#8217;re going to dive into the second axis; acquisition vs retention. The acquisition side of the fight is currently represented by the daily deal giants.  Groupon and Living Social have proven that they can push a huge amount [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2011/06/the-local-race-part-2-acquisition-vs-retention/"><![CDATA[<p>In Part 1,<a href="http://evbart.com/2011/05/the-local-daily-deal-race-self-service/"> I discussed one major axis of the local race; managed vs self service</a>.  Here we&#8217;re going to dive into the second axis; acquisition vs retention.</p>
<p><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Screen-shot-2011-06-13-at-9.42.17-AM.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-959" title="Screen shot 2011-06-13 at 9.42.17 AM" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Screen-shot-2011-06-13-at-9.42.17-AM-300x260.png" alt="" width="300" height="260" /></a>The acquisition side of the fight is currently represented by the daily deal giants.  Groupon and Living Social have proven that they can push a huge amount of discounted customers through a local merchant&#8217;s door.</p>
<p>This is a big deal!  For those of us in the web business, we&#8217;ve always been able to &#8220;buy&#8221; customers/traffic from from google.  With a few bucks and some creative keywords, you can get a huge pipeline of traffic flowing towards your online business.  This has never before been available to a local merchant!</p>
<p>In the other corner you&#8217;ve got tools that seem more suited for retention.  Foursquare and Yelp are leading the pack, with SCVNGR, Gowalla, and services like TopGuest chasing behind.  These services close the loop with the consumer after an initial purchase.  They know where the consumer has been (in theory), and they know when the consumer returns to a particular location.  This means they can reward the consumer for repeat visits through either discounts, or virtual prizes like foursquare mayorships.</p>
<p>Yes, these lines are not totally clear. GroupOn could be helping with some retention. Mailing a groupon like discount to your existing customers (if you&#8217;re tracking them) is a great way to reward them for their loyalty.  Foursquare, on the other hand, is also driving customer acquisition, even if they&#8217;re not claiming credit for it (monetizing) as aggressively  as GroupOn.  If you look at the different types of campaigns they offer their merchants, you can see a lot of these help drive new customers via &#8220;swarms&#8221; and &#8220;flashes&#8221;:</p>
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<p>Ultimately, the value is in the acquisition.  Like I mentioned before, the local world previously did not have access to an on-demand source of customers.  There was no local adwords with access to huge sources of traffic.  GroupOn is growing at an insane rate because companies know they can rely on groupon to drive feet through their door (more on this in a subsequent post), and this is valuable enough to give up a big portion of sales.</p>
<p>Retention on the other hand, will be most valuable when used to prove out the ROI for acquisition, not on its own.  Yes, there will be successful businesses built solely on the retention piece, but they won&#8217;t be as big as the ones focused on acquisition.  As with any source of traffic, its only useful if it converts and you can get paying customers from it.  Groupon will not be able to continue at this pace if it can&#8217;t help merchants prove that the traffic is converting into regular loyal customers.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t underestimate groupon or the daily deal rocketship]]></title>
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		<updated>2011-06-15T16:39:45Z</updated>
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		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local ecommerce" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a lot of daily deal bashing posts lately, and I wanted to weigh in since I think there are quite a few misconceptions floating around. The Name First, I&#8217;d like to rename the whole category because i think a lot of the confusion comes from the name.  &#8221;Daily Deals&#8221; sells the whole category [...]]]></summary>
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<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of daily deal bashing posts lately, and I wanted to weigh in since I think there are quite a few misconceptions floating around.</p>
<p><strong>The Name</strong></p>
<p>First, I&#8217;d like to rename the whole category because i think a lot of the confusion comes from the name.  &#8221;Daily Deals&#8221; sells the whole category short and makes the industry sound like a single scammy marketing campaign.  I would like to use the words &#8220;local ecommerce&#8221;, because what this category has done is bridge the gap between web marketing and local commerce via an online purchase.  Steve Cheney, head of BD at GroupMe, said<a href="http://stevecheney.posterous.com/why-groupon-is-worth-25-billion-dollars">&#8220;The real innovation Groupon brought to the table wasn&#8217;t in advertising deals per se, it was their ability to profit off of closing the attribution loop in online-to-offline commerce.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Yes, this has much bigger implications than discounts&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>The Value</strong></p>
<p>Second, lets take a look at the value proposition to merchants.  What do these successful &#8220;local ecommerce&#8221; sites do?  They drive traffic through the door of a local business, i.e. customer acquisition.  For web-only ecommerce businesses, you can simply go to google to buy tons traffic via adwords (and even then its still difficult).  Local merchants don&#8217;t have this option.  Adwords doesn&#8217;t work for them because there is no way to close the loop and track the conversion (thats why google wanted to buy groupon).</p>
<p>To put it simply, the local ecommerce world is about <strong>providing an on-demand source of traffic that can be tracked to the merchants door</strong>.</p>
<p>This is massively valuable to merchants!  Acquiring customers is the only way to get into business or stay in business.  This is worth (in the right situations) giving up a big portion of sales to get that traffic!  As a result, the players that are providing this at scale, GroupOn and Living Social, are growing at a formidable rate.</p>
<p><strong>The Problem</strong></p>
<p>Ok, so now that we&#8217;ve talked about the value that these services provide, lets address <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/09/groupon-single-worst-decision/">all these negative stories that we keep hearing</a> about.  Can running a deal like this cause problems?</p>
<p>Absolutely, you just have to look to the online-only marketing world to see that it is an art and a science!  A very sophisticated industry has bubbled up around SEO, SEM, and display advertising.  They offer targeting, segmenting, retargeting tools, that can be bought on CPC, CPM, and CPA basis.  It takes years to get to the point where you understand all of these options.</p>
<p>There-in lies the problem.  In two short years, the &#8220;local ecommerce&#8221; industry, has put the power of 10 years of internet marketing prowess directly into the hands of local merchants, who are new to the game.  Rocky from TechCrunch gets it right when he says <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/11/google-offers-daily-deals-business-die/  ">&#8220;The daily deals aren’t as simple as running newspaper ads. There is a lot of complexity and merchants don’t know where to turn for advice. So they get it from the deal providers.&#8221;</a> They don&#8217;t even have the tracking tools on their side to track when they&#8217;ve acquired a new customer or how much that customer is worth to them over their lifetime.</p>
<p>In short, local merchants will have a lot to learn so that they can take advantage of a medium that is much more effective and trackable than newspaper advertisements&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>The Solution</strong></p>
<p>Round one of the local ecommerce battle is over, whats next?  To overcome the problems that have cropped up subsequent rounds will focus on the following area: tracking, targeting, and merchant education.</p>
<p>You need very concrete metrics (tracking and targeting) to figure out if a marketing campaign was successful, and right now merchants don&#8217;t have those tools. Think POS systems that calculate thing like the upsell amount per discounted customer or customer lifetime value (CLV).  On the targeting front, the difference in running a successful campaign might be in working with a more targeted list, like Gilt City (luxury) or Thrillist (male) to drive the right kind of traffic.</p>
<p>The biggest key here is learning.  Even before merchants can start learning how to use these tools, they need to learn lot more about the web.  There&#8217;s a lot of catching up to do, and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see 3rd party agency like organizations popping up to represent local merchants across all these different web properties (Groupon, Yelp, Foursquare, etc)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do a follow up post to elaborate on the solutions, but the point is that local ecommerce isn&#8217;t going anywhere.  Bringing the power of the web to small local businesses is a MASSIVE opportunity, and we&#8217;ve barely seen the tip of the iceberg.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is this a daily deal sign-up page?]]></title>
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		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="Uncategorized" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Click through to see the image&#8230; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Wonder how much they A/B tested this? Too much time looking at deal sites! Tweet This Post]]></summary>
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<p>Wonder how much they A/B tested this? Too much time looking at deal sites!</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[The local (daily deal) race: self service]]></title>
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		<updated>2011-04-30T17:39:05Z</updated>
		<published>2011-05-04T10:00:22Z</published>
		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="daily deals" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="lbs" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t noticed already, theres been a lot of hype around the group buying concept. Sites are popping up like wack-a-mole, google made a huge acquisition offer, and murmurs of IPOs are in the air. Why? All the excitement is about cracking &#8220;local&#8221;, or cracking the secret to the local advertising market.  There are [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2011/05/the-local-daily-deal-race-self-service/"><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t noticed already, theres been a lot of hype around the group buying concept.  Sites are popping up like wack-a-mole, google made a huge acquisition offer, and murmurs of IPOs are in the air.  Why?</p>
<p>All the excitement is about cracking &#8220;local&#8221;, or cracking the secret to the local advertising market.  There are millions of small business merchants out there that are really passionate about what their businesses, and they want to tell the world.  Up until now they were doing things like handing out flyers, taking out ads in local publications, and paying to be in the yellow pages.  Some of the more tech savvy buyers have even tried things like google adwords, or claiming their business on yelp, but this is only the tip of the ice berg.  The vast majority of local business have not made the jump to online marketing, and here-in lies the opportunity.  The world is racing towards providing an advertising or promotion solution to the mass market of small business merchants.  Group Buying is just the first channel to break through and scale.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><a title="3 WCAP boxers medal at U.S. National Championships - FMWRC - United States Army - 100719 by familymwr, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/familymwr/4815870978/"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4815870978_e8e7d5b428_m.jpg" alt="3 WCAP boxers medal at U.S. National Championships - FMWRC - United States Army - 100719" width="240" height="160" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Self Service (technology) vs Managed Service</p></div>
<p>Now that we have an idea of what the objective is, lets take a look at the first of two major races within the worl of local; moving towards <strong>self service</strong>.  In one corner you have GroupOn, the local advertising titan.  Via a resource intensive / sales heavy strategy they went out into the market and literally pulled local merchants into the online advertising world. GroupOn structured the campaigns, wrote the copy, designed the creative, and most importantly amassed a huge distribution list via a very simple channel, email.  They acted as an agency for their own ad platform.</p>
<p>In the other corner, you&#8217;ve got Foursquare, the tech world&#8217;s darling LBS service, and one of the best product teams on the planet.  They&#8217;re going directly for the self service route by building easy to use tools for local merchants .  This is a very web / new media approach to the problem, one where &#8220;sleezy&#8221;  sales ( disclaimer, I&#8217;m a sales person, so no offense implied) people are avoided, and the simplicity of the product is all that is needed for success.</p>
<p>So how will this race play out?  As you can see in the traditional advertising world, agencies (the service layer in the middle) have only gotten stronger, so we will never get to a 100% self service model.  On the self service side, there are a variety of tools like ad sense, hubspot, and clickable that have arguably built higher margin businesses going straight to a willing consumer base.</p>
<p>The real key in how this translates into the local space is the <strong>merchant</strong>, yes the customer.  They are the most important piece of the equation, and <strong>they are not ready to become internet marketing gurus</strong>.  In the thousands of phone calls / hundreds of hours spent on the phone with local merchants while at Scoop St, I can tell you these business owners have other priorities.  They&#8217;ve got customers of their own, which are a huge hassle, and they have to manage a staff of employees on-site.  Merchants REALLY want to promote their businesses, its a natural instinct for a business owner, but they don&#8217;t have time for complicated technical solutions.  To make matters worse, its still unclear to them what the return is on these marketing schemes (will discuss in a follow on post).</p>
<p>Knowing more about the local merchant, its going to take years until they are comfortable enough to use a self service platform, my guess is at least 5 years before it reaches scale.  In the meantime, the companies who have the efficient account managers and sales people on hand to help atract merchants will continue to take the lead.  Groupon and Living Social will continue to grow, and if they&#8217;re smart they&#8217;ll try to educate merchants to use self-serve platforms.  This<strong> services layer will be key</strong>!  Value will be created by companies that can build and scale these teams, even if its 3rd party agency like teams that run campaigns for merchants across all platforms.</p>
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<p>Months of grueling technical difficulties and pitching investors has culminated in an alpha version of the product. Launch time is near! Doing everything from coding to HR, the founder is spread thin, but somehow needs to find time to get this shiny new product in front of customers.  Isn&#8217;t that what &#8220;bizdev&#8221; and sales guys do?</p>
<p>Thus begins the search for a first sales person. Depending on the amount of capital raised the first sales hire could be a business minded hustler straight out of undergrad or an experience VP of Sales with a big &#8220;rolodex&#8221; and matching base salary.  Regardless, we&#8217;ll call them SP1 (sales person 1), and SP1 is hungry.</p>
<p>Armed with the founders pitch deck (one slightly modified from the original investor pitch deck ), SP1 begins to hunt.  The excitement permeates across the whole organization as the first customers come rolling in, never mind the early adopter discounts and all the conditional feature requests. You gotta start somewhere right?</p>
<p>Maybe the momentum keeps going for a while, but someone will eventually (this could take years) notices a certain lack of pace (i.e. NO hockey stick), and attention turns towards the sales person.  Did they hire the right person?  Maybe they were too in-experienced, maybe they had too much experience and had previously been relying multi million dollar marketing campaigns to close deas? <a title="Salesman by petesimon, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/petesimon/3365916854/"><img class="alignright" title="SP1 via petesimon on flickr" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3577/3365916854_aa924351cc_m.jpg" alt="Salesman" width="118" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>Meanwhile, SP1 is acutely aware of the problem, because they spend the most time with the customers.  They&#8217;ve probably even started making product suggestions to make more sales.  Trust me, you can&#8217;t be in SP1&#8242;s position and not know there is a problem, its acute when you&#8217;re in front of customers all day.  They start to doubt themselves, but push through by doubling and trippling their efforts.  SP1 starts taking support calls at 2am on a Saturday night, and does days of training to help customers understand the product, but nothing works.</p>
<p>Tension builds between the founder and SP1.  We live in a results driven society, and clearly SP1 is not delivering.  SP1 is wondering what they could possibly doing more to sell this product? Does anyone even want this thing?  Why are things not working?  We built a product, we think its amazing, we launched it,  we hired sales people, we even did marketing?</p>
<p>These startups all ask the same questions, and this is really just the first in a series of many points of friction.  As it turns out this whole song and dance has a name, <a href="http://steveblank.com/2009/09/07/the-customer-development-manifesto-the-death-spiral-part-3/">The Startup Death Spiral</a>.  A man much smarter, and with much more experience than <a href="http://steveblank.com/">me has been writing about it for years</a>.</p>
<p>This post was just to introduce the concept, and open the door to sharing experiences about this friction.  In subsequent posts I&#8217;ll talk about how to better use sales in an organization, and how to make changes when you start seeing the death spiral!</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[SalesSchool is in Session]]></title>
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		<updated>2011-04-30T18:09:34Z</updated>
		<published>2010-12-09T04:32:21Z</published>
		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="Uncategorized" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[In case you guys missed it, Sean Black from Salescrunch (the company behind SalesSchool ) lead a great panel last night on Building a Sales Machine. What did I learn? NYC really really wants to talk about Sales! Startups in particular turned out in force to talk about the &#8220;four-letter-word&#8221; that so few seem to [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2010/12/salesschool-is-in-session/"><![CDATA[<p>In case you guys missed it, <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/seanblack">Sean Black</a> from <a href="http://www.salescrunch.com/">Salescrunch</a> (the company behind  SalesSchool ) lead a great panel last night on<a href="http://salesschool.eventbrite.com/"> Building a Sales Machine</a>.</p>
<p>What did I learn?</p>
<p><strong>NYC really really wants to talk about Sales!</strong></p>
<p>Startups in particular turned out in force to talk about the &#8220;four-letter-word&#8221; that so few seem to understand.  Sales, revenue, inbound marketing, conversion metrics, and comp plans where the topics of discussion. This is just the tip of the iceberg, so I&#8217;m looking forward to future events!<br />
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<p>Highlights:</p>
<p><strong>1) Relationships are still important</strong></p>
<p>As the world puts more and more emphasis on technology its easy to forget there are people behind the scenes making decisions.  Especially in enterprise, <a href="http://bhorowitz.com/2010/11/15/meet-the-new-enterprise-customer-he%E2%80%99s-a-lot-like-the-old-enterprise-customer/">the customer is more often then not, still the same</a>.</p>
<p>Greg Coleman ( Huffington Post ) &#8211;  &#8220;relationships matter more today than when don draper was taking people out for cocktails&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>2) Sales 2.0 &#8211; Interruption based sales is DEAD</strong></p>
<p>The modern sales person is expected to do a lot more.  They need value like-a-consultant to convert prospects into customers, while extending their reach via the web. Hubspot makes their sale people blog as part of training!</p>
<p>For startup sales the talk turned to market research, and sounded a lot like understanding <a href="http://steveblank.com/">Customer Development</a>&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>3) Comp Plans &#8211; BE CAREFUL</strong></p>
<p>This will have to be a follow-on post, but the short version was &#8211; &#8220;Money drives behavior, be careful what you ask for&#8221;.  Sales people will exploit your comp plan to max it out, make sure that the exploit generates money for your company!</p>
<p><strong>4) Hiring</strong></p>
<p>Avoid the big sites like monster, network like hell and pay referrals, don&#8217;t be afraid to use recruiters as long as you cut them off when they don&#8217;t deliver.</p>
<p><strong>5) Traits of Successful Sales people</strong></p>
<p>- genuine curiosity about clients and solving their problems<br />
- highly organized (metrics driven)<br />
- keep the ego in check, this is about the customer</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what <a href="http://shacknation.com/post/2144469921/3-salesschool-take-aways">ShackNation</a> and <a href="http://khuyi.tumblr.com/post/2138465175/what-i-learned-in-sales-school-today">Kate Huyett</a> thought about the event.</p>
<p>The Sales School Meetup page can be found <a href="http://www.meetup.com/SalesSchool/">here</a>.  Looking forward to the next chat.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Foursquare vs craigslist?]]></title>
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		<updated>2010-03-04T13:51:29Z</updated>
		<published>2010-03-04T13:51:29Z</published>
		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="apartment" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="foursquare" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="lbs" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="local" /><category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="real estate" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[You know you have a sticky service when your users start using it for things it wasn&#8217;t intended to do&#8230; What better way to find real estate than to look next to your favorite bars, cafes, and restaurants? Heck, I&#8217;d pay foursquare to see those ads for the month or two I was looking for [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2010/03/foursquare-vs-craigslist/"><![CDATA[<p>You know you have a sticky service when your users start using it for things it wasn&#8217;t intended to do&#8230;</p>
<p>What better way to find real estate than to look next to your favorite bars, cafes, and restaurants?</p>
<p>Heck, I&#8217;d pay foursquare to see those ads for the month or two I was looking for an apartment!</p>
<p>( I know it&#8217;s in French, but here&#8217;s the &#8220;tip&#8221; on foursquare for an apartment)</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Persistence, apps from anywhere]]></title>
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		<updated>2010-02-17T12:31:16Z</updated>
		<published>2010-02-17T12:22:49Z</published>
		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="Uncategorized" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[One of the greatest indicators of whether or not I end up being a long time user of certain piece of software is PERSISTENCE.  Is this piece of software accessible everywhere I want to be? These are the places I spend my time, and these are the places I need to access my apps web [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2010/02/persistnce-apps-from-anywhere/"><![CDATA[<p>One of the greatest indicators of whether or not I end up being a long time user of certain piece of software is PERSISTENCE.  Is this piece of software accessible everywhere I want to be?</p>
<p>These are the places I spend my time, and these are the places I need to access my apps</p>
<ol>
<li>web</li>
<li>mobile (apps &amp; web apps)</li>
<li>desktop</li>
<li>email</li>
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<p><strong>Example 1:</strong> <a href="http://www.evernote.com/">Evernote</a></p>
<p><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Screen-shot-2010-02-17-at-12.59.33-PM.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-773 alignnone" title="Screen shot 2010-02-17 at 12.59.33 PM" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Screen-shot-2010-02-17-at-12.59.33-PM-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve got a web app, an iphone app, a blackberry app, a bookmarklet to clip content from the browser (firefox &amp; safari), and desktop apps for mac and windows.  They are covered from almost every angle, and for those moments in between I can still send in notes via email.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Screen-shot-2010-02-17-at-1.02.19-PM.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-774 alignright" title="Screen shot 2010-02-17 at 1.02.19 PM" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Screen-shot-2010-02-17-at-1.02.19-PM.png" alt="" width="113" height="249" /></a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Example 2: </strong><a href="http://posterous.com/">Posterous</a></p>
<p>For Posterous, publishing directly from their web app was almost an after thought.  They know its a lot to ask to require someone to come to your site just to create content, so their main focus is e-mail.  E-mail is a shortcut to accessibility, and saves them the time and effort of creating apps for different platforms (even though they have a <a href="http://blog.posterous.com/the-posterous-iphone-app-is-out-picposterous">great iphone app</a> for posting pics)</p>
<p>I can create posts from Gmail, or from my mobile phone, and then I have the option to send these posts to any of the services that you see in the list here on the right.  You can set it up to auto post for to every service in your list, or you can choose on the fly by indicating the destination in the email address you use &#8221; flickr+twitter+vimeo@xxxx.posterous.com&#8221; or &#8220;posterous+flickr@xxxx.posterous.com&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not only is Posterous accessible from almost anywhere, but it actually increase your reach by tying into all these extra services.</p>
<p><strong>Example 3:</strong> <a href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/">Remember The Milk</a></p>
<p>RTM ( Remember the Milk) is a todo or task application, and what makes it so great is that<a href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/"> I have access from anywhere</a>.  Not only can I view my todos from their iphone app, mobile web app, web app, and even a few 3rd party desktop apps, but I can also add tasks via email.</p>
<p>No matter where I go, I know I can quickly jott (yes, they integrate with <a href="http://jott.com/">jott</a> too, so you can create tasks via voicemail) down reminders to do things, or look at my list of todos, which is what makes RTM so sticky.  If i needed to jot something down, and i wasn&#8217;t able to get access to the app, that would be the first step in making me into a non-user.</p>
<p>So how are you making your apps accessible from everywhere?  Is this tough to do with a small team because of the resources required to build for so many platforms?</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Buzz: public invades private]]></title>
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		<updated>2010-02-12T15:22:27Z</updated>
		<published>2010-02-12T15:22:27Z</published>
		<category scheme="http://evbart.com" term="Uncategorized" />		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[The last thing I needed was another distraction, but google didn&#8217;t give me much choice.  They dropped this little buzz bomb right into my inbox. First off, buzz is a great idea, and I can already tell it&#8217;s going to get massive traction just because of it&#8217;s location. Gmail may be the only thing I [...]]]></summary>
		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2010/02/buzz-public-invades-private/"><![CDATA[<p>The last thing I needed was another distraction, but google didn&#8217;t give me much choice.  They dropped this little buzz bomb right into my inbox.</p>
<p>First off, buzz is a great idea, and I can already tell it&#8217;s going to get massive traction just because of it&#8217;s location. Gmail may be the only thing I use significantly more than Facebook, so anything you insert into Gmail is going to get some eyeballs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s biggest advantage is also my biggest frustration. Besides being a distraction to my already growing inbox problem, it also presents a clash of my public and private worlds. Up until now gmail has remained a private safe haven.  Conversations with any new acquainances take place on Twitter and Facebook, but only progress to gmail once they&#8217;ve reached a certain threshold ( yes getting someone email on Facebook or Twitter before moving to gmail can be a barrier). Point being, buzz blows my private gmail world wide open.</p>
<p>The default settings for buzz are SUPER public, and the options for private sharing are confusing at best:</p>
<p><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Private-public.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-761" title="Private public" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Private-public.png" alt="" width="320" height="113" /></a></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/photo4.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-758" title="photo(4)" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/photo4.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="480" /></a></p>
<p>Even if I did want to make a post private, how would I choose who to share it with?  Why isn&#8217;t it an option to share with just the people you follow? Am I really going to put in the work of going through my gmail contacts to break them up into subgroups based on location, interests, or each person is a work friend, highschool friend, etc? I&#8217;ve been down that road before on Facebook and it&#8217;s a mess.</p>
<p>To make matters worse, I can&#8217;t seem to separate buzz from my public google profile and I can&#8217;t seem to turn the profile off either.  In the end, I would have preferred a buzz that operates much more like the old Facebook, just for the people I accepted as friends. Then they could have given me the option to go public with certain material, a la Twitter.</p>
<p><a href="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Evan-Bartlett-Google-Profile.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-765" title="Evan Bartlett - Google Profile" src="http://evbart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Evan-Bartlett-Google-Profile-300x244.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="244" /></a></p>
<p>So who do these 3 stack up? Facebook, buzz, and Twitter?</p>
<p>Facebook is clearly in the lead. As I recently overheard someone say; &#8220;Facebook is the new cell phone, you can&#8217;t have a social life without it&#8221;.  Facebook has a strangle hold on users, and they are not leaving for any other services anytime soon&#8230; Except buzz.</p>
<p>By catching users at the one place they go before Facebook, Google has a chance to siphon off a bunch of activity, and become an equally critical platform.  The uphill battle both of these services face is whether or not people will trade their privacy to help bring in ad revnues.  Will the new public default scare away more people than they could have gained by keeping the warm and fuzzy &#8220;friends only&#8221; settings of the early facebook days?</p>
<p>Twitter chose to &#8220;go public&#8221; from day one, so they don&#8217;t face these privacy issues, but I don&#8217;t think anyone can make the case that twitter carries the same value to individual users, or is growing nearly as fast.</p>
<p>Will public win or will people find some other refuge to have their social chats in a more private setting?</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Google is really good at UI]]></title>
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		<content type="html" xml:base="http://evbart.com/2010/02/google-is-really-good-at-ui/"><![CDATA[<p>The new Buzz mobile app trying to &#8220;sneak&#8221; it&#8217;s way on to your iPhone. Pretty smart!</p>
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