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		<title>Beyond Pastor-ly Musings – need your thoughts!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot about this whole blog thing that has been great, when I have and make the time to write.  Trouble is, I want to move beyond my own pastor-ly musings to broaden the topics and issues that may appeal.  Not to mention challenge me to keep at this whole thing.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot about this whole blog thing that has been great, when I have and make the time to write.  Trouble is, I want to move beyond my own pastor-ly musings to broaden the topics and issues that may appeal.  Not to mention challenge me to keep at this whole thing.<br />
So, I am asking for your input on future blog posts.  You will help keep me working on this and keeping it fresh.  My goal is to post twice a week, if I get enough ideas from people, that is.<br />
So please, send me your ideas at <em>pastor.kent@christusvictor.org</em> and I will start working on them later this week.<br />
Thanks for your feedback!</p>
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		<title>Ways Churches Grow (or don’t)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been rereading a great book from the Alban Institute called, &#8220;More than numbers: the ways churches grow.&#8221;
Author, Loren Mead, lays out four different ways churches grow, or don&#8217;t grow, as the case may be.  Those ways are:

Numerical Growth &#8211; membership, attendance, participation, financial support, and budgets
Maturational Growth &#8211; spiritual growth in maturity of faith [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been rereading a great book from the <a href="http://www.alban.org">Alban Institute</a> called, &#8220;More than numbers: the ways churches grow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Author, Loren Mead, lays out four different ways churches grow, or don&#8217;t grow, as the case may be.  Those ways are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Numerical Growth &#8211; membership, attendance, participation, financial support, and budgets</li>
<li>Maturational Growth &#8211; spiritual growth in maturity of faith and living as disciples of Jesus Christ</li>
<li>Organic Growth &#8211; organizational growth, the structures, discipleship and leadership processes, and even facilities meeting missional needs</li>
<li>Incarnational Growth &#8211; missional growth in serving the needs of people in the community and around the world (this includes Evangelism, which is also connected to Maturational Growth).</li>
</ul>
<p>While numbers, or the bottom line, are the things we focus on the most, as we have been taught by our culture, that is only one indicator of growth, or even health in a church.  All four aspects of church health and growth are needed for a truly growing and vibrant congregation.</p>
<p>The information and discussion questions in Mead&#8217;s book line up nicely with the research and the international ministry of <a href="http://www.ncd-international.org">Natural Church Development </a>.  They take a holistic and principle based approach to church growth and health.  Churches need to look honestly at all aspects of their ministry, identifying both their strengths and weaknesses.  Then they can address steps to improve and strengthen those areas that are hindering the whole ministry of the church.</p>
<p>In preparing for and reviewing the accomplishments and goals of the many committees of the church, looking at the church budget and our stewardship trends, reflecting on the faithful work of those council members stepping down, and on the new council members stepping up as servant leaders of our church, I am struck by the fact that we are a work in progress at Christus Victor.  God has done, and continues to do, wonderful things through the ministries of our church and in the faith and life of members and those we serve in our community and around the world.  And yet, we are called to follow Jesus, which means being open to change and being changed for the sake of the Gospel and the Kingdom of God.  One of my goals this coming year is to take stock of where we are and where we need to grow, change, and improve for the sake of the whole ministry of the church, that we may listen to God and follow where the Spirit leads.</p>
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		<title>Put your gifts from the Spirit to use helping others</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While literally millions of Amercians in desparate need of physical activity, especially those in Minnesota and Texas, will be eagerly watching a small number of people exert themselves in amazing physical ways on the football field.  No small amount of pizza, wings, chips, and beverages will be consumed, and along with that not small amount [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While literally millions of Amercians in desparate need of physical activity, especially those in Minnesota and Texas, will be eagerly watching a small number of people exert themselves in amazing physical ways on the football field.  No small amount of pizza, wings, chips, and beverages will be consumed, and along with that not small amount of money spent.  Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in Haiti are experiencing a living hell in the aftermath of the earthquake that hit their country last week.  Perhaps this is the time to put our gifts from the Spirit to use in helping others, instead of just helping ourselves to another nacho with chili-cheese dip?</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit</em>,&#8221; writes Paul, who goes on to say, &#8220;<em>To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good&#8221;</em> (1 Cor. 12: 4 &amp; 7).</p>
<p>Now is the time for us to stop watching and listening to what others are doing or not doing to help, and get in the &#8220;game&#8221; of using our gifts, given to us by the Spirit, not for ourselves, but for our neighbors in need.  I know so many people who already use their many gifts of time, talents, and treasures to the glory of God in service to their neighbors near and far.  These saints and servants of Christ put me to shame for my own sloth and selfishness.  Here is another time for us to put our gifts from the Spirit to use helping other, and here are some options&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.elca.org">ELCA Lutheran World Relief</a> - direct financial aid!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fmsc.org">Feed My Starving Children </a>- direct financial aid and opportunities to work side by side with others to fill bags and boxes of food!</p>
<p>As more opportunites and needs arise over the coming weeks, months, and years, I will let people know other ways they can help.  And through it all, keep the people of Haiti, and all those who are helping and serving, directly and indirectly, in your daily prayers!</p>
<p>In times of tragedy and massive need, I are reminded how much I am blessed, and that there are more ways I can all serve and help my neighbors in need.  The challenge is to keep on serving and helping, even when our attention is distracted by the next sensational disaster or event.</p>
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		<title>Perceiving New Things</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do not remember the former things, or consider the things of old.  I am about to do a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it? (Isaiah 43: 18&#38;19)
We are on the cusp of the start of a new year, at least according to the calendar.  I really think the year ends [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do not remember the former things, or consider the things of old.  I am about to do a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it? (Isaiah 43: 18&amp;19)</em></p>
<p>We are on the cusp of the start of a new year, at least according to the calendar.  I really think the year ends when school gets out in the spring, then we enter into an in-between time before the new year begins on the first day of school in the fall.  For me, it is because the church year of ministries and programs closely follows the school year.  In any event, it is a random and arbirtrary day to pick when one thing ends and another begins.</p>
<p>It seems that the issue is not so much the date on the calendar, the time on the clock, or the ball in Times Square, but to our ability to perceive the &#8220;new thing.&#8221;  Is God really doing something new in our lives and our world, or is it just the same-old thing?  Am I really a new creation, or just the same old messed up person?  Do I see signs of peace, justice, mercy, forgiveness, and love in the world, or is it all greed, hate, violence, and evil? </p>
<p>It seems to depend on our spiritual perception, rather than our physical and temporal perceptions, which is just a fancy-schmancy way of saying it depends on prayer and the spiritual practice called &#8220;discernment.&#8221;  All of which is about paying attention to what God is doing, which also includes learning and remembering what God has done and promises to do in the future.  For me, I am glad that the Church continues to celebrate Christmas into this arbitrary New Year, to remind me of what God has done, is doing, and will do through Jesus Christ.  For if I can perceive Christ at work in my own life and in the lives of those around me, I can also begin to perceive Christ at work in the world, bringing into being God&#8217;s Kingdom on earth.</p>
<p>May God bless you and give you the gift of discernment and the ability to perceive the &#8220;new things&#8221; of Christ this New Year!</p>
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		<title>Danger, Danger!!  We’re going to open the Bible!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did I get your attention?  Good.
It is a dangerous thing when we open the Bible and begin to read, for in and through these words, written and translated by many different people throughout the ages, God in fact speaks to us and does something to and with us.  This book, this Word of God, both [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I get your attention?  Good.</p>
<p>It is a dangerous thing when we open the Bible and begin to read, for in and through these words, written and translated by many different people throughout the ages, God in fact speaks to us and does something to and with us.  This book, this Word of God, both kills us and gives us life.  Hence the whole &#8220;danger&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>Which makes me so glad that there are five adult small groups, risking the &#8220;dangers&#8221; of the Bible, gathering together each month for Bible study.  They are learning about different characters and stories of the Bible, or looking deeply at one book of the Bible, or learning more about a particular theme that runs throughout the Bible.  All of which, I hope, is helping them grow in their understanding of what God is trying to tell them and do to them, both as individuals and as a group.  And not only in their understanding of what God has said and done in the past, but more importantly what God is saying and doing today to draw people into a faith relationship with Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>On Sunday, Dec. 6, we began the first of our series on &#8220;How Lutherans Interpret the Bible,&#8221; as part of our church&#8217;s process to study and discuss the Biblical texts at the center of the controversy over the ELCA resolutions.  And I am grateful that so many people attended the first session, and hopefully will follow through on all of the rest.   Or, if people are not able to attend on Sundays, that they sign up to attend the Thursday classes starting in mid-January (sign up at the info desk!).</p>
<p>It is hard work, and risky, when we gather together to discuss both how different people approach and understand the Bible.  It becomes even more challenging and risky, when we have clarified in our own mind and heart, to then begin to share how we approach and understand the Bible.  The ante goes up further when we listen and hear other Christians who have a different approach and understanding of the Bible, which leads them to interpret things differently from ourselves.  As if that doesn&#8217;t cause people to faint with trepidation, God promises to show up in our dialog and discussion, to say to us exactly what God wants to say to all of us, and, as often happens, transform all of our understandings to bring us closer to God&#8217;s will and heart.  As Mark Allen Powell reminds us, the Bible gives us Jesus Christ, the Living Word of God!</p>
<p>For those who wish to go a little deeper in pondering questions related to our interpretations and approaches to the Bible I strongly recommend this article by <a title="Biblical Interpretation" href="http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=2104">Prof. Walter Brueggemann</a> on Biblical Authority and the Church.  It is well worth the slow, careful read.</p>
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		<title>“How Lutherans Interpret the Bible” and the ELCA Resolutions</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The follow-up Study and Discussion Sessions on the Biblical and Theological issues surrounding the ELCA resolutions regarding same-sex relationships and homosexual clergy will be starting up in December!  There will be two sessions offered, one on Sunday mornings starting on December 6 for the Adult Forum at 9:45am, and one on Thursday evenings starting on January [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The follow-up Study and Discussion Sessions on the Biblical and Theological issues surrounding the ELCA resolutions regarding same-sex relationships and homosexual clergy will be starting up in December!  There will be two sessions offered, one on Sunday mornings starting on December 6 for the Adult Forum at 9:45am, and one on Thursday evenings starting on January 14 at 7:00pm.  *PLEASE SIGN UP AT THE INFORMATION DESK &#8211; or &#8211; email me at <a href="mailto:pastor.kent@christusvictor.org">pastor.kent@christusvictor.org</a>.</p>
<p>We will be using Mark Allen Powell&#8217;s series &#8220;How Lutherans Interpret the Bible&#8221; to give us a foundation to work from as we begin to address the Biblical texts in question.  The seven sessions will cover:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Word of God</li>
<li>What Lutherans Say About the Bible</li>
<li>Where the Bible Comes From</li>
<li>Interpreting the Bible in Context</li>
<li>Determining Right from Wrong</li>
<li>The Many Meanings of the Bible</li>
<li>Devotional Bible Reading</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Sunday Forum Schedule</strong>: Dec. 6, Dec. 13, Jan. 10, (Jan. 17 &#8211; Committee Fair; Jan. 24 &#8211; Annual Meeting), Jan. 31, Feb. 7, Feb. 14.</p>
<p><strong>Thursday Evening Schedule</strong>: Jan. 14, Jan. 21, Jan. 28, Feb. 4, Feb. 11, Feb. 18, Mar. 4</p>
<p>Please contact me if you have any questions about this series. </p>
<p>It is my deep hope and prayer that a large number of Christus Victor members and all interested people will take the opportunity to learn more about the Bible and our Lutheran Theology, to help guide and shape our discussions and discernment when we confront any disagreement over the intrepretation and application of the Scriptures in our individual and communal lives of faith as disciples of Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>An open letter to the church in response to a note from a church member.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(*This is not just a response to one letter from a church member, but to the many emails and notes I have received from church members in regards to the ELCA resolutions.  Our church members do not easily fall into clearly defined categories, but represent a broad spectrum of beliefs and opinions on these matters. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><em>(*This is not just a response to one letter from a church member, but to the many emails and notes I have received from church members in regards to the ELCA resolutions.  Our church members do not easily fall into clearly defined categories, but represent a broad spectrum of beliefs and opinions on these matters.  I offer this to those who are looking for a quick or easy fix to the problems facing the church, especially those who are looking for the &#8220;right answer&#8221; from me.)</em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">To my friend in Christ,</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">My grandpa always quoted this Native American proverb:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“<em>Don’t judge anyone until you have walked many miles in their moccasins.</em>”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Another is like it, “<em>Seek to understand before you seek to be understood.</em>”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In the best of times putting these proverbs into practice is difficult.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When we are dealing with deeply held beliefs, it is even more difficult if not next to impossible.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So, I thank you for sharing your beliefs, concerns, and thoughts with me.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">I appreciate the proverb you shared with me: “<em>Vision without action is only a dream.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Action without vision is a waste of time.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Vision and action can change the world</em>.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I appreciate your call for a clear vision for the church, along with clear actions to change the world.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I believe that is exactly what Jesus Christ came to accomplish through his death and resurrection, and give to us to fulfill, as difficult as it is for us to accept and to do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus taught us the Greatest Commandments, “<em>Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This is the greatest and first commandment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And a second is like it; You shall love your neighbor as yourself</em>” (Matthew 22: 37-40).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Without God’s grace in Jesus Christ, I would not be able to even try to live out these greatest commandments in my life.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Every Sunday I do my best to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I have no illusions that everyone agrees with everything I say, nor do I make the mistake that I can make anyone believe or do anything that they don’t want to.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This church is full of people who believe and do all sorts of different things, some of which I am OK with, and some I am not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But I can no more make someone a Christian than I can make it rain or the sun shine.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That is up to God and the Holy Spirit to do.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">It is the responsibility and burden of the Christian disciples/members of Christus Victor to interpret and apply what the Bible says to our ministry, mission, and shared life together.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This was given to the Church by Christ Jesus himself, referred to as “the keys of the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 16: 18-19 and Matthew 18: 18-20).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>What is black and white to you is not black and white to other Christians who take the Bible as seriously as you do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>What is not open to interpretation for you is open to interpretation for others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The most important thing in the midst of our disagreements is not who will win and who will lose in our disagreements, but where is God leading us through the Holy Spirit by faith in Jesus Christ?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">No one can <strong>make </strong>the members of this church do or believe anything.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Not the government, not the ELCA, and most certainly not me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In fact the ELCA resolutions give it back to each individual church to make their own decisions on the blessing of same-sex relationships and the calling of homosexual pastors.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It would not be by a simple majority either, but a 2/3rds majority to make any changes to our constitution, or even in the calling of a pastor.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So, I personally see no reason to hold a church vote to make any changes to our constitution at this time, and we are not going to be calling a pastor any time soon either.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">However, it is clear to me that a significant number of our church members <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">do</span></strong> want to have a vote on these issues, both those that agree and those that disagree with the ELCA resolutions.  A growing number of our members want to &#8220;take a stand,&#8221; and I can tell you with great certainty that there is <strong>not</strong> a 2/3rds majority on either side of this issue!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Therefore, at some point in the near future it will come back to you and all of the disciples/members of Christus Victor to state and vote on what you believe.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And after the vote everyone will have to decide whether they will stay at Christus Victor to work and serve together as disciples of Jesus Christ, or seek another church to join.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Either way, it seems pretty certain that we will lose members and their gifts of service, leadership, and offerings, which will damage all of the ministries and mission of the church that we have worked so hard to build and grow.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">So I am trying to listen to the Holy Spirit, trust in God to lead and guide us, hold onto the love and grace of Jesus Christ, and leave this in the hands of the disciples/members of CV to decide.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">This is probably more than you were expecting, but your letter brought forth a lot of the things I have been dwelling on and struggling with these past few months.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Yours in Christ,</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Pastor Kent Claussen Gubrud</span></span></p>
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		<title>Christ the King and Consecration Sunday</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems almost ironic that we would be celebrating Christ the King Sunday and have the consecration of our pledges on the same day.  On this Christ the King Sunday we acknowledge that Jesus Christ reigns over all; that Jesus is our King; that all of the powers, nations, and rulers of the earth [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems almost ironic that we would be celebrating Christ the King Sunday and have the consecration of our pledges on the same day.  On this Christ the King Sunday we acknowledge that Jesus Christ reigns over all; that Jesus is our King; that all of the powers, nations, and rulers of the earth will both bow down to Him; that no power, nation, or ruler will come before our Lord, Jesus Christ in our lives.  This includes money.<br />
Money has a huge power over us.  We need it to buy the things we need to survive from day to day, and subsequently, whether we are conscious of it or not, instead of believing and trusting in God to give us our daily bread, we look to our job and even ourselves as the source of all we need.  Instead of Jesus ruling in our lives, money and the pursuit of money rules instead.  Such a subtle temptation to idolatry.<br />
But when we intentionally give our money to God through our offerings, we are making a faith statement.  It is God who gives us our daily bread, it is Jesus to whom we own our life and give our allegiance, and our offerings, our pledges, are a sign and symbol of our faith and fidelity to Christ our King.<br />
So on this Christ the King Sunday, when we bring our pledges forward to the altar, be thinking of what this means as a real sign of you faith in Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>Listening to each other – Listening to God</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After two informational meetings regarding the ELCA CWA resolutions, I am struck by how hard it is to listen to each other, especially to try and understand a different point of view, interpretation, or belief from our own.  Part of the challenge is internal as we mull over our own views, beliefs, etc. in an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After two informational meetings regarding the ELCA CWA resolutions, I am struck by how hard it is to listen to each other, especially to try and understand a different point of view, interpretation, or belief from our own.  Part of the challenge is internal as we mull over our own views, beliefs, etc. in an attempt to come up with a rebuttal, and some clarity in our own minds about what we believe and why.  In any case listening is hard work, and it is not something we do very well.</p>
<p>I am also struck by the parallels in our difficulties listening to those that are right in front of us, speaking in a language we can understand, about ideas and information that are not totally beyond our comprehension, with our difficulties listening to God.  Listening to God is complicated by the fact that God, though with us, is not literally in front of us, nor speaking a language we can understand (and no I am not referring to the original languages of the Bible, nor necessarily the Bible itself &#8211; but prayer and listening to the &#8220;still small voice&#8221; of God), added to the fact that God is beyond our comprehension and understanding (seriously, who fully comprehends and understands the divine mystery that is the Trinity, the Incarnation, let alone the Resurrection, without faith?).  Yet that is one of the central statements of the Bible and of the Christian faith:  God is constantly communicating with us and we can &#8220;listen&#8221; and respond.</p>
<p>In the midst of our congregations conflict over the ELCA resolutions (not the first conflict nor the last), a significant number of people from both informational meetings want to gather together to study and discuss the Biblical and Theological issues underlying our differences.  This desire to learn, discuss, and struggle with these serious issues of faith and our common life, gives me great hope for our church.  And while I am working on a number of opportunities for people to study and learn, it is also clear to me that we need to learn together to listen to God.  If Christ is at the center of our church (and I know He is), and the Holy Spirit continues to lead and guide us (because Jesus promised), then we had best learn how to listen to God to find our way through these challenges into the future God is calling us into.  Therefore I am looking for a group of people that will commit to meeting with me for six months, starting in January, as part of an international, ecumenical journey of discovery in listening to God.  If you&#8217;d like some more information of what this might entail, please check out the materials on <a href="http://www.johnackerman.org">John Ackerman&#8217;s</a> website.  He is my spiritual director and will be leading and facilitating this discovery process.  This group will be separate from the study groups that I will be offering.  If you are interested, please contact me at church so we can talk more about this opportunity to grow in faith through listening to God.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunday, November 8 at 9:45am &#8211; join us as we gather for an Informational Meeting on the ELCA Church Wide Assembly votes in August.  This will follow the same agenda from the first meeting on October 29:

Opening Prayer and Scripture Reading
Reading of the resolutions
Time for questions and answers regarding the resolutions
Next steps suggested by the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday, November 8 at 9:45am &#8211; join us as we gather for an Informational Meeting on the ELCA Church Wide Assembly votes in August.  This will follow the same agenda from the first meeting on October 29:</p>
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<li>Opening Prayer and Scripture Reading</li>
<li>Reading of the resolutions</li>
<li>Time for questions and answers regarding the resolutions</li>
<li>Next steps suggested by the Thursday group &#8211; input and suggestions for next steps from the Sunday group</li>
<li>Closing scripture reading and prayer</li>
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<p>The 3rd and Final Informational Meeting will be held between service on Sunday, November 29.  If you, or people you know, have not participated in one of these meetings, please encourage them to attend.</p>
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