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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Mr. Smith 1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith 1980</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rob- but your likening the possible hitting scenarios to an A/B coin flip.  There are other factors involved in getting a hit beyond hit or no hit.  
Averages are there to show you that player A gets a hit 3 out of 10 at bats, so if he&#039;s missed his opportunity to hit the last 4 or 5 times then his hitting history/batting average shows that he will, per his stats, be due for a hit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rob- but your likening the possible hitting scenarios to an A/B coin flip.  There are other factors involved in getting a hit beyond hit or no hit.<br />
Averages are there to show you that player A gets a hit 3 out of 10 at bats, so if he&#8217;s missed his opportunity to hit the last 4 or 5 times then his hitting history/batting average shows that he will, per his stats, be due for a hit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Dave L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes rewatch the pitch! It was supposed to be outside not center cut.

Start watching where Molina lines up at the last second and you will start learning where the pitches are supposed to go

He had a full count. It wasn&#039;t 3-0

But just go on seeing what you want to see instead, that safer  than reality.

You are right Maddon signaled in a grooved fastball over the plate and Molina relayed it to Rodney who complied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes rewatch the pitch! It was supposed to be outside not center cut.</p>
<p>Start watching where Molina lines up at the last second and you will start learning where the pitches are supposed to go</p>
<p>He had a full count. It wasn&#8217;t 3-0</p>
<p>But just go on seeing what you want to see instead, that safer  than reality.</p>
<p>You are right Maddon signaled in a grooved fastball over the plate and Molina relayed it to Rodney who complied.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by Scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings Rays fans,

A completely different request: I will be visiting the TB area for my one and only visit of Florida in mid-June. The objective is to attend Rays games during the Orioles-Red Sox-Royals homestand. I&#039;m seeking the ultimate TB Rays fan experience. I don&#039;t mind spending money (e.g., sitting behind home plate), but I don&#039;t want to be ripped off.  I&#039;m also happy to sit high above and see the action at angles one rarely sees on TV. So can you folks either recommend best locations and best ways to purchase tickets (I&#039;ve had great results with scalpers on game day at Mariners games). If this is not an appropriate place for such a discussion, can you recommend a website/forum might serve me best.

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Rays fans,</p>
<p>A completely different request: I will be visiting the TB area for my one and only visit of Florida in mid-June. The objective is to attend Rays games during the Orioles-Red Sox-Royals homestand. I&#8217;m seeking the ultimate TB Rays fan experience. I don&#8217;t mind spending money (e.g., sitting behind home plate), but I don&#8217;t want to be ripped off.  I&#8217;m also happy to sit high above and see the action at angles one rarely sees on TV. So can you folks either recommend best locations and best ways to purchase tickets (I&#8217;ve had great results with scalpers on game day at Mariners games). If this is not an appropriate place for such a discussion, can you recommend a website/forum might serve me best.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;To categorically say manager SHOULD have done “X” instead is just silly. Who knows what would have been the outcome?&quot;

But I do know what the outcome was when he DID &quot;y&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To categorically say manager SHOULD have done “X” instead is just silly. Who knows what would have been the outcome?&#8221;</p>
<p>But I do know what the outcome was when he DID &#8220;y&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by s</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 outs, open base, 3-3 hitter with 2 HRs that night, or pitch to a 0-4 hitter who has struggled all night to make good contact.  yeah, you&#039;re right, it&#039;s simpleton baseball.  too bad our manager like to be the genius and not the simpleton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 outs, open base, 3-3 hitter with 2 HRs that night, or pitch to a 0-4 hitter who has struggled all night to make good contact.  yeah, you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s simpleton baseball.  too bad our manager like to be the genius and not the simpleton.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Career stats
OBP .322 vs .333
SLG .404 vs .442
OPS  .726 vs  .775
$1,000,000 vs $20,000,000

Yeah Don, you’re right what a failed replacement.  I agree that CC has had a great career, but there’s no way in hell that anyone with an IQ over 80 can say that DJ has been a failure replacement especially considering he makes 1/20th of CC’s salary.  Sure, CC is a better hitter, but for a leadoff batter, OBP is just as important.
 
Besides, I’m pretty sure DJ plays centerfield, so let’s compare his numbers this to the player he actually replaced.   Hmmm, who was that again?

Hamilton would have NEVER done anything at Tampa Bay, except smoked crack and smack.  He woke up AFTER getting cut.  Him getting cut saved his career and most likely his life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Career stats<br />
OBP .322 vs .333<br />
SLG .404 vs .442<br />
OPS  .726 vs  .775<br />
$1,000,000 vs $20,000,000</p>
<p>Yeah Don, you’re right what a failed replacement.  I agree that CC has had a great career, but there’s no way in hell that anyone with an IQ over 80 can say that DJ has been a failure replacement especially considering he makes 1/20th of CC’s salary.  Sure, CC is a better hitter, but for a leadoff batter, OBP is just as important.</p>
<p>Besides, I’m pretty sure DJ plays centerfield, so let’s compare his numbers this to the player he actually replaced.   Hmmm, who was that again?</p>
<p>Hamilton would have NEVER done anything at Tampa Bay, except smoked crack and smack.  He woke up AFTER getting cut.  Him getting cut saved his career and most likely his life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by Dave L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes that was my &#039;one slight exception&#039; Beth.

And Kelly Johnson? What could that guy have done to make anyone boo him? Jeez.

If Kaz continues to revive his career and gets another start at the Trop one day he will get a very warm welcome, I for one am rooting for him to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that was my &#8216;one slight exception&#8217; Beth.</p>
<p>And Kelly Johnson? What could that guy have done to make anyone boo him? Jeez.</p>
<p>If Kaz continues to revive his career and gets another start at the Trop one day he will get a very warm welcome, I for one am rooting for him to do it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only one I would have ever been tempted to boo was Pat Burrell. But I don&#039;t think he ever came back here with the Giants.

I thought the Jays fans were especially obnoxious when a pitch was aimed at Escobar&#039;s head and they cheered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only one I would have ever been tempted to boo was Pat Burrell. But I don&#8217;t think he ever came back here with the Giants.</p>
<p>I thought the Jays fans were especially obnoxious when a pitch was aimed at Escobar&#8217;s head and they cheered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by Dave L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never once said that we should keep BJ Upton after last year. I repeatedly said he was getting overpaid. Go back and check

We dont have you on the record on Josh, or Joe the Baptist as you weren&#039;t around then.

But you were here in 2011 saying we should have overpaid Crawford long term including $14M + for a lost year of 2011 and this year saying we should have matched overpaid Kepp who is still the worst player in baseball with a -1.4 WAR.

You hated BJ even when he was producing for us I willl give you that. Failed 2012 replacement Jennings at a 3.3 WAR a for  half a milllion.  vs CC @ $14M with a 0.5 WAR

If they ran the Rays one year the way you suggest, we would be doing a Marlins style fire sale within 2 years.

Don you are a masochist for repeatedly showing how truly ignorant you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never once said that we should keep BJ Upton after last year. I repeatedly said he was getting overpaid. Go back and check</p>
<p>We dont have you on the record on Josh, or Joe the Baptist as you weren&#8217;t around then.</p>
<p>But you were here in 2011 saying we should have overpaid Crawford long term including $14M + for a lost year of 2011 and this year saying we should have matched overpaid Kepp who is still the worst player in baseball with a -1.4 WAR.</p>
<p>You hated BJ even when he was producing for us I willl give you that. Failed 2012 replacement Jennings at a 3.3 WAR a for  half a milllion.  vs CC @ $14M with a 0.5 WAR</p>
<p>If they ran the Rays one year the way you suggest, we would be doing a Marlins style fire sale within 2 years.</p>
<p>Don you are a masochist for repeatedly showing how truly ignorant you are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Fernando Rodney Was Set Up To Fail by Dave L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 19:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you watch the replay Molina was set up to recieve the ball from Rodney on the outsiden edge  and low. Molina always gives a target of exactly where he wants the ball to go on most every pitch

He missed the spot entirely and grooved on as you said. Maddon, Hickey and Molina didnt call for a grooved FB and Rodney didnt try to throw it. He missed his spot its that simple. He and the entire bullpen have been missing spots all year.

If you are a closer like Rodney you dont pitch around people with two strikes intentionally. he tried to make a perfect pitch and missed it way inside.

With Buckners erratic wide strike zone any remotely decent pitch could have been called a strike last night.

Longo struck out on an at bat in which not one pitch entered the strike zone.

Last night baserunners were at a premium. Helli pitched a fantastic 8 innings allowing 2 runs.  Our relievers missed a few spots and we lost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you watch the replay Molina was set up to recieve the ball from Rodney on the outsiden edge  and low. Molina always gives a target of exactly where he wants the ball to go on most every pitch</p>
<p>He missed the spot entirely and grooved on as you said. Maddon, Hickey and Molina didnt call for a grooved FB and Rodney didnt try to throw it. He missed his spot its that simple. He and the entire bullpen have been missing spots all year.</p>
<p>If you are a closer like Rodney you dont pitch around people with two strikes intentionally. he tried to make a perfect pitch and missed it way inside.</p>
<p>With Buckners erratic wide strike zone any remotely decent pitch could have been called a strike last night.</p>
<p>Longo struck out on an at bat in which not one pitch entered the strike zone.</p>
<p>Last night baserunners were at a premium. Helli pitched a fantastic 8 innings allowing 2 runs.  Our relievers missed a few spots and we lost.</p>
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