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I don’t think Council Member violated the Brown Act, but I actually don’t have a major problem with Council Members Edgar, Poe, and Stephens “reprimanding ” Council Member Kusumoto, as long as they’re speaking the truth graciously and diplomatically. I think such a reprimand would be most effective if done in private.

For example:

“Warren, I know it’s your first year on the Council, and I doubt it was your intent, but that letter you released about your reasons for recusing yourself from the trash contract closed sessions might be in violation of the Brown Act. Why don’t you run anything like that by our City Attorney before you release it in the future.”

In fact, that’s how I think this whole thing should have been handled.

No strain on anyone.

No taxpayer dollars wasted.

No upset citizens.

Everyone free to concentrate on making our city a better place to live and dealing with important issues like crime, traffic, and attracting good, tax-generating businesses.

As for the Gerri Mejia incident, I don’t believe I’ve ever stated an opinion on it. In any case, I can’t recall the incident, so I can’t say if I would have agreed or disagreed with her position.

There are many things I disagree with Council Member Graham-Mejia on, but I think she’s a home-grown Council Member trying to do her best for her community, and thinks for herself, and I do like that.

Chuckie used to go by the pen name “Larry Looper” until he got called out on it, since then he has abandoned any attempt to use the same name twice, but his style is always the same, so he’s not hard to spot.

As for HG’s post. I think he is putting the cart before the horse. Before you set goals you must have people who are honest and trustworthy in the positions of authority. That is Los Alamitos’ current difficulty.

Three of our city council members are criminals (yes, misdemeanors count). As a majority I don’t believe them when they say that they are doing things in the “best interests of the community”. They are always doing things in the best interests of their political benefactors first and foremost.

Until we remove the criminal element from the dais I am afraid that this city will continue to flail about.

Consider the following. The FPPC has made clear that you can NOT vote on things that happen within 500 feet of your property.

Yes, we know that Mrs. Poe has voted on a project within 500 feet of her property, and spent taxpayer dollars on the project. When it was pointed out, well after she did this, she recused herself in the next vote on the issue, but Edgar needs her vote, so he has asked the City Attorney to ask if the FPPC will allow her to vote in the future.

The City Attorney who asked this exact question of the FPPC not long ago in a city to the north of us is now going to spend tax dollars at Edgar’s request to ask the FPPC if Poe gets a letter saying her property will not get $0.01 worth of benefit, will she be allowed to vote.

The FPPC was asked this by our City Attorney, and responded (NO!) in Sierra Madre (I believe), it’s on the FPPC website. But rather than say no, she will take our tax dollars to attempt to do Edgar’s bidding because without Poe to give him the third vote he can’t enhance the value of Termino’s property (he is Briggeman’s business partner and Anaheim’s former trashman – also sold out to CDS/Republic) on Los Al Blvd.

Until we eliminate the racketeers from City Council, we can’t really address the issues that affect the residents and businesses of our small community.

Put you name on your posts and point out where I lied. You can’t. In fact, Larry’s post and mine both point out the same basic flaw, that our city leadership fails to learn from past mistakes.

Weren’t you a part of that failed leadership? Why, yes you were. That explains a great deal. The truth will set you free, so admit you’re an incompetent old man who has lost his marbles and thinks the model for his life is the “get off my lawn” character from Scooby-Doo.

Let’s see, what did I say?

Of course this would require a City Council that is forward looking and Los Alamitos has a LONG LONG history of not doing that. Look at the LART, or at the Rossmoor Center and Target Centers and you can see just how well we FAIL at doing proactive planning.

and what did Larry say?

In discussions with the Los Al people, the latter reportedly felt they couldn’t afford to forward fund this investment. The leaders of the Cypress group reportedly offered this and a couple other incentives to Vessels. He signed both incorporation petitions, but delayed meeting with the Los Alamitos incorporators long enough to make sure their application was submitted after Cypress, and give Cypress the legal advantage.

The story they didn’t want a race track in the city is absolutely false. The Chamber’s Incorporation Committee (headed by Jack L. Weaver — of Weaver School fame) went to great lengths to get the track in the city, and there are numerous newspaper articles at the time that show this.

Ironically, though, years later the by-now-incorporated Los Al leaders had not learned their forward funding lesson.

In the Video History of Los Alamitos former mayor Chuck Long says this reluctance to take on the financial debt of forward funding a sewer system was also the reason the city of Los Alamitos did not annex the Rossmoor Center and College Park East, thus leaving the way open for Seal Beach.

Short form.
Me: “Of course this would require a City Council that is forward looking and Los Alamitos has a LONG LONG history of not doing that”

Larry: “Ironically, though, years later the by-now-incorporated Los Al leaders had not learned their forward funding lesson.”

Isn’t it amazing that Larry exposed me by providing substantial detail to what I said. Detail that is appreciated by the site owner, and myself.

Unlike you CHUCKIE, I don’t get paid by the trashman to lie and smear the good people of Los Al that choose to serve our community.

Oh, and look at this from Art… and try to do it without parsing his words…

Years ago I am told the owner of the race track property (LART) all 300 acres of it wanted to be annexed by Los Al. The forward thinking council at that time didn’t want a race track in the city, so they went to Cypress.

I was told that too at one time when I asked an old resident why it was called the “Los Alamitos Race Track”, but is located in Cypress. It appears to be the urban legend that gets told and retold.

Larry, by including the details here where it will be indexed by google, has done all the residents of the community a favor by making a searchable record, so the next time someone looks for the answer, it won’t be the urban legend from a neighbor, but the accurate story Larry supplied.

Of course you and accuracy have a fleeting acquaintance Chuckie. You still haven’t explained your last rant at the council where you claimed that Art and I did Citizens for the money. Got any facts to back that lie up yet?