Comments for Elgin Illinois | The Elginite | Elginite.org http://elginite.org Wed, 16 May 2012 01:00:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on May open thread by Anonymous http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/8a2UzUxDEZU/ Anonymous Wed, 16 May 2012 00:56:23 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55722 While I will not attempt to defend the city council it is important to remember that there are some ground rules about public comments at the meetings. It is seldom a good idea to engage in a dialog with a presenter, the most important reason being that one individual cannot speak for the city council. That takes some preparation. The best the mayor can do is to direct someone on staff to gather info from the presenter, investigate and report to the council. But I've rarely seen them do that. There was a time when the papers would pick up on an item from a public comment and encourage the city to comment about it. Those days are gone because: 1) Readership sucks and they have less clout now. 2) The media likes the lib agenda and won't pull back the covers. Still, you deserve an answer from the city. And taking public shots at you is bad form to say the least. While I will not attempt to defend the city council it is important to remember that there are some ground rules about public comments at the meetings. It is seldom a good idea to engage in a dialog with a presenter, the most important reason being that one individual cannot speak for the city council. That takes some preparation.
The best the mayor can do is to direct someone on staff to gather info from the presenter, investigate and report to the council.
But I’ve rarely seen them do that.
There was a time when the papers would pick up on an item from a public comment and encourage the city to comment about it.
Those days are gone because:
1) Readership sucks and they have less clout now.
2) The media likes the lib agenda and won’t pull back the covers.
Still, you deserve an answer from the city. And taking public shots at you is bad form to say the least.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55722 Comment on May open thread by Terry Gavin http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/xUYtuKQeaeg/ Terry Gavin Tue, 15 May 2012 20:22:28 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55721 As usual Chuck all well stated & truthful! What this shows is the arrogance that comes from people who've got an elitist opinion of themselves, aka "liberals". Of course they think they know best how we should live & how to spend our money. Like many politician's these council people forget they work for us & we need to fire them when they forget that fact... As usual Chuck all well stated & truthful! What this shows is the arrogance that comes from people who’ve got an elitist opinion of themselves, aka “liberals”. Of course they think they know best how we should live & how to spend our money. Like many politician’s these council people forget they work for us & we need to fire them when they forget that fact…


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55721 Comment on May open thread by Chuck Keysor http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/NeLVvbLyJwE/ Chuck Keysor Tue, 15 May 2012 17:32:05 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55720 Terry, as you well know, but others may not, there is more wrong with this council than just their politics and their liberal/social/green agenda. They also can be petty if not mean about the wrong things, while having no concern for things that should bother them. I have seen people come to the council with some pretty serious charges and demands and the Mayor and Council will just sit there and take it. Yet when I spoke to the council on February 22nd to provide facts that since the Chamber of Commerce and the DNA joined with the City to do "economic development", that according to InfoUSA, Elgin has LOST 224 businesses, the Mayor chose to jump on me (verbally) and demand figures for other cities. And the mayor has told people I trust, that I do not tell the truth, when I have FOIA'd documents that show I am telling the truth. I have provided FOIA'd documents to other members of the council, that show I was telling the truth (that the Chamber of Commerce purchased the list of Elgin Businesses from InfoUSA, and that there were over 150 members of the Chamber with businesses in Elgin that were not on any of the City's list of businesses, including Elgin Sweeper. I am digressing.....) But the fact that the City can choose to be upset with me for trying to provide a voice of reasonable concern shows there is more wrong than the Council's desire to tax and spend in order to carry out their liberal/social/green agenda. Chuck Terry, as you well know, but others may not, there is more wrong with this council than just their politics and their liberal/social/green agenda. They also can be petty if not mean about the wrong things, while having no concern for things that should bother them.

I have seen people come to the council with some pretty serious charges and demands and the Mayor and Council will just sit there and take it. Yet when I spoke to the council on February 22nd to provide facts that since the Chamber of Commerce and the DNA joined with the City to do “economic development”, that according to InfoUSA, Elgin has LOST 224 businesses, the Mayor chose to jump on me (verbally) and demand figures for other cities.

And the mayor has told people I trust, that I do not tell the truth, when I have FOIA’d documents that show I am telling the truth. I have provided FOIA’d documents to other members of the council, that show I was telling the truth (that the Chamber of Commerce purchased the list of Elgin Businesses from InfoUSA, and that there were over 150 members of the Chamber with businesses in Elgin that were not on any of the City’s list of businesses, including Elgin Sweeper. I am digressing…..)

But the fact that the City can choose to be upset with me for trying to provide a voice of reasonable concern shows there is more wrong than the Council’s desire to tax and spend in order to carry out their liberal/social/green agenda. Chuck


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55720 Comment on May open thread by Terry Gavin http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/P5DX-95aMh8/ Terry Gavin Mon, 14 May 2012 22:49:03 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55718 Let's face it people of Elgin we've got an extremist radical city council. We've got a Mayor who has raised our taxes the highest in city history, a council person who's accused our Police Dept. of racism without providing ANY proof & an expansion of the size of city government during the absolute worst economy since the Great Depression! There's ONLY one way to fix this problem & that's to vote in people next April who'll do the right thing for the taxpayers/citizen's & just say NO to more government. Let’s face it people of Elgin we’ve got an extremist radical city council. We’ve got a Mayor who has raised our taxes the highest in city history, a council person who’s accused our Police Dept. of racism without providing ANY proof & an expansion of the size of city government during the absolute worst economy since the Great Depression!

There’s ONLY one way to fix this problem & that’s to vote in people next April who’ll do the right thing for the taxpayers/citizen’s & just say NO to more government.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55718 Comment on May open thread by Cruex http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/RDOOdFvw_3Y/ Cruex Mon, 14 May 2012 02:05:18 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55716 I watched the city meeting last night and saw $250,000 doled out to social services without one comment from the 5 liberals about the people who are suffering in this city the most, the middle class. I have never seen 5 more arrogant and out of touch politicians than Steffen, Kaptain, Moeller, Powell and Dunne. This is the worst city council since the boat came to Elgin. I watched the city meeting last night and saw $250,000 doled out to social services without one comment from the 5 liberals about the people who are suffering in this city the most, the middle class. I have never seen 5 more arrogant and out of touch politicians than Steffen, Kaptain, Moeller, Powell and Dunne. This is the worst city council since the boat came to Elgin.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55716 Comment on May events open thread by Mark Fry http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/ii8LBbHWmEs/ Mark Fry Sat, 12 May 2012 17:50:48 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7096#comment-55715 Elgin Chamber Players - Debut Concert Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 7:30pm Gail Borden Library 270 N Grove Ave, Elgin, IL 60120-5505 Free Admission Philip Glass - Diversions (2 flutes and bass trombone) Andras Szollosy - A Hundred Bars for Tom Everett (bass trombone and 3 bongos) J.S. Bach - 4 Two-Part Inventions (flute and dulcimer) Aubrey Stephen Tucker - Four Cantigas (flute/piccolo, bass trombone and 2 percussion) The Elgin Chamber Players premier performance of music for flute, bass trombone and percussion will feature Elgin residents and Elgin Symphony Orchestra members Scott Metlicka and Mark Fry. This exciting program will feature works by Philip Glass, Aubrey Tucker and András Szöll?sy. Mr. Metlicka and Mr. Fry will be joined by special guests Lia DeRoin and Matthew Coley on percussion and Melissa Snoza on Flute. https://www.facebook.com/events/403898386308895/ Elgin Chamber Players - Debut Concert

Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 7:30pm

Gail Borden Library
270 N Grove Ave, Elgin, IL 60120-5505

Free Admission

Philip Glass - Diversions (2 flutes and bass trombone)

Andras Szollosy - A Hundred Bars for Tom Everett (bass trombone and 3 bongos)

J.S. Bach - 4 Two-Part Inventions (flute and dulcimer)

Aubrey Stephen Tucker - Four Cantigas (flute/piccolo, bass trombone and 2 percussion)

The Elgin Chamber Players premier performance of music for flute, bass trombone and percussion will feature Elgin residents and Elgin Symphony Orchestra members Scott Metlicka and Mark Fry. This exciting program will feature works by Philip Glass, Aubrey Tucker and András Szöll?sy. Mr. Metlicka and Mr. Fry will be joined by special guests Lia DeRoin and Matthew Coley on percussion and Melissa Snoza on Flute.

https://www.facebook.com/events/403898386308895/


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-events-open-thread-2/#comment-55715 Comment on May open thread by Terry Gavin http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/nj0Stdl9RS4/ Terry Gavin Thu, 10 May 2012 12:21:20 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55712 Very well stated b4real! This Mayor & council,with the exception of Prigge, has adopted the Presidents "crony" capitalism as it's policy for governance. Much like the last Mayor Schock these guys & gals feel they know better how to spend our money then we know how to spend our own. This is the height of arrogance & is the curse of liberal politicians on We the People. Very well stated b4real! This Mayor & council,with the exception of Prigge, has adopted the Presidents “crony” capitalism as it’s policy for governance.

Much like the last Mayor Schock these guys & gals feel they know better how to spend our money then we know how to spend our own. This is the height of arrogance & is the curse of liberal politicians on We the People.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55712 Comment on Prairie Rock closes after 13-year run by JL http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/iAOz9EjBCbE/ JL Thu, 10 May 2012 02:03:48 +0000 http://elginite.org/blog/?p=894#comment-55711 When people come to the country the legal way, they will not have any issues - what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand? Every country has rules for citizenship - some governments just choose to ignore those rules and let taxpayers pay for those who feel they are "owed". Citizenship is a right, not a privilege. When people come to the country the legal way, they will not have any issues - what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand? Every country has rules for citizenship - some governments just choose to ignore those rules and let taxpayers pay for those who feel they are “owed”. Citizenship is a right, not a privilege.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2009/02/28/prairie-rock-closes-after-13-year-run/#comment-55711 Comment on May open thread by Anonymous http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/oRM5nS5y-LA/ Anonymous Wed, 09 May 2012 21:47:29 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=7085#comment-55710 Remove the giant illegal population destroying the city's economy* Remove the giant illegal population destroying the city’s economy*


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2012/05/01/may-open-thread-3/#comment-55710 Comment on Elgin casino to explore adding theater by GamingAddict http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/_etKixqdbac/ GamingAddict Wed, 09 May 2012 20:02:49 +0000 http://elginite.org/blog/2012/02/08/elgin-casino-to-explore-adding-theater/#comment-55709 Don't see why this would be a good long-term move for Elgin anyway. Casino revenue hasn't helped Elgin the past 20 years obviously.Elgin's gone from good to bad to worse since it came. Much the same way Detroit did, when it got a casino right around the same time. It's bad for us, it'll be bad for Des Plaines and the surrounding area...the sooner GV's gone the sooner Elgin can move forward. Don’t see why this would be a good long-term move for Elgin anyway. Casino revenue hasn’t helped Elgin the past 20 years obviously.Elgin’s gone from good to bad to worse since it came. Much the same way Detroit did, when it got a casino right around the same time. It’s bad for us, it’ll be bad for Des Plaines and the surrounding area…the sooner GV’s gone the sooner Elgin can move forward.


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