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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Including Children &amp; Young People in Worship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Including Children &amp; Young People in Worship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Possible Solutions: Options for Worship [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Children’s Talk: Critiquing Current Practice by Pete Lev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Lev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIll Willemon has a post on "children's sermons" that's interesing: &lt;a href="http://willimon.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-children-come.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://willimon.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-children...&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIll Willemon has a post on &quot;children&#039;s sermons&quot; that&#039;s interesing: <a href="http://willimon.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-children-come.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://willimon.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-children.." rel="nofollow">http://willimon.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-children..</a>.</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside - whatever happened to the worship band at Spurgeon's? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside &#8211; whatever happened to the worship band at Spurgeon&#039;s?</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have some adults voting with their feet too when it's an all age service but they are in the minority. These folk don't stay away from every other service though when the first 30mins is given over to all age worship. Unfortunately as that well known saying goes 'you can't please all of the people all of the time'!  
 
Surely the adults can see the benefit of discipling the young people in their walk with God, after all the changes don't necessarily have to be too huge in order to make worship accessible to young people. Sure they may want more modern music, but they have to respect the preferences of older folk too i.e. there needs to be a mix. However simple steps like making sure the language in prayers and teaching is 'child friendly' goes a long way. Also asking the children/young people to write prayers or dramatise a bible reading (this could just be by different voices reading the speech of different 'characters' - it doesn't require acting or costumes!!) helps them to think about what they are doing &amp; why. I know I am out of touch with the congregation at Spurgeon's but surely these steps are not that radical? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have some adults voting with their feet too when it&#039;s an all age service but they are in the minority. These folk don&#039;t stay away from every other service though when the first 30mins is given over to all age worship. Unfortunately as that well known saying goes &#039;you can&#039;t please all of the people all of the time&#039;!  </p>
<p>Surely the adults can see the benefit of discipling the young people in their walk with God, after all the changes don&#039;t necessarily have to be too huge in order to make worship accessible to young people. Sure they may want more modern music, but they have to respect the preferences of older folk too i.e. there needs to be a mix. However simple steps like making sure the language in prayers and teaching is &#039;child friendly&#039; goes a long way. Also asking the children/young people to write prayers or dramatise a bible reading (this could just be by different voices reading the speech of different &#039;characters&#039; &#8211; it doesn&#039;t require acting or costumes!!) helps them to think about what they are doing &amp; why. I know I am out of touch with the congregation at Spurgeon&#039;s but surely these steps are not that radical?</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by piglet56</title>
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		<dc:creator>piglet56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know your reasoning, I like option 2 as well. All the best! 
 
Hetty (always available for international guest appearances and consults) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know your reasoning, I like option 2 as well. All the best! </p>
<p>Hetty (always available for international guest appearances and consults)</p>

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		<title>Comment on Segregated for Worship by Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitter Digest for for 2010-06-13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Ricky Rew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Rew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe - thanks Angela.  I've had similar thoughts to this, about a specific kids/young people's service.  Also wondered if we could have the children/young people out early once a month for a separate worship time, but I'm not sure that would help. It would solve the problem of the children's talk, but I think it's really important that we worship together. 
 
Totally agree with your second paragraph - but it's not quite that simple. We all know what adults are like ;o)  Every two months we have a service which is aimed at young people, but sadly some adults still vote with their feet and regularly stay away. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe &#8211; thanks Angela.  I&#039;ve had similar thoughts to this, about a specific kids/young people&#039;s service.  Also wondered if we could have the children/young people out early once a month for a separate worship time, but I&#039;m not sure that would help. It would solve the problem of the children&#039;s talk, but I think it&#039;s really important that we worship together. </p>
<p>Totally agree with your second paragraph &#8211; but it&#039;s not quite that simple. We all know what adults are like ;o)  Every two months we have a service which is aimed at young people, but sadly some adults still vote with their feet and regularly stay away.</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Hetty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My initial reaction was to go with option two, however reading your perception of how much work it would entail makes me think that a more cautious approach would be better. 
 
When things are radically changed people often get behind it with enthusiasm and energy. Then a year or so down the track it's a one man show (probably a one Ricky show in this instance).  
 
If you were to choose this path, may I suggest you put  in place practices that will avoid people giving up on it after a while.  
 
What about making the changes outlined in option one, evaluating in 3 months, then looking at option two again. You may find that the new-look 'spot' is acheiving some of the outcomes you want from option two.  
 
By the way, why do you prefer option two? In your intro you said if it's the right thing we should go ahead, not letting practicalities stand in our way. On what basis do you believe option two to be the right action? 
 
Still your biggest faraway fan! 
Hetty </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My initial reaction was to go with option two, however reading your perception of how much work it would entail makes me think that a more cautious approach would be better. </p>
<p>When things are radically changed people often get behind it with enthusiasm and energy. Then a year or so down the track it&#039;s a one man show (probably a one Ricky show in this instance).  </p>
<p>If you were to choose this path, may I suggest you put  in place practices that will avoid people giving up on it after a while.  </p>
<p>What about making the changes outlined in option one, evaluating in 3 months, then looking at option two again. You may find that the new-look &#039;spot&#039; is acheiving some of the outcomes you want from option two.  </p>
<p>By the way, why do you prefer option two? In your intro you said if it&#039;s the right thing we should go ahead, not letting practicalities stand in our way. On what basis do you believe option two to be the right action? </p>
<p>Still your biggest faraway fan!<br />
Hetty</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't envy your job on this issue! 
 
Being even more radical - you could combine options 2 &amp; 3. Why not go for option 2 on a weekly basis &amp; then once a month have a time of worship as per option 3. This need not replace the morning service but could be at an alternative time i.e. early evening. 
 
As for alienating the adults - how do they know they don't like something if they've never tried it? Also worship should be 'God centered' not 'me centered'. It's not 'will I enjoy this style of worship' but rather 'does this enable me to build my relationship with God' that is important.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t envy your job on this issue! </p>
<p>Being even more radical &#8211; you could combine options 2 &amp; 3. Why not go for option 2 on a weekly basis &amp; then once a month have a time of worship as per option 3. This need not replace the morning service but could be at an alternative time i.e. early evening. </p>
<p>As for alienating the adults &#8211; how do they know they don&#039;t like something if they&#039;ve never tried it? Also worship should be &#039;God centered&#039; not &#039;me centered&#039;. It&#039;s not &#039;will I enjoy this style of worship&#039; but rather &#039;does this enable me to build my relationship with God&#039; that is important.</p>

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		<title>Comment on Options for Worship by Ricky Rew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky Rew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little more on children &amp; young people worshipping: 
 
Children and young people should be encouraged to worship 'in spirit and truth' - developing their own authentic worshipful responses to the Lord. Whilst they can learn how to worship from the example of adults, there is also the danger that this may inhibit their own desire to worship more authentically. Spurgeons is fairly conservative in its worship (somehow that seems like an oxymoron when it written down, but I hope you know what I mean), and so having grown up at Spurgeons I find my natural response in worship is also fairly conservative.  There is real value in young people having their own space to worship too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little more on children &amp; young people worshipping: </p>
<p>Children and young people should be encouraged to worship &#039;in spirit and truth&#039; &#8211; developing their own authentic worshipful responses to the Lord. Whilst they can learn how to worship from the example of adults, there is also the danger that this may inhibit their own desire to worship more authentically. Spurgeons is fairly conservative in its worship (somehow that seems like an oxymoron when it written down, but I hope you know what I mean), and so having grown up at Spurgeons I find my natural response in worship is also fairly conservative.  There is real value in young people having their own space to worship too.</p>

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