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8 meses são nada

Edson — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:27:44 PM -0500

Sei que vai soar clichê pacas, mas "antes perder esses últimos 8 meses do que o resto de suas vidas" (nossa, que brega isso!).

Concordo com o colega acima também. Acho que é um bom momento pra voce e sua ex-esposa conversarem, preferencialmente em território "neutro" e decidirem o que voces querem pro seu filho. Se ela acreditar que sua influência não é boa e você concordar, é uma coisa. Se ocorrer o contrário, mas ela parecer contrariada, remedia-se depois. Mas não posso crer que, enquanto mãe, ela ache mais saudável ter de dar uma desculpa esfarrapada ou mentir pro filho de vocês sobre sua ausência, dizendo que você nem ao menos tentou.

E, caso você consiga tornar a encontrar seu filho, em algum momento você vai conseguir abrir o coração e pedir desculpas a ele por ter se ausentado, bem como expor o que você pensa sobre a situação e o histórico. Crianças, ainda mais pré-adolescentes, são muito imediatistas. Daí a você demonstrar atitudes de curto prazo pra ele certamente vai fazer bastante diferença.

Boa sorte!!! Precisando, pode contar comigo também :)

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Hiro — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:59:19 AM -0500

Rodrigo,

Fiquei muito comovido com seu post e pude imaginar o seu drama em relação a seu filho. Curti o um dia dos Pais maravilhoso com a minha filha ontem e realmente não posso imaginar como seria passar esse dia longe dela. Acredito que tanto voce como sua ex cometeram erros, mas o preço que voce esta pagando é muito alto, principalmente ao se privar da presença de seu filho.

Mas por outro lado, acho que voce perdeu a batalha e não a guerra. Por favor, não desista do seu filho, assim como nós mesmos nunca gostariamos que nossos pais desistissem de nós.

Quanto ao "jogo sujo" que sua ex vem praticando, por coincidencia assisti uma materia no jornal Hoje (férias nos permite isso. rs) esse dias que falava exatamente sobre isso: pais separados que tentam descontar as frustações, raivas etc do seu ex, nos proprios filhos, fazendo futrica e fazendo a cabeça deles. E segundo a materia isso é ilegal e a pessoa que comete tal ato pode até perder a guarda definitivamente. Acredito que não é isso que voce quer, mas se preciso vai fundo e lute pelos seus direitos. Sei que não é facil, mas antes de qualquer atitude mais drastica tente dialogar com a sua ex e expor todos seus pontos e tentar ouvir o dela e chegar a um consenso de que o filho que voces tiveram juntos será o maior prejudicado se um acordo não ocorrer.

No seu lugar também pediria desculpas ao seu filho. Afinal como voce mesmo disse, dizer um monte de coisa pra um criança de 10 anos não é legal sem dizer que de repente era exatamente isso que sua ex queria. Ou seja, se voce perdeu a batalha ou até mesmo a guerra, o tiro derradeiro (no pé) foi dado por voce. Depois de passar por tudo o que passou não seria justo voce carregar mais esse peso nas costas. Vamos lá meu amigo !!! De a volta por cima e lute pelo seu filho, voce deve isso a voce mesmo. A partir de hoje voce tem mais um aliado nessa sua luta, conte comigo.

Grande abraço e que Deus ilumine seu caminho.

Hirô

“Filho, seu pai não ama você”

Rodrigo Borges — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:12:09 -0200

@Edson de maneira nenhuma ficaria chateado com seu comentário aqui. Até pq a partir do momento que coloquei aqui, é público e estou aberto para qq comentário. Só coloquei para um desabafo, pois não aguantava mais levar isso só comigo. Tenho que confessar que seus comentários me fizeram pensar mais. Só não sei mesmo como lidar com isso depois de 8 meses distante. Mas muito obrigado mesmo pelo comentário.

Também sou pai

Edson — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:06:15 AM -0500

Oi Rodrigo,

cara, eu também sou pai e não sei se conseguiria tomar tal decisão. Entendo seus motivos e até concordo com eles. Mas eu não teria conseguido suportar essa vida por muito tempo. Hoje meu filho é o que mais importante há para mim.

Sendo uma pessoa diferente, certamente teria tomado atitudes diferentes das suas logo no começo, mas compreendo também seus motivos e acho razoáveis. Pessoas erram.

No entanto, penso que além de amar, os pais têm como dever educar os filhos e acho que algumas lições muito boas que voce pode ensiná-lo são justamente a de persistência, perseverança e amor incondicional. Não importa se é incômodo, se é mal falado ou se as ações dele não condizem. Importa o que voce sente por ele e que voce pode ensiná-lo que isso é importante também. Não é um caminho fácil, mas criar filhos nunca é.

Pense se no futuro voce vai querer ler um post dele num blog falando de voce assim:

"Meu pai biológico, cansou de tentar me fazer gostar dele e parou de me procurar. Sei que em parte foi minha culpa, mas hoje, após tantos anos, ainda sinto que perdi algo por conta disso (...)"

ou

"Uma coisa que meu pai biológico me ensinou foi a nunca desistir das coisas que são mais importantes pra mim. Ele continuou tentando e tendando, certamente em vão, mas não abdicou de me ter a seu lado, mesmo que tudo conspirasse contra. Não sei o que penso exatamente sobre ele, mas foi um bom exemplo que tive (...)"

Não considere esse comentários como palpite ou sugestão. É só minha opinião a respeito, conhecendo a situação a partir de seu post acima. E, de fato, sob sua pele, só voce pode saber o que está acontecendo realmente...

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Aline — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:32:37 -0200

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Edson — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:03:47 PM -0500

Hehe, that was really nice!!!

Every weekend, same history...

Leandro Lima — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:51:43 PM -0500

Borges,

I need to share with everyone the real facts...

Mrs. Bear direct you to stay on the bed until she wake up. This is not an option for you. At maximum, you can go to the bathroom and prepare her breakfast, nothing else.

Btw, you're nice friends and this pic is really funny. Also, you look a little bit heavier than that.,. Take care!

[]s,

Lima

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Edson — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:17:23 AM -0500

Hahahahaha! Great funny picture!!!

Every weekend, same history...

Daniel Scumparim — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:00:47 AM -0500

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I have two hibernating bears at home also...

I like to sleep early and wake up before the sun, my lovely wife and my little girl hand awake for a little wile and get up mid day...

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Leda — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:35:31 AM -0500

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Just joking.

I am the happiest woman in the world because I found a true love, a friend, a lover, Rodrigo is everything to me! And he really waits for me on weekends!

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Rodrigo Borges — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:06:43 -0200

@1, @2, @3, @4: Hey, we have a good discussion here. I really liked all your POV. I'm sure this topic will never have an end.

All your comments and others news I've read made me conclusion: I definitely don't believe in Creationism and never will let my son study at a school that teaches only it as the true, but I agree that our children must learn the both sides. This is because they have to decide their paths themselves. I'm pretty confident that everybody that learn both theories will see in a short time that we don't have how to believe on Creationism anymore.

@5: I'll try to keep all post in English;

@6: EXCELLENT comment. Few days ago I was discussing that with my wife and friends. Specifically about geography: I'm sure the schools are not teaching this discipline like we had in the past. I know a lot of teenagers that have no idea how many states we have here in Brazil, their capitals, main rivers, and this list is endless. I remember I had to know all these when I was a student. Like you, I don't want my son thinking that Hugo Chavez was a hero...

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Mario Costa — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:46:11 AM -0500

I was wondering how could I answer to this topic ... and decided to go the long way. My concern with what is being teached in schools today goes beyond Darwin and the christianism.

I'm worried about how history and geography (among others) are being teached as well. Che Guevara and Fidel Castro being described as heroes and this kind of stuff. I wonder if my three year old son will be teached in the future how wonderfull Mr. Hugo Chavez was (argh!).

There are many aspects in the schools today coming from social and cultural aspects of our society. I guess this is ok ... I will have my son in a school that teaches what I believe (or at least I will try to do so), so he will never attend a school where creationism is named as the truth and evolutionism is discarded. But I guess it is OK to have schools teaching it if there are parents willing to have their children on it.

So, first of all, parents should realize that the School is an AID to children education. We, parents, must take part of it, starting from choosing a school that teaches what we believe in.

After that, I believe that Science and religion could (should!) couple better. To be specific on christianism, I believe it could be much more open than they are now. I never understood what could be so wrong on accepting evolutionism, only that the evolutionism itself would have been created by God.

I told you it was the long way ... :)

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Tainá — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:38:14 AM -0500

Não pode ser tudo em portuguêssss???

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Daniel Scumparim — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:17:07 PM -0500

My dear Luiz Mendes. I do not agree with your approach. Besides the fact that I do not believe in creationism as an scientific fact, but most of it from a believe or hypothesis, the schools should, yes, teach it among the other theories. Let's look at the facts:

1) there are millions of people that believe in creationism, also, there are many forms and levels of the creationism. Indeed, if anyone believe that a supreme being creates the universe (not related to the species), this person believe in one form o creationism

2) To have the real knowledge, we must know almost all the points of view, this way we may judge for ourselfes

3) there are many theories that was created somehow in history, them put behing, then called back after many years... See Nikola Tesla, The new findings that the chinese discover the america many years before spain, Mendel's theory of Celular Segregation was discussed only many years after his death, (nos based on DNA). Even the DNA iself was discovered only in 1953, so until this event the evolution of species was only based on observation of development, but nobody could tell for sure how that happend...

So, concluding, I belive that schoold must teach and show all theories and believes, and let our children decide that they will choose or not...

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Luiz Mendes — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:53:41 AM -0500

Answering your question; Do you agree that the schools have to keep teaching science based on creationism instead of Darwinism? No I do not agree ! Maybe a mix between both? No, definitely not . I will try to explain defending my point of view. First of all creationism is not a science if you or someone else would like to teach theses things MUST not be in the school.

Many people misuse the word THEORY using in a wrong way, before to build a THEORY there are many steps;

hypothesis - consists of a SUGGESTED explanation for an observable phenomenon or of a reasoned proposal predicting a POSSIBLE causal correlation among multiple phenomena.

Law - It is just a system of rules. It should not explain anything it will just work defined by the law.

After many study,tests, apply different methologies, prove using differents approachs become the theory .

theory - is a unifying principle that explains a body of facts and the laws based on them. In other words, it is an explanation to a set of observations.

For example the THEORY of Evolution :

The evidence for historical evolution -- genetic, fossil, anatomical, etc. -- is so overwhelming that it is also considered a fact. The theory of evolution describes the mechanisms that cause evolution. So evolution is both a fact and a theory.

There was many issues that science was not able to explain and now the gaps are decreasing...

Concluding:

The hypothesis is for guessing, as theory is for facts

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Eduardo — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:49:51 AM -0500

I think the school itself is not right the way it is today. In my opinion, the children should learn HOW to study and how to find the answer, and not WHAT to learn. But the question regards the current school system, so my apologies.

IMO, in the current school system, it should teach the basics, like local language, mathematics and phylosofy, and so people would be able to discern mitology from history, spiritual awareness from faith misleading and hopefully differ scientific Theory from Hypothetical thinking.

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Daniel Scumparim — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:32:43 AM -0500

Hello,

You forgot the spontaneous generation theory. “The common sense of the old ones (and even of some modern) said that the Sun turned around the Land and that the flies were born of the garbage in decomposition. As this belief would exist beings that were generated by other similar beings, as we for example, and beings that appeared spontaneously of the not alive substance. This hypothesis was accepted for much people but, in century 13, it was rejected by Tomás de Aquino Saint, whom it preferred to believe simultaneously that all the beings would have been created for God. The spontaneous generation passed to be considered heretical by the religious authorities. Thus exactly, it in general continued to be adopted by the people and philosophers, atheists or not, as Renê Descartes and Francis Bacon.” Source: { Link }

And, before Darwin, we had Galileu, Newton, Spallanzani, Pasteur, and other that proved that the spontaneous generation was not true, and that a living being could not be born from not living material (or from another living bean). And only in 1959 we had Darwing to put a end on this search.

About your question, like all king of sciences, I believe that schools must teach all points of view, show the evidences (or the lack of they), and let children decide and think for themselves.

I’m catholic, but I believe in the species evolution theory, what I think is that there is always a question that science can’t answer, and for that we go to a supreme being or force. In addition to that, other religious scientists believe that the creationism is more related to the soul, and not flesh.

Concluding, my opinion is that the schools should teach all the theories and let people develop their brains ;-)

Regards,

Daniel Scumparim

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Rodrigo Borges — Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:08:57 AM -0500

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Daniel Scumparim — Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:03:01 AM -0500

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