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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Mr.Smith 1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Smith 1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 18:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you read it right it could mean that a move is inevitable he just isn&#039;t going to talk about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read it right it could mean that a move is inevitable he just isn&#8217;t going to talk about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here you go Mr. Smith: Archer up now.  Hernandez to the pen now.  Any reliever with options down now.  My prediction: Price won&#039;t pitch until after the ALL-STAR break.  By then it should be pretty apparent whether the seasons lost and if so, go with the young guys and entertain offers for Hellboy or Price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go Mr. Smith: Archer up now.  Hernandez to the pen now.  Any reliever with options down now.  My prediction: Price won&#8217;t pitch until after the ALL-STAR break.  By then it should be pretty apparent whether the seasons lost and if so, go with the young guys and entertain offers for Hellboy or Price.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweeted by M. Topkin after the latest clubhouse party following Rodney&#039;s blown save in Toronto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tweeted by M. Topkin after the latest clubhouse party following Rodney&#8217;s blown save in Toronto.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maddon does not anticipate discussing Hernandez removal from the rotation&quot;, a tweet from M. Topkin.  &quot;Instead Maddon shifts the blame to Ramos for allowing 3 runs,&quot;  another tweet.  Really Joe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maddon does not anticipate discussing Hernandez removal from the rotation&#8221;, a tweet from M. Topkin.  &#8220;Instead Maddon shifts the blame to Ramos for allowing 3 runs,&#8221;  another tweet.  Really Joe?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Tone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, Shields is not a fair comparison. That would be more like calling for Hellickson to be shipped out, which no one seems to be doing. Hellickson and Shields do have a track record of success, Hernandez has 2007 and tons of suck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Shields is not a fair comparison. That would be more like calling for Hellickson to be shipped out, which no one seems to be doing. Hellickson and Shields do have a track record of success, Hernandez has 2007 and tons of suck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Tone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zobrist only got a chance because Akinori was injured, so to laud them for that is not entirely merited. Pena was a similar case; his 2007 chance came only due to Norton&#039;s injury. Don&#039;t get me wrong, they have done so much good and created a fantastic organizational culture; but they lay their fair share of turds and criticism is justified. Hernandez is a turd. Luckily he did not cost as much as Burrell; cut bait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zobrist only got a chance because Akinori was injured, so to laud them for that is not entirely merited. Pena was a similar case; his 2007 chance came only due to Norton&#8217;s injury. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, they have done so much good and created a fantastic organizational culture; but they lay their fair share of turds and criticism is justified. Hernandez is a turd. Luckily he did not cost as much as Burrell; cut bait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Mr.Smith 1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Smith 1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I vowed not engage the troll anymore and I&#039;ve been pitching the perfect game, so in the interest of preserving my no-hitter I&#039;ll reply to myself:

Hernandez was signed to a 1 year, 3.25 MM contract not a $5MM contract like some would imply.  

For a big league team to take a crack at a once-good starter for the discount bin price of less than $4MM is/was a smart gamble.  It hasn&#039;t paid-off, so to this point I was wrong in my defense of the signing, but the fundamental difference between me and certain other Rays&#039; fans is that I can own my mistakes.  

Now we just need the organization to put a time-frame with specific parameters on when and how to make a change in the rotation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago I vowed not engage the troll anymore and I&#8217;ve been pitching the perfect game, so in the interest of preserving my no-hitter I&#8217;ll reply to myself:</p>
<p>Hernandez was signed to a 1 year, 3.25 MM contract not a $5MM contract like some would imply.  </p>
<p>For a big league team to take a crack at a once-good starter for the discount bin price of less than $4MM is/was a smart gamble.  It hasn&#8217;t paid-off, so to this point I was wrong in my defense of the signing, but the fundamental difference between me and certain other Rays&#8217; fans is that I can own my mistakes.  </p>
<p>Now we just need the organization to put a time-frame with specific parameters on when and how to make a change in the rotation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well once again Dave L, Friedman jr. and Mr. Smith don&#039;t know what they are talking about with Frieman&#039;s signings....Wish I would have keep my posts on the $5 mil signing of Noname and the Maddon give away of Niemanns Job... But there is a saying what goes around comes around..
Hang on Rob you get more mindless posts and Useless signings for all those &quot;RAYS EXPERTS&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well once again Dave L, Friedman jr. and Mr. Smith don&#8217;t know what they are talking about with Frieman&#8217;s signings&#8230;.Wish I would have keep my posts on the $5 mil signing of Noname and the Maddon give away of Niemanns Job&#8230; But there is a saying what goes around comes around..<br />
Hang on Rob you get more mindless posts and Useless signings for all those &#8220;RAYS EXPERTS&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by OriginalTom</title>
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		<dc:creator>OriginalTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You think Beckham is better than Srod? Srod has a .268/
.339/.411 line so far this season.  He is obviously playing a bit over his head.  I think with SRod people focus on his weaknesses (cannot hit right handed pitching, cannot play the left side of the infield) and not on his strengths (can hit lefties, excellent D at first and second and can play all 3 outfield positions well).He is a limited player and certainly not a full time player, but he is a useful bench player. I do not think you should replace him unless you have someone better than Srod and I do not think Beckham is that player.  At least not yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think Beckham is better than Srod? Srod has a .268/<br />
.339/.411 line so far this season.  He is obviously playing a bit over his head.  I think with SRod people focus on his weaknesses (cannot hit right handed pitching, cannot play the left side of the infield) and not on his strengths (can hit lefties, excellent D at first and second and can play all 3 outfield positions well).He is a limited player and certainly not a full time player, but he is a useful bench player. I do not think you should replace him unless you have someone better than Srod and I do not think Beckham is that player.  At least not yet.</p>
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		<dc:creator>OriginalTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 12:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Rays defense, they stuck with Zobrist when after the 2007 season he had a .200 BA with an OBP in the .230&#039;s through 280 at bats and that worked out pretty well.  They also stuck with Shields after his 5.18 ERA in 2010 when people were screaming to get rid of him and Shields finished 3rd in the CY Young the next season.  Of course Shield had a solid track record.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Rays defense, they stuck with Zobrist when after the 2007 season he had a .200 BA with an OBP in the .230&#8242;s through 280 at bats and that worked out pretty well.  They also stuck with Shields after his 5.18 ERA in 2010 when people were screaming to get rid of him and Shields finished 3rd in the CY Young the next season.  Of course Shield had a solid track record.</p>
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