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Comment on The Rays’ Best Pitcher May Be Out For The Season by Sarah

Sarah — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:11:23 +0000

Chemistry is garbage. When teams win, they find a way to like eachother. When they lose, they don’t.

Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: No Miracle From Myers by Don

Don — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:36:13 +0000

They brought a “savior” and three rookie pitches into the Shark Tank(s)….the rest will be history….

Comment on It’s Scary How Much Wil Myers’ Swing Looks Like Evan Longoria’s Swing by Don

Don — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:23:11 +0000

Still swings from down to up…thus many fly balls, off the bottom ground balls and misses….
Show Zobrist or somebody like Ellsbury (both level)….vs Myers…..you will see the difference, or just show Myers base hit (line drive)…big difference..

Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: No Miracle From Myers by J 2.0

J 2.0 — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:12:14 +0000

We have a lot of arms in the farms. Also Arizona does too, so replacing Price is not the issue. Goldscmidt’s contract breaks down as follows:

2014: $1.1 million
2015: $3.1 million
2016: $5.87 million (New tv contract expected around this time)
2017: $8.87 million
2018: $11.1 million
2019: $14.1 million

Keep in mind we are paying Price $10 million. So that opens $9 million for free agents in 2014. Also for the production Goldschmidt has and is expected to churn out, his 2019 team option is even a steal. This move is the textbook definition of a Rays move.

I have outlined a thorough intelligent argument. I am still waiting to hear who you think the Rays should get in return for Price.

Comment on It’s Scary How Much Wil Myers’ Swing Looks Like Evan Longoria’s Swing by Mark

Mark — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:58:14 +0000

I think it’s important to note that although their swings look similar, that doesnt mean we can expect Longoria-type production from Myers. Maddon and Friedman have always praised Longoria’s ability to pick up the pitches from the pitcher’s hand and spin. Plus, you have to account for the mental adjustments batters have to go through. Myers is untested on both of these accounts.

Still, it is a pretty swing for a RH hitter…

Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: No Miracle From Myers by Mr. Smith 1980

Mr. Smith 1980 — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:56:32 +0000

Agreed. But the 6MM/year would represent 9-12% of the Rays payroll and they’d still have to find/pay a replacement for Price.

Not a Rays-esque move. Not gonna happen.

Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: No Miracle From Myers by J 2.0

J 2.0 — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:46:26 +0000

We’re talking about the Rays here. We wouldn’t be considering trading Price if we paid big contracts to big time players. So we have to not only factor in talent when trading Price, we also have to factor in money.

Price will not be traded for an established star of equal service time because those players are very expensive. So, you look for guys with small impressive samples sizes with plenty of control. Mike Trout, no way the angels ever trade Trout, but with that said even if they did his arbitration years would kill us very quickly and we would be talking about “Who are we going to trade Trout for?” in no time. So you have to take guys like that off of the table.

That brings us to a guy like Goldschmidt. Great production in a small sample size with plenty of control left. I would take a guy like this all day long over another “top prospect” that you hope puts up similar numbers. Right now we are all currently “hoping” that Myers can put up comparable numbers to Goldschmidt.

Arizona has a good farm, and are ok with parting with top talent, Justin Upton. Can they afford Price? Yet to be seen. Would they part with Goldschmidt? Maybe. But I think we can all agree a power hitting 1B that hits .300 + and can swipe some bags is a need for any team. Even the Yankees.

Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: No Miracle From Myers by Mr. Smith 1980

Mr. Smith 1980 — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:12 +0000

Your putting his numbers from less than 50% of one season against players who have statistically proven themselves to be good/great over multiple seasons.

Of course I would like to have Goldschmidt, but not at the price of… Price. That’s lunacy!

His career numbers (which are still made of a relatively small sample size- i.e. less than 2 full seasons (263 games)) do not support the comparison to superstars.

If every player who had a stellar first 45% of a season was able to maintain that level then there’d be 2000 more people in the H.O.F.

Comment on The Rays’ Best Pitcher May Be Out For The Season by JJ

JJ — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:56:58 +0000

Totally agree Gus. With the uncertain status of Price and Cobb our pitching won’t overpower other clubs as it has in the past. Furthermore, with Shields gone we no longer have a true clubhouse leader.
Somebody on the club has to fit into that role. Right now the Rays team chemistry looks flat. We need a Gomes, C. Floyd type of ballplayer to challenge the young kids.

Comment on The Rays’ Best Pitcher May Be Out For The Season by Beth

Beth — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:32:13 +0000

I dunno – seems to me that a political speech is “it will take weeks.” Saying he may not be back this season suggests ongoing concerns.

I feel awful for him and the team. It’s not like this is a guy who makes millions and has already secured his financial future.