http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/rss/rss.php http://www.jkrishnamurti.org The Krishnamurti Online Repository RSS en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:29:11 EST info@jkrishnamurti.org (Paloma Salvador) info@jkrishnamurti.org (Paloma Salvador)http://www.jkrishnamurti.comhttp://www.jkrishnamurti.com/images/Jko_Feed.jpgJKOnline_Videoshttp://feedburner.google.comhttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/wI1KCtQ-c_A/is-there-anything-sacred-in-life-full-version.php<p>So we are asking whether you can live in this life without a single image. Which means: is there security beyond the image? You understand my question? Is there a sense of well being, a sense of not being hurt psychologically, wounded? Is there such a state so completely secure, not the security brought about by thought, through the image, through the symbol, through various forms of conclusions, ideals and so on, which do not give security, but it gives the illusion of being secure? You are following all this? Oh, for god's sake, we are moving together? It is very difficult to talk or have a serious meeting with so many people, because we are all thinking so many different things. Each one is concerned with his own problems, with his own desires, with his own pursuits, you are committed to this guru or to that idea, so you just come and listen, agree, disagree, just casually carry on. But if you are serious, and life demands that one be serious, not only in the present state of the world, what people have done in the present and the people who are doing it, if you are not aware of all that, which is in ourselves, then we live and bring about corruption, degeneration.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/is-there-anything-sacred-in-life-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/e5_r-rp9ePo/the-ending-of-sorrow-brings-love-and-compassion-full-version.php<p>What is suffering? And why has man put up with it? Can it be ended by will? Or is there a cause for it? If there is a cause it can be ended: what has a cause has an ending. We went into that in the previous talks. That is the law: if there is a cause it must end, there is an ending to it. So we are first asking, as human beings, not as individuals, asking why mankind, why you, and another, live with this, as with fear, as with conflict, outwardly and inwardly, we live with it, we are never free of it. And if one is aware - aware in the sense to observe the actual sorrow that one has. Not invented sorrow, but the actual despair, the actual terrible loneliness, the sense of deprivation, the hopelessness of a life that has no meaning. You may invent the meanings but actually if you observe the life as it is lived has no meaning: going to the office, factory for the rest of one's life, an occasional holiday with bad weather, and this is the way of our existence.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/the-ending-of-sorrow-brings-love-and-compassion-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/DNnSn9sz4zM/the-relationship-of-desire--will-and-love-full-version.php<p>What is desire? Why human beings have not been able to resolve that problem of constantly desiring, this constant urge, which is the desire to fulfil, the desire to identify and when that desire is not fulfilled the sense of antagonism, bitterness, anger and all the rest of the reactions that arise. Right? So without suppressing, without identifying with something greater - you understand? - which the monks all over the world do. Right? That is, all the monks throughout the world have desire like every other human being, but the monks identify either themselves with Jesus, with Krishna, or Buddha, or whatever it is, and that desire is focussed on a symbol, an idea, a concept, but it is still desire. And there have been monks and priests throughout the world who have tried different ways to suppress desire, to be free of desire: by torturing themselves physically, by fasting, through isolation, never looking at a woman, or a man, never looking at nature, the beauty of the hills, the streams and the waters, because all that provokes desire.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/the-relationship-of-desire--will-and-love-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/AnK_g5p3CbE/breaking-the-pattern-of-conditioning-full-version.php<p>We are saying there must be a cause for this disorder. What is the cause? Are there several causes for disorder in our life or there is only one factor that brings about disorder? You are understanding my question? - not my question, your question. First of all, are we aware that we live in disorder? I think that is fairly clear. We are. We may have patches of sunlight, but most of the day we live, as we are doing now, with rain and clouds. So we are not talking about patches of order which are really the forgetfulness of disorder. So what is the cause of it? Or are there several causes? There must be disorder when there is contradiction, not only in your action, which is not only in your thought - in your behaviour. Contradiction, saying one thing and doing another. Obviously. And there must be disorder as long as we are conforming. Right? Conforming to an idea, to an ideal, to an image which has been created by another. All right? Which is: as long as there is contradiction in ourselves between action and the fact, between what we think and what we do. Right? That is: as long as man, mind, is trying to change 'what is' into 'what should be', there must be disorder. The totalitarian Communist world have their theoreticians according to Marx and Engles and Lenin and Stalin, all that, and have created a concept, an ideological world and the people there in their authority, in their power are shaping man to conform to that. You are following? This is what all religions have done. There is not much difference - perhaps there is a certain difference - between the totalitarian world and the religious world and the fascists. They are all following the same path, perhaps mildly, gently, forcefully, aggressively, threatening, but it is the same direction.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/breaking-the-pattern-of-conditioning-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/4Kco3yaJebo/action-that-is-always-correct-full-version.php<p>So when we observe attachment towards somebody or something - a piece of furniture, is the person who is attached different from himself, the attachment? You understand what I am saying? Obviously not. Therefore when there is no division and therefore no conflict, the whole process of attachment comes to an end. Please test it. Don't accept a thing anybody says, including myself. Test it. That is, see actually what you are attached to, tied to: to your name, to your family, to your brother, sister, father, wife, girl, boy, whatever it is, to the bishop, or to the pope, or some other person. If you are, just observe it. But if you like to be attached, if you like all the consequences of that attachment, you are perfectly welcome, nobody is going to stop you. But if you want to find out whether there is an action which is incorruptible, which is correct under all circumstances then you have to be free from all values, from all attachment. Because when you observe attachment it is intelligence that is seeing the whole process of it, not analysis.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/action-that-is-always-correct-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/NPem-8D_pZo/the-movement-of-thought-and-becoming-full-version.php<p>The religious people say there is god. And that god has created this world. That god must be rather a miserable god, rather confused, corrupt god to make this world as it is. Or you have your own particular pet theory - the origin of all this. Intellectually conceived, intellectually comprehending the many philosophers, the theologians, the theoreticians of the Communists as well as the Christian theologians, and so on, you might have certain conclusions, opinions, judgements. But if you want to find out the origin of all this you must set aside everything of all that, obviously. And that demands not only a certain quality of strength, of perception, but it requires very careful observation, not analysis. Again, analysis is the pattern of time. We have analysed, analysed, analysed, not only the world outside of us but also philosophers, psychologists, psychotherapists have analysed our minds and have come to certain conclusions, certain concepts and so on. And we are conditioned by these people. And to find out what is the original cause of all this one must be free of all that, otherwise there is no freedom. Freedom is not to go from this village to that village, or freedom of choice in your job, freedom of speech, freedom of this and that, but real freedom lies when the mind and the brain, or the whole organism of psychological structure is free from all the patterns, from all the moulds, from all the impositions of others on our minds and heart.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/the-movement-of-thought-and-becoming-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/IBR75AvHmTc/why-is-there-such-chaos-in-the-world-full-version.php<p>So we are trying to find out, trying to observe together what is the cause of the extraordinary things that are going on in our life. What is the essence of that cause? Is it that the very beginning of man - and also woman - don't get het up when I don't mention woman - when man and woman began, is it that they took a wrong turn? Look at it please, go into it with me. Why should we suffer? If man is the creation of god, god must be a rather horrible entity, a monstrous entity that is making human beings go through hell. Right? He must be total disorder because we live in disorder - if he created us. If he created us and we are killing each other through terror, bombs, kidnapping - oh, you know all the terrible things that are happening in the world. If you are created in his image, that image must be monstrous. Obviously it is quite evident that man is responsible. Nobody outside of us, no gods, no angels, no Brahman, no higher - none of that is responsible for this, we are responsible. And what is the cause of this? You understand now? Is the cause selfishness? Is the cause the accumulated knowledge - please listen carefully. We are not against knowledge, knowledge is necessary - to drive a car, to learn a language, to operate any electronic... so on, so on, so on - knowledge is necessary. But the psychological knowledge that one has accumulated, generation after generation, is that the cause? Is it that the knowledge has been translated psychologically into concepts, into your belief and my belief - you are following all this? Please sirs, don't go to sleep! If you are really deeply concerned about this, which everyone must be, why we live this way, so-called civilised human beings, with cars, marvellous surgeries, excellent communication, transport and all the rest of it, but psychologically inwardly, inside the skin, we have become terror, we have become the most dangerous people on earth. Right? We may be occasionally kind, occasionally loving, unselfish, but this separate individual unselfishness and so on has not solved the problem. It is not poverty, starvation, disease that is the problem, it is us, our consciousness.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/why-is-there-such-chaos-in-the-world-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/rMnRcRtX2kA/can-you-understand-what-a-religious-life-is-full-version.php<p><strong>K:</strong> I am not your guru, thank god, or anybody's guru.<br /><br /><strong>Q:</strong> No, no, I'll call you as a non-guru sir, but that the whole (inaudible) in your presence. (Pause)<br /><br /><strong>K:</strong> Sir, you asked a question: can tradition and culture exist or co-exist with a religious life? And we said very carefully tradition - apply it, sir, find out - tradition means handing down certain authoritarian statements, certain values, rituals, principles, conclusions, and so on. That's what tradition means. And that word also means betrayal, treason. Culture means to develop, to grow, the mind, your heart, to flower, to have beauty in your life, all that means culture. And a life which we live now daily is constant struggle, work, gathering money, having influence, having pain, suffering a great deal, insensitive to everything about us and only sensitive to our own little problems, and so on and on and on. That is what we call living. And religion as it is explained, means gathering your whole energy to enquire into what is truth and what is reality. Now do you want to go into all this?<br /><br /><strong>Q: </strong>Yes, sir.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/can-you-understand-what-a-religious-life-is-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/N6pmkr1gKJA/2nd-public-dialogue--madras-full-version--ma7879d2.php<p>Q: Can we discuss the control of government and our daily-to-day life?</p> <p>How will you bring about a cessation of the power of the few,, and educate or help the vast majority?</p> <p>In history, only very few individuals bring about a change. Will you have the energy, capacity, drive, the love to bring about a different world?</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/2nd-public-dialogue--madras-full-version--ma7879d2.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/M-s-wch3FNk/the-movement-of-meditation-full-version.php<p>So we are asking, whether a brain, which is your brain, which is the brain of all human beings evolved through immemorial time, conditioned by cultures, religions, by economic, social pressures, that brain has had a timeless continuity till now, and in that duration it has found a sense of being safe. That is why you accept tradition. Because in tradition there is safety, in imitation there is safety, in conformity there is safety, and there is also safety in an illusion. Obviously. All your gods are illusions obviously, put up by thought. So there is not only the obvious continuity, in which the brain seeks safety, but also it finds safety in all kinds of illusory activities in our daily life. Which is a belief or faith is an illusion. There is no need for belief or faith, but having a faith in God, in Jesus, in Krishna or whatever you like to call it and in that faith, in that belief, in that devotion, there is a sense of being protected, being in the womb of god (laughs), which is an illusion. So we are asking now, whether the brain can discover an ending of this continuity of time, because the continuity of time is considered advancement, progress, evolution, evolution based on the continuity of knowledge. And we are challenging that.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/the-movement-of-meditation-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/Lhl4-y7tNCQ/what-is-a-religious-mind-full-version.php<p>So we are using religion and the mind - we have explained through words what the speaker means by religion and the mind. And we are asking, or rather challenging: what is a religious mind? You are challenging it, I am not challenging it, I am not pushing you into a corner to answer. After all existence, living, is a constant process of challenge. You can duck, or run away, or answer it along a particular cultural tradition. But when you answer according to tradition or culture, or environment, then that answer will be very limited. So we are saying, we are asking, we are challenging each other to discover, to find out by careful observation, by careful examination, by investigating 'what is' and whether 'what is' can be totally transformed.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/what-is-a-religious-mind-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/GYc4yNXafo0/what-brings-about-disorder-in-relationship-full-version.php<p>I would suggest that we first look at our life - actually what it is, what is happening in our life because our life in action is society. Right sir? You get it? Agree? Our life in action is our society, and you cannot transform that society unless you transform yourself. That's so obvious. The communists, the liberals, the socialists will not alter it. Or your reading the Gita, the Upanishads will not alter it, or becoming terribly interested in what Buddhism has to say, or follow Zen meditation, you know, none of those will solve it - don't know what has happened today - so, let us look at what is happening in our life, in our daily life. Our daily life is based on relationship. Without relationship, you cannot possibly exist. Right? What is our relationship with each other, not you two sitting together, I don't mean that - but with your wife, with your husband, with your boss, with your factory worker, with your labourer, what is your relationship with each other? In that relationship is there order? Not self-centred activity opposed to another self-centred activity - you follow what... That is contradiction. I may be married, have children, sex and all the rest of it, and if I am self-centred, concerned about my own success, my ambition, my status, worrying about my - all the rest of it - and she is also concerned about herself, her problems, her beauty, her looks and you know, all the rest of it - how can there by any kind of relationship between the two people? You understand all this? If you have one belief and the other has another kind of belief or another kind of conclusion, another kind of dogma, there is no relationship. Haven't you noticed all this?</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/what-brings-about-disorder-in-relationship-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/_y_rFM36AEM/is-freedom-a-matter-of-time-full-version.php<p>So, we are saying: observe violence, which is to be angry, to hate, to be jealous - various forms of violence, and don't escape into a non-violent movement, which is the opposite. So, when you observe the fact, there is no opposite. Are you following all this? I observe violence in me. I am violent. Why should there be non-violence? That's my conditioning. Right? That's my hope. That's my intellectual concept - one day I will be non-violent - to be... what is it, what I was talking about? - violence. So the fact of violence, the fact has no opposite. Right? Do you see that? If you see that, you are finished. You understand? Because all our education, all our religion, everything traditional has said: work at it, gradually get rid of it - you follow?. Which is movement in time, which is division. Time is division. So when there is observation of violence, only violence, the observer who is watching the violence - you follow? - that very observer is violence. Right? Right? So the observer is the observed. Are you getting tired? You understand sir? The moment you have a division it's the movement in time, and therefore there must be effort which is, the observer is thinking, the observer thinks he is different from the thing he observes, and so the very division brings conflict, conflict, suppression and all the rest of it. But when the observer realises, that which he is observing is part of himself, so there is no division, there is no duality at all. Right? So, can you see this fact that you are violent, and the fact has no division.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/is-freedom-a-matter-of-time-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/C81pk4xXm5U/an-action-that-is-not-the-outcome-of-thought-full-version.php<p>Is there an action which is not fragmentary which has no regrets, no sense of incompleteness?<br />Is there security in the things of thought<br />Is all psychological security an illusion?</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/an-action-that-is-not-the-outcome-of-thought-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/xHxxtuQcN34/organisations-have-not-saved-man-full-version.phpThere is outer and inner fragmentation. Who is going to change man? Have organisations of any kind helped? To go very far we must begin very near which is with ourselves. Is one aware of one's thoughts feelings, fears, pleassure?http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/organisations-have-not-saved-man-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/eTI0SATkc-Q/what-kind-of-brain-is-needed-for-meditation-full-version.php<p>A brain must have space. So what is space? Not only the space between here and there - space indicates 'without a centre'. Right? If you have a centre, and you move away from the centre to the periphery, however long, wide the periphery is, it is still limited. Right? Are we following each other? So, space indicates, does it not, where there is no centre and there is no periphery, there is no boundary. Have we such a brain that one doesn't belong to any thing, attached to anything - attached to one's experience, conclusions, hopes, ideals, and so on, so that the brain is really, completely free? Right? If it is burdened, you can't walk very far, you can't go very far. If it is crude, vulgar, self-centred, it cannot have measureless space. And space indicates - one is using the word very, very carefully - emptiness. Are you following? Does it interest you at all this? Are you sure, coming here in spite of the awful rain and wind, we are communicating with each other?</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/what-kind-of-brain-is-needed-for-meditation-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/qLTnbGir44c/freedom-from-the-self-full-version.php<p>So what is the cause, the root of fear? Is it thought and is it time? We must cover a great deal so we must be brief. Is it thought - thinking about the future or thinking about the past? And so, is thought one of the causes of fear? And is time also the cause - time, as growing old, as most of us are. The moment we are born we are already growing old. And time as future - not by the watch, by the day or by the year - but time as a movement from 'what is' to 'what should be', 'what might be', 'what has been', we said the whole movement of time, the psychological process of time - is that one of the causes of fear? The memory of some pain, both physical and psychological, which might have happened a couple of weeks ago and remembering that and being afraid that it might happen again - which is the movement of time and thought.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/freedom-from-the-self-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/E2zgAH88RCs/2nd-question-and-answer-meeting--1983--full-version.php<p><strong>K: </strong>Then sir, that means the idea of individual separation, psychologically, is non-existent. That means you have tremendous responsibility for the whole. If I feel tremendous responsibility I will not kill a Brazilian, an Arab, because he is part of me. I don't know if you go as far as that. And that is not pacifism - that is another conclusion. The fact is our consciousness is shared by all humanity.</p> <p>Now what is the relationship between consciousness, mind, brain and all the rest of it - meditation included, all right, include everything - what is the relationship between them all? Is the cord of relationship thought? As the pearls are held together by a thin nylon thread, are all these, consciousness, mind, brain and so on, held together by thought? Thought is the thin line, thin fibre that holds all this together? Please. So one has to go into the very question: why has thought become so extraordinarily vibrant, alive, and full of activity? Right? Why? Is thought feeling? Is thought emotion? Of course it is. If I do not recognise an emotion, which is the activity of thought to recognise, then that emotion is not. You understand all this? So thought apparently is the main thread that holds the whole thing together? Is that so?</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/2nd-question-and-answer-meeting--1983--full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/yZ96M1hjakU/1st-question-and-answer-meeting--30th-august-1983-full-version.php<p>Why have human beings yielded to desire, to do everything that they wanted to do, on one side; and there are other human beings who say you must suppress desire? You understand this? The monks, the sanyasis of India, and the Buddhist monks, all say you must control your desire, or transform your desire to god. Do you understand all this? Turn your desire to the worship of your saviour, turn this desire that is so strong, take vows against it - vows of celibacy, vows of silence, vows of one meal a day. You understand? Have you ever been in a monastery? No? I was in one for some time for fun. And I watched, I listened, slept there, did the things they did. It was really a cruel affair. Take a vow of silence and never speak again - you understand what it means? Never look at a woman. Do you understand all this? Never look at the sky, the beauty of trees, the solitary tree in a field, never communicate what you are feeling to another. Do you understand all this? In the name of service, in the name of god, human beings have tortured themselves to find illumination, to find enlightenment, to find something or other, heaven. And that is a tremendously torturing affair. And desire is at the root of all this. Right? I wonder if you understand all this.</p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/1st-question-and-answer-meeting--30th-august-1983-full-version.phphttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JKOnline_Videos/~3/1ZpjOLqz-Us/only-in-peace-can-the-human-mind-be-free-full-version.php<p><span style="font-family: Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">So we are asking a question, which is, are we separate from the rest of humanity? You understand my question? Are you separate? Are you an individual so that you as an individual are seeking your own happiness, your own pleasures, solitary in your illusions, in your particular form of imaginative hope? So this is a question that must be answered very carefully, gone into, by both of us. Because if that is the cause of it, it is either the cause is rational, real, actual and then we have to deal with that, or it is really illusory. Each one of us has been brought up to think that we are individuals, separate. Is that a fact? Is our consciousness - which contains our behaviour, our reactions, our pleasures, fears, anxieties, sorrow and all the experiences, knowledge, all that is our consciousness, what you are, what each one of us is - is that consciousness different from the rest of humanity? You understand my question?</span></p>http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-video/only-in-peace-can-the-human-mind-be-free-full-version.php