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		<title>UK Chief Rabbi: Europeans aren’t having enough children</title>
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				The leader of Britain’s Jewish community claimed the continent’s population is in decline because people care more about shopping than the sacrifice involved in parenthood.
He blamed atheist “neo-Darwinians” for Europe’s low birth rate and said religious people of all denominations are more likely to have large families.
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<p>He blamed atheist “neo-Darwinians” for Europe’s low birth rate and said religious people of all denominations are more likely to have large families.</p>
<p>The Chief Rabbi, who entered the House of Lords last week, made his comments in a lecture on religion in the 21st century hosted by Theos, the public theology think-tank, on Wednesday night.</p>
<p>Lord Sacks said that faith had survived so far because it could provide answers to mankind’s eternal search for meaning in life - unlike the market, the state, science or philosophy, which underpin modern liberal democracies.</p>
<p>He claimed religion could continue to play an important role worldwide in the future, by engaging in debate with scientists, by campaigning on issues such as global poverty or the environment, and by discussing the nature of the common good with humanists.</p>
<p>The Chief Rabbi warned that secular Europe is at risk, however, because its moral relativism can easily be defeated by fundamentalists.</p>
<p>And he claimed that its population is also in decline, compared with every other part of the world, because non-believers lack shared values of family and community that religions have.</p>
<p>Lord Sacks said: “Parenthood involves massive sacrifice of money, attention, time and emotional energy.</p>
<p>“Where today in European culture with its consumerism and instant gratification – because you’re worth it – where will you find space for the concept of sacrifice for the sake of generations not yet born?</p>
<p>“Europe, at least the indigenous population of Europe, is dying.”</p>
<p>“That is one of the unsayable truths of our time. We are undergoing the moral equivalent of climate change and no one is talking about it.</p>
<p>“Albert Camus once said, &#8216;The only serious philosophical question is why should I not commit suicide?’.</p>
<p>“I think he was wrong. The only serious philosophical question is, why should I have a child? Our culture is not giving an easy answer to that question.”</p>
<p>He added: “Wherever you turn today - Jewish, Christian or Muslim - the more religious the community, the larger on average are their families.</p>
<p>“The major assault on religion today comes from the neo-Darwinians.’’</p>
<p>Discussing the popular secular idea that there are no absolute moral values, he said: “You cannot defend a civilisation on the basis of moral relativism.</p>
<p>“In a head-to-head contest between a moral relativist and a fundamentalist, who wins? The fundamentalist must win because he is sure he’s right, and you are not sure he’s wrong.”</p>
<p>He said that although the war on terror had been portrayed by Western politicians as a “battle of ideas”, there is little hope that Islamists who believe they owe allegiance to God would be swayed by talk of freedom or democracy.</p>
<p>“The place for religion is in civil society, where it achieves many things essential to liberal democratic freedom. It sanctifies marriage and the family and the obligations of parenthood, and it safeguards the non-relativist moral principles on which Western freedom is based.</p>
<p>“It may not be religion that is dying, it may be liberal democratic Europe that is in danger, demographically and in its ability to defend its own values.”</p>
<p>Lord Sacks, who has been Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth since 1991, described the modern phenomenon of “angry atheists” as the “intellectual equivalent of road rage”.</p>
<p>He said that more respectful dialogue is needed between religious groups and the secular world.</p>
<p>“All peace depends on compromise and that is why peace comes to seem to some religious groups to be a form of betrayal, and that is why peacemakers get assassinated.” </p>
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		<title>Books you’d recommend</title>
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		<title>Is Obama really a socialist??</title>
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It seems like the guy is aloof to the plight of the American worker. He talks rarely about joblessness and it doesn&#8217;t seem like a huge priority to him.
Obama really never grew up even in a middle class lifestyle. He is a man of privilege. 
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<div>It seems like the guy is aloof to the plight of the American worker. He talks rarely about joblessness and it doesn&#8217;t seem like a huge priority to him.</p>
<p>Obama really never grew up even in a middle class lifestyle. He is a man of privilege. </p>
<p>Sure his policies on race and health care may seem progressive&#8230;.but socialist?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face facts, most companies want health care reform. It&#8217;s not really an issue that should be partisan. And even the public option is hardly a gov&#8217;t giveaway, it&#8217;s just a side-step away from insurance companies.</p>
<p>I guess what spurned me to ask this is that right now we seem to be in a depression. Or on the verge. And yet Obama really seems clueless.  A true socialist president wouldn&#8217;t be.</p></div>
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		<title>A Cat Comes Down with H1N1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I Can Has Swine Flu? A Cat Comes Down with H1N1
By Alice Park Wednesday, Nov. 04, 2009
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<p>I Can Has Swine Flu? A Cat Comes Down with H1N1<br />
By Alice Park Wednesday, Nov. 04, 2009</p>
<p>For all the attention that has whirled around H1N1 in recent months, it seems that one vulnerable, and furry, population may have been overlooked: the family pet. </p>
<p>On Wednesday, the Iowa Department of Public Health reported the first confirmed case of H1N1 in a house pet, a 13-year-old domestic shorthaired cat. The animal likely contracted the virus from its owners, veterinarians say, since two of the three family members living in the cat&#8217;s household had recently suffered from influenza-like illness. Late last week, when the cat came down with flu-like symptoms — malaise, loss of appetite — its owners brought it to Iowa State University College of Veterinary Medicine for treatment. The family mentioned to the vet that they had also recently battled illness, which led to testing the pet for H1N1. </p>
<p>H1N1 is a combination of influenza strains; one part originated in pigs, and another in birds. So far, only swine and ferrets, which are particularly susceptible to the flu, have become infected with H1N1.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not yet clear how vulnerable cats, dogs and other household animals may be to the new virus, but the Iowa cat&#8217;s case reinforces just how different H1N1 is from seasonal flu viruses. Although some household cats and certain wild cats in zoos have gotten ill with avian influenza, and dogs have their own canine version of the flu virus, pets don&#8217;t normally get sick with the regular human flu. &quot;There has never been a report of human seasonal influenza affecting cats or dogs,&quot; says Dr. Julie Levy, director of Maddie&#8217;s Shelter Medicine Program at the College of Veterinary Medicine of the University of Florida. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that the Iowa cat&#8217;s case may be a bellwether of future pet disease, but it&#8217;s also possible it was just a fluke event. At the cat&#8217;s advanced age, its immune system may not have been as adept at fending off influenza as that of a younger animal — similar to the vulnerability seen in aging humans. Still, says Dr. Ann Garvey, state public-health vet at the Iowa Department of Public Health, &quot;We just don&#8217;t know, we really don&#8217;t.&quot; </p>
<p>Garvey notes that despite nearly 25,000 cases of positive, lab-confirmed H1N1 in people reported in the U.S. since last spring, the Iowa cat is the first pet to be documented with the virus. But before pet owners start suspecting Fido and Fluffy of being H1N1 hotbeds, Garvey stresses that so far, no cases of influenza of any kind in pets — including cases of bird flu — are known to have moved from animals into people. And even among the animals, the virus does not appear to spread easily, which may further suggest that pets are not ideal reservoirs for influenza. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s good news for pet lovers and flu worriers. And so is the fact that the cat seems to be recovering well from its bout with H1N1. &quot;Both the owners and the cat are recovering,&quot; says Garvey. As for anyone else who is worried about spreading H1N1 flu to their pets, vets recommend following the same guidelines that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest for protecting family members — wash your hands frequently, cover your coughs and try to avoid close contact with your furry friends until you&#8217;re well.</p>
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<p>This makes sense, but I never thought of swine flu getting to animals.</p></div>
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Not a good time to be wearing a hijab in Texas. Or to be a kid named Ibrahim, or Mohamed. Even if most Muslim Americans - most Muslims world wide - are peaceful, there&#8217;s gonna be whole lot of bigots out there making  their lives as miserable as possible. It sucks to be a [...]]]></description>
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<div>Not a good time to be wearing a hijab in Texas. Or to be a kid named Ibrahim, or Mohamed. Even if most Muslim Americans - most Muslims world wide - are peaceful, there&#8217;s gonna be whole lot of bigots out there making  their lives as miserable as possible. It sucks to be a minority after someone in your group commits a crime. </p>
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<b>Muslim, Arab Groups Condemn Fort Hood Shooting, Brace For Backlash</b></p>
<p>Arab and Muslim political groups are bracing themselves for a wave of anger and attacks after news broke on Thursday that the primary suspect behind the shooting deaths of twelve soldiers at Fort Hood had a Arabic and/or Muslim-sounding name.</p>
<p>Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a native of Virginia, is believed to have been responsible for opening fire on his fellow soldiers at the U.S. Army base.</p>
<p>It was not immediately clear whether Nidal Malik Hasan was, in fact, a Muslim, though reports surfaced that he had converted to the religion late in life.</p>
<p>By Thursday evening, nevertheless, Arab-American and Muslim-American advocacy organizations were already readying themselves for a backlash. The Arab-American Institute said it received one threatening call from an unidentified male shortly after reports surfaced that the name of the alleged shooting suspect was Nidal Malik Hasan. The group, which condemned the massacre, said it was expecting more.</p>
<p>&quot;We like to give people the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to being a reactionary thing,&quot; said Leigh O&#8217;Neill, director of government relations for the organization. &quot;But there is a lot of hate out there and hate is hate. It is bipartisan and doesn&#8217;t have geographic balance. We feel terrible for the victims today. And I wish people will understand when crime is crime and terrorism is terrorism.&quot;</p>
<p>The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil liberties organization for American Muslims, was, meanwhile, working fast to get ahead of a potential rise in anti-Muslim sentiment. The group was set to host a press conference at 8 p.m. on Thursday evening to condemn the attacks and &quot;urge calm&quot; in the aftermath of the shooting.</p>
<p>Ibrahim Hooper, the group&#8217;s communications director, told the Huffington Post that they had not, as of 6:30 p.m. received any threatening calls, emails or other communiqués. The organization, he said, would be announcing publicly any such threats as they occurred - in hopes of dissuading people from making them in the first place.</p>
<p>At this juncture, again, there is no concrete reporting as to whether Nidal Malik Hasan was in fact a Muslim or an Arab. All that has been reported is that he served in the Department of Psychology at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress at the Bethesda Naval Facility in Bethesda, Maryland. He is believed to be 39 or 40 years old.</p>
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Read more at: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/muslim-arab-groups-condem_n_347777.html&amp;cp" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1&#8230;347777.html&amp;cp</a></div>
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		<title>The Food Crisis is it real?</title>
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For the past 200 years predictions of imminent worldwide famine due to food shortages have been common and the usual result of such predictions are bankrupt farmers. I&#8217;ve seen a recent spate of articles claiming that this time it is for real. Water is in short supply, deserts are growing and major rivers are no [...]]]></description>
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<div>For the past 200 years predictions of imminent worldwide famine due to food shortages have been common and the usual result of such predictions are bankrupt farmers. I&#8217;ve seen a recent spate of articles claiming that this time it is for real. Water is in short supply, deserts are growing and major rivers are no longer flowing to the sea year round. If I&#8217;m seeing such articles other people are too and I thought I would see what everyone else thinks.</div>
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		<title>Why is equality being put to a vote?</title>
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Why is equality between gays and heterosexuals being put to a vote? 
Individual states also would not have supported desegregation or slavery being put to an end, but after a while, the states got told they couldn&#8217;t vote on their equality like that (actually, segregation was national, but still). Some would say it&#8217;s insulting to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Individual states also would not have supported desegregation or slavery being put to an end, but after a while, the states got told they couldn&#8217;t vote on their equality like that (actually, segregation was national, but still). Some would say it&#8217;s insulting to compare the two. I&#8217;m not going to say that gay marriage is the same as slavery and so forth. What I am going to say is that like those other situations, gays are unequal in the eyes of the law. The idea that their equality should come down to a vote offends me. What if we also put people who got remarried to a vote? What about convicted rapists who wanted to get married? That&#8217;s not being put to a vote. All of these are considered invasions upon people&#8217;s lives, so what makes gay marriage different? What the Bible supposedly says? Well, we allow people to get remarried and that&#8217;s a sin. Furthermore, equality is not supposed to be based on religion in this country. The same Bible also makes it sound like slavery is okay. (Once again, not saying the gay marriage argument is the same as slavery). Are we going to allow slavery because the Bible speaks in favor of it in some areas? </p>
<p>Marriage is a religious institution. </p>
<p>Okay, so let&#8217;s not allow Atheists to get married. Or better yet, let&#8217;s put whether Atheists are allowed to get married to a vote in every state. Would that be okay or would that be considered a major intrusion upon the lives of Atheists? Also, anybody who got married by a JP probably should have their marriage declared null and void. Or we can vote on it. </p>
<p>Some say just to allow civil unions. Okay, let&#8217;s explore the problem with this. I read elsewhere that civil unions are not relevant outside of the state that they&#8217;re in. Major problem. Can people with civil unions put each other on each other&#8217;s insurance policy? Can they file joint taxes? </p>
<p>So why should all these forms of equality be put to a vote? </p>
<p>(my apologies to those reading this in two different places. Wanted to get it out there for two different areas).</p></div>
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HS Dent is reporting that gross unadjusted applications for the housing tax credit are declining. Since home buys are seasonal, the seasonal adjustment to these figures were not given, nothing from Case-Schiller was reported and other gaps were in the raw numbers probably exist that part of the report did not impress me. What I [...]]]></description>
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<div>HS Dent is reporting that gross unadjusted applications for the housing tax credit are declining. Since home buys are seasonal, the seasonal adjustment to these figures were not given, nothing from Case-Schiller was reported and other gaps were in the raw numbers probably exist that part of the report did not impress me. What I found interesting was the analysis of the probable outcome as the tax-credit becomes semi-permanent real interesting.</p>
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<li>The gross decline started prior to the expected end of the program which means that probably marginal buyers are running short already.</p>
<p>The extension of the program to existing homebuyers means that congress has concluded that without increasing the pool of marginal buyers freefall in residential real estate market is likely. (This is a summation of a longer argument not a quote,)</p>
<p>Bringing future sales forward as with CFC makes a bad situation worse in the not very long run.</li>
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So assuming those points are roughly correct housing prices should start going into freefall again by March at the latest. That should cause about a 10 T decline in national wealth by the November elections. My question is how is the best way to play this roughly predictable air pocket in the financial markets?</div>
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				WASHINGTON — Nearly half of all US children, including an overwhelming majority of black children, will eat meals at some point during their childhood paid for by food stamps, an indicator of poverty, a study showed Monday.
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<p>				WASHINGTON — Nearly half of all US children, including an overwhelming majority of black children, will eat meals at some point during their childhood paid for by food stamps, an indicator of poverty, a study showed Monday.</p>
<p>&quot;If you get food stamps, you are by definition in poverty and your household doesn&#8217;t have many assets,&quot; said Mark Rank, a co-author of the study with Thomas Hirschl of Cornell University.</p>
<p>&quot;The fact that half of American children at some time during their childhood find themselves in this position really ought to be a wake-up call to America,&quot; he told AFP.</p>
<p>The study found that 49.2 percent of all American children will at some point live in a home that receives food stamps.</p>
<p>Among black children and children living in single-parent households, the percentage is much higher: around 90 percent live in homes that receive food stamps at one stage or another.</p>
<p>And nearly all black children in single parent homes where the head of household has less than a high school education live in financial and food insecurity during part of their childhood, the study says.</p>
<p>The study, which was published Monday in the American Medical Association&#8217;s Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, is based on an analysis of a 32-year study of some 4,800 US households.</p>
<p>It concluded that American children face the highest levels of poverty and social deprivation of any children growing up in Western developed nations, and they have the flimsiest social safety net to fall back on.</p>
<p>&quot;It&#8217;s always been weak, particularly compared with European countries or Canada or other industrialized countries,&quot; said Rank, a professor at the school of social work at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri.</p>
<p>&quot;One of the reasons why our rates of poverty are so high is because we do so little in terms of trying to protect families from getting into poverty. We have to cast our safety net wider,&quot; he said.</p>
<p>Poverty and food insecurity are &quot;two of the most detrimental economic conditions affecting a child&#8217;s health&quot; and tag 22 billion dollars a year onto US health care costs, the study said.</p>
<p>&quot;Children in poverty are significantly more likely to experience a range of health problems, including low birth weight, lead poisoning, asthma, mental health disorders, delayed immunization, dental problems and accidental death,&quot; it said.</p>
<p>&quot;There&#8217;s a strong connection between poverty, health and mental health,&quot; said Rank and the detrimental effects of growing up poor, even if just for a short period, often carry over into adulthood, he said.</p>
<p>An earlier study conducted by Rank and Hirschl showed that half of American adults resort to food stamps to put a meal in their stomachs.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5huS1aDImykHCJxUuyNW-fbMSAbMA" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp&#8230;UuyNW-fbMSAbMA</a></p>
<p>Once again, American is failing its citizens in ways other countries aren&#8217;t.</p></div>
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