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Parts For Sale :: NAPCO 1/2t drivetrain for sale in northern california

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:02:27 GMT

have a set of 3.73 axles out of 58 TF truck with new brakes. 6 lug 1/2ton
springs
steering arm
SM420 trans
T221 transfer case

asking $800 for whole setup. will split up-will cost you more per piece naturally! =)

PLEASE email me directly through my profile as i dont live on the forum... =)
Mark

shipping/pickup at 95926 chico,ca

Parts For Sale :: Re: NAPCO 1/2t drivetrain for sale in northern california :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:36 GMT

panel
Do you have the bracket and shifter linkage for Napco stuff (transfer case shifter linkage) ????

New Member's Introductions :: Signing in from Santa Monica

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:13:29 GMT

Hello fellas, nice place you got here!

My name is Mike and I am in the middle of my 1959 Chevy 1/2 Ton Stepside buildup, working through the last few mechanical/electrical issues before paint and body.

I was bitten by the old truck bug by a pic of a NAPCO '59 in a CHP mag about 12 years ago, been on the "hunt" for one since! I bought a 2WD 1/2 ton and totally gutted it, replaced EVERYTHING mechanical. Now focusing on suspension and am once again playing with the idea of 4WD - or waiting to find the right original NAPCO truck to buy - gotta have more than one, right?

Anyway I look forward to learning and hopefully contributing something here; I love these old trucks and want to help preserve their rich history by owning and driving one every chance I get - plus they are great to work on!

New Member's Introductions :: Re: Signing in from Santa Monica :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:12:03 GMT

Welcome aboard! Sounds like a good time to be adding the Napco running gear if you can find a set. When I see any listed on Craigs List in my area I generally post a link; there may be some in our swap meet section too. Good luck with the project and the hunt!
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

New Member's Introductions :: Re: Signing in from Santa Monica :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:11:42 GMT

...might be timely, though the "proper" transfer case would be a Spicer or Napco model 23:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=424
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Silly newbie question regaridng ride height

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:21:49 GMT

First post so please bare with me

What was the "factory" lift with the NAPCO kit? Everything I have read about the upgrade did not seem to include new leaf springs yet the NAPCO trucks look tall and tough - how much lift was added over stock 2WD and how was it done? Would love to replicate the look until I find a new 4X front end

Thanks in advance!
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The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Silly newbie question regaridng ride height :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:44:04 GMT

Typical upfit added 4 inch blocks in the back and on most 1/2 tons new front leaf springs were
added that had 7 total leaves. I think mainly to compensate for the added weight of the transfer case.
Stock 2wd 1/2 ton had 6 leaf springs up front. I think the 3/4 tons also went with 7. Not sure
on the 1 tons. Most of the lift in front was gained by the straight front axle vs the slightly dropped
axle of the 2wd.

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Silly newbie question regaridng ride height :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:06:17 GMT

Perfect, thank you very much
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Parts Department :: Re: 1 ton tie rod ends :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:13:39 GMT

I just pulled mine off. The right one is 7/8" 16 tpi right hand thread, and the left one is 7/8" 18 tpi, also right hand thread. I ordered the one from Jim Carters. Their description doesn't say if the threads are left or right. I got the other one from Brian (through Rare Parts) a long time ago and it fits perfectly and appears very well made. It's part number RP26616-1D2.

I just wonder how all the dirt got in my tie rod. If I had realized they were hollow I would have cleaned it out and ran swabs through with POR-15.

Rare Parts should still be able to get the right one (or left, probably):

http://www.rareparts.com/products/

I should add that the Napco parts book shows different part numbers for the '56 - '57 tie rod ends compared to the later ones, but in both cases the bigger trucks use the same part as the half tons.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

Parts Department :: Re: 1 ton tie rod ends :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:15:40 GMT

My Napco axle is a '56 or early '57. The left tie rod end uses male 7/8" 18 tpi right hand threads to screw into the tie rod. The one I bought from Jim Carter had left hand threads so I returned it. My buddy Paul at Napa measured my old one (including the taper of the stud) and found one in his book that fits: NAPA part number 269-2553. The threaded part (going into the tie rod) is about an inch longer than the old one but by repeatedly forcing it in and back out, I got it to work. I didn't want to just cut off the excess, but that would have worked too.

I notice from my parts book that the early axles don't use the same tie rod ends as the later axles but I don't know what the differences were. My right tie rod end is from Rare Parts and I got it via Brian Russell, and it worked perfectly.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

New Member's Introductions :: front dif rebuild

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:16:20 GMT

hey guys i need to do a complete overhaul on my front axle. its a napco axle 3/4 ton 1958. it makes noise when i desselerate. where can i get the parts?

New Member's Introductions :: Re: front dif rebuild :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:11:38 GMT

You can get all the bearings and seals from Napa or any local bearing place, though you'll have to pull the old ones out first to get the right numbers. If your ring and pinion gears are bad, they should be the same parts as any 3/4 ton rear differential.

What do you think is making the noise?
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

New Member's Introductions :: Re: front dif rebuild :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:24:16 GMT

the front diff has a very bad leak and after taking it for a sunday ride it developed a very horrible grinding noise. the noise only occures when i deselerate. when i got home i checked the oil in the front diff and there was none. so i can only assume, without pulling it apart, the bearings and ring and pinion are shot.

New Member's Introductions :: Re: front dif rebuild :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:09:13 GMT

Ouch! Well if you can find another 3/4 ton rear end it should have almost everything you need.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Springs are shot, what can I use to replace them :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:20:00 GMT

I got mine from Benz springs in Portland, OR. Luckily I was able to go up there and get them.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Springs are shot, what can I use to replace them :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:20:51 GMT

Triangle springs fronts 22-196
Traingle springs rears 22-245
If you can not locate them, I would suggest checking your nearest leaf spring company. Otherwise depending on where your located you can order them from an out of area leaf spring retailer.

Hope it helps
Omar

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Springs are shot, what can I use to replace them :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:38:28 GMT

Hi, Deaver springs out of california can build you anything you want.

Parts Wanted :: 58 speedometer driven gear

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:28:49 GMT

I am looking for speedometer driven gear that goes into T/C output housing, Spicer Model 23. Have been searching speedometer shops, transmission shops and net. Looking for the part, a known source, or specific dimensional info, ie length, shaft diameter, gear od, gear pitch and RH or LH pitch, maybe a picture? Any help is appreciated.

Parts Wanted :: Re: 58 speedometer driven gear :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:21:58 GMT

same as what is in the sm420 transmission, that will help you locate easier.
Omar

Parts Wanted :: Re: 58 speedometer driven gear :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:06:06 GMT

Omar,
Thanks for the lead. I am going to be chasing that as soon as I get off work tonight.
Joe

Parts Department :: Front Pinion Seal

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:30:31 GMT

Does anybody have a NAPA # for a front pinion seal for my 59 1ton Napco?

Parts Department :: Re: Front Pinion Seal :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:15:29 GMT

If you have the old one they can usually match it up from the numbers on the old one. If not Napa, a bearing shop can.

I saw a list once of various parts like that and the common numbers for them, but I can't remember where it is. I think it's linked to from the Napco home page.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

Parts Department :: Re: Front Pinion Seal :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:56:27 GMT

Thanks, I was hoping to have a seal handy when I pull it apart.It's winter here now , and the 1 ton does not fit in the shop......I looked a bit for that list, but no findy.

Parts Department :: Re: Front Pinion Seal :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:53:30 GMT

The Filling Station catalog shows a seal FS-377 listed for differential pinion seal for 1940 - 63 trucks except half ton. On my half ton the front and rear pinion seals (and bearings, and so on) are the same. I bet they are on yours too. Yours are $8.50 in my print catalog. They're an easy drive for me to go get stuff but they ship too.

Hope this helps.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

Parts Department :: Re: Front Pinion Seal :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:28:22 GMT

I'll get a real seal coming and see if it works.
Thanks.

New Member's Introductions :: Re: 1957 Chev wheel size :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:32:38 GMT

Many thanks, I have a set of 16 inch wheel located. What was the tire size? I will check out the book as well.

Regards

Tom

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Pinion seal

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:32:19 GMT

Anybody have a NAPA # for the front pinion seal, 1 ton 59 GMC Napco?

Trucks For Sale :: 1956 1/2 ton Napco Panel on Ebay

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:54:08 GMT

1956 1/2 ton Napco Panel Truck for sale on www.ebaymotors.com

The Engine Shop :: Heater valve

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:59:56 GMT

I know this doesn't really fit the Engine Shop topic, but I couldn't figure a better place to ask my question: I bought a new heater control valve but its location is never mentioned in the shop manual and I didn't have the priveledge of removing the original. Does anybody have a picture of the stock location or a good description?

thanks much
Pete

The Engine Shop :: Re: Heater valve :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:12:40 GMT

Is your truck a Chevy or GMC? If Chevy, standard or deluxe heater? My '58 Chevy with the standard heater has the control valve in line with the heater hose. You turn it off if you don't want hot water going to your heater core, and open it if you do. I've never closed mine, so it's probably rusted open, but my heater sure works well.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The Engine Shop :: Re: Heater valve :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:34:11 GMT

Oops, sorry. I have a Chevy.

The Engine Shop :: Re: Heater valve :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:44:35 GMT

I saw another '58 yesterday, and his heater control valve was somewhere in the heater area in the cab. I didn't see it. He has a deluxe heater, where you can switch between fresh air or recirculate. My standard one just has a fan switch for on or off.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The Engine Shop :: Re: Heater valve :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:24:02 GMT

Hm, well that won't work. Thanks for the effort!

Pete

Parts Wanted :: Re: transfer mounts :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:30:57 GMT

there are some on e-bay right now

Trucks For Sale :: 1968 C-50 4x4 dump truck

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:46:32 GMT

Does anybody need a winter project? This is a 1968 C-50 dump truck with a 10ft. low pro dump bed. It has a 327 4sp divorced t-case. Truck has 28k on it. The truck was built for the state of Indiana to pick up trash at the dunes state park. The super singles are the factory tires. The truck was stolen in 1970 and taken for a joy ride and ended up in Lake Mich. and blew the engine. It was sold to a friend of mine at auction and he had it until 8yrs ago when I bought it to use while digging a pond. The truck runs but it will need a new carb. The hydraulics work like new, the brakes do not work, cab it rusted pretty bad and truck has no title. However I have a different cab with a title that goes with it. Asking 1500.00 OBO, I may take cummins performance parts on trade. PM me with any questions. Thanks

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Trucks For Sale :: Re: 1968 C-50 4x4 dump truck :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:32:07 GMT

I'm in California, where would the truck have to be shipped from? What is the weight cap. of the C-50? When you drove it, what was top speed, gearing? Can the rear axle be modified to be a dually? Does it have working power steering.
I have a big ol 56 GMC FMW 550 with tandem axles that we may change to single dually.
Thanks
Rockman

Trucks For Sale :: Re: 1968 C-50 4x4 dump truck :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:05:34 GMT

Rockman wrote:I'm in California, where would the truck have to be shipped from? What is the weight cap. of the C-50? When you drove it, what was top speed, gearing? Can the rear axle be modified to be a dually? Does it have working power steering.
I have a big ol 56 GMC FMW 550 with tandem axles that we may change to single dually.
Thanks
Rockman

I live in Danville In. Are you asking what the GVW is, it is 19500 lb. I do not know what the truck weights. I never drove it on the road but my buddy who I bought it from said it will run 60mph pulling a backhoe and trailer. I do not know what gear ratio it has. As far as the rear axle accepting duals I don't know but I would assume it would. It looks like the singles are just a custom wheel that was made for this application.

Parts For Sale :: Re: 3/4 ton split rims :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:32:02 GMT

Still for sale. $150 anyone?

eBay & Craiglists Finds :: TF/BC Short Fleetside w/ Extras, NORCAL -- $100, No Res

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:36:15 GMT

All my sheltered space is spoken for so it's time to move some things along:

Starts at $100, no reserve

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...em&item=140353374414

Parts run the gamut on condition -- the deluxe trim is going to need some tab/mount repair work and obviously rechroming. Although the end pieces are NOT bent. The body parts are in fair to good condition with dents and surface rust. One of the backup lights is cracked but complete (and the body bushing will only be good to use as a template).
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Parts Wanted :: napco gm 8lug front axle and T case wanted

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:14:43 GMT

Needed for 1958 longbed chevrolet pickup . I'm in California. Let me know what you have . Thanks
t-s.gwinn@att.net

Parts Wanted :: Re: napco gm 8lug front axle and T case wanted :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:02:15 GMT

I have a Napco spicer 23 transfer case
call me damon
602-620-9667

Parts For Sale :: Re: 1959 Complete Conversion Kit :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:06:46 GMT

Hi, I am curious about your conversion kit. We have a 58 chevy longbed and are thinking about converting it to a 4x4. Is your kit 8 lug or 6 lug, does it include the T23 transfer case, and what state are the parts located in? Thanks

The Tool Shack :: Re: 110 volt Welders ??? :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:51:03 GMT

For sheet metal/patch panel work they should do just fine. Be careful not to spend a lot of time welding in one spot or you will warp the sheet metal. You will basically be spot welding. Move around a lot until everything is filled in.

The NAPCO Drivetrain Shop :: Re: Steering Ball Seals :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:18:16 GMT

There's a gasket that goes between the felts and the knuckle; I made mine.

I never thought to ask: is yours leaking grease or oil? If oil, then you need to pull the axle out of the housing and replace the oil seal. The oil would leak from the differential into the grease-filled hub.
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Ed Miller
'58 Apache Short Fleetside
Falls City, OR

The Body & Paint Shop :: Re: where to find correct exterior paint and trim colors :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:18:53 GMT

Go over to the topic from 'Manhatten'. He's looking for 1958 info and the web site given him will help you.
I'm sure there is some way for me to grab those answers and drag them over here but I don't know how!
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The Body & Paint Shop :: Re: Trying to find a paint - or the code for a '58 :: Reply

no_email@example.com (Napco Owners Group) — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:07:24 GMT

runningman562001 wrote:Does anyone have the paint chip sheet or codes for a 1956 GMC?

'56 GMC came in Panama Cream #819,Placid Blue #820,Seminole Brown #821,Dover White #822
Harmony Gray #823,Delta Green #824,Chrome Yellow #816,Omaha Orange #817,Flame Red #818

VaSteve
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