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		<title>Comment on Postgame Shot Of Joe: Rodney Tortures Rays Souls Again by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 01:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s not like he has an extended successful track record.  Relievers, especially closers, are an emotional sort.  Rodney may have blew his wad during the WSB this spring.  His mound presence lately is scary to watch.  If Hickey can get this pitch tipping corrected maybe he&#039;ll become useful. 
Time will tell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s not like he has an extended successful track record.  Relievers, especially closers, are an emotional sort.  Rodney may have blew his wad during the WSB this spring.  His mound presence lately is scary to watch.  If Hickey can get this pitch tipping corrected maybe he&#8217;ll become useful.<br />
Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by OriginalTom</title>
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		<dc:creator>OriginalTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Marlins series is definetly a great chance to gain some ground.  The stat about blowing 8 leads sure drives home the point about the bullpen needing to perform better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Marlins series is definetly a great chance to gain some ground.  The stat about blowing 8 leads sure drives home the point about the bullpen needing to perform better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, my point in posting that link was merely to show that teams with the most efficient closers win more games than those who don&#039;t.  Agreed it&#039;s a small and maybe skewed sample size but look at the names.  Rivera, Wetteland and the rest were tough closers in any given year and helped their teams get to the Series.  I don&#039;t care whether the save stat is truly relevant or not.  I do care about having a pitcher on my squad that can come in and shut down the opponent at the end of a tight game.
As for Maddon/Rodney, I gotta believe there was concern the day Rodney reported to camp.  There was a lot of press about his being overused and tipping his pitches.  His bullpen sessions were closed to the press and fans at first.  Tony Pena said during spring training that he noticed the pitch tipping.  I can&#039;t say when Maddon should have pulled him but I will say that Maddon didn&#039;t seem to have a backup plan.  The way the pen has performed so far (minus Peralta) maybe there wasn&#039;t a feasible option he liked.  Jim Johnson of the Orioles just blew save # 5.  Let&#039;s see what Showalter does.  
Today was a big win.  On to the Marlins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, my point in posting that link was merely to show that teams with the most efficient closers win more games than those who don&#8217;t.  Agreed it&#8217;s a small and maybe skewed sample size but look at the names.  Rivera, Wetteland and the rest were tough closers in any given year and helped their teams get to the Series.  I don&#8217;t care whether the save stat is truly relevant or not.  I do care about having a pitcher on my squad that can come in and shut down the opponent at the end of a tight game.<br />
As for Maddon/Rodney, I gotta believe there was concern the day Rodney reported to camp.  There was a lot of press about his being overused and tipping his pitches.  His bullpen sessions were closed to the press and fans at first.  Tony Pena said during spring training that he noticed the pitch tipping.  I can&#8217;t say when Maddon should have pulled him but I will say that Maddon didn&#8217;t seem to have a backup plan.  The way the pen has performed so far (minus Peralta) maybe there wasn&#8217;t a feasible option he liked.  Jim Johnson of the Orioles just blew save # 5.  Let&#8217;s see what Showalter does.<br />
Today was a big win.  On to the Marlins.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by OriginalTom</title>
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		<dc:creator>OriginalTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken,

I do not want to beat a dead horse and if you hava had enough of this thread I understand.  I want to go back to the study you linked to regarding relief pitchers,performance in the World Series.  It is flawed, in my opinion, because the results are alread known.  I think it would have been a better study if the author had compared the 2 WS participants closers prior to the series and than studied how the respective teams and closers had performed in the series. though, even then it is a mighty small sample size.

On a related note, you have been critical of Maddon for sticking with Rodney to long, when would you have removed him from the closer&#039;s role?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I do not want to beat a dead horse and if you hava had enough of this thread I understand.  I want to go back to the study you linked to regarding relief pitchers,performance in the World Series.  It is flawed, in my opinion, because the results are alread known.  I think it would have been a better study if the author had compared the 2 WS participants closers prior to the series and than studied how the respective teams and closers had performed in the series. though, even then it is a mighty small sample size.</p>
<p>On a related note, you have been critical of Maddon for sticking with Rodney to long, when would you have removed him from the closer&#8217;s role?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Moore/ Cobb pitching Maddon can do anything with the lineup and come out smelling like a manager...With Noname, Price, Helly he comes out smelling like Maddon....IF, IF, IF the Rays would have won 16 more games they would be in 1st...what does that BS mean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Moore/ Cobb pitching Maddon can do anything with the lineup and come out smelling like a manager&#8230;With Noname, Price, Helly he comes out smelling like Maddon&#8230;.IF, IF, IF the Rays would have won 16 more games they would be in 1st&#8230;what does that BS mean?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cobb=Shields.  Nice game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobb=Shields.  Nice game.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, the Rays had a 49-47 record last year after 96.  Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the Rays had a 49-47 record last year after 96.  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 18:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attaboy SRod, prove me wrong next AB too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attaboy SRod, prove me wrong next AB too!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 18:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed Mr. Smith.  I want the Rays to go undefeated every year.  I go to 40-50 games a year and give away the balance of my tickets to youth groups.  Also go to one series each ay NY, Boston, and Baltimore.  Yup, big fan but think I&#039;m able to watch a game with some level of detachment.  I didn&#039;t get on the bandwagon in 2008 like many who respond.
Losses hurt.  Losses that can be avoided hurt more.  
I admit to never being a Maddon fan.  He is the only manager I&#039;ve seen that can over/under manage a game at the same time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Mr. Smith.  I want the Rays to go undefeated every year.  I go to 40-50 games a year and give away the balance of my tickets to youth groups.  Also go to one series each ay NY, Boston, and Baltimore.  Yup, big fan but think I&#8217;m able to watch a game with some level of detachment.  I didn&#8217;t get on the bandwagon in 2008 like many who respond.<br />
Losses hurt.  Losses that can be avoided hurt more.<br />
I admit to never being a Maddon fan.  He is the only manager I&#8217;ve seen that can over/under manage a game at the same time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tailgating With The Rays: Discussing Blown Leads For Game 49 by Mr.Smith 1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Smith 1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 18:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, you don&#039;t really look at the game objectively either.  Anyone who has a favorite team or a team that they&#039;ve followed more than any other is no longer capable of being truly objective.  Fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, you don&#8217;t really look at the game objectively either.  Anyone who has a favorite team or a team that they&#8217;ve followed more than any other is no longer capable of being truly objective.  Fact.</p>
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