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		Comment on Bing Chat by Rob Penfold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Penfold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe it has been renamed CoPilot now. Below is an anecdote I shared with Australian health librarians:

The other day I was rather stuck on a search. 

So I thought I&#039;d try Copilot to see what it would throw up (note if you use Copilot, choose either the Creative or (more likely) the Precise option, as those two give you access to the more powerful ChatGPT4. The default middle option (Balanced) only provides access to version 3.5)

I put in the query as a natural language query - as all good medical librarians are taught to do - and it threw up 5 citations. None were hallucinatory (as visited each one), one was very relevant (which was then used as a seed article to find related articles), three others weren&#039;t too bad, and one wasn&#039;t useful. So, in this instance it was surprisingly helpful. Having said that, I tried it on another search today and the results weren&#039;t useful, so it can bit a bit hit and miss, and probably depends how the question is phrased. In any case, another option to keep in mind

Copilot can be accessed at the top right of the Edge browser or directly at  https://copilot.microsoft.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it has been renamed CoPilot now. Below is an anecdote I shared with Australian health librarians:</p>
<p>The other day I was rather stuck on a search. </p>
<p>So I thought I&#8217;d try Copilot to see what it would throw up (note if you use Copilot, choose either the Creative or (more likely) the Precise option, as those two give you access to the more powerful ChatGPT4. The default middle option (Balanced) only provides access to version 3.5)</p>
<p>I put in the query as a natural language query &#8211; as all good medical librarians are taught to do &#8211; and it threw up 5 citations. None were hallucinatory (as visited each one), one was very relevant (which was then used as a seed article to find related articles), three others weren&#8217;t too bad, and one wasn&#8217;t useful. So, in this instance it was surprisingly helpful. Having said that, I tried it on another search today and the results weren&#8217;t useful, so it can bit a bit hit and miss, and probably depends how the question is phrased. In any case, another option to keep in mind</p>
<p>Copilot can be accessed at the top right of the Edge browser or directly at  <a href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://copilot.microsoft.com/</a></p>
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		Comment on Odds &#038; Ends of possible interest by Rob Penfold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Penfold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 22:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just an update on this for anyone interested in useful browser extensions in the health librarian setting:

Browser Extensions For The Stretched Health Librarian, 2023
https://www.johila.org/index.php/Johila/article/view/143/212]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an update on this for anyone interested in useful browser extensions in the health librarian setting:</p>
<p>Browser Extensions For The Stretched Health Librarian, 2023<br />
<a href="https://www.johila.org/index.php/Johila/article/view/143/212" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.johila.org/index.php/Johila/article/view/143/212</a></p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: Update by Bill Nichols		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Nichols]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coming from background of decades in both public &#038; medical libraries (several more of the latter than the former; *&#038;* being a &quot;professional skeptic&quot; in general &#038; of new tech in particular!), I&#039;m not surprised that the jury is definitely still out on implementation of AI in our biz.  

What amuses me most is the fact that it significantly increases the already critical importance of asking the right questions in the &quot;reference interview&quot; of ChatGPT in order to make sure we elicit the most useful information in order to be able to provide the actual human patron with the answer they actually need!  Thanks bookoodles for all your work, Michelle!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from background of decades in both public &amp; medical libraries (several more of the latter than the former; *&amp;* being a &#8220;professional skeptic&#8221; in general &amp; of new tech in particular!), I&#8217;m not surprised that the jury is definitely still out on implementation of AI in our biz.  </p>
<p>What amuses me most is the fact that it significantly increases the already critical importance of asking the right questions in the &#8220;reference interview&#8221; of ChatGPT in order to make sure we elicit the most useful information in order to be able to provide the actual human patron with the answer they actually need!  Thanks bookoodles for all your work, Michelle!</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: Update by KraftyLibrarian		</title>
		<link>https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-update/comment-page-1/#comment-159161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KraftyLibrarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-update/comment-page-1/#comment-159148&quot;&gt;Susan Harman&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. IMHO I think it depends on how much time you save. Believe it or not both the first post and the second post I wrote took me less than an hour. My posts used to take me a lot longer than that to do. It definitely helped save me time when I was writing a professional and technical email about library stuff to an important non-librarian. When writing those types of emails I spend a lot of time de-jargoning the library terminology so as to get my point accros in a professional but understandable way. I used ChatGPT to write the email. The email was entirely too long but I cut and pasted parts of it when I crafted my own and it made the process pretty quick and easy.
Right now in its current iteration, I wouldn&#039;t spend the time on ChatGPT for medical searching. BUT be wary when we talk about amount of time to get results because there are ton of MEDLINE searches that I have spent hours on within PubMed or Ovid MEDLINE trying to get good results. I think time spent vs output received is important but not the only marker.
Some have emailed me to look at Elicit, Lori, Perplexity as AI&#039;s to think about for search PubMed. One person said they used www.perplexity.ai on medical topics and it reference some articles from PubMed. It still has paywall problems too but those are ones to try and see if input time vs output results is worth it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-update/comment-page-1/#comment-159148">Susan Harman</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. IMHO I think it depends on how much time you save. Believe it or not both the first post and the second post I wrote took me less than an hour. My posts used to take me a lot longer than that to do. It definitely helped save me time when I was writing a professional and technical email about library stuff to an important non-librarian. When writing those types of emails I spend a lot of time de-jargoning the library terminology so as to get my point accros in a professional but understandable way. I used ChatGPT to write the email. The email was entirely too long but I cut and pasted parts of it when I crafted my own and it made the process pretty quick and easy.<br />
Right now in its current iteration, I wouldn&#8217;t spend the time on ChatGPT for medical searching. BUT be wary when we talk about amount of time to get results because there are ton of MEDLINE searches that I have spent hours on within PubMed or Ovid MEDLINE trying to get good results. I think time spent vs output received is important but not the only marker.<br />
Some have emailed me to look at Elicit, Lori, Perplexity as AI&#8217;s to think about for search PubMed. One person said they used <a href="http://www.perplexity.ai" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.perplexity.ai</a> on medical topics and it reference some articles from PubMed. It still has paywall problems too but those are ones to try and see if input time vs output results is worth it.</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: Update by Katie		</title>
		<link>https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-update/comment-page-1/#comment-159160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 19:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Michelle. So what I&#039;m reading/getting from this is that *shocker* you still have to spend time creating a well-formed and precise question in order to get the best results from AI. (Similarly to when using dumb data ases and search engines...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Michelle. So what I&#8217;m reading/getting from this is that *shocker* you still have to spend time creating a well-formed and precise question in order to get the best results from AI. (Similarly to when using dumb data ases and search engines&#8230;)</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: A Game-Changer in Information Access by Christine Carmichael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine Carmichael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 16:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just had a patron (MD) give me two citations and ask for help finding them as they were having difficulty retrieving them from our library. Turns out this was my first experience (and the patron&#039;s too) of tracking down an AI hallucination. Usually, if a citation has an error, it&#039;s pretty easy to figure out: wrong pub date, fat fingered a volume number. Not this time!

After an hour of using every tool at my disposal, I finally asked the patron if they had used ChatGPT while searching and when they said yes, I said, &quot;Well, THERE&#039;S your problem!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a patron (MD) give me two citations and ask for help finding them as they were having difficulty retrieving them from our library. Turns out this was my first experience (and the patron&#8217;s too) of tracking down an AI hallucination. Usually, if a citation has an error, it&#8217;s pretty easy to figure out: wrong pub date, fat fingered a volume number. Not this time!</p>
<p>After an hour of using every tool at my disposal, I finally asked the patron if they had used ChatGPT while searching and when they said yes, I said, &#8220;Well, THERE&#8217;S your problem!&#8221;</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: Update by Susan Harman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Harman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 15:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This may seem like a very cynical comment, but if it takes so many tries and so much tweaking of the question, it seems like it would be almost easier to just write the post yourself!  Haha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may seem like a very cynical comment, but if it takes so many tries and so much tweaking of the question, it seems like it would be almost easier to just write the post yourself!  Haha!</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: Update by Brian McFerron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian McFerron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This too, is very insightful Michelle.  Thanks for these examples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This too, is very insightful Michelle.  Thanks for these examples.</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: A Game-Changer in Information Access by Charlotte Sievert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlotte Sievert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 13:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fascinating experiment, Michelle.  I, too, am impressed by the flow of the writing.  For a minute there, I almost thought I was going to be out of a job.  Thank you for sharing this experiment with us on your blog.  The idea of using it for writing emails fascinates me.  I feel as though it is not uncommon for me to spend way too much time writing an email.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating experiment, Michelle.  I, too, am impressed by the flow of the writing.  For a minute there, I almost thought I was going to be out of a job.  Thank you for sharing this experiment with us on your blog.  The idea of using it for writing emails fascinates me.  I feel as though it is not uncommon for me to spend way too much time writing an email.</p>
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		Comment on ChatGPT in Medical Librarianship: A Game-Changer in Information Access by KraftyLibrarian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KraftyLibrarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-a-game-changer-in-information-access/comment-page-1/#comment-159041&quot;&gt;Luzviminda Sinha&lt;/a&gt;.

I would not use it right now for that kind of research because it might given an answer but ChatGPT3.5 will not always provide correct references and it is difficult to say where found the information it displayed. Right now I would do that kind of search in PubMed or other appropriate bibliographic databases. Doctors, nurses, medical professionals should not be using ChatGPT3.5 to find literature to answer medical queries. The risk of AI hallucination, lack of transparency regarding where it found the answers, its inability to go behind fire walls for published journal articles, books, etc., and its date limit of 2021 really hamper it for finding that type of information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://kraftylibrarian.com/chatgpt-in-medical-librarianship-a-game-changer-in-information-access/comment-page-1/#comment-159041">Luzviminda Sinha</a>.</p>
<p>I would not use it right now for that kind of research because it might given an answer but ChatGPT3.5 will not always provide correct references and it is difficult to say where found the information it displayed. Right now I would do that kind of search in PubMed or other appropriate bibliographic databases. Doctors, nurses, medical professionals should not be using ChatGPT3.5 to find literature to answer medical queries. The risk of AI hallucination, lack of transparency regarding where it found the answers, its inability to go behind fire walls for published journal articles, books, etc., and its date limit of 2021 really hamper it for finding that type of information.</p>
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