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		<title>Testing Truth: Do You Believe A Lie?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the things that is roiling around in my life. We think we know the answer, but what if there are indications that perhaps we don&amp;#8217;t have as strong a hold on gauging the truth as what we thought? This comes home to us in many ways in modern life. Maybe it [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the things that is roiling around in my life. We <em>think</em> we know the answer, but what if there are indications that perhaps we don&#8217;t have as strong a hold on gauging the truth as what we thought? This comes home to us in many ways in modern life. Maybe it was always so through the ages, but not having &#8220;been there&#8221;, I&#8217;m satisfied to just comment on us, today.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been challenged by God to question some of my basic premises. But instead of delving right into that I want to leave you readers with something to cogitate a bit about. Seth Godin has a book on Marketing that has been repackaged with a new title &#8220;All Marketers Are Liars&#8221;. In it he deals with how we often operate in terms of what we believe to be true. No wonder he says &#8220;I’ve seen this book in campaign headquarters and carried around at evangelical conferences.&#8221; Yes, that&#8217;s you, Evangelical&#8230;. or you, observer of Evangelical. Interesting that we market the gospel, but we market ourselves in this age of ubiquitous new media, so I suppose that is not too hard to grasp. </p>
<p>So,  what are the thinking points I&#8217;d like for us consider from Godin&#8217;s thoughts, for now?</p>
<p><a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/all_marketers_are_liars/2009/11/a-new-cover-a-new-foreword-but-the-same-book.html">Seth:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>You believe things that aren’t true.<br />
Let me say that a different way: many things that are true are true because you believe them.<br />
&#8230;Here’s the first half of the simple summary: We believe what we want to believe, and once we believe something, it becomes a self-fulfilling truth.</p>
<p>&#8230;Here’s the second part of the summary: When you are busy telling stories to people who want to hear them, you’ll be tempted to tell stories that just don’t hold up. Lies. Deceptions. </p>
<hr />
“What’s your story?”<br />
“Will the people who need to hear this story believe it?”<br />
“Is it true?”<br />
&#8230;When you find a story that works, live that story, make it true, authentic and subject to scrutiny.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, that is a powerful big bite to chew on.<br />
If I talk about Big T truth, then I am talking about a standard that does not change according to circumstance or what we want to believe about it, but for most of us we rarely operate in the confines of Big T truth (maybe we ought to, more). Most of us are trying to swim or sink inside the truths that are more fluid, like who we are, and what we believe about how we should behave, or how we ought to relate, or even as big as how we ought to live our lives.</p>
<p>Feel free to comment&#8230; and I&#8217;ll be taking the conversation into what this looks like in my own life and heart right now.<br />
It will take me further down the road of <a href="http://truegrit.weblogs.us/2007/09/27/imposters-and-inner-critics/">Imposters and Inner Critics</a>, but with a spiritual touring car.</p>
<p><small>If you want that book by Seth Godin, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591841003?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=ilonasreflect-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=1591841003">get it here</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=ilonasreflect-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=1591841003" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> &#8211; but that isn&#8217;t the main point of this post.</small></p>

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		<title>The Principle of the Thing: one method of understanding scripture’</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reposting from May 12, 2006
Rebecca Groothuis
Discerning biblical truth consists of more than stringing together a series of prooftexts. We must encourage Christians to think theologically, systematically, and holistically, asking questions of plain logic, such as, &amp;#8220;Does this make sense? Does it cohere?&amp;#8221; All truth is God&amp;#8217;s truth, and a logical contradiction is not truth.
Exegesis of [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><fieldset>Reposting from May 12, 2006</fieldset></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.ivpress.com/groothuis/rebecca/archives/000177.php#more">Rebecca Groothuis</a><br />
Discerning biblical truth consists of more than stringing together a series of prooftexts. We must encourage Christians to think theologically, systematically, and holistically, asking questions of plain logic, such as, &#8220;Does this make sense? Does it cohere?&#8221; All truth is God&#8217;s truth, and a logical contradiction is not truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exegesis of scripture, discovering an understanding of what God&#8217;s message to us means, consists of many aspects of study. </p>
<p>People tend to favor their own methods, but there is a synergistic working together of things that will highlight the truth. In the knottiest of questions I like using an overview approach that I have called &#8220;the principle method&#8221;. If broken down into its essence I might say this is based on finding God&#8217;s revelations of Himself and applying that as a test, or key, to our understanding of the meaning in individual parts of scripture. I would structure this as the pivotal fulcrum between conflicting ideas of scripture&#8217;s direction, thus creating a balance of understanding.</p>
<p>And lest anyone think this is a subjective and &#8230; by inference&#8230; unproven method of arriving at the truth of God&#8217;s message I found a very ancient and reliable illustration: the Nicene council and the influential arguments of Athanasius.</p>
<p>In pursuing reading relative to the gender debate within the Church an intriguing avenue opened. Kevin Giles has written a book which connects the issues of how we view the Godhead and how we view male and female interpersonal relationship. Within the first part of the book dealing with views of the Trinity, the Nicene council&#8230; and resulting creeds &#8230; is prominent. In the debates over doctrines the usual pattern of conflicting scriptures and their individual exegesis evidences do battle. This is a familiar territory for everyone who finds themselves trying to negotiate their way between theological conflicts. Calvinism/ Arminianism&#8230;  works vs. faith&#8230;. cessationism vs continualism&#8230;. and here, trinitarianism vs subordinationalism. Too many ism&#8217;s don&#8217;t you think? Some people just tune it out, it makes their heads swim; others are into their ( dare I say it?) anal element. </p>
<p>But the truth is out there somewhere, and that is what we are aiming toward, it is something worth the time and effort for many of us. Some of us are pearl connoisseurs, looking for that big T Truth. Principles are the stepping stone bridge over the troubled waters of seemingly unresolvable dispute. I think, personally, this is because principles are usually grounded somewhere in the nature of God Himself, as He has revealed Himself. Jesus, in His perfect simplicity stated it this way: I Am the Truth. This is why this method of scripture study works. There is overarching truth, not a multiplicity of it, but there is overarching truth to be found, and it provides structure and parameters for the rest of the understanding. </p>
<p>I think there are several terms that are used for this same concept. At times I have expressed this as &#8220;presuppositions&#8221;, because to use the principles in discussion, there has to be an agreement that these are indeed true. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ccel.org/a/athanasius/athanasius-EB.html">Athanasius</a> is quoted as speaking of &#8220;the scope of scripture&#8221;, &#8220;the overall drift&#8221;. and &#8220;the theological center&#8221;<sup>1</sup> in forming his concept of &#8220;homoousios&#8221;. This line of thought resulted in the acceptance of our present ideas of the Trinity as defined and confessed within the Nicene Creed. It is one of the presuppositions that many orthodox Christians work from. Giles, in his book, &#8220;The Trinity and Subordinationism The Doctrine of God &#038; the Gender Debate&#8221;, submits that we in Evangelical Christianity are reworking the old debate, for self-invested reasons of our own. Although he gives the benefit of the doubt to Evangelicals on the basis that their grasp of history is lacking. He chalks this up directly to the idea that todays Evangelical theologians are vested in their determination to prove the subordination of women, and thus &#8220;read back&#8221; into the doctrine of the Trinity and threaten to subvert the whole trinitarian doctrine that was previously established as a result of the Nicene council.</p>
<p>What Giles argument here does not do is establish anything concerning the gender debate &#8211; that is dealt with later in the book, but he makes a very cogent observation about the blind spots of today&#8217;s manner of theology in our own stream of Evangelicalism. And how important it is to not be reactionaries. Using the full connotation of the word.</p>
<p>But what I am saying here concerning &#8220;principles&#8221; is that this overview is as important to contextual reading as specific textural reading, context on the smaller scale of singular scriptures and even books of the Bible. There is an entirety to the Bible that cannot be ignored, and there are times when we must establish the basic principles and then go on from there. This is Paul&#8217;s contention in the book of Hebrews,&#8221;not laying again the foundation&#8221;.<br />
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For an example of how I use this way of discovering the reconciliation between seemingly contradictory passages of scripture, is <a href="http://www.geocities.com/reflectpool/biblestudy.html">a webpage</a> that includes some of my basic thoughts on Biblestudy. In that article I stated that I keep some </p>
<blockquote><p>Christian presuppositions in mind:</p>
<p>    * God is good<br />
    * He wants to give wisdom to those who ask<br />
    * That He is a person who can be known </p></blockquote>
<p>What I termed my &#8220;presuppositions&#8221; are ideas based upon Bibilical principles. I find that understanding principles gives a short hand way of being able to cut right to the heart of many difficult concepts. It gives an important overview of God&#8217;s message and purposes.</p>
<p>In deciphering the so-called contradiction of <a href="http://www.geocities.com/reflectpool/bible_c2.html">salvation by faith vs. works</a>, Ephesians 2:8-9 and James 2:24, I put this to use using Romans chapter 3 verse 28  to represent the pivotal point within the balance, with the two contrasting verses on either side. One accentuating the means of attainment [of salvation], the other one the assurance of its reality.</p>
<p><sup>1</sup> pg. 46 &#8220;The Trinity and Subordinationism The Doctrine of God &#038; the Gender Debate&#8221; Kevin Giles, 2002</p>

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		<title>Harvard Gets Religion</title>
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		<description>Most people know that Harvard began as a Puritan institution, and numbers know that the religious origins have been largely left in the dust; but what you might not know is that there seems to be a resurrection of spiritual interest and dialog at this venerable ivy league college.
&amp;#8220;Is Christianity All the Rage?&amp;#8221; reports that [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people know that Harvard began as a Puritan institution, and numbers know that the religious origins have been largely left in the dust; but what you might not know is that there seems to be a resurrection of spiritual interest and dialog at this venerable ivy league college.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2009/11/14/christianity-good-documentary-objectively/">&#8220;Is Christianity All the Rage?&#8221;</a> reports that this is effected by &#8220;&#8230;students watching the screening of the new documentary “Collision.”<br />
The event was hosted by Harvard College Faith and Action in order to stimulate discussion and thoughts about Christianity. &#8221;</p>
<p>One view:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Harvard needs something like this,” he said, “we have intellect, sport, we don’t have a lot of spiritual stuff, this is a good way to bring that in, or to even start that.”</p></blockquote>

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/D9A51237-F5B3-48AF-8EEC-5F43AD490E04/"&gt;Clipmark: Advent Calender -Out of Gum Packs?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
unusual advent calender idea -easy.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://urbanext.illinois.edu/fallcolor/about.cfm"&gt;About Fall Color - The Miracle of Fall - University of Illinois Extension&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
how leaves change color&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/E223939E-18DA-4B10-8F1D-CC652B4B9FC6/"&gt;Clipmark: Finally: Affirmed in Saving Magazines!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
Now there is no hope I will agree to throw loved magazines... I will just have to collect enough of the same kind to have a stool...or two!&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/AC3A680A-709E-4858-859E-A8DBBA7AD4D5/"&gt;Clipmark: More Fairy Houses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
People can be so creative. These are made of nature findings.&lt;/li&gt;
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