Comments for presbymergent http://presbymergent.org loyal radicals... Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:41:42 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 PresbymergentCommentshttp://feedburner.google.com Comment on PC(USA) Awards Grants to Two presbymergent Communities by Shaukat Channan http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/10/pcusa-awards-grants-to-two-presbymergent-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-2746 Shaukat Channan Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:41:42 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/10/pcusa-awards-grants-to-two-presbymergent-communities/#comment-2746 Dear Mr/Ms Greetings from Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries - Pakistan ! I feel pleasure to introduce the “Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries” abbreviated (ACFM) a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic gathering of believers committed to making disciples for the purpose of reaching the world. Recognizing that the Bible is the very word of the Living God to man, and understanding the priority of knowing and obeying its truths, ACFM- Pakistan is deeply committed to studying and teaching Scripture with diligence and authority. ACFM-Pakistan is formulated by keeping in view the worst and miserable condition of Human Rights, and women rights in Pakistan and especially in the southern Punjab the most neglected area of Punjab - Pakistan . In last three months 2009, 68 women are burnt alive, 60 women were burnt with fine and 8 were burnt on throwing the Acid on their face and body. ACFM-Pakistan is dedicated to provide the awareness and education about Human Rights and to take stand against all kind of Human Rights violation. ACFM-Pakistan focuses on these issues, Home Ministry, Sunday Schools Ministry, Sponsor a child Ministry, Bible study Ministry, Conventions, Adult Literacy Centers Ministry, Vocational Training Centers for Women, Economic Development program for People, Education for all men and women, Awareness raising seminars about HIV/Aids, Awareness raising seminars about Human Rights, Inter-Faith Harmony and Peace. The ACFM-Pakistan bears the dream of a just and prospers society; to make our dream true we look forward to your precious advice, moral and financial support to achieve our goal. Looking forward to your reply, Best regards, Sincerely, Mr. Shaukat Channan Chairman Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries - Pakistan House # 50, Street # 2, New Christian Colony, Gulzar Town near Gul Gashat Post Office, Multan, 60000, Punjab , Pakistan . Phone: + 92 – 61 – 65112364 Cell: + 92 – 332 - 6168435 Email: acfm_pakistan@yahoo.com Dear Mr/Ms

Greetings from Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries – Pakistan !

I feel pleasure to introduce the “Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries” abbreviated (ACFM) a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic gathering of believers committed to making disciples for the purpose of reaching the world. Recognizing that the Bible is the very word of the Living God to man, and understanding the priority of knowing and obeying its truths, ACFM- Pakistan is deeply committed to studying and teaching Scripture with diligence and authority.

ACFM-Pakistan is formulated by keeping in view the worst and miserable condition of Human Rights, and women rights in Pakistan and especially in the southern Punjab the most neglected area of Punjab – Pakistan . In last three months 2009, 68 women are burnt alive, 60 women were burnt with fine and 8 were burnt on throwing the Acid on their face and body. ACFM-Pakistan is dedicated to provide the awareness and education about Human Rights and to take stand against all kind of Human Rights violation.

ACFM-Pakistan focuses on these issues, Home Ministry, Sunday Schools Ministry, Sponsor a child Ministry, Bible study Ministry, Conventions, Adult Literacy Centers Ministry, Vocational Training Centers for Women, Economic Development program for People, Education for all men and women, Awareness raising seminars about HIV/Aids, Awareness raising seminars about Human Rights, Inter-Faith Harmony and Peace.

The ACFM-Pakistan bears the dream of a just and prospers society; to make our dream true we look forward to your precious advice, moral and financial support to achieve our goal.

Looking forward to your reply,

Best regards,

Sincerely,

Mr. Shaukat Channan

Chairman

Ambassadors of Christ Fellowship Ministries – Pakistan

House # 50, Street # 2, New Christian Colony,

Gulzar Town near Gul Gashat Post Office,

Multan, 60000, Punjab , Pakistan .

Phone: + 92 – 61 – 65112364

Cell: + 92 – 332 – 6168435

Email: acfm_pakistan@yahoo.com

]]> Comment on A Young Adult Ministry Proposal by Marilyn Donnelly http://presbymergent.org/2009/09/02/young-adult-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-2744 Marilyn Donnelly Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:56:07 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=518#comment-2744 What were the results of the October 2009 planned meeting? What were the results of the October 2009 planned meeting?

]]> Comment on Sacred Space: Why I’m Bi-Vocational by Paul Blakesley http://presbymergent.org/2009/08/13/sacred-space-why-im-bi-vocational/comment-page-1/#comment-2743 Paul Blakesley Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:32:12 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=504#comment-2743 This is a really interesting and encouraging thought. Having received my MDIV from Fuller (and the debt to boot!) last year, now working full time as a youth director, and supporting my wife working on her PsyD, I feel like part time ministry and part time work else where just could not pay the bills. But I dream often of part time youth ministry and another vocation - a cook, bar tender, or a teacher are at the top of my list! But I am just unable to move past the financial impossibilities! I wish the church would be more supporting of ordained pastors as well as non-ordained church leadership to be able to do something like this. It might narrow the gap between church leadership and laity, as well as the churched and the unchurched. This is a really interesting and encouraging thought. Having received my MDIV from Fuller (and the debt to boot!) last year, now working full time as a youth director, and supporting my wife working on her PsyD, I feel like part time ministry and part time work else where just could not pay the bills. But I dream often of part time youth ministry and another vocation – a cook, bar tender, or a teacher are at the top of my list! But I am just unable to move past the financial impossibilities! I wish the church would be more supporting of ordained pastors as well as non-ordained church leadership to be able to do something like this. It might narrow the gap between church leadership and laity, as well as the churched and the unchurched.

]]> Comment on Who is the Jesus we Portray in Worship? by dave montei http://presbymergent.org/2009/10/13/who-is-the-jesus-we-portray-in-worship/comment-page-1/#comment-2734 dave montei Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:49:48 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=550#comment-2734 My Pastor often reminds us to prepare or hearts before church, to clear out our thought patterns on our drive to church, so when we do enter into worship we have increased our ability to receive. This is done by an act of faith. To come before the Father expectantly. My Pastor often reminds us to prepare or hearts before church, to clear out our thought patterns on our drive to church, so when we do enter into worship we have increased our ability to receive. This is done by an act of faith. To come before the Father expectantly.

]]> Comment on Who is the Jesus we Portray in Worship? by John Sterner http://presbymergent.org/2009/10/13/who-is-the-jesus-we-portray-in-worship/comment-page-1/#comment-2732 John Sterner Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:09:16 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=550#comment-2732 I've discovered that most of the passion in the worship is internal. I can be in the greatest worship service and not worship. Likewise, I can worship passionately in a "dull" worship service. I’ve discovered that most of the passion in the worship is internal. I can be in the greatest worship service and not worship. Likewise, I can worship passionately in a “dull” worship service.

]]> Comment on Who is the Jesus we Portray in Worship? by Donna G http://presbymergent.org/2009/10/13/who-is-the-jesus-we-portray-in-worship/comment-page-1/#comment-2731 Donna G Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:57:55 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=550#comment-2731 Ahhh. Would you come speak to our worship committee/team lol... It seems as if communicators of the Good News, myself included, have often forgotten that the method isn't the message. That said, I think we also need to explore what worship is about, too. It isn't about us. Or what we feel. Or what we like. Often times we expect worship to give us something. But it is really about giving something. Giving something back to the One who gives us everything and gave Everything. I'd like to say that it is an act of gratitude but honestly, some of the most passionate worship experiences for me have been those where I have gone to worship out of obedience rather than desire. 'God. I don't really want to do this today, I'd really rather sit here in the warmth than go out in the cold, wet morning. You already know that. Your Word says You desire obedience and that is all I can bring this morning. Today it is a sacrifice from an unwilling heart. Bless my obedience. Forgive my unwillingness.' How great is our God who can take my grudging obedience and make it into resounding praise. It is good to feel uplifted by our worship, but it is not necessary. It is counter-cultural but true. It is something we must learn, re-learn and share with others. Ahhh. Would you come speak to our worship committee/team lol…

It seems as if communicators of the Good News, myself included, have often forgotten that the method isn’t the message.

That said, I think we also need to explore what worship is about, too. It isn’t about us. Or what we feel. Or what we like. Often times we expect worship to give us something. But it is really about giving something. Giving something back to the One who gives us everything and gave Everything. I’d like to say that it is an act of gratitude but honestly, some of the most passionate worship experiences for me have been those where I have gone to worship out of obedience rather than desire.

‘God. I don’t really want to do this today, I’d really rather sit here in the warmth than go out in the cold, wet morning. You already know that. Your Word says You desire obedience and that is all I can bring this morning. Today it is a sacrifice from an unwilling heart. Bless my obedience. Forgive my unwillingness.’

How great is our God who can take my grudging obedience and make it into resounding praise.

It is good to feel uplifted by our worship, but it is not necessary. It is counter-cultural but true. It is something we must learn, re-learn and share with others.

]]> Comment on Give it the Good Ol’ 10% by job opportunities http://presbymergent.org/2007/04/03/give-it-the-old-10/comment-page-1/#comment-2729 job opportunities Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:47:03 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/2007/04/03/give-it-the-old-10/#comment-2729 No es lo mismo degustar un coctel en un vaso com�n y sin ning�n tipo de decoraci�n, que beberlo en un recipiente el cual ha sido preparado con ciertos elementos que lo hacen m�s apetitoso.

]]> Comment on A Young Adult Ministry Proposal by Juliann http://presbymergent.org/2009/09/02/young-adult-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-2723 Juliann Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:54:02 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=518#comment-2723 As a parent to a young adult who is struggling to find a place in the Presbyterian church post college, I applaud your efforts and will be praying that this trend will spread through our denomination. As a parent to a young adult who is struggling to find a place in the Presbyterian church post college, I applaud your efforts and will be praying that this trend will spread through our denomination.

]]> Comment on A Tickle In Our Ears by David Gambrell http://presbymergent.org/2009/08/29/a-tickle-in-our-ears/comment-page-1/#comment-2703 David Gambrell Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:08:02 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=513#comment-2703 This is good stuff. Thanks for posting the video, and for the clever introduction. I resolve to use no hyphens whatsoever in my writing for the rest of the day. This is good stuff. Thanks for posting the video, and for the clever introduction. I resolve to use no hyphens whatsoever in my writing for the rest of the day.

]]> Comment on A Tickle In Our Ears by Bob Pearson http://presbymergent.org/2009/08/29/a-tickle-in-our-ears/comment-page-1/#comment-2702 Bob Pearson Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:16:50 +0000 http://presbymergent.org/?p=513#comment-2702 I actually think she is raising a good point but I believe her timeline is way off. No existing denominational body can possibly act in 18 months. Heck Ga only meets every two years now. If we are lucky we can expect to begin to see some movement in a decade and perhaps not reach full acceptance and transformation for a century. Yet we must continue to act with a sense of urgency and work for each small victory or twitch of the larger body. I actually think she is raising a good point but I believe her timeline is way off. No existing denominational body can possibly act in 18 months. Heck Ga only meets every two years now. If we are lucky we can expect to begin to see some movement in a decade and perhaps not reach full acceptance and transformation for a century. Yet we must continue to act with a sense of urgency and work for each small victory or twitch of the larger body.

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