Comments for Rays Index http://www.raysindex.com Sat, 25 May 2013 07:43:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Tone http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/4T6G8Q_L3jk/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Tone Sat, 25 May 2013 07:43:14 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-273287 Marlins have done it twice. The real issue in my mind lies in following “the process” to a point of insanity. The Marlins brought Miggy up young and for good reason. The Rays need to let go of the concept of holding guys down so long. I would rather have a World Series and lose that special player that helped a few years later to free agency any day; he’s just going to free agency a year earlier. Roberto Hernandez should never have been in this rotation. Chris Archer should have been there from day one; nuff said.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-273287 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/cDHZ-N6f8aY/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Ken Sat, 25 May 2013 06:12:39 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-273041 Canning Maddon in July not May. Sardonic asides aside, I still ask of optimistic Rays fans like you, what’s the formula for possible improvement? You deal in the realistic? Tell me what Fuld is doing on this team besides educating JoMa on sabermetrics? Financially, a 62.5 million dollar payroll will only get you to the Series if all planets are in alignment. We had our shot in 2008. It won’t happen at 62.5 again. The future? How long will MLB tolerate a city drawing maybe 25,000 against the Yanks before the plug is pulled?
Have you noticed that on 3 occasions this year Durham actually out drew us?
You deal with rays colored glasses on.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-273041 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Dave L http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/J_yZrnd60uI/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Dave L Sat, 25 May 2013 05:25:42 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272944 I wasn’t suggesting it or reveling in it. Just mentioning it as a sardonic aside to a bad night.

Its cold hard reality. T chart pluses versus minuses

I deal here in the possible and the realistic and the financially feasable, presently AND long term.

When you suggest firing 1/6 of the roster, then correct yourself but then up the ante with canning Maddon in May………..well…..Don has found a soulmate who can actually communicate in the written english.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272944 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/6iJ8xsZB1gc/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Ken Sat, 25 May 2013 05:01:29 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272893 Now there’s a formula for success. Let’s just throw at Cano, Ortiz, Bautista, Pedroia, Jones, Davis, and Weiters till we put all of them on the DL.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272893 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Ken http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/l_7loHwf8Wc/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Ken Sat, 25 May 2013 04:52:58 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272875 Replying to both Pete and Dave L: I should have clarified a bit. Maddon goes first. His inconsistent management style and his tongue in cheek wise ass assessments of each game have grown stale. He walks Cano tonight yet lets Farnsworth face Bautista on Thursday. He lets Hellickson throw 117 pitches yet consistently pulls Cobb and Moore once they hit 100. He tinkers with the lineup way too much. He relishes being “unconventional” yet never takes the blame for his FUBARS. His club house management style has already brought negative comments from newcomers Loney and KJ.
No, I wouldn’t suggest dispatching all six mentioned in one fell swoop. Fuld must go though. We really can’t afford a .170 LH hitting outfielder. Myers or Guyer need to be up. SRod, he sucks, give Beckham a shot. Granted, we’re stuck at catcher, but I can live with Molobaton for now. Roberts, he’s fine as an occasional insert but that’s it.
1/3th of the season is here. The sky may not be falling but it’s been pretty cloudy so far. What is the plan? Hurry up and wait? Good luck with that.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272875 Comment on [THE HANGOVER] The One Where We Discuss Playoff Chances And Longo’s Legs by Scot http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/xmIz35ODuR4/the-hangover-the-one-where-we-discuss-playoff-chances-and-longos-legs.html Scot Sat, 25 May 2013 04:30:06 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27607#comment-272804 Thanks Beth. This is the type of information I am seeking.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/the-hangover-the-one-where-we-discuss-playoff-chances-and-longos-legs.html#comment-272804 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Dave L http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/kG5h-6JcbzM/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Dave L Sat, 25 May 2013 04:25:22 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272781 You made some good angry points until you brought out the guillotine for 1/6 of the roster.

After summary execution of both our catchers, with a farm system with zero MLB ready catchers beyond Jimmy Nez. who i like by the way ,but sports a .700 OPS in AAA versus our present cathers .600 OPS vs MLB pitching. whats your plan?

A real GM has to have guys to replace players.

Who replaces Roberts and Sean?

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272781 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by pete http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/8F1NGNvaBww/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html pete Sat, 25 May 2013 04:04:34 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272696 Ken , Cool down a bit. Fausto and Ramos were horrible tonight. You can’t just dump 6 guys and replace them with guys from Durham that aren’t ready. The only guy who needs gone off the team is Farsworth. That opens the door to move Fausto to the pen and keep Odorizzi in the rotation when and if Price returns.

We have some serious holes on this team , I’ll give you that. If Moore and Cobb win the next 2 then the sky won’t be falling anymore.

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272696 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Dave L http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/Gi4QlAvodZM/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Dave L Sat, 25 May 2013 03:54:47 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272666 As the driver of the Fausto Bus and the biggest booster of bringing him here I have to come in and take my lumps. His confidence is completely shot. He has no business taking his next spot in the rotation v. the lowly Marlins at this point.

Although he hasnt necessarily justified a call up based on performance in Durham necessarily, I would rather see Archer build his confidence in the bigs against the weak Marlins bats than those same bats build confidence against a defeated and deflated Hernandez.

The Rays took alot of gambles in the off season as always. When Niemann went down, the need for a replacement veteran starter who could log innings was justified.

Hernandez was a reasonable gamble at the budget AF was afforded. So far it has failed.

They have confidence in thier ability to reclaim pitchers of a certain make up and make them effective. This time it hasnt worked.

We were at that game tonite and it wasn’t pretty live. I buy a bunch of games in the spring in advance. Based on RH horrific lifetime numbers vs current Yanks bats I certainly wouldnt have walked up for this one.

Im pulling the bus over getting out of the driver seat and handing the keys over to Mr. Smith. I will walk home from here.

But hey look on the bright side we managed to wreck the Grandy man’s hand and probably sidelined Phelps for a brief spell as well. It was a pyrrhic victory for the Yanks!

]]> http://www.raysindex.com/2013/05/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html#comment-272666 Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Enough With (The Bad) Roberto Hernandez by Rob http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CommentsForRaysIndex/~3/CdxA9-kyF7Y/postgame-shot-of-joe-enough-with-the-bad-roberto-hernandez.html Rob Sat, 25 May 2013 03:52:56 +0000 http://www.raysindex.com/?p=27618#comment-272659 Mr. Smith,

Remember this thread:

“ROB
March 29, 2013 at 11:28 am
I predict Hernandez goes 1-4 in 9 starts with a 4.5+ ERA and gets released.

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MR.SMITH 1980
March 29, 2013 at 1:06 pm
I predict that your prediction is just ridiculous. A more realistic expectation for his first 9 starts would be 3-3 with a 3.5- 4.0 … no one is saying he’s the next Verlander, but a #5 who can hold court with numbers like that is plenty good enough.

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ROB
March 29, 2013 at 4:12 pm
I respect your opinion and admit what you just described could happen, and I would be happy with that. I just think there are too many variables with this guy and that sort of scares me. I agree 1-4 is pessimistic, but I also think 3-3 is optimistic and reality will be something in between.

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MR.SMITH 1980
March 29, 2013 at 7:24 pm
I suppose the wisest move would be to revisit this in May…”

Well, it’s May and Hernandez is 2-5 with a 5.73 ERA after 9 starts. Let’s hope my other prediction that he gets released also comes true.

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