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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Dave L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In late game losses, this hindsight bullpen management is really for simpleton baseball fans. To categorically say manager SHOULD have done &quot;X&quot; instead is just silly.

Who knows what would have been the outcome?

But one thing is certain if the manager had done &quot;X&quot; instead, and it failed, those same hindsight bullpen managers would be OUTRAGED that that stupid manager didn&#039;t do &quot;Y&quot;

Its all so easy in hindsight to those &quot;experts&quot; who know our pen better than a management group with a proven track record of success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In late game losses, this hindsight bullpen management is really for simpleton baseball fans. To categorically say manager SHOULD have done &#8220;X&#8221; instead is just silly.</p>
<p>Who knows what would have been the outcome?</p>
<p>But one thing is certain if the manager had done &#8220;X&#8221; instead, and it failed, those same hindsight bullpen managers would be OUTRAGED that that stupid manager didn&#8217;t do &#8220;Y&#8221;</p>
<p>Its all so easy in hindsight to those &#8220;experts&#8221; who know our pen better than a management group with a proven track record of success.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Mr. Smith 1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith 1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@S- you said yourself that dude was 0-4.  Statistics tell us that the next AB is more than likely a hit... along that same logic; a guy who is hitless is due and a guy who&#039;s is raking is due for an out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@S- you said yourself that dude was 0-4.  Statistics tell us that the next AB is more than likely a hit&#8230; along that same logic; a guy who is hitless is due and a guy who&#8217;s is raking is due for an out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rays To Wear Camo On Memorial Day by Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I know is that the Rays will lose this game - they always lose games when wearing funky uniforms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is that the Rays will lose this game &#8211; they always lose games when wearing funky uniforms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don, you love to play the “what if” game.  Here’s my version.

Picture Josh Hamilton if he had been given a long term deal here instead of being cut.  He would have been a millionaire crackhead!!!!!   It took hitting rock (pun intended) for him to wake up.

Picture re-signing Carl Crawford batting .260 with little to no speed, and contributing nothing, even on defense, while earning $40 million over those two years.

Picture BJ Upton finally getting a long term deal, and completely laying down and batting .160 while making $15 million a year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, you love to play the “what if” game.  Here’s my version.</p>
<p>Picture Josh Hamilton if he had been given a long term deal here instead of being cut.  He would have been a millionaire crackhead!!!!!   It took hitting rock (pun intended) for him to wake up.</p>
<p>Picture re-signing Carl Crawford batting .260 with little to no speed, and contributing nothing, even on defense, while earning $40 million over those two years.</p>
<p>Picture BJ Upton finally getting a long term deal, and completely laying down and batting .160 while making $15 million a year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Geoff Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of those markets have homes for sale and apartments for rent, why don&#039;t you move to one of them Donny Doom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of those markets have homes for sale and apartments for rent, why don&#8217;t you move to one of them Donny Doom?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my bad the ninth wasn’t two outs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad the ninth wasn’t two outs</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my bad the ninth wasn&#039;t two outs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad the ninth wasn&#8217;t two outs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KT,
&quot;Bautista didn’t win the game there, he tied it, but you take that chance every time.&quot;

he would have been putting the tying run on first.  go back to the Hamilton situation.  he walked Hamilton to make it 7-4 and put the tying runner on first.  both in the 9th inning.

what&#039;s more &quot;unconventional&quot;?  BOTH involve walking the tying run with two outs in the 9th, BOTH were made by the same manager.

as far as the game ending hit,  we are a sabermetrics-matchup team, we live by it and we die by it. 
 VS TB 269,.375OBP, 423SLG vs .440, 515OBP,.800SLG,
0-4 vs 3-3 with two HRs

instead of playing the OBVIOUS numbers, Joe went with his gut, and completely shit the bed.  then his best excuse was he didn&#039;t want to put pressure on the VETERAN(former closer).  there&#039;s no second guessing, Joe Maddens decisions cost us that game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KT,<br />
&#8220;Bautista didn’t win the game there, he tied it, but you take that chance every time.&#8221;</p>
<p>he would have been putting the tying run on first.  go back to the Hamilton situation.  he walked Hamilton to make it 7-4 and put the tying runner on first.  both in the 9th inning.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s more &#8220;unconventional&#8221;?  BOTH involve walking the tying run with two outs in the 9th, BOTH were made by the same manager.</p>
<p>as far as the game ending hit,  we are a sabermetrics-matchup team, we live by it and we die by it.<br />
 VS TB 269,.375OBP, 423SLG vs .440, 515OBP,.800SLG,<br />
0-4 vs 3-3 with two HRs</p>
<p>instead of playing the OBVIOUS numbers, Joe went with his gut, and completely shit the bed.  then his best excuse was he didn&#8217;t want to put pressure on the VETERAN(former closer).  there&#8217;s no second guessing, Joe Maddens decisions cost us that game.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re talking about 2 separate innings here Chief. I&#039;m referring to not putting the winning run up to the plate in Encarnacion, in the 9th. Bautista didn&#039;t win the game there, he tied it, but you take that chance every time. As far as the 10th goes, I agree, the winning runs were already on base, better be careful with Bautista.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re talking about 2 separate innings here Chief. I&#8217;m referring to not putting the winning run up to the plate in Encarnacion, in the 9th. Bautista didn&#8217;t win the game there, he tied it, but you take that chance every time. As far as the 10th goes, I agree, the winning runs were already on base, better be careful with Bautista.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he has had ONE good game against us this year and was 0-4 last night.  Bautista was on FIRE last night.  no hindsight needed there.  every one in the bar I was in was yelling &quot;walk him&quot;, but hey they may have been a little more the merlot in their glasses

let&#039;s see, pitch to the guys who is killing it tonight or the guy who is hitless tonight?  load the bases with 2 outs, so that you have a play at any base or pitch to Bautista.  A hit wins the game in either situation.  

Again, he didn’t want to “put pressure” on his VETERAN pitcher, who was a CLOSER for years, by loading the bases in the ninth.  Are you freaking kidding me.   Translated “I wasn’t sure that Kyle could throw strikes.”  If Kyle Farnsworth can’t handle that situation, then he shouldn’t be here.  If he’s not capable of a strikeout or ball in play, and walks a guy to end the game, then Joe should have someone else in that roster spot.

Instead Joe chose to pitch to a guy that was 3-3 with ALL of their RBI’s including 2HRs, vs a batter that was 0-4.  THIS LOSS FALLS DIRECTLY INTO JOE MADDON’S LAP.   Hell he made the decision TWICE!!!  Plain and simple, he was scared of his pitcher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he has had ONE good game against us this year and was 0-4 last night.  Bautista was on FIRE last night.  no hindsight needed there.  every one in the bar I was in was yelling &#8220;walk him&#8221;, but hey they may have been a little more the merlot in their glasses</p>
<p>let&#8217;s see, pitch to the guys who is killing it tonight or the guy who is hitless tonight?  load the bases with 2 outs, so that you have a play at any base or pitch to Bautista.  A hit wins the game in either situation.  </p>
<p>Again, he didn’t want to “put pressure” on his VETERAN pitcher, who was a CLOSER for years, by loading the bases in the ninth.  Are you freaking kidding me.   Translated “I wasn’t sure that Kyle could throw strikes.”  If Kyle Farnsworth can’t handle that situation, then he shouldn’t be here.  If he’s not capable of a strikeout or ball in play, and walks a guy to end the game, then Joe should have someone else in that roster spot.</p>
<p>Instead Joe chose to pitch to a guy that was 3-3 with ALL of their RBI’s including 2HRs, vs a batter that was 0-4.  THIS LOSS FALLS DIRECTLY INTO JOE MADDON’S LAP.   Hell he made the decision TWICE!!!  Plain and simple, he was scared of his pitcher.</p>
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