Comments for Heavenly Ascents http://www.heavenlyascents.com A Blog Exploring Early Jewish and Christian Mysticism and Other Topics in Religion Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:18:46 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Instructions for the Netherworld: The Orphic Gold Tablets by Travis http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/5UwkapnwUrw/ Travis Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:18:46 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1096#comment-1538 Thanks for the post Dave, very interesting stuff. Do the authors mention the similarity to Egyptian practice? Also William, I appreciate the reference to Robert Graves-my favorite author! Thanks for the post Dave, very interesting stuff. Do the authors mention the similarity to Egyptian practice? Also William, I appreciate the reference to Robert Graves-my favorite author!


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2009/06/18/instructions-for-the-netherworld-the-orphic-gold-tablets/comment-page-1/#comment-1538 Comment on This Week: Codex Vaticanus and “Performative Deification” by WalkerW http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/ui9hDjnpO_I/ WalkerW Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:20:00 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1923#comment-1526 It is interesting that there is the mention of holy/godlike/angelic tongues within the Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice. Reminds me of our discussion on Nephi and the "tongues of angels." It is interesting that there is the mention of holy/godlike/angelic tongues within the Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice. Reminds me of our discussion on Nephi and the “tongues of angels.”


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/03/12/this-week-codex-vaticanus-and-performative-deification/comment-page-1/#comment-1526 Comment on This Week: Codex Vaticanus and “Performative Deification” by David Larsen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/Ar_vJY7mwEQ/ David Larsen Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:35:34 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1923#comment-1519 I agree. Unfortunately, there seems to be more and more of a disconnect between the work of biblical scholars and the preaching of the churches. That's one of the great things about the LDS church -- instead of feeling threatened by these ancient texts, we more often embrace them and feel validated by them. I agree. Unfortunately, there seems to be more and more of a disconnect between the work of biblical scholars and the preaching of the churches. That’s one of the great things about the LDS church — instead of feeling threatened by these ancient texts, we more often embrace them and feel validated by them.


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/03/12/this-week-codex-vaticanus-and-performative-deification/comment-page-1/#comment-1519 Comment on Instructions for the Netherworld: The Orphic Gold Tablets by David Larsen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/keIfnOShhNY/ David Larsen Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:28:04 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1096#comment-1517 Hmmm....sound very interesting! I have never read the poem. I will definitely have to look it up! Thank you! Hmmm….sound very interesting! I have never read the poem. I will definitely have to look it up! Thank you!


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2009/06/18/instructions-for-the-netherworld-the-orphic-gold-tablets/comment-page-1/#comment-1517 Comment on This Week: Codex Vaticanus and “Performative Deification” by Rameumptom http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/lu5q1t0YrJM/ Rameumptom Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:34:46 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1923#comment-1473 Of course, I'm jealous that you are studying with Jim Davila.... Don't you wish more traditional Christians could be made uncomfortable with the ancient texts (and Bible, for that matter)? Someday we will all come to a unity of the faith, and thanks to true scholars, we are getting a little closer. Of course, I’m jealous that you are studying with Jim Davila…. Don’t you wish more traditional Christians could be made uncomfortable with the ancient texts (and Bible, for that matter)? Someday we will all come to a unity of the faith, and thanks to true scholars, we are getting a little closer.


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/03/12/this-week-codex-vaticanus-and-performative-deification/comment-page-1/#comment-1473 Comment on Instructions for the Netherworld: The Orphic Gold Tablets by William Graves http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/JpqxBpNTnZ0/ William Graves Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:20:39 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1096#comment-1435 Are you aware of the poem "Instructions to the Orphic Adept" which Orpheus sings to the Argonauts in Robert Graves's The Golden Fleece (Hercules, my Shipmate) published 1944? The translation of the Orphic tablets made by Sir Gilbert Myrray in 1903 is incorporated in the poem. The poem may also be found in Graves's Collected poems. Are you aware of the poem “Instructions to the Orphic Adept” which Orpheus sings to the Argonauts in Robert Graves’s The Golden Fleece (Hercules, my Shipmate) published 1944? The translation of the Orphic tablets made by Sir Gilbert Myrray in 1903 is incorporated in the poem. The poem may also be found in Graves’s Collected poems.


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2009/06/18/instructions-for-the-netherworld-the-orphic-gold-tablets/comment-page-1/#comment-1435 Comment on The Jewish Legends of Jacob vs. Esau: The Birthright and the Blessing by David Larsen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/Jb0iQV7I3TQ/ David Larsen Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:25:27 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1912#comment-1397 Thanks, Gerald! I read your post and it is great! I highly recommend it! I don't know how you find time to cover so much material. You have really put together some great material and focus on all the right points. Keep up the good work! Thanks, Gerald!
I read your post and it is great! I highly recommend it! I don’t know how you find time to cover so much material.
You have really put together some great material and focus on all the right points. Keep up the good work!


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/03/04/the-jewish-legends-of-jacob-vs-esau-the-birthright-and-the-blessing/comment-page-1/#comment-1397 Comment on “Noah…Prepared an Ark to the Saving of His House” (Old Testament Lesson 6) by David Larsen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/08SqjQIGrJs/ David Larsen Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:22:43 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1820#comment-1396 Tyson, I think you've put together some good thought here. I think Cain's main fault was that he was offering the sacrifice that Satan wanted him to offer and in obedience to Satan instead of God. But the question of priesthood authority is certainly a valid one. There is also the worthiness to participate in the priesthood--which is why Jacob was ultimately the preferable choice to take over the priesthood duties instead of Esau, and Joseph over his brothers, although neither were the firstborn son. Thanks, David Tyson,
I think you’ve put together some good thought here. I think Cain’s main fault was that he was offering the sacrifice that Satan wanted him to offer and in obedience to Satan instead of God. But the question of priesthood authority is certainly a valid one. There is also the worthiness to participate in the priesthood–which is why Jacob was ultimately the preferable choice to take over the priesthood duties instead of Esau, and Joseph over his brothers, although neither were the firstborn son.
Thanks,
David


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/02/04/noah-prepared-an-ark-to-the-saving-of-his-house-old-testament-lesson-6/comment-page-1/#comment-1396 Comment on The Three Men Who Appeared to Abraham: The Godhead, Angels, or Human Beings? (Old Testament Lesson 8) by David Larsen http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/Q_-62-bjxGg/ David Larsen Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:16:27 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1862#comment-1394 Thank you all for your comments. Thank you all for your comments.


]]> http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/02/19/the-three-men-who-appeared-to-abraham-the-godhead-angels-or-human-beings-old-testament-lesson-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1394 Comment on The Jewish Legends of Jacob vs. Esau: The Birthright and the Blessing by Gerald Smith http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HeavenlyAscentsComments/~3/5vkGLR5_GBc/ Gerald Smith Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:00:32 +0000 http://www.heavenlyascents.com/?p=1912#comment-1377 David, thanks. I don't have Ginzberg, and so there were some things I didn't have. I've completed my Lesson 10, tried to do it first before reading yours, so as to try and do my own thing. Funny how there is some overlap, but differences, as well. However, I've linked to your site from my lesson at Joel's Monastery. The story of the garment and Nimrod/Esau is found in the Book of Jasher. Isn't it amazing how these additional points from tradition expand out and give understanding to the story line? http://joelsmonastery.blogspot.com/2010/03/gospel-doctrine-ot-lesson-10.html David, thanks. I don’t have Ginzberg, and so there were some things I didn’t have. I’ve completed my Lesson 10, tried to do it first before reading yours, so as to try and do my own thing. Funny how there is some overlap, but differences, as well. However, I’ve linked to your site from my lesson at Joel’s Monastery.
The story of the garment and Nimrod/Esau is found in the Book of Jasher. Isn’t it amazing how these additional points from tradition expand out and give understanding to the story line?

http://joelsmonastery.blogspot.com/2010/03/gospel-doctrine-ot-lesson-10.html


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