Comments for Necessary Mutilation http://necessarymutilation.com Daily blog about my Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:12:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Early To Bed, Early To Rise…. by Debbie http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/oSnqWEZ8bJA/ Debbie Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:52:40 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2512#comment-4803 good advice Debra...i know that you can buy almonds in 100 cal packs. I love nuts but try to stay away from them as they are very high in fat, calories and salt and of course carbs. So day 4 is almost over...I weighed in this morning and stayed exactly the same 214.8....kinda bummed about that...but what can i do except move on. I did find though that while eating the ground chicken today...I DID eat quite a bit less. I am not wild about the full feeling after eating ground meat and I am sure chicken and salmon wont feel any better in my pouch. I am comparing it to the full feeling after eating too much carby stuff or softer foods. I guess that is why some people kinda switch to softer foods as they go down easier...I can see why one wouldnt lose weight like that. So today is almost done and I am done eating for the day. On to tomorrow where I will probably eat some chicken and salmon. good advice Debra…i know that you can buy almonds in 100 cal packs. I love nuts but try to stay away from them as they are very high in fat, calories and salt and of course carbs.

So day 4 is almost over…I weighed in this morning and stayed exactly the same 214.8….kinda bummed about that…but what can i do except move on. I did find though that while eating the ground chicken today…I DID eat quite a bit less. I am not wild about the full feeling after eating ground meat and I am sure chicken and salmon wont feel any better in my pouch. I am comparing it to the full feeling after eating too much carby stuff or softer foods. I guess that is why some people kinda switch to softer foods as they go down easier…I can see why one wouldnt lose weight like that. So today is almost done and I am done eating for the day. On to tomorrow where I will probably eat some chicken and salmon.

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/09/early-to-bed-early-to-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-4803 Comment on Early To Bed, Early To Rise…. by Debra Taylor http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/boSxMW8j5xY/ Debra Taylor Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:20:25 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2512#comment-4794 Well, just work to find another replacement "activity." I find that working a crossword puzzle or soduko with an ink pen while I watch TV helps me avoid the urge to snack. Again, we have to get away from using food and food behaviors as the reward or to fill an emotional need...But you can find new celebratory behaviors and "ceremony" with allowable food. Use your other senses, relish the flavors and tastes of your allowed foods slowly, use your best dishes, cloth napkins, or whatever you have to make those allowed meals and snacks feel like luxury. However, FYI: Walmart's Great Value brand makes a nut mix in a can of the carb friendly nuts that is better priced than the leading nut brands. Measure out one serving and make yourself eat one at a time and wait in between. It won't be long before you fill up. Well, just work to find another replacement “activity.” I find that working a crossword puzzle or soduko with an ink pen while I watch TV helps me avoid the urge to snack.
Again, we have to get away from using food and food behaviors as the reward or to fill an emotional need…But you can find new celebratory behaviors and “ceremony” with allowable food. Use your other senses, relish the flavors and tastes of your allowed foods slowly, use your best dishes, cloth napkins, or whatever you have to make those allowed meals and snacks feel like luxury. However, FYI: Walmart’s Great Value brand makes a nut mix in a can of the carb friendly nuts that is better priced than the leading nut brands. Measure out one serving and make yourself eat one at a time and wait in between. It won’t be long before you fill up.

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/09/early-to-bed-early-to-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-4794 Comment on Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by BarbF http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/PBobAc8RUCs/ BarbF Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:59:44 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2510#comment-4793 hahahah! Hope that was you don't recognize anymore is a whiney complaining person. I have been doing some self-searching and realized I was letting other people's attitudes affecct me and I have decided not to do that anymore. Feel freer already just making the decision. Anyway, I'm not sure I would want anyone to think of food as just nutrients and sustenence but something that can be enjoyed in moderation. Talk to you soon! hahahah! Hope that was you don’t recognize anymore is a whiney complaining person. I have been doing some self-searching and realized I was letting other people’s attitudes affecct me and I have decided not to do that anymore. Feel freer already just making the decision. Anyway, I’m not sure I would want anyone to think of food as just nutrients and sustenence but something that can be enjoyed in moderation. Talk to you soon!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/08/woulda-coulda-shoulda/comment-page-1/#comment-4793 Comment on Early To Bed, Early To Rise…. by broadinbuffalo http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/935ZgEsOiGI/ broadinbuffalo Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:02:58 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2512#comment-4783 Crap, really?! Its hard to imagine that one nut would be better in this way than another. How strange! I love all nuts but macadamia (it figures!), so I don't mind doing the others instead, except of course that they cost lots more, AND, you don't get to shell them first, which makes them eaten slower and the whole process feel more luxuriant. I'd like to think that my peanut fests are in part "fun" because of the whole shelling process, and never knowing how the nut inside will be (I especially like the dark and burntish ones!) Wierd, aren't I?! Crap, really?! Its hard to imagine that one nut would be better in this way than another. How strange!
I love all nuts but macadamia (it figures!), so I don’t mind doing the others instead, except of course that they cost lots more, AND, you don’t get to shell them first, which makes them eaten slower and the whole process feel more luxuriant. I’d like to think that my peanut fests are in part “fun” because of the whole shelling process, and never knowing how the nut inside will be (I especially like the dark and burntish ones!)
Wierd, aren’t I?!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/09/early-to-bed-early-to-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-4783 Comment on Early To Bed, Early To Rise…. by Debra Taylor http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/ThUDtJpllZo/ Debra Taylor Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:30:15 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2512#comment-4781 Be careful about peanuts. It would be better to choose lower carb nuts...almonds, macadamia,or cashews are the best for weight loss. Course any protein is good, but I was told to avoid peanuts in favor those listed above. I did find that peanuts slowed the progress whereas the other three did not. Hang in there! Be careful about peanuts. It would be better to choose lower carb nuts…almonds, macadamia,or cashews are the best for weight loss. Course any protein is good, but I was told to avoid peanuts in favor those listed above. I did find that peanuts slowed the progress whereas the other three did not. Hang in there!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/09/early-to-bed-early-to-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-4781 Comment on Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by broad in buffalo http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/uk8apVURO1I/ broad in buffalo Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:54:25 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2510#comment-4778 Good Morning, Barb, Having a love/hate relationship with food is so hard, isn't it. My supervisor, who is tiny skinny and counsels people on eating disorder issues (or so she told me on Friday) and post bariatric people, said that she constantly reminds them that food is nothing more than nutrients, sustenence and such. She has them repeat this as a mantra as a means of seeing food and the eating process differently. She has such a disinterest in food herself, and seems to be able to go days w/o a bite and not even notice her hunger. We have talked before of her lack of motivation around eating. Strange, and so hard to even imagine, huh?! I can't imagine life w/o the thrills and excitement of good food...it just seems as if it would be boring somehow. On the other hand, how nice it would be to have this, w/o the angst, guilt and anxiety. Can't imagine that either, unfortunately. And surgery did nothing for that part of things, unfortunately...altho. I think that I had expected that it would free me of all this, somehow. Well, enjoy the rest of your renewal, but don't get so renewed that I don't recognize you anymore! Good Morning, Barb,
Having a love/hate relationship with food is so hard, isn’t it. My supervisor, who is tiny skinny and counsels people on eating disorder issues (or so she told me on Friday) and post bariatric people, said that she constantly reminds them that food is nothing more than nutrients, sustenence and such. She has them repeat this as a mantra as a means of seeing food and the eating process differently. She has such a disinterest in food herself, and seems to be able to go days w/o a bite and not even notice her hunger. We have talked before of her lack of motivation around eating.
Strange, and so hard to even imagine, huh?! I can’t imagine life w/o the thrills and excitement of good food…it just seems as if it would be boring somehow. On the other hand, how nice it would be to have this, w/o the angst, guilt and anxiety. Can’t imagine that either, unfortunately. And surgery did nothing for that part of things, unfortunately…altho. I think that I had expected that it would free me of all this, somehow.
Well, enjoy the rest of your renewal, but don’t get so renewed that I don’t recognize you anymore!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/08/woulda-coulda-shoulda/comment-page-1/#comment-4778 Comment on Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by BarbF http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/V4Md_rEVbXs/ BarbF Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:10:22 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2510#comment-4761 I know I'm not a BS friend but I have to say that I often feel deprived when people eat things that I can't eat because of my diet. I guess somehow we all have to deal with this struggle and it surely is a struggle. The temptations can be great. I find stress being one of the biggest struggles I have. Like today I did good all day not eating carbs and when a get home I am craving them. I haven't given in but that's when the feeling sorry for myself kicks in. I think Debbie is right you only gained one ounce which could have been the excess salt intake. Overall your week loss is great. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we really didn't enjoy food so much and just ate because we had too. Well, maybe not, I think we were meant to enjoy what we eat so I guess I'll have to face my struggles with reality. I am liking my renewal so I will let you know about Sat. I know I’m not a BS friend but I have to say that I often feel deprived when people eat things that I can’t eat because of my diet. I guess somehow we all have to deal with this struggle and it surely is a struggle. The temptations can be great. I find stress being one of the biggest struggles I have. Like today I did good all day not eating carbs and when a get home I am craving them. I haven’t given in but that’s when the feeling sorry for myself kicks in. I think Debbie is right you only gained one ounce which could have been the excess salt intake. Overall your week loss is great. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we really didn’t enjoy food so much and just ate because we had too. Well, maybe not, I think we were meant to enjoy what we eat so I guess I’ll have to face my struggles with reality. I am liking my renewal so I will let you know about Sat.

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/08/woulda-coulda-shoulda/comment-page-1/#comment-4761 Comment on Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by broad in buffalo http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/mEH5-N_eDsI/ broad in buffalo Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:44:13 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2510#comment-4751 Hi Debbie, Yes, its a bitch, and yes, I had shakes and soup for my 2nd day. Day three I think I had mushy foods. I appreciate your honesty and struggles...I kinda wish that these were written about more so I'd feel less alone and "stupid". I am glad that you are getting such comprehensive support and education, and that you like the team that offers it. I used to go, but encountered some people at my place that I found rude and yucky, and this unfortunately tainted my feelings. I am rather hoping that with the open house that I plan to go to there next weekend and the notation that they have hired new staff, that maybe I will be able to warm up to them again. Clearly I can use all the help I too can get - lol!! Hey, and congrats again for you successes and sticking to it - especially during your friends popcorn fest! Hi Debbie,
Yes, its a bitch, and yes, I had shakes and soup for my 2nd day. Day three I think I had mushy foods.
I appreciate your honesty and struggles…I kinda wish that these were written about more so I’d feel less alone and “stupid”.
I am glad that you are getting such comprehensive support and education, and that you like the team that offers it. I used to go, but encountered some people at my place that I found rude and yucky, and this unfortunately tainted my feelings.
I am rather hoping that with the open house that I plan to go to there next weekend and the notation that they have hired new staff, that maybe I will be able to warm up to them again. Clearly I can use all the help I too can get - lol!!
Hey, and congrats again for you successes and sticking to it - especially during your friends popcorn fest!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/08/woulda-coulda-shoulda/comment-page-1/#comment-4751 Comment on Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda by Debbie http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/gzs1qrNwTCM/ Debbie Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:06:33 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2510#comment-4750 ok day 2 of liquids is done...scale says 214.8 which is not even a half a pound down...which is ok...today on to soft foods. Did you do protein shakes and soups on the soft protein day too? I can totally relate the the movie theater popcorn lol...I went to see shutter island last night and my friend had this big tub of popcorn with extra butter. OMG I sooooo wanted some but resisted...I felt totally deprived too! We also went out to dinner...Panera Bread...I had a cup of bean soup...darn i wanted that greek salad she was eating. So you see...you arent alone with the feelings of deprevation. I had to go through a bunch of seminars and nutrition classes prior to surgery. I KNEW what I was supposed to eat. Surgeon says absolutely NO chips, popcorn, pretzels or dessert EVER as it brings on old habits. He was right....you start with one chip and it progresses to 2 or 3 and so on. I cant just do one...I just have to learn to not have them anymore. I do go to support group meetings once a month. I actually like them...they have a nutritionist there and a nurse who answers questions and such. They are very helpful to me. While it is a pain in the butt to go...I make myself go just for the very helpful infomration. Plus the surgeon requires that we attend the meetings. so there ya have it...my ramblings for the day. I hope I didnt bore you to death lol. So dont worry about the scale not moving today...You have done very well this week and it looks like your weekly loss is going to be very good! ok day 2 of liquids is done…scale says 214.8 which is not even a half a pound down…which is ok…today on to soft foods. Did you do protein shakes and soups on the soft protein day too?
I can totally relate the the movie theater popcorn lol…I went to see shutter island last night and my friend had this big tub of popcorn with extra butter. OMG I sooooo wanted some but resisted…I felt totally deprived too! We also went out to dinner…Panera Bread…I had a cup of bean soup…darn i wanted that greek salad she was eating. So you see…you arent alone with the feelings of deprevation.

I had to go through a bunch of seminars and nutrition classes prior to surgery. I KNEW what I was supposed to eat. Surgeon says absolutely NO chips, popcorn, pretzels or dessert EVER as it brings on old habits. He was right….you start with one chip and it progresses to 2 or 3 and so on. I cant just do one…I just have to learn to not have them anymore.

I do go to support group meetings once a month. I actually like them…they have a nutritionist there and a nurse who answers questions and such. They are very helpful to me. While it is a pain in the butt to go…I make myself go just for the very helpful infomration. Plus the surgeon requires that we attend the meetings. so there ya have it…my ramblings for the day. I hope I didnt bore you to death lol.

So dont worry about the scale not moving today…You have done very well this week and it looks like your weekly loss is going to be very good!

]]> http://necessarymutilation.com/2010/03/08/woulda-coulda-shoulda/comment-page-1/#comment-4750 Comment on Failure Is Not An Option by broad in buffalo http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NecessaryMutilationComments/~3/pFcy0kszCmI/ broad in buffalo Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:17:24 +0000 http://necessarymutilation.com/?p=2507#comment-4748 Yes, Debra, I am learning the value of what you are saying. I am not sure what my lifelong commitment will be like, as I am still in the process of wrapping my head around such things and taking it day by day. At what point do things become second nature and any mourning over what one can't have, subside? As to the yogurt, I am now surprised that I lost as I did during the pouch test given this, and wonder if I may have done even better if I had eaten "better" yogurt! I bought one on the way to work every day as it was on sale for 50 cents, PLUS, it qualified you for a free monopoly piece for the game that our local grocery store is having and I am addicted to. LOL! But, when is a bargain not a bargain, huh?! I appreciate you acting as a mentor and role model, and offering up your experiences as to what worked and how it all feels. I love the idea that you are so fit AND skinny, even w/o many veggies or fruits, as we are always told we must have. There is so much conflicting info. out there that it does get confusing, but I think that you are also right that those of us with insulin resistance shouldn't eat by these standards anyway. Yes, Debra, I am learning the value of what you are saying. I am not sure what my lifelong commitment will be like, as I am still in the process of wrapping my head around such things and taking it day by day. At what point do things become second nature and any mourning over what one can’t have, subside?
As to the yogurt, I am now surprised that I lost as I did during the pouch test given this, and wonder if I may have done even better if I had eaten “better” yogurt! I bought one on the way to work every day as it was on sale for 50 cents, PLUS, it qualified you for a free monopoly piece for the game that our local grocery store is having and I am addicted to. LOL! But, when is a bargain not a bargain, huh?!
I appreciate you acting as a mentor and role model, and offering up your experiences as to what worked and how it all feels. I love the idea that you are so fit AND skinny, even w/o many veggies or fruits, as we are always told we must have. There is so much conflicting info. out there that it does get confusing, but I think that you are also right that those of us with insulin resistance shouldn’t eat by these standards anyway.

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