Comments for Elgin Illinois | The Elginite | Elginite.org http://elginite.org Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:18:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Tania http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/avuuOKtjXy4/ Tania Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:17:19 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49243 Hey all, my friend and I think we know who Boxcar is, when we went to the forums last year to watch Emi, there were always two guys that showed up and sat by themselves. One guy was fat, with short pants and white socks and never had anyone with him. The other guy was skinny and acted like a complete geek, and also never had anyone with him. My friend thinks it's a guy named Richard that ran for a public office a long time ago that turned everyone off and lost. I know that unions often times bring managers into Human Resources for picking on employees, and most of the time, managers don't bother other workers due to their feelings of one! We have an idea for all of you, since this guy always shoots off his mouth on this blog without much knowledge, most likely the same one that never talks to anyone at the forums, what we should all do is completely ignore him. Everyone should let this guy dry out and stop wasting your energy on him. When he blogs, don't respond, just skip to the next poster. Let Boxcar enjoy his own posts in his shallow existance, without any of our imput. We have noticed most feed his desire to stir things up, he likes it when he gets or thinks he stirs people up. So, lets give it a try, everyone should completely ignore Boxcar posts without responding to him, and he will have nothing to feed off of while he watches the rest discuss issues without any of his input and shallow remarks. Move on to the next post or topic and skip his! Hey all, my friend and I think we know who Boxcar is, when we went to the forums last year to watch Emi, there were always two guys that showed up and sat by themselves. One guy was fat, with short pants and white socks and never had anyone with him. The other guy was skinny and acted like a complete geek, and also never had anyone with him. My friend thinks it’s a guy named Richard that ran for a public office a long time ago that turned everyone off and lost. I know that unions often times bring managers into Human Resources for picking on employees, and most of the time, managers don’t bother other workers due to their feelings of one! We have an idea for all of you, since this guy always shoots off his mouth on this blog without much knowledge, most likely the same one that never talks to anyone at the forums, what we should all do is completely ignore him. Everyone should let this guy dry out and stop wasting your energy on him. When he blogs, don’t respond, just skip to the next poster. Let Boxcar enjoy his own posts in his shallow existance, without any of our imput. We have noticed most feed his desire to stir things up, he likes it when he gets or thinks he stirs people up. So, lets give it a try, everyone should completely ignore Boxcar posts without responding to him, and he will have nothing to feed off of while he watches the rest discuss issues without any of his input and shallow remarks. Move on to the next post or topic and skip his!


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49243 Comment on March open thread by Gibster http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/UtN1JLup3kA/ Gibster Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:57:04 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2586#comment-49241 Good for you to post your progress in Blog format Clarence, also glad to see you and the wife got ahead in the radio contest! (keep the successes going!) I lost 116 pounds in 2002, and I've kept about 80 of those pounds OFF over 8-years. It's such a freeing feeling to re-learn how to live your life and treat your body right. The Mental and Physical exercises become routine and so much normal after time. Keeping a Journal/Blog while on this journey will greatly help you, I know it did for me as well. Let me realize if I could lose all that weight, 5lb by 5lb I got a little bit more of freedom and energy back to my life. ;) Go get 'em! Good for you to post your progress in Blog format Clarence, also glad to see you and the wife got ahead in the radio contest! (keep the successes going!)

I lost 116 pounds in 2002, and I’ve kept about 80 of those pounds OFF over 8-years. It’s such a freeing feeling to re-learn how to live your life and treat your body right. The Mental and Physical exercises become routine and so much normal after time. Keeping a Journal/Blog while on this journey will greatly help you, I know it did for me as well. Let me realize if I could lose all that weight, 5lb by 5lb I got a little bit more of freedom and energy back to my life. ;)

Go get ‘em!


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/01/march-open-thread/#comment-49241 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by The Better Half http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/RkvjQ0sEaTA/ The Better Half Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:05:17 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49240 Boxcar, Given that you are so quick to point out spelling/grammatical errors in others, perhaps spellcheck is in order for you? 'Retaliation' not 'retalliation'..... TBH Boxcar,

Given that you are so quick to point out spelling/grammatical errors in others, perhaps spellcheck is in order for you? ‘Retaliation’ not ‘retalliation’…..

TBH


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49240 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Carrie http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/uqGdae_q9gs/ Carrie Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:43:45 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49239 Well, then, Boxcar, if the stress comment is meant for my response, I would just say this - enjoy being a follower wherever your boss may lead you. It seems to me that convictions about beliefs and values demonstrated in a legal, protected and appropriately articulated way would be a personality trait that would translate nicely into a work environment. It shows a willingness to stand up for what an employee believes in, regardless of the higher authority that others, like you, might be intimidated by. To me, it exhibits the qualities of a leader. Leaders aren't intimidated by what might happen, they are inspired by it - whatever 'it' might be. Well, then, Boxcar, if the stress comment is meant for my response, I would just say this - enjoy being a follower wherever your boss may lead you. It seems to me that convictions about beliefs and values demonstrated in a legal, protected and appropriately articulated way would be a personality trait that would translate nicely into a work environment. It shows a willingness to stand up for what an employee believes in, regardless of the higher authority that others, like you, might be intimidated by. To me, it exhibits the qualities of a leader. Leaders aren’t intimidated by what might happen, they are inspired by it - whatever ‘it’ might be.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49239 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Boxcar http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/yXfN4zDe1gE/ Boxcar Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:54:56 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49238 It sounds like you are doing more hoping than predicting. Personally, I couldn't take the stress for the rest of my career wondering. It sounds like you are doing more hoping than predicting. Personally, I couldn’t take the stress for the rest of my career wondering.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49238 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Carrie http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/KK96E7n0CHw/ Carrie Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:59:19 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49236 Because I'm sure management at the city and/or police department feels the need to dedicate that kind of attention to something you just implied is trivial matter, anyway (speaking up for the family pet). Seems to me the city has bigger issues to address than employees exercising their rights, Boxcar. I'm going to give city management more credit than that ... and feel sorry for whomever you supervise (if anyone). Because I’m sure management at the city and/or police department feels the need to dedicate that kind of attention to something you just implied is trivial matter, anyway (speaking up for the family pet). Seems to me the city has bigger issues to address than employees exercising their rights, Boxcar. I’m going to give city management more credit than that … and feel sorry for whomever you supervise (if anyone).


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49236 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Boxcar http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/w1mO96020Eg/ Boxcar Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:17:22 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49235 "My wife and dog wake up when I need to go to the bathroom, and we all fall asleep again." Touching. I can only imagine how warm and fuzzy that would make a voter feel at the ballot box. “My wife and dog wake up when I need to go to the bathroom, and we all fall asleep again.”

Touching. I can only imagine how warm and fuzzy that would make a voter feel at the ballot box.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49235 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Boxcar http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/qhiZK41tuj4/ Boxcar Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:09:58 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49234 For certain, city employees do have a right to protest as citizens. However, who would risk retalliation in their job over a family pet, especially in this economy when their employer has already made cuts in their department? There are many ways an employee can be punished for the over the line behavior that does not involve union protection. Pesky little things like being one minute late or being disciplned for not turning off a light are really harrassment points but are within the rights of the employer and difficult to get union help on. Innocent, good fellow employees can also feel the pain because of a co-workers behavior and isn't that what the pitbull owner complained about? Being lumped in with bad owners? Irony. For certain, city employees do have a right to protest as citizens. However, who would risk retalliation in their job over a family pet, especially in this economy when their employer has already made cuts in their department?

There are many ways an employee can be punished for the over the line behavior that does not involve union protection. Pesky little things like being one minute late or being disciplned for not turning off a light are really harrassment points but are within the rights of the employer and difficult to get union help on.

Innocent, good fellow employees can also feel the pain because of a co-workers behavior and isn’t that what the pitbull owner complained about? Being lumped in with bad owners? Irony.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/11/council-backs-down-again-on-pit-bull-rules/#comment-49234 Comment on March open thread by Common Sense Clarence Hayward http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/2xSwN_NO53g/ Common Sense Clarence Hayward Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:01:37 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2586#comment-49233 It might be better to go to www.lauradionjones.com and click on her blog towards the bottom right to read not only my challenges trying to win the weight loss contest but hopefully some of my challengers will share their thoughts as well. I believe I have given a couple of them motivation because of who I have supported or not supported in local political elections in the past and recent past. It might be better to go to http://www.lauradionjones.com and click on her blog towards the bottom right to read not only my challenges trying to win the weight loss contest but hopefully some of my challengers will share their thoughts as well.

I believe I have given a couple of them motivation because of who I have supported or not supported in local political elections in the past and recent past.


]]> http://elginite.org/blog/2010/03/01/march-open-thread/#comment-49233 Comment on Council backs down again on pit bull rules by Michelle http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/elginitecomments/~3/LnwCPHHk4Co/ Michelle Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:04:30 +0000 http://elginite.org/?p=2590#comment-49232 <b>RS:</b> I'm disappointed that you consider unwarranted, mandatory muzzling for an entire group of dogs "entirely appropriate and necessary". Especially when you have, in the past, criticized <i>hasty legislation</i>, and <i>knee-jerk reactions</i>, calling for the <i>application of wisdom</i> and <i>legislation that is both just and moderate</i>. A true understanding of responsible dog ownership includes the knowledge that dogs require exercise and socialization for their health, well-being, and balance. Not to mention, quality of life. Muzzling <i>significantly</i> hinders that. Also, did you ever consider how sinister and dangerous looking a dog is with a muzzle? With so many people already uneducated about 'pits' and fearful, all that does is perpetuate a myth. The new ordinance is much stronger with regard to the true dangerous and vicious dogs out there-- no matter what breed they are. Dogsbite.org is a website created by a woman who was an unfortunate victim of a dog attack and a vehicle for hysterical propaganda. Her main sources of data for her "studies" include Merritt Clifton (another propagandizer) and <i>Google news</i>. She presents no actual methodology: delimitations, assumptions, tools used for quantitative <i>and</i> qualitative results, analysis and interpretation, and in particular, findings on causation. As far as your comment on collecting statistics, the AVMA clarifies that "to infer any breed-specific risk for dog bite fatalities (e.g., neither pit bull-type dogs nor Rottweilers can be said to be more “dangerous” than any other breed...). it would be necessary to know the numbers of each breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available. Furthermore, "singling out one or two breeds for control can result in a <b>false sense of accomplishment</b>. Doing so ignores the true scope of the problem and will not result in a responsible approach to protecting a community's citizens." The AKC also opposes BSL for its unfairness and ineffectiveness in wide-range protection. The Herald article mentions: "In 2007, there were 142 reported dog bites in Elgin, followed by 120 in 2008. The tally dropped to 113 in 2009, and there have been nine so far this year. Danger: Restrictions can apply if any dog attacks or bites" Needless to say, I'm grateful the council had the "courage", did the right thing and adopted an ordinance that will better serve in the protection of <i>everyone</i>, and their pets. RS:

I’m disappointed that you consider unwarranted, mandatory muzzling for an entire group of dogs “entirely appropriate and necessary”.

Especially when you have, in the past, criticized hasty legislation, and knee-jerk reactions, calling for the application of wisdom and legislation that is both just and moderate.

A true understanding of responsible dog ownership includes the knowledge that dogs require exercise and socialization for their health, well-being, and balance. Not to mention, quality of life. Muzzling significantly hinders that.

Also, did you ever consider how sinister and dangerous looking a dog is with a muzzle? With so many people already uneducated about ‘pits’ and fearful, all that does is perpetuate a myth.

The new ordinance is much stronger with regard to the true dangerous and vicious dogs out there– no matter what breed they are.

Dogsbite.org is a website created by a woman who was an unfortunate victim of a dog attack and a vehicle for hysterical propaganda. Her main sources of data for her “studies” include Merritt Clifton (another propagandizer) and Google news.

She presents no actual methodology:
delimitations, assumptions, tools used for quantitative and qualitative results, analysis and interpretation, and in particular, findings on causation.

As far as your comment on collecting statistics, the AVMA clarifies that “to infer any breed-specific risk for dog bite fatalities (e.g., neither pit bull-type dogs nor Rottweilers can be said to be more “dangerous” than any other breed…). it would be necessary to know the numbers of each breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available.

Furthermore, “singling out one or two breeds for control can result in a false sense of accomplishment. Doing so ignores the true scope of the problem and will not result in a responsible approach to protecting a community’s citizens.”

The AKC also opposes BSL for its unfairness and ineffectiveness in wide-range protection.

The Herald article mentions:
“In 2007, there were 142 reported dog bites in Elgin, followed by 120 in 2008. The tally dropped to 113 in 2009, and there have been nine so far this year.

Danger: Restrictions can apply if any dog attacks or bites”

Needless to say, I’m grateful the council had the “courage”, did the right thing and adopted an ordinance that will better serve in the protection of everyone, and their pets.


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