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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" gd:etag="W/&quot;CUEGSH46cSp7ImA9WxBRF0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057</id><updated>2010-01-05T21:53:49.019-07:00</updated><title>Edmonton Housing Bust</title><subtitle type="html" /><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>120</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/EdmontonHousingBust" /><link rel="license" type="text/html" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkIBSH8zeyp7ImA9WxBRF0w.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-8638326582364645675</id><published>2010-01-05T11:32:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-05T12:09:19.183-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2010-01-05T12:09:19.183-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Monthly Stats" /><title>December numbers are in...</title><content type="html">The EREB released the December resale numbers for Edmonton today. We're continuing to see the expected seasonal trends for sales and inventory, both typically dive off a cliff in December... prices largely held, except condos where they took a BIG bounce after two months of sharp falls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-1s.jpg" alt="Prices" title="Prices" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;With condos apparently decoupling in &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/october-numbers-are-in.html"&gt;October&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/november-numbers-are-in.html"&gt;November&lt;/a&gt; and seeing rather large month over month declines while the rest of the market held, you had to figure either they'd bounce back up or SFH's would shortly start to follow the same trend... and we got the former, to the tune of a rather massive 5.4%. This is actually fairly normal behavior after sharp drops (&gt;2% MoM), they'll often bounce back to their prior level or close too it. Given the holding of prices in the SFH category, and even the appreciation of prices in Calgary the condo price dive did seem to have all the marks of an abberation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's been an interest year, as a year ago prices were nearing their bottom before interest rates took a big dive in the spring and really spurred the Canadian real estate market. So year-over-year we're starting to see rather a decent appreciation, while over the last six months prices have merely held. Now we're left with a waiting game to see what happens with interest rates... when will they jump, and more importantly, how high.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-2s.jpg" alt="Inventory and Sales" title="Inventory and Sales" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Like I mentioned, as is usual for December inventory and sales take a big dive. Seems a large percentage of listings expire at year year, thus we typically see a big wave of delistings the last week of December... then several get relisted immediately in the new year, while others trickle in through winter and spring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sales also typically are at their bottom in December, and I think we could fairly safely reason that is due to the extended holiday period and everything that comes with that. Relative to past years, December '09's sales were fairly strong, high end of average.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100105-3s.jpg" alt="Absorption Rate" title="Absorption Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And here we have the absorption rate. It continues to settle back towards the normal range. This will be very interesting to follow once rates start going up. That will of course soften sales, but I also suspect we could see another explosion of listings somewhere along the way when market sentiment swings. Perhaps not to the level seen in '08, but approaching that territory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, and as always, here are the hard numbers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sales = 948&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = +10.6% (+91)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +55.9% (+340)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -24.8% (-313)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Active Listings = 4,037&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = -43.1% (-3,057)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = -36.1% (-2,279)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -22.8% (-1,189)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Median= $351,350&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -12.2% (-$48,650)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +6.5% (+$21,350)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +0.5% (+$1,850)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = +0.4% (+$1,350)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Residential Average = $319,201&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -10.0% (-$35,517)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +2.6% (+$8,227)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = -2.8% (-$9,098)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = +0.2% (+$719)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Average = $366,761&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -13.9% (-$59,267)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +4.2% (+$14,891)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = -0.8% (-$3,098)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -0.3% (-$1,257)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Condo Average = $244,174&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -10.2% (-$27,734)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +4.2% (+$9,888)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = -1.2% (-$2,897)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = +5.4% (-$12,490)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-8638326582364645675?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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We're just going to do a quick post tonight, cause the December resale numbers should be out in the next two days and I have a neat little analysis on tap for later in the week. Hope everyone has recovered from all the merriment and revelry of the holidays. Things were good in the EHB household... though I do suspect that some of Santa's elves broke in here and systematically shrunk all my pants in the last week or so. Not that I have any proof, but that's the only explanation I can think of for them to suddenly be more snug than usual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I've gotten older I've noticed that my list of people I need to buy for keeps growing, all the while my list of things I want keeps getting shorter. This year it was just a couple books, couple movies.. but chiefly Megan Fox complete with a pool full of chocolate pudding. Admittedly there may have been some practical limitations on that last one, and judging from the dirty look the girlfriend flashed me after giving her the list, possible some issues above and beyond those.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless, the good sport that she is, she came through with the books. I was particularly excited about the Barry Ritholtz tome about the financial crisis, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Bailout-Nation-Corrupted-Street-Economy/dp/0470520388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1262570681&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;'&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Bailout Nation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;'. Those who have explored my "recommended reading" blogroll would have noticed the link to his blog '&lt;a href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/"&gt;The Big Picture&lt;/a&gt;'... and my tweets are also continually directing people to his entries. Anyone who likes this blog would surely enjoy his. Tons of stats, analysis, macroeconomic discussion, clever, practical, and a vastly better writer than yours truly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could hardly put the book down, tore threw it about a day and a half. It was fascinating, and a great play-by-play for all the who's, what's, where's, when's and why's of the financial crisis. A big part of that being the housing bubble in the U.S., which he discusses at length.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which while we find ourselves in a different boat here in Canada insofar as the impact a housing bust would have on our financial sector (the taxpayers are already on the hook here should boom go bust... whereas in the U.S. it was the instrument holders holding the bag, at least initially before the government bailed them out to a large extent), the housing sector itself appear very much in the same boat. Prices suddenly and severely got out of line with everyone from income and market rents right up to GDP (speaking of which there is a fascinating look at the housing booms effect on GDP growth, something I'm going to try to replicate for Canada).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you find yourself wandering through a bookstore and have a few minutes, I suggest picking up a copy (it would be in the finance and/or investing section) and read through Chapter 21 - The Virtues of Foreclosure. It's only ten pages, and at least two of those are graphs, so it's not heavy reading. You'll notice he hits many of the same points I've been hammering on here, only far more eloquently and succinctly. In fact, I'll probably be stealing and paraphrasing much of it in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In conclusion, it's a great and very informative read for any of your arm-chair economists out there, or just anyone interested in finance. Like I said, it's an easy read, he's got a very pragmatic viewpoint, writes in a conversational style and the chapters are relatively short so you just fly through it. And no I'm not getting paid for all this gushing, I just think that for anyone that enjoys my blog here it's something should read and would enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Bailout-Nation-Corrupted-Street-Economy/dp/0470520388/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1262570681&amp;amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/100103-2.jpg" alt="Bailout Nation" title="Bailout Nation" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7714733716635390222?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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I remember ten years ago spending Y2K renting out a cabin retreat out in the mountains with several friends from university, figuring if the world ended as feared we wouldn't find out for a couple days. Ah, the good old days when I had a liver and could drink until it seemed like a good idea to take my turn climbing into a giant culvert and getting pushed down a large rocky hill... and then wake up the next morning in good enough spirits to do it all again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The future leaders of this fine nation my friends!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't laugh, two of those guys that have already been elected to parliament... and I have enough dirt on either to bring them down. Of course there are many that have just as much on me, which is why you will never see me running for any sort of office. I'm just eternally grateful digital technology was still in its infancy, mere hazy memories from the fellow conspirators is too much documentation for my taste... god forbid if we had camera phones and youtube...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, 2009, what a year huh? Started with economic uncertainty and parliament prorogued... okay, so maybe we haven't made a lot of movement on that front. But we do now have governments running massive deficits, even here in Alberta, record low interest rates, and all signs pointing to a national housing bubble all of our own (though we trend-setters here in the West were already well ahead of the curve on that one!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somewhat surprising considering we here in Edmonton (and most of the country for that matter) started the year with the lowest 1st quarter sales tally in at least a decade (and this coming of 4Q '08 which was the worst quarterly tally, period). With the economy as a whole tanking it was no surprise the US Fed pulled out the old &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspan_put"&gt;Greenspan Put&lt;/a&gt;, not surprising because that's been their only response to economic lag in the last twenty years... what did surprise was the extent to which rates were cut, right down to zero. Of course the Bank of Canada followed suit (as if they had a choice), as did most the rest of the developed world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's even more troubling is the world seemingly following Japan's lead on how to deal with a collapsing asset bubble... and tried to prop up the banks, bail out the fools holding the junk entirely at the expense of the taxpayer, and keeping the toxic assets in the system... an approach that left Japan bleeding their way to a slow agonizing death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rather than, say, follow the Sweden's lead (whom also had economic troubles in the early 90's) who restructured their troubled banks, made those that made bad investments eat their losses and came out the other side with well capitalized banks and an economy that's actually shown signs of life. Of course that sounds way too much like capitalism to ever work in the US (its amazing how quickly those champions of the free market on Wall St. became screaming welfare queens the moment their chickens came home to roost, wasn't it?!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any who, that's a story for another day... as the year progressed interest rates hit all time lows, and here in the Great White North it sent the populous into a real estate frenzy. Even in Edmonton, still in the hangover from the bubble that just popped in 2007 houses started moving at a near record clip. The worst 1st Quarter in a decade was followed by the the 3rd best 2Q and 2nd best 3Q ever (FWIW, the 4Q will either be 2nd or 3rd best depending on December, and the year on the whole will be the 3rd best on record, just behind the bubblicious '06 and '07).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fortunately for us the inventory hangover saved us from much price escalation. Prices today are still roughly what they were in January... the same can't be said for many other markets. Toronto is up over 20%, Vancouver 15%, and even Calgary was up 5-10% despite being on much the same cycle as we are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only time will tell how these low interest induced purchases will play out, but with extensive rate hikes expected in the medium term there does remain a possibility with the Canadian mortgage structure that we could cause the same kind of 2/28 meltdown the US had. We could call 'em 5/30's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And towards the end of the year as the housing bubble took hold in the densely populated (and hotly politically contested) Eastern provinces, it was suddenly getting increasing attention from the media and politicians. First it was Mark Carney trying to work the same magic he had talking down the dollar, trying to talk down real estate... and now we've even got Jim Flaherty threatening to drop the hammer and scale back amortization periods and/or raise downpayment requirements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If he pulls that out during the spring budget, then interest rate hikes start hitting in the summer that would really slam the breaks on sales and prices... but rest assured we won't see the former without banks, builders, agents, etc screaming bloody murder. They'll yell and stamp their feet protesting intervention and trumpet the free-market... of course this is the same bunch that lobbied long and hard to have the government intervene and strip standards earlier in the decade. The real free market solution would be abolish the CMHC altogether and let the market truly dictate rates and credit worthiness... and the mere notion of that would have those groups shitting bricks, so we know how free market they really are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking back, 2009 was an incredibly eventful year, yet didn't really tell us much. Thus far the governments approach to solving debt problems is more debt, kind of like trying to drink oneself sober I guess. Speaking from experience though, that don't work, but what do I know? It seems 2010 will be a really interesting one on the real estate front too... as will 2011 and likely 2012 for that matter. So stay tuned, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have a safe and happy New Years everyone!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-3771878914440810603?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Hopefully your stomach and liver paced itself though, as New Year is now fast approaching and another round of parties and dinners await. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hard to believe we're on the cusp of a new decade, I can still remember ten years ago suddenly feeling very old as infomercials for the first of the 90's collections of music started to air. So, in honour of that memory I dug out a couple old CD's (yeah, CD's, remember those?!) to give this entry a soundtrack. Fuel's '&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Sunburn&lt;/span&gt;', is playing as we speak for those curious... I must have just about drove my dorm-mates insane blasting &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;'&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0QMfK9hzgA"&gt;Shimmer&lt;/a&gt;'&lt;/span&gt; incessantly as a freshman. Toad the Wet Sprocket's '&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Dulcinea&lt;/span&gt;' is on deck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, enough reminiscing, on with the show. Just before the break Statcan released their latest &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/091223/dq091223b-eng.htm"&gt;population figures&lt;/a&gt;, which while generally unspectacular it did have one interesting component... Alberta's interprovincial migration went negative in the 3rd quarter of 2009.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091227-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091227-1s.jpg" alt="Interprovincial Migration" title="Interprovincial Migration" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;That is the first time since Q4 '94 its been negative, and not just that but to a degree not seen since Q3 '88, while the province was still shaking off the previous boom/bust cycle. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though while certainly notable, this is obviously not anywhere near the exodus witnessed in the 80's bust (at least not yet) as the quarterly losses then were much deeper and lasted for years on end. I wouldn't expect it to reach the same levels because, as we &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/boom-bust-and-echo.html"&gt;discussed&lt;/a&gt; last week the recent boom was just not of the same magnitude of the prior one. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While interprovincial migration went negative, the population itself did &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-002-x/2009003/t329-eng.htm"&gt;still grow&lt;/a&gt; (again, in light of &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/easy-come-easy-go.html"&gt;another discussion&lt;/a&gt;, not surprising). The natural increase (basically birth rate exceeding death rate) alone was greater then the net interprovinvial migration. Beyond that international migration levels remained constant, which is to be expected as we &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/090421-3.jpg"&gt;looked at&lt;/a&gt; back in April. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This will be another interesting stat to keep an eye on for the next couple years, as it is very much a barometer of the economic health of the province. Interprovincial migration more then the other elements of population can swing wildly as young people flock to where the jobs are. So when interprovincial migration goes negative like it has, it's a sign a lot of young people are leaving the province.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7088402271449953901?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/oMbP5r0aIe4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/7088402271449953901/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/interprovincial-migration-goes-negative.html#comment-form" title="6 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7088402271449953901?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7088402271449953901?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/oMbP5r0aIe4/interprovincial-migration-goes-negative.html" title="Interprovincial migration goes negative" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">6</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/interprovincial-migration-goes-negative.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE8FSHY9cCp7ImA9WxBSFUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-3658912789330974594</id><published>2009-12-23T12:01:00.006-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-23T12:33:39.868-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-23T12:33:39.868-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Foreclosures" /><title>Happy Festivus!</title><content type="html">&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="570"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dS7-jcsB_WQ&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dS7-jcsB_WQ&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="570"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've got a lot of problems with you people! And now, you're gonna hear about it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps you're just getting ready to take off for the holidays, or maybe you've been fortunate enough to already have left work in your wake. In any case, we've got time for one more update and lucky for us this morning the &lt;a href="http://cba.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;view=publication&amp;amp;id=69&amp;amp;Itemid=56&amp;amp;lang=en"&gt;CBA released&lt;/a&gt; the October mortgage arrears figures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091223-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091223-1s.jpg" alt="Mortgage Arrears" title="Mortgage Arrears" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As you can see, as of All Hallows Eve the arrears rate in Alberta has matched it's prior all-time high at 0.69% set in February of 1997. Technically it's still a fraction below the prior high water mark (0.00174% to be exact), but it's showing no sign of slowing down. Thus, in all likelihood come the November release we will be setting new record highs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it stands now we're up 0.55% from the record low reached in May '07, and this will be the 25th consecutive month of increase. We are up 0.34% year-over-year and 0.02% month-over-month. The rate in Alberta continues to have by far the highest in the nation, with the Atlantic provinces coming in second at 0.50% (up 0.01% MoM, and 0.10% YoY).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nationally the rate stands at 0.44%, the highest it's been since March of 2002. Up 0.01% from a month earlier, and 0.15% from a year earlier. Ontario was the only province that had a month-over-month decrease (down 0.01%) to 0.42%. Manitoba continues to have the lowest rate in Canada, holding at 0.26% (up 0.06 YoY).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that about wraps it up (pardon the pun). Now excuse me, I must go dig the pole out of the crawl space and prepare for the Feats of Strength. Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-3658912789330974594?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/3a_O0Dce8Bw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/3658912789330974594/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/happy-festivus.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/3658912789330974594?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/3658912789330974594?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/3a_O0Dce8Bw/happy-festivus.html" title="Happy Festivus!" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/happy-festivus.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0EERX45eSp7ImA9WxBSFE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-7730225426369973445</id><published>2009-12-21T16:12:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-21T16:53:24.021-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-21T16:53:24.021-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Alberta" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Demographics" /><title>Easy Come... Easy Go</title><content type="html">I was hoping the latest arrears numbers would come out today, but evidently no such luck. So instead I'll do a quick follow up to a question arising from &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/boom-bust-and-echo.html"&gt;Fridays post&lt;/a&gt;... that being did we have a similar influx of twenty somethings during the late 70's/early 80's boom, and if so, what became of them during the subsequent bust?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091221-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091221-1s.jpg" alt="Easy come, easy go" title="Easy come, easy go" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The answer appears to be, yes we did, and they left. Just like in the last few years we've saw a distinct rise in the number of young people during the boom years relative to the rest of the population, peaking in 1981... and as surely as the economy cooled those same young people left the province just as quickly as they came.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, the first boom in terms of migration was larger then the current one, even in nominal terms, thus vastly so in a proportional sense. From 1975 to 1981 the population grew by roughly 482,000, or 26.7%. Comparatively, from 2002 to 2008, the population grew by 457,000, or 14.6%. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This relationship holds for those of the peaking demographics too, as 23 year old population in 1981 numbered 19,214 or 51.1% larger than they had six years prior (when they were 17)... currently 24 year olds are now the largest group and in the last six years their ranks have swelled by 14,518 or 31.1% over what they were six years prior (when they were 18).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, we know after 1981 the population of the province as a whole didn't actually contract, growth just largely ground to a halt for the better part of the decade... the population of those 23 years olds did contract though, as by 1987 there were 4,700 fewer (of the now 29 year olds). There was enough overall in-migration to offset the out-migration of young people, and eventually everything settled back into their pre-boom equilibrium in regards to proportion of population.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if the economy remains slow we shouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of young people/young families leave the province in coming years in search of greener pastures... but the population as a whole will likely not shrink as overall migration should offset those losses.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7730225426369973445?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/KsrrLmfRiRI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/7730225426369973445/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/easy-come-easy-go.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7730225426369973445?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7730225426369973445?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/KsrrLmfRiRI/easy-come-easy-go.html" title="Easy Come... Easy Go" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/easy-come-easy-go.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0ACSHs7fip7ImA9WxBSEUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-7270917666244675008</id><published>2009-12-18T13:14:00.006-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-18T13:56:09.506-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-18T13:56:09.506-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Demographics" /><title>Boom, Bust and Echo</title><content type="html">We're going to do something a little different today and take a stab at something I've been curious about for a long time, age demographics and the effect of baby boomers. I've also prepared a neat little graph the displays an interesting phenomena resulting from our recent economic boom here in Alberta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091218-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091218-1s.jpg" alt="Canada - Demographics - Age" title="Canada - Demographics - Age" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is something of a time lapse graph to show the progression of the 'wave' of baby boomers. We see the first big spike there on the 1971 plot at 24 years old (as well as the other plots at 5 year intervals), those were the ones born from July 1946-June 1947... whose conceptions appears to be not so coincidentally closely correlated with the end of WWII. I wonder why that would be?!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wave of boomers subsided a bit after the initial rush, but after a couple years started climbing again and did not crest until about 15 years later. Those would be people that are between 45-50 years old today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see in the graph that over time the graph seems to shift lower. This is due to expanding population, and that it largely expanded outside the boomer generation.  This is from factors like immigration, the ripple effect of their own offspring, and advances in technology and living conditions allowing people to live longer (median age has risen from 26 in 1971, to 39 today), reduced infant mortality rates (10.9/1000 in 1979, to 5.4/1000 in 2005), etc, etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is also interesting to note is the reduced birth rate that started in the mid-90's and has been very pronounced in the last decade (extreme left of graph, light green and blue lines nearest the bottom). This is probably due to societal shifts towards smaller family. We saw the initial drop off from the boomer generation that was at a certain level... then when they started having kids we saw something of a leveling off again as the echo generation were born... and now echo generation are having their own offspring and we seem to be seeing a second downward shift down and leveling as the generation twice removed from boomers arrive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some time in the future I'll do a point discussing the macroeconomic effects of the exodus of baby boomers from the work force and into retirement, or more specifically, their move from being a crucial tax revenue base to increasing health care liabilities. Within that we'll look at the individual provinces and see who should weather storm and who could get crushed by the retirement wave.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091218-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091218-2s.jpg" alt="Economic Boom = Migration Boom = Baby Boom?" title="Economic Boom = Migration Boom = Baby Boom?" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A time lapse graph for Alberta using the same time intervals looks very similar to the Canadian one, but I did notice one thing that I wanted to explore further. Upon further inspection and decreasing the intervals it was very noticeable even over just the last decade. This was the influx of young workers during our recent economic boom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keeping a close eye on the 20-30 age range we can see a very big bubble form seemingly out of nowhere. It was starting to protrude in '04, then was very noticeable in '06, and is now glaringly obvious in '08. In fact as of '08, 24 and 25 year olds were the largest demographic, even more plentiful then the peak baby boomers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, before someone gets excited and starts pointing to that little bubble as the silver bullet in justifying our little housing bubble... bear in mind that entire bubble above the mean for 20-30 year olds only represents about 30,000 spread out over a province of 3.3 million. So while it looks quite impressive, we're really just dealing with something much closer to a drop in the bucket than a whole new paradigm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Considering the availability of jobs, this would typically be the age group you'd expect to see a spike in since they're generally far more mobile (not established in careers, or tied down with family). It will be interesting to see this plays out over time, as they're still young and can leave as quickly as they came should they be so inclined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some will no doubt set down roots and settle though, and I think we may already be seeing the effects of that on the extreme right of the graph as the birth rate is increasing (unlike the rest of the country where leveled out). Our little economic boom brought a migration boom, and with most of those being young adults we're also starting to see a bit of a baby boom.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7270917666244675008?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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So, I guess we'll start with vacancies and work our way to rents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-1s.jpg" alt="Vacancy Rate" title="Vacancy Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here we see a big jump, especially in apartment vacancies over the last 12 months. Apartment vacancies stand at 4.5% (up 2.1% YoY), Row stand at 4.0% (up 0.9% YoY), which results in a market average of 4.4% (up 1.9% YoY).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The biggest jumps have came in 1-bedroom (4.5% vacancy) and 2-bedroom (4.7% vacancy) apartment units, up 2.3% and 2.2% respectively year-over-year. This is notable as combined those two divisions make up over 75% of all rental units in the city.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-2s.jpg" alt="Unit Share" title="Unit Share" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-3s.jpg" alt="Total Rental Units" title="Total Rental Units" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As we can see the total number of rental units available has continued to drop, down 700 units from last year and over 8,000 from just four years ago. So not only has the number of occupied units shrunk in the last twelve months, but the supply itself has contracted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091216-5s.jpg" alt="Edmonton - Average Rents" title="Edmonton - Average Rents" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Finally we've arrive at rents, and here is a graph for the two most common unit types. Recently the CMHC has started offering a partial spring update (only covers apartments), so I've included those and we can see that the increased vacancy rate has finally started to soften rents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back in the &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/06/rental-market-update.html"&gt;spring we noted&lt;/a&gt; that even though vacancies were up in a big way from last fall, rents were actually still trending up. Now it seems the effects of high vacancies are starting to show up in rents as they are now starting to noticeably decline, particularly two-bedroom apartments and townhouses. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/rental-market-update.html"&gt;explored&lt;/a&gt; the counter-intuitive phenomena of rents rising despite recent increases in vacancy rate last month, and explained it as a lagging effect due to the nature of the business. What was also interesting from that post though was the &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-4.jpg"&gt;cycle diagram&lt;/a&gt;. Which showed that when vacancies start rising that before starting to offer reduced rents, first outfits will start by offering incentives. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've been watching the offerings fora few buildings online over the couple years, and it it has been interesting to watching them evolve. A year and a half ago there were no incentives to be had, and advertised rents for new move-ins were at a significant premium over the market average.... then about a year ago as vacancy rates started to rise, we saw that premium disappear and move-in's were only asked to pay what established occupants were paying. But there were still no real incentives, and hadn't been for years as vacancy rates were super low. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then as the year progressed the advertised prices stayed about the same, but we started to see incentives being offered. First things like halving the security deposit, then first month/partial month free... items that really don't cost them anything since the units are sitting empty anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then come summer they started adding things like televisions, move-in allowances, tickets to sporting events, etc. Now I &lt;a href="http://www.bwalk.com/Rental/IncentiveDetails.asp?ProjectNo=85&amp;lng=ENcity=Edmonton"&gt;checked back this morning&lt;/a&gt; and their current offering is no rent for December, no security deposit, $500 move in allowance, and/or $100 off per month in rent. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, they're effectively cutting the rent but trying to avoid lowering their advertised rate. There is several reasons for that, including but not limited to not overtly pissing off established occupants who would find out they're paying more then new ones.. and also when leases come up for renewal they can hope the occupant just rolls over and keeps renting the place sans the incentives at the advertised rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the renters out there you have to be aware your landlord does play these games and you can get yourself a lot better deal if you play them too... especially in high vacancy environments like we have currently. If you're established as a good occupant, they don't want to lose you. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, you should be able to march down and negotiate yourself a good 15-25% reduction from whatever they're advertising (including incentives) if you haven't already. If they're willing to give any schmuck off the street a deal, you should be able to score yourself a real good one right about now... assuming you're not a point in the ass, in which case you'll probably find yourself shit outta luck.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-2910156324840125810?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/n3DgPucanr8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/2910156324840125810/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/rents-down-vacancies-up.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/2910156324840125810?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/2910156324840125810?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/n3DgPucanr8/rents-down-vacancies-up.html" title="Rents Down, Vacancies Up" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/rents-down-vacancies-up.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkMBRng9eCp7ImA9WxBTGUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-6991514374529447254</id><published>2009-12-15T06:23:00.004-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-15T16:07:37.660-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-15T16:07:37.660-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><title>Debt-to-income</title><content type="html">Greetings all, hope you're all finding a way to stay warm! Apparently this weekend Edmonton was the &lt;a href="http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/edmonton/2009/12/13/12141366.html"&gt;second coldest&lt;/a&gt; place on the planet. Alas the Siberians got to keep their claim for coldest. Anyway, we're just going to do a quick one today, as I'm still recovering from having my mind blown by the &lt;a href="http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/home.do"&gt;Dexter&lt;/a&gt; finale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Monday Statcan released their &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/091214/dq091214a-eng.htm"&gt;latest&lt;/a&gt; economic accounts data, and in it is an interesting little ratio we're going to discuss today... debt-to-income. Or more specifically, household debt-to-disposable income.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091215-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091215-1s.jpg" alt="Canada- Debt-to-income" title="Canada- Debt-to-income" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here we see the data going back to 1990. Seems Canadians have had an increasing appetite for debt the last two decades, and we're now sitting at an all-time high of 145%. Those that have been following this blog know this isn't earth shattering. As we've noted that over the same period the personal savings rate has also &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/personal-saving-rates.html"&gt;plummeted&lt;/a&gt;, so a rise in debt is normally part and parcel when that happens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beyond just consumer attitudes, such a change is also no doubt rooted in the &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/03/incomes-and-interest-rates.html"&gt;decline of interest rates&lt;/a&gt; over the same time. As interest rates dwindle, as does the incentive to save... conversely, lower rates also allow consumers to carry larger and larger debt loads. Which in combination with stagnant incomes of course equals a rise in debt-to-income measures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the latest Bank of Canada '&lt;a href="http://www.bank-banque-canada.ca/en/fsr/2009/fsr_1209.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Financial System Review'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, they have a nice presentation of our debt-to-income compared to those of the US and UK (Chart 21 -  note, the BoC data is through 2009-Q2, my graph earlier was through Q3). I've been trying to locate those foreign data sets too in an effort to recreate that graph, but have come up empty (I'm blaming the Dexter hangover).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are several &lt;a href="http://www.sweetorangehousing.com/2009/11/12/personal-debt-to-income-ratio-rose-to-over-100-revisted/"&gt;conflicting measures&lt;/a&gt; of the US numbers out there, so without knowing exactly what data sets Carney &amp;amp; Co. were using I can't vouch for exactly how good those comparison others are... but for our purposes today we'll give them the benefit of the doubt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091215-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091215-2s.jpg" alt="Debt-to-income International" title="Debt-to-income International" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;We see in that graph that the US and UK ratios top out around 165% (1.65) and 160% (1.60) respectively in late 2007, and since then have witnessed declines of 5% or better... whereas here in Canada even the recession has shown no signs of slowing the trend toward increased debt-loads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One should also remember though that the peaks of the US and UK figures also coincided with the peaks of their own housing bubbles... whereas our bubble is still building (on a national level anyway) in light of interest rates plummeting. So, there is no telling just how high our ratio might ultimately climb, and we should also keep in mind that housing bubbles are largely regional. Thus, from region to region that ratio could change drastically. Unfortunately I haven't found any data on the provincial or municipal level to share.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, this is another reason we need to keep an eye on interest rates, because if they shoot up it could spell disaster considering our record high debt loads. The last time fixed mortgage rates were as high as 8% for an extended period the average household debt-load was 45% lower then it is today.... not to mention households don't have nearly the level of savings to dip into as they did then either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taking on larger and larder debt-loads is one thing while rates are holding or going down as we've largely witnessed the last 28 years... but we've now hit bottom so there is now where to go but up. 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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/eCZglWl_w_w" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/6991514374529447254/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/debt-to-income.html#comment-form" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6991514374529447254?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6991514374529447254?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/eCZglWl_w_w/debt-to-income.html" title="Debt-to-income" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/debt-to-income.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0YHRX8yfSp7ImA9WxBTFUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-3378563566391697467</id><published>2009-12-11T05:11:00.008-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-11T15:05:34.195-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-11T15:05:34.195-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Historical Prices" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><title>Historical Prices and Inflation - Revisited</title><content type="html">Nary a week goes by I don't get a couple requests to revisit &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/03/historical-prices-and-inflation.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;. I wasn't thinking of doing it because prices are pretty much still in the same territory now as it was then, and inflation has been negligible... but my will has finally been broken, so let's &lt;a href="http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Fubar+Holidays/2319694/story.html"&gt;just giv'er&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-1s.jpg" alt="Edmonton - Historical Residential Average (Nominal)" title="Edmonton - Historical Residential Average (Nominal)" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Like last time, we'll start off giving you a look at the historical prices from a nominal perspective. That trajectory it took in 2006 still scares the hell out of me. Wow. Anyway, nominal prices are not that interesting or useful, so lets get on to the good stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-2s.jpg" alt="Edmonton - Historical Residential Average (Inflation Adjusted)" title="Edmonton - Historical Residential Average (Inflation Adjusted)" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Alrighty then, here is the inflation adjusted graph (all figures are in today's dollars). Obviously there are two periods that jump out at us, the big bubble there in the late 70's/early 80's, and the big spike from '06 on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You've likely noted the presence of a series of dotted lines, now we'll touch on those. Starting with the top one, which shows us the peak of the prior bubble and how long it took for prices to return to that level. We had the price top out at ~$232,000 in August 1979... a level it would not again reach until March of 2006. A period of twenty-six years and seven months for the mathematically challenged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The yellowish line is a (exponential) trend line/best-fit line. It shows that from 1962-to-present we've had roughly 1.6% annual appreciation. It theorized that our residential average should be closer to the $220,000-225,000 range currently. Thus the market is close to $100,000 over-valued at the moment relative to the long-term trend. At the peak of the market the spread was close to $150,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally I also included something of a price support line. These are used as a way of estimating the absolute bottom of a market, thus when prices near the price support line users start buying. That's not even to say prices must reach that level (or couldn't drop further for that matter), merely that if they do, it's considered a trigger to buy as the price had overshot the mean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the price support line going back to 1962 it figures in an annual appreciation of about 2.0%. Which is actually steeper then the trend line, but started much lower. I'm not a big fan of these... that said, if prices ever do again approach it's curve I would probably be VERY bullish too by then as the residential average would be below $200,000, so I guess they can't be so bad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091211-3s.jpg" alt="Bubble Phases" title="Bubble Phases" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd likely be one of the few that are bullish, as we'd be well into the "despair" phase of the bubble model. Such is the plight of herd mentality... just as it can feed a bubble, it was destroy it, and then some.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me personally, I don't think I'd even start looking until the average returns to around $250,000... and probably not think about letting the cheque book see the light of day until it was around $230,000. Of course this is all dependent on interest rates, if they stay at current levels for years on end obviously prices would settle higher... conversely if rates went much above 7% I'd expect prices to settle lower.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that's just me and my take of where the fundamentals point, and as Keynes said, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent... though just because it can doesn't mean will, and after witnessing the clusterfuck his minions have delivered us to currently, I'll take my chances.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-3378563566391697467?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/pIiXbZw9dbU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/3378563566391697467/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/historical-prices-and-inflation.html#comment-form" title="10 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/3378563566391697467?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/3378563566391697467?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/pIiXbZw9dbU/historical-prices-and-inflation.html" title="Historical Prices and Inflation - Revisited" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">10</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/historical-prices-and-inflation.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Dk4GQ389fSp7ImA9WxBTFUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-7966137588765214368</id><published>2009-12-08T05:50:00.009-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-11T00:02:02.165-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-11T00:02:02.165-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="United States" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Japan" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="HPI" /><title>Big in Japan II: Electric Boogaloo</title><content type="html">Greetings brothers from other mothers. Today we're going to do a big of a supplement/appendix to &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/big-in-japan.html"&gt;Saturday's post&lt;/a&gt; on Japan... this time around we'll do some comparing and contrasting of &lt;a href="http://www.reinet.or.jp/en/data.html"&gt;their HPI&lt;/a&gt; with &lt;a href="http://housepriceindex.ca/"&gt;ours&lt;/a&gt;, as well as the &lt;a href="http://www.standardandpoors.com/indices/sp-case-shiller-home-price-indices/en/us/?indexId=spusa-cashpidff--p-us----"&gt;Case-Shiller&lt;/a&gt; index from the States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-5s.jpg" alt="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI" title="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here they are charted out without any adjustments. Kind of a mess, we have different index points, some peaking before the index point, others after, yadda yadda yadda, &lt;strike&gt;I'm really tired today&lt;/strike&gt; it's a mess. So, lets do some adjustments and see how it looks then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-1s.jpg" alt="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI" title="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Alright, since we're obviously concerned with "bubbles", lets find the respective peaks and count back six years. Why six years, well, it would have been ten, but the Canadian data doesn't go back that far, nor does the U.S. Composite 20... so basically I went back as far as the shortest data set allowed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can see by far the biggest bubble was in the Japanese major city index, followed by the U.S. composite 10, then U.S. composite 20, the Canadian composite 6, and then finally the Japanese nationwide. Interesting to note that Japan bookends the high and low ends. Also since their asset bubble was back in '91 they have the long tail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, as far as the Canadian figure goes our bubble is bigger then Japan's (as a whole), but well below the U.S. bubble. It is worth noting the Canadian cities peaking has been a little more spaced out then our American counterparts, and in light of the recent national flurry we're in all likelihood going to set a new peak as the fall numbers become available... so the Canadian curve would thus need to be reset in that event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, it's unlikely the Canadian peak will get anywhere near the U.S. figures... unless we just go completely off the rails for another year or more (particularly Toronto). After the last eight months though, never say never, but it would take a whole lot to pull us up to that level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-2s.jpg" alt="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - Decline From Peak" title="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - Decline From Peak" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;These are the respective decline from peak figures. Again, Japan's extends far beyond everyone else. Interestingly, we can see the two U.S. composites have declined at eerily similar patterns despite having varied peaks as we noted in the prior graph.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can also see that the current ultra-low interest rate environment has not just spurred prices in Canada, but also the U.S. as their curves too have suddenly made a stark move up. Difference being that south of the border they're still down 30% from peak even after this upswing... whereas in Canada we were still early in our decline, thus much of those losses have been erased and we're now approaching a new high (which would reset this graph).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-3s.jpg" alt="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI - Cities" title="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - HPI - Cities" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;National numbers only do you so much good as real estate is more a local creature and can vary widely from region to region. So lets take a look at some city numbers. As I mentioned in the prior article, I have been unable to obtain any city specific numbers for Japan, but we'll compare some major cities in North America to what happened to the Japan major city composite. At least that will give us a general idea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Canada I picked Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto as they are our most hotly discussed real estate markets. To make them easier to pick out, I made them the dashed lines. For the U.S. I selected Miami, Phoenix and Seattle. Miami having the biggest bubble (as per Case-Shiller), Phoenix was about 7th out of the 20 but much discussed, and Seattle was about in the middle of the pack.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see here the Miami curve is actually quite close to the Japanese major market composite. Down a little, we see Calgary close to Phoenix, with Vancouver not far behind. Down a little more we have Seattle, then finally Toronto's curve looking downright flat compared to the others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately for us in Edmonton we aren't included in the Canadian HPI. But if we want to get an idea of where we might be on this scale lets start by comparing Calgary resale stats from this period with their HPI... indexing Calgary's various resale averages/medians using the same method (index point six years prior to peak) we find peaks in the 225-to-240 range. Knowing their HPI topped out at 226, seems we're right in the range, near the low end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now looking at Edmonton's resale averages/medians, we come out with peaks in the 260-to-280 range... the low end of which would put us right up at the top with Miami. The same relationship between resale and HPI holds for both Vancouver and Toronto as well. So, take that for what it's worth, but it would suggest that the bubble we experienced in Edmonton could very well be right up there with the worst in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091208-4s.jpg" alt="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - Decline From Peak - Cities" title="Japan/Canada/U.S.A. - Decline From Peak - Cities" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Finally here is the decline from peak for all the cities (the Japanese one is cut off in this and the prior graph, but the full plot is available in the earlier graphs). Pretty serious stuff in Phoenix and Miami, with 54.5% and 48.5% respective declines from peak. Even Seattle which had a much more moderate bubble has fallen over 20%, well beyond the &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/04/what-is-bust.html"&gt;classification for a "bust."&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can certainly see the effects of the interest rate plunge on both sides of the border (except it seems in Seattle). Even in the U.S. markets where residential real estate had been written off for dead prices have jumped significantly in recent month. It'll be interesting to see how the next couple years play out, as rates stay low for now and what will happen when rates start jumping. But only time will tell.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7966137588765214368?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/WAvGT2HU5t4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/7966137588765214368/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/big-in-japan-ii-electric-boogaloo.html#comment-form" title="6 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7966137588765214368?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7966137588765214368?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/WAvGT2HU5t4/big-in-japan-ii-electric-boogaloo.html" title="Big in Japan II: Electric Boogaloo" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">6</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/big-in-japan-ii-electric-boogaloo.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CEQHRHY4eCp7ImA9WxBTE0Q.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-4739356378822427888</id><published>2009-12-05T06:03:00.012-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-09T13:58:55.830-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-09T13:58:55.830-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Japan" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="HPI" /><title>Big in Japan</title><content type="html">As the economic mess continues to unfold, there is no lack of bewilderment about what's going to happen and when. There are people calling for everything from runaway inflation to runaway deflation... all the while no one is anymore sure what is coming next year, then they are about tomorrow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In our little niche of the blogosphere here we discussing housing bubble here in Alberta, and through much of Canada for that matter, those bullish on the market all have their theories as to why they feel prices are sustainable. The arguments largely focus on either inflation jacking up incomes, or interest rates staying at their current record lows for years on end. Some even cite a combination of the two, apparently blissfully unaware that they are mutually exclusive&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the case of the low interest rates scenario, they point to Japan as an example. So, today we're going to take a look at just what happened in Japan. Then in subsequent days we'll do some further comparisons with what happened in Japan, to what happened in the US, to what's happening here. Even so, brace yourself, it's gonna be a big'uns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-1s.jpg" alt="Interest Rates" title="Interest Rates" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;First up, interest rates. The best I could find was their prime rate, which is as good as any, so we'll use that. Also, just for reference purposes, I included the prime rate we Canucks have witnessed. We can that their interest rates have been lower than ours going right back to the late 70's. But what we really want to focus on is the period from the mid 90's through now, as it was in the mid 90's that the Bank of Japan intentionally started to set their rate VERY low (in an effort to attract the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_trade#Currency"&gt;carry trade)&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Japan first dipped below the 3% mark in July of '95, and after a couple years bouncing around the mark, they haven't eclipsed it again since May of '97. Over this period the Canadian prime rate have been averaging in the 5-6% range, while in Japan it's been more like 2%... coincidently, a range that we now find ourselves currently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're not really here to discuss what the future holds for interest rates (though it seems the current consensus is that they'll eventually go up, but for now they will remain for at least another six months). The question we're looking at is in the even these rates stay long term, will that alone support a real estate bubble? Beyond that,  what kind of effects would it have on the greater economy?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this regard, Japan is actually a great case study. You see, in the early 90's Japan was right at the acme of their own massive asset bubble... of which real estate was right at the forefront.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-6.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-6s.jpg" alt="Japan Housing Bubble" title="Japan Housing Bubble" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is a look at the &lt;a href="http://www.reinet.or.jp/en/data.html"&gt;National Wooden House Market Value Index&lt;/a&gt;, quite a mouthful. It's index point (=100) is 2000, which is actually the same as the &lt;a href="http://www.standardandpoors.com/indices/sp-case-shiller-home-price-indices/en/us/?indexId=spusa-cashpidff--p-us----"&gt;Case-Shiller&lt;/a&gt; index in the U.S.... but in the case of Japan, by then their bubble was in their rear-view mirror. Regardless, we'll get into all that business sometime next week, for today we're focusing on Japan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we can see a very distinct bubble pattern, particularly in their index of the six major cities (Tokyo, Yokohama, Nagoya, Kyoto, Osaka, and Kobe). They don't break them down into individual cities, or at least I couldn't find any data on individual cities, but I have a hunch that's probably got more to do with my non-existent understanding of the Japanese language then anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At their peak in 1991, the national mark was 126.1, and major cities mark was 223.4. As of their most recent publishing in September the national index was 68.8, and 6-major-cities index stood at 79.3. Which would equal a national 45% decline from peak, and 65% for the major-cities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This also goes to show that even with ultra-low interest rates, it's done nothing to stop the decline... they may have slowed it, but that's all. Prices are back to where they were in the early 80's. Other then a little bounce in the major-cities recently, that has largely since dissipated, it's been a very smooth trip down. So yeah, ouch, very ouch. But believe it or not, that's a mere tickle compared to what happened in commercial real estate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-7.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-7s.jpg" alt="Japan Commercial Real Estate Bubble" title="Japan Commercial Real Estate Bubble" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Looks very similar, but note the scaling... this mofo topped out at almost 520 in the major centres! The national decline from peak is currently sitting at 74%, and the major cities at 85%.  That's approaching &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania"&gt;Tulip Mania&lt;/a&gt; types numbers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-9.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-9s.jpg" alt="Japan Inflation and Interest Rates" title="Japan Inflation and Interest Rates" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now lets take a look at why high inflation and low interest rates are mutually exclusive. Other then just intuitively, as if inflation is high, generally everything is earning a high return and thus to attract money even low risk investments like bonds would need to offer higher returns, and as we all know, higher returns on bonds = higher interest rates. Conversely, if inflation is low, nothing is really offering a return, thus interest rates can be very low.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the graph above we can see how inflation and interest rates have played out in Japan. Here we note that as interest rates plummeted, inflation flat-lined. ¥1,000 will pretty much buy you just as much today as it would in 1992.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-2s.jpg" alt="Japan and Canada - Inflation" title="Japan and Canada - Inflation" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now lets compare the Japanese situation to ours here in Canada, where inflation has been more typical. Here, to buy the same amount of stuff $1,000 would get you in 1992, would cost you roughly $1375 today. That's basically how inflation works, over time the purchasing power of a dollar erodes , in the case presented by 38% over the last 17 years... whereas the Japanese experience has effectively been 0% inflation, purchasing power is exactly the same today was it was in '92.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-3s.jpg" alt="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Nominal" title="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Nominal" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Therein lies the rub of a sustained period of low interest rates... there is no inflation, everything tends to stagnate. Including as we see in the above graph, incomes. Here we can see in nominal terms that Canadian incomes have steadily increased all along, whereas in Japan where they grew through the early 90's, but since incomes have actually declined slightly since they changed monetary policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm typically a stickler for using medians rather than averages for items such as incomes, but I could only find averages for Japan. Thus, I figured I'd better use them for Canada just to be consistent. So, in case you were wondering, that's why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-4s.jpg" alt="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Inflation Adjusted" title="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Inflation Adjusted" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here is the same data, only adjusted for inflation. We note the Canadian incomes have been much more flat historically once inflation is considered. What's more interesting is the Japanese numbers, who had a rise, plateau, and then slide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the 90's on we'd expect to see that pattern as we know inflation has been effectively non-existent, and thus it should replicate the pattern from the nominal graph. That we expected, but what's compelling is seeing the very noticeable gains in real incomes between 1970 and 1991. In 1970 the average family in Japan was making roughly ¥4.26M... by 1991 they were making over ¥6.86M.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It warrants repeating, these are in inflation adjusted dollars, not just nominal, that's a 61% improvement in incomes over and above increases in the cost of living. That's very significant, and with that kind of improved purchasing power you could see why there would be for the potential of a real estate bubble. Compare that to Canada, where we're currently at our highest point in history, but even that is only up about 17% over the last 30 years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-5s.jpg" alt="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Inflation Adjusted" title="Japan and Canada - Incomes - Inflation Adjusted" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Did this graph just for kicks, it's inflation adjusted earnings for both nations again, but this time converted into Canadian dollars (&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091026-3.jpg"&gt;historical exchange rate&lt;/a&gt;). Shows the power of exchange rate fluctuations, as we know nominally in Japan incomes really haven't changed significantly in the last 20 years.. but in Canadian dollars they've been up and down, anywhere from $54,000 to $97,000. Interesting? Perhaps. Useful? Not so much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-8.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091205-8s.jpg" alt="Japan - Various Indexes" title="Japan - Various Indexes" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And this mercifully brings us to our final graph for today (I told you it was going to be a big'uns, and just be thankful I condensed or eliminated a bunch more). This is various indexes available from the Japanese statistics bureau, except the income index, which I devised from the data we discussed earlier (all index points have been set to 2000 for comparative purposes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The two that jump out first are obviously the residential real estate ones, the rest are much more gentle. The others are income, inflation and rental indexes. Income and inflation again we discussed earlier, so we'll just take a sec and talk about the rental index (yellow line).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can see it's been very smooth over time, and has been virtually flat since '97. As we know from experience here, rents are stickier then real estate prices, as such move much slower. It's interesting that there really didn't seem to be any short term surge at all when the bubble occurred, nor did it dip as prices declined. Seems rents just found a long term equilibrium and eventually settled into it. Even as inflation halted, rents continued to rise through much of the 90's, then finally levelled off. Even since then as real estate prices have continued to slide, rental prices have remained stagnant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I just wanted to include that graph to display the interplay of all the factors and give you an idea of the overall picture of what happened. I think I've covered all the bases I wanted to  touch on today, so I'll try to wrap this up. What we should take away from this is that when the fundamentals get way out of whack, there is no easy way out. Even manipulating interest rates long term in the wake of an asset bubble, has done nothing to keep asset prices from declining.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Japans spend and borrow response to the aftermath of their asset bubble has done nothing to prop up those assets, but has left the nation &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8a03a61e-c585-11de-9b3b-00144feab49a.html"&gt;crippled with debt&lt;/a&gt;, and on the brink of economic collapse. Now in the wake of asset bubbles bursting world wide, much of the developed world is now copying the very policies that got the Japanese in trouble. One can only hope that they truly are only going to be temporary, because as we've seen, they're not only ineffective, they're destructive.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-4739356378822427888?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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After a rather big drop last month, the single-family-homes rebounded a bit, and that the held the residential average... but condo's continued to drop, hard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-1s.jpg" alt="Prices" title="Prices" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Condo's were down another 2.5% in November, and this after a they dropped 3.2% the month before. As we've discussed here ad nauseam, condo's are by the far weakest sector because how severely overbuilt they are (in regards to supply)... but even so, an almost 6% drop in two months is massive, especially when the rest of the market is more-or-less holding. Thus don't be too surprised if there is a bounce in condo prices in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unless SFH's suddenly start falling quickly too, I'd expect condos to at least hold if not rebound a bit in the short term. In the long term I still expect condo prices to fall WAY below where they are today, I just find this recent decoupling odd, and likely an aberration given the current interest rate environment. But who knows, Edmonton has thus far been the forerunner of the Alberta (and now, national) boom-bust cycle, so maybe it's the beginning of the next chapter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-2s.jpg" alt="Inventory and Sales" title="Inventory and Sales" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Sales are starting to slow and inventories dropping, as typically happens this time of year. They both typically bottom out in December (we see mass delistings the last week of December), then being to ramp up as winter progresses. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091203-3s.jpg" alt="Absorption Rate" title="Absorption Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Which brings us to absorption rate, which jumped about half a point to 4.14 in November. As we can see from the graph we're in more of a normal range for this time of year, but I would be wary as we're coming off another extended period of high sales. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In times like that, people tend to hold off from listing for whatever reason (and record low interest rates certainly wouldn't be rushing them either). Then when the market turns they rush them to market and you end up with a flood of inventory, as we witnessed just two years ago. The double whammy of a cooling market and rising interest rates could very well lead to another explosion of listings, so be aware. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, and as always, here are the hard numbers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sales = 1,261&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = +3.1% (+38)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +41.5% (+370)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -17.9% (-274)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Active Listings = 5,226&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = -39.7% (-3,441)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = -34.8% (-2,789)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -5.5% (-304)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Median= $350,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -12.5% (-$50,000)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +3.9% (+$13,000)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +2.2% (+$7,500)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = +1.2% (+$4,000)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Residential Average = $318,482&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -10.2% (-$36,236)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = -0.0% (-106)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = -2.4% (-$7,850)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -0.2% (-$487)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Average = $368,018&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -13.6% (-$58,010)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +1.5% (+$5,261)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +0.1% (+$346)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = +1.2% (-$4,324)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Condo Average = $231,684&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -14.8% (-$40,224)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +0.1% (+$153)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = -5.3% (-$13,050)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -2.5% (-$5,917)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-9124506829040019041?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/XTdysRDOM2M" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/9124506829040019041/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/november-numbers-are-in.html#comment-form" title="8 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/9124506829040019041?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/9124506829040019041?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/XTdysRDOM2M/november-numbers-are-in.html" title="November numbers are in.." /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">8</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/november-numbers-are-in.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkYMSXo6fip7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-1108583878258757085</id><published>2009-12-01T00:01:00.007-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:23:08.416-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:23:08.416-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="United States" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Personal Finances" /><title>Personal Saving Rates</title><content type="html">Greetings all, let me be the first to welcome you to December! Most of the country has likely recovered by now from the Grand National Drunk and all the football type festivities... except maybe in Saskatchewan, where they are probably still drinking to forget, as images of orange flags and the words "Too Many Men" join images of &lt;a href="http://archives.cbc.ca/500f.asp?id=1-41-381-2201"&gt;Tony Gabriel&lt;/a&gt; in forever haunting the wheaties!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13th man indeed! Mua ha ha... schadenfreud is such sweet splendor!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Figured I'd knock out a quick and dirty entry tonight. Cause, well, what can I say, I like my bloggin' like I like my ladies. Yeah, alright, that was low hanging... but what do you want? It's late and I'm tired. Anyway, enough of that, lets get down to business and take a quick look at personal saving rates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091201-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091201-1s.jpg" alt="Personal Saving Rates - US and Canada" title="Personal Saving Rates - US and Canada" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Statcan released their latest &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/091130/dq091130a-eng.htm"&gt;GDP and economic accounts&lt;/a&gt; data today, or I guess technically yesterday. Regardless, GDP gets most of the press, but one of the figures that also gets some attention is the personal saving rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We've heard a lot about how Canadians are more prudent, ipso facto, better savers then our neighbours to the south, so I also dug up some numbers from the &lt;a href="http://www.bea.gov/"&gt;U.S. Department of Commerce/Bureau of Economic Analysis&lt;/a&gt; and thought I'd do a comparison between our fine nations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From a quick look at the graph it would seem that distinction was very much valid from the mid-70's to the mid-90's, but not so much since. In fact, for the last twelve years or so, we've been eerily similar... bouncing around the 3% mark on average, hovering around all time lows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Canadian rate had never dipped below 5% until 1997, but since 1999 our times above it have been few and far between. The U.S. being in much the same boat. Seems that as interest rates have been steadily declining, people have been increasing their spending on both sides of the 49th. Conversely, in the period of rising interest rates (up to 1982) people saved more and more as rates climbed in Canada, while in the U.S. they kind of plateaued around 10%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's it all mean? It's hard to say exactly. But before we feel too cavalier about our position in the financial world, we should realize as far as that goes we're just resting on our laurels and in fact have left ourselves just as exposed to potential credit problems as they have in the United States... particularly the younger generation(s).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-1108583878258757085?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/S0DVjffawnI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/1108583878258757085/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/personal-saving-rates.html#comment-form" title="9 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/1108583878258757085?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/1108583878258757085?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/S0DVjffawnI/personal-saving-rates.html" title="Personal Saving Rates" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">9</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/12/personal-saving-rates.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkYDRn4_eyp7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-8540003820850007592</id><published>2009-11-26T11:59:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:22:57.043-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:22:57.043-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Alberta" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><title>Survey of Employment, Payroll and Hours</title><content type="html">This morning Statcan came out with their latest &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/091126/dq091126a-eng.htm"&gt;Survey of Employment, Payroll and Hours&lt;/a&gt; (SEPH for short). It's sort of a cousin to the Labour Force Survey (LFS), but doesn't get as much press. Among other things, the LFS has the much heralded unemployment numbers, and it also comes out mere days after the close of the month it measures, whereas the SEPH data comes out almost two months after the fact. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unlike the LFS which is a survey of the employee, the SEPH is a survey of the employer. It includes a measure of average weekly earnings, and also of the number of people employed by corporate entities. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Particularly of late some have scoffed at the LFS unemployment figures as they believe its skewed by people who lost their jobs and are effectively unemployed, but instead list themselves as self-employed. So, lets do a comparison of the LFS and SEPH job loss numbers to get an idea of how much truth is behind those accusations. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-1s.jpg" alt="Job losses" title="Job losses" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Employment in both measures topped out last October, so this is a measure of how many jobs were lost since then (note, this makes no distinction between full-time and part-time, which in the LFS we've seen a large shift from the former to the latter over this period). As we can see, the numbers were fairly close through about February, and the SEPH losses were actually less through January... but since then we've seen a noticable decoupling, and as of September there have been roughly 40,000 more jobs lost in the SEPH then in the LFS. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know that historically the SEPH and LFS employment figures largely track together (&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-3.jpg"&gt;click for chart&lt;/a&gt;). This would seem to lend some credence to those questioning the unemployment figures... and just intuitively, massive recessions aren't the best time for a huge influx of people to go into business for themselves. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As an aside, judging from that big jump in LFS losses in October that could spell a pretty big jump due for the SEPH losses for that month, but we won't know that for sure until this time next month. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-2s.jpg" alt="Average Weekly Earnings" title="Average Weekly Earnings" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As mentioned earlier, the SEPH also includes a measure of average weekly earnings, so here that is. I also took the liberty of including the inflation adjusted figures for comparisons purposes, cause, well, that's just how I roll!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When adjusted for inflation, we notice that the line was fairly flat up until about 2003/2004 (other then a mysteriously sudden shift up in 1996, a change in methodology perhaps?). Since then we've seen some real growth in earnings, going from about $800, to as high as $975. That's roughly a 22% gain in a relatively short time, and particularly impressive compared to the twenty years leading up to it... conversely though, this is not as explosive of growth as some people have led us to believe. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also notice that these two have started to track down. Unlike the number of jobs which peaked last October, earnings didn't top out until February ($965 nominal, $973 real). They've been kind of bouncing since, but generally downward since, bottoming out in August at $934 (nominal and real), but rebounding in September up to $959 (nominal and real). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bearing in mind these numbers are subject to revision for about six months, and &lt;u&gt;will&lt;/u&gt; change to a degree. Regardless, earnings wise we're slightly higher then a year ago, roughly 2% higher. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that's where the problem is at looking purely at the earnings figure is that it makes no mention that while up 2%, there are over 5% fewer people earning it... and beyond that, it makes no mention that the population and labour force have continued growing over, which actually only further compounds the problem. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091126-4s.jpg" alt="Estimated Earnings" title="Estimated Earnings" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;So, in my infinite &lt;strike&gt;boredom&lt;/strike&gt; wisdom, I frankensteined my own little measure. This is the average weekly earnings multiplied by the payroll employees, then divided by the labour force size from the LFS (and multiplied by 52, to give you an annual figure, as to not be confused with the earlier weekly data). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this gives you a better idea of the gravity of the downturn, as it accounts for earnings, employment and the labour force... which when those items are isolated, make it hard to get an idea of the big picture. That said, this measure shouldn't be taken as gospel of anything as some included in the denominator are not included in the numerator, but assuming everything remains proportional (at least in the short term), this is good for comparison purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By this measure (looking at inflation adjusted figures), it shows moderate growth in earnings through 2004, then of accelerated growth through late 2008, and then a sharp drop off... roughly 10% peak-to-trough (7% peak-to-current). We're back to about where we were in early 2007. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, take it for what it's worth. Hopefully that gave you something to chew on for a Thursday. If you have any questions or comments, fire away.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-8540003820850007592?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Thus, today I present my not-humble-what-so-ever take on what the underlying causes of the housing bubble were. So, without further ado, on with the show...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Consumer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That right fellow babies (channelling my inner Johnny Fever), you and me. Well, perhaps not you and me specifically, more in a general sense, you know what I mean.  Ultimately the buck stops with all of us... and it's going too, and in more ways then one when you figure in our role as taxpayers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We do dumb things, myself included, just ask my dad, he could reel off chapter and verse most of the first 18 years of my life... and probably more then a few of the ones since. We're prone to herd mentality, susceptible to greed, lust, a need for social acceptance, status... not to mention the most terrifying force known to man, the nagging significant other!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Shudder*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Houses are a deeply emotional purchase for most. They're not just shelter, they're "home," they're family, they're status, and they most often the largest purchase we make in our lives, and can take most of your working life to pay for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, first and foremost, the consumer must bear the stain of this bubble, and certainly will... we signed the papers, we dug the hole, now we have to climb out of it. There were other factors though, and now we'll discuss some of the usual suspects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Realtors&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah yes, the brand name masquerading &lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; as a "profession." They're an easy, and seemingly popular, target for scorn. Which they largely bring it on themselves... but are they responsible for the bubble? Nah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Beneficiaries of it? Absolutely. Contributed? In some ways, perhaps. But no one had a gun held to anyones head when they were making offers, and I'd hanker to guess that even if the agent told the prospective buyer it was a bad idea, that buyer would just find another agent that would sing the tune they liked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bottom line, these guys are in commission sales. So, if you're expecting any message out of their associations/boards/agencies other then "buy", you're only fooling yourself. Those groups only exist to further the interests of their membership, their membership wants transactions. You do the math.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ethics of these obviously self-interested parties parading themselves as experts is questionable at best. Regardless, the public must take responsibility for their own actions, and consider the source. Think about it, would you expect the CEO of Ford to say anything other than people should buy vehicles? Ultimately it's all marketing, and should be viewed as such. So, while a case could be made for them contributing to the bubble... they had little if anything to do with the underlying causes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Brokers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another group that certainly benefited, but really didn't have anything to do with the causes. These guys are just middle men, they grease the wheels and take their cut. If anything these guys probably behaved themselves the best out of all those discussed in this article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Bank of Canada&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Carney and Co. are another popular target, particularly of late. They've even kicked off the finger pointing, conveniently singling out lenders (convenient because if they point it anywhere else it'd be directly or indirectly at their overlord(s) in parliament). Ultimately though, interest rates are largely determined by the market, and that is well beyond their control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What influence they do have, is largely ceremonial. For the most part they just follow the United States lead, as to not upset the apple cart and cause undue fluctuations to the exchange rates... which would wreak havoc on that rice paper castle that is this so called "recovery."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as far as our bubble here in Alberta, we arrived long before the current ultra-low rate environment came around. Sure it added another big season of sales which effectively  just dug us a bit deeper, particularly in regards to defaults, but we were plenty deep already... we just have a bit more company now on the domestic front.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Banks/Lenders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're getting warmer, and typically this is a group that should take heat for situations like this... but they would usually also have some skin in the game. And that is where the true root begins to expose itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Historically market forces keep the lender honest. On mortgages they make their money on the margin, they get access to capital at one rate then lend it out at a slightly higher one. In return for this payout, they bear the risk of the borrower defaulting... and as that is typically a timely and costly occurrence, that is why they do such thorough vetting of the borrower to ensure they are credit worthy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In modern times we've seen a move away from this model though, particularly when it comes to high ratio loans. In Canada, we've seen the establishment of the CMHC. They basically insure all high ratio loans (those with less than 20% downpayments), this takes the risk largely away from the lenders, who can then lend to everyone at the same rate, above which the borrower pays a risk premium indirectly to the CMHC (who is then on the hook for any deficits in the event of default).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This situation presents a moral hazard then to the lender, particularly recently as prices have rocketed up and downpayments have dwindled. They are now still largely in charge of vetting the borrower, but as they now bear no risk for default... thus, it's entirely in their interest to lend as much money as possible, to as many people as possible. As long as the CMHC signs off on the borrower, the lenders have no skin in the game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They can just sit back, collect their margin with no worry if rates shoot up or the market goes to seed and the borrower defaults, cause the CMHC has them covered. It's something of a licence to print money, and all the lenders know it. That's not to paint lenders as the bad guys though... they're playing by the rules, and exhibiting behaviour entirely predictable given the circumstances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;CMHC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that brings us to the CMHC... we're really starting to heat up now. These guys will probably be a real lightning rod for years to come. Though again, they were not so much the generals as they were the soldiers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their actions were what really fuelled the bubble here, which is now largely nation wide. It was the stripping of lending standards that turned a hot but sustainable real estate market in Alberta in '05, into a overheated time bomb from '06 on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They pretty much threw gas on the fire. At the begging of '06 a borrower had to have at least 10% down and had a maximum amortization of 25 years... then it became 30 years... then months later 35 years with 0 down... then finally before year end, 40 year amortizations... and just in case that wasn't enough, you could go as long as ten years without putting a penny towards principle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bar was lowered, and lowered and lowered some more, and Albertans came rushing in with cash in hand... well, maybe not so much with cash in hand, but I digress. The floodgates were thrust open to a whole new group of buyers that otherwise would not have qualified, and even for those that would have it made available much larger sums.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such rapid and extreme lowering of lending standards made the conditions rife for a bubble, and one formed. But ultimately it was not the CMHC that made those directives, they merely did the bidding. You see, the rest of the true blame lies with the...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Federal Government&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can hear the wailing already in ever so Tory blue Alberta, but I'm really not a partisan nor have an axe to grind. If you held a gun to my head and made me pick between the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP... I'd say pull the trigger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm more a moderate libertarian than anything, not to be confused with the assholes of epic proportion that largely make up the ever so prevalent Randian variety (but those with borderline personality disorder need something to read I guess). I'm no more a trusting of big business then of big government, but in the presence of the former I acknowledge a need for the latter. But enough about me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can't hang it all on Harper and Co. though, there were moves originated all the way back to Chrétien that helped pave the way, chiefly among them removing the price ceiling. But it was mainly Stevie-boy who blew the doors of the barn with all those moves discussed in the prior section.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then when the air started to leak out, down came the directive to approve "high-risk" borrowers in greatly increased numbers, which really fuelled the '09 surge. If things had stayed at 10/25, while something of a bubble may still have been possible, it would have been but a small fraction of what became.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To their credit, they apparently saw the error of their ways to a degree, and did away with the 0/40's, now the best you can do is 5/35... but most banks will lend you the 5% anyway, so effectively 0/35.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course, they are also a minority government, which means they couldn't have done this without some help (or at least tacit approval from the others). It was a rather shrewd political move by Harper actually... he knows the masses are happy with the illusion of wealth created with rising home prices, and figured that could be enough to get him that precious majority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if the other parties were smart enough to recognize the potential dangers of a housing bubble, telling the populous that they're not as rich as they think would not be greeted warmly. The opposition parties don't want to get blamed for popping the bubble, and for the same reason the Conservatives don't want to apply the brakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, we continue our trip down the primrose path blissfully believing "it's different here," even after having ring-side seats to see the United States blaze the trail of libertine indulgence. We just dig ourselves deeper  and deeper, until the inevitable...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091121-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091121-2.jpg" alt="POP" title="POP" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-8029974437168998040?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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The Alberta rate now stands at 0.67%, drawing ever closer to our record high (0.69%), up from 0.34% a year earlier and 0.65% in August.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nationally the rate held at 0.43%, and Manitoba swapped places with Saskatchewan for the lowest rate in the country (0.26% and 0.28% respectively). Alberta continues to widen it's lead at the opposite end of the spectrum, while the Atlantic provinces are next worst at 0.49%. B.C. and Quebec were both up a tick at 0.37% and 0.36% respectively, and finally Ontario held at 0.43%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-1s.jpg" alt="Mortgage Arrears - Alberta" title="Mortgage Arrears - Alberta" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In an effort to freshen things up, I did some digging and found some comparable numbers from the US. These are from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (I'm sure you've heard those names, they operate something like the CMHC does in Canada for those unfamiliar with them).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These graphs are of their "serious delinquencies," which are those that fall three months or more behind on their mortgages... so, virtually exactly the same as our much discussed "mortgage arrears." They have three different figures respectively, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_enhancement"&gt;credit enhanced&lt;/a&gt;, non-credit enhanced, and total.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-2s.jpg" alt="Freddie Mac - Serious Delinquencies" title="Freddie Mac - Serious Delinquencies" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-3s.jpg" alt="Fannie Mae - Serious Delinquencies" title="Fannie Mae - Serious Delinquencies" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Afraid I'm not intimately familiar with exactly where the line is between credit enhanced and non, or how these relates to the CBA figures (I think we can safely assume from the data 'credit enhanced' are likely those with less then stellar credit ratings) ... so for our comparisons between countries I'll include both the total and non-credit enhanced figures and let you interpret the data for yourself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-4s.jpg" alt="Mortgage Arrears - US vs Canada" title="Mortgage Arrears - US vs Canada" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here we have them all charted together. We can see that traditionally non-credit enhanced US figures are very close to those we enjoy here in Canada and Alberta, while the total figures track about a half point higher (at least until their bubble burst). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the national numbers are only starting to creep up here in Canada, the Alberta figures are tracking a pattern quite similar to those in the US 18 months earlier. Now, that doesn't mean we'll end up as bad off as they are down south, but it's worth noting the similarities... so it's not out of the question that we could be on the same road. It was also around that time that phrases like "&lt;a href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=foreclosure+epidemic&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;sa=G&amp;tbo=1&amp;tbs=tl:1,tll:2000,tlh:2009&amp;ei=V0wDS472EM-mnQetkKF4&amp;oi=timeline_histogram_main&amp;ct=timeline-histogram&amp;cd=8&amp;ved=0CBAQyQEoCA"&gt;foreclosure epidemic&lt;/a&gt;" really started to make the rounds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bear in mind, these are national numbers in the US, and foreclosure problems vary greatly amongst regions/states. I'm going to try to find some state numbers for future months... but looking at the magnitude of the change in the US as a whole leaves little doubt that foreclosures have become a national issue. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091118-5s.jpg" alt="Mortgage Arrears - US vs Canada" title="Mortgage Arrears - US vs Canada" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Fannie and Freddie have changed what they've reported periodically, so the best I could piece together for a longer term comparison is their total figures. It's interesting to note here their total delinquency figures were quite close to the Canadian equivalent up until '01-'02. Why and how it's difficult to say, could be anything from a change in lending practises, to a change in methodology. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, what I think we should take away from this is that before we get cocky about how low our level is currently in comparison, remember, it was not even two years ago they were right where we are now... and we've had a ringside seat to witness that slippery slope.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-5384476414429359543?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Unfortunately they seem to change just how and what they include in their reports when it comes to the non-financial statement stuff, but I've been able to scrape together some good data.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those unfamiliar with them, they are a major player in rental market here in Alberta as well as Saskatchewan, and are expanding into other markets throughout the country. According to their reports, they have just over 20% market share in Edmonton, and just under 15% in Calgary. Anywho, on with the show, lets start with vacancy rates...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-1s.jpg" alt="Vacancy Rates" title="Vacancy Rates" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here is a look at Boardwalks internal data on Edmonton and Calgary (currently they have 12,144 units in Edmonton, and 5,227 in Calgary). It's kind of erratic, but we can see that the rate dipped well below their long-term averages in both cities from mid-'05 through the end of '07.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then though they've generally been above the averages, particularly in Edmonton, but as of their most recent reporting (3Q-'09) they have returned to the mean. It would be interesting to compare these figures to the CMHC numbers, but that will have to wait. Maybe in a coming week, or maybe when the CMHC report comes out next month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-5s.jpg" alt="Boardwalk - Alberta Rents" title="Boardwalk - Alberta Rents" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now lets add rents to the mix. Unfortunately they've only reported market specific rents going back to about 2006, but beggars can't be choosers I guess. I believe 'Market Rent' is their average advertised rents for new move-in's, while 'Occupied Rent' is the average of exactly what their tenants are paying. The occupied rent would be far more sticky, as leases are grandfathered in, and increases/decreases are phased in over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems the two figures were very close through the end of '05, then market rent started to take off in a big way and didn't top out until mid-'07... no coincidence, that's the exact same timeline and behaviour the resale market exhibited during that period. Occupied rents continued growing through mid-'08, as the company were phasing in increases on those that previously enjoyed lower lease rents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Market and occupied rents met again in late-'08, and have both been tracking down since. Just as it rose faster, market rents are falling faster, now down $218 or 17% from peak. Occupied rents conversely down $30, or 2.6% from its peak. So, anyone living in a Boardwalk community might want to drop down to the office and get yourself a little reduction... if you've been a good tenant, you can probably leverage yourself a deal a fair bit better then even advertised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-2s.jpg" alt="Boardwalk - Edmonton" title="Boardwalk - Edmonton" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now we'll look at Edmonton and Calgary individually, lets start with the capital. Remembering their long-term average vacancy for Edmonton was 4.56%, we can see during the period where vacancies were below that mark, market rents were rising rather quickly... then when vacancies jumped above it, just as suddenly, rents started dropping. The rents have a pattern very similar to that of Alberta as a whole as we looked at earlier. That's no surprise though as Edmonton accounts for over 60% of their provincial portfolio.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-3s.jpg" alt="Boardwalk - Calgary" title="Boardwalk - Calgary" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now onto Cowtown. This graph looks a little different, as it seems Calgary's vacancy rates were lower earlier, and we kind of missed their big decoupling of market and occupied rents. Their market rents kind of plateaued even though vacancies were still well below their long-term average of 4.85%. Perhaps they hit a ceiling, or maybe they could have went higher.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, once the long-term average was broached, rents started to fall... then vacancies fell back below and rents went back up... then vacancies went back up and rents resumed falling. That long-term average might be an important figure in light of such negative correlation with rents, though vacancies have again dropped below that mark and yet rents are still trending down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It'll be interesting to compare these figures with those in the CMHC release next month, as it seems, at least in the case of Boardwalk, things have stabilized. Vacancies are back in their normal range, but rents are still going down slowly but steadily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091116-4s.jpg" alt="Boardwalk - Cycle" title="Boardwalk - Cycle" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Just wanted to throw this in cause it's an interesting little graphic they like to include in all their reports. This one is from their most recent report, released last Friday. It's quite intuitive when you think about it, and it's interesting to note the position of the markets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to their little graph it seems those in Edmonton and Calgary can await a move toward increased incentives, and then rent decreases. Having tracked some of their building rates on their website, it appears consistent, as over the summer rents have been fairly stable, but the advertising of incentives have been much more prominent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They have sporadically included incentive figures in their reports up until '06, but I hadn't seen it since then, until their most recent report. For what it's worth, in 2Q of '06 they were offering about $15 per unit in incentives... in 3Q of '09 it was now at $145 per unit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quite the increase, but it should be noted that in 2Q '06 that was right in the midst of the big run up in rents (at least here in Alberta, which makes up over half of their portfolio)... conversely now we're in a period of higher vacancies and thus they're trying to lure people in, whereas in '06 they were practically beating them off with a stick (get your head out of the gutter!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll do some more digging into their reports and see what I can dig up, but I figured this was a pretty good update for now. Hope your Monday is going well, tak'er easy guys!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7366429044102456195?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/mUv8N9CCpQo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/7366429044102456195/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/rental-market-update.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7366429044102456195?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7366429044102456195?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/mUv8N9CCpQo/rental-market-update.html" title="Rental Market Update" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/rental-market-update.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU4CRXY4fCp7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-5830306494241673205</id><published>2009-11-12T06:25:00.007-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:19:24.834-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:19:24.834-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Mortgages" /><title>Fixed vs. Variable</title><content type="html">This has been a much requested topic, and one I would have touched on sooner but I made the mistake of over-thinking the question initially. It wasn't until BMO came out with a &lt;a href="http://www.bmonesbittburns.com/economics/focus/recent/091023doc.pdf"&gt;report&lt;/a&gt; last month, that I realized it was far simpler an analysis... in fact, incredibly simple.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, obviously all the variables cannot be accounted for as we know banks generally lend variable at rates of prime-plus-, or prime-minus-, thus leaves an infinite number of possible combinations... but with a little intuition we know that whatever the rate is relative to prime would merely result in a shift in data. So, you can use your imagination, we'll be doing all the calculations using the average five year rate straight against the prime rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-1s.jpg" alt="Fixed vs. Prime" title="Fixed vs. Prime" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here is a look at how the two have moved over time. Obviously track very similarly, though prime is generally lower (but not always). These are spot rates though, and to get an idea of how the two stack up in practice over time we much take into account how they perform relative to each other over their 5 year terms, and even over the entire life of the mortgage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-2s.jpg" alt="Fixed vs. Variable" title="Fixed vs. Variable" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is a more useful presentation of the data, comparing the 5-year fixed rate at any given moment against the moving-average of prime over the next five years. You'll notice it is remarkably similar to the graph from the BMO report, that's cause it's the exact same data, except their's only goes back to 1975.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we can see, in general variable has provided the more beneficial choice the vast majority of the time, as BMO noted, 82% of the time since '75, even higher at 89% going back to '51... and it has exclusively been the better choice since 1987. That is not surprising though, as rates have going down generally since 1981.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The times fixed has been the better option has been during periods immediately proceeding large spikes in interest rates. Beyond that, during periods of generally rising rates (the period up to 1981) even when fixed is the less preferable option, it tracks much closer to how variable performs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, as rates have for all intents and purposes hit absolute bottom, such info is worth considering going forward as rates are sure to rise above current levels in the years to come. That goes for whether you're buying, or if your mortgage is coming up for renewal. This may be an ideal time to hedge your bets and go fixed, at least while rates are still near record lows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-3s.jpg" alt="Fixed vs. Variable" title="Fixed vs. Variable" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here is a bit of a different perspective of the previous data. Any time the line goes into the red area, fixed was the cheaper option... conversely, when it's in the yellow, variable was the cheaper option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We kind of already discussed this, but this just gives you an idea of the proportional difference in these cases. It went as high as 4.4% into fixeds favour, and as low as 8.8% into variables. Over the presented period, the average was -1.33%, and median of -1.14%, both in favour of variable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, on average there is certainly something to be gained by going variable, but it's usually only a 1-1.5% advantage. So in times of uncertainty, such as now, you need to carefully weigh the potential positives and negatives of either route when you make a call like this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-4s.jpg" alt="Fixed vs. Variable" title="Fixed vs. Variable" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is another take, assuming if a person went fixed or variable at the start, they stayed with it through the remaining renewals for the full life of the mortgage. Here we can see how payment advantages from prior periods can compound over time. This is because at different rates, you also pay off different amounts of principle during any given term (except the final term of course)... basically, the lower the rate, the more principle you will pay off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you make the right choice in one period, it will pay off for the remaining life of the mortgage... conversely if you got the other way, you'll be paying for it for the rest of the mortgages life. This measure is a measure of how much is saved relative to the more costly option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can see that over 25 years (five terms) the scale of the advantage is much larger. Going as far as 28% in favour of variable. But again, remember this is over periods when the majority of the life of the mortgage would be while rates on going down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're not in that situation today, in all likelihood rates are heading up at least a point or two in coming years, thus, pay particular attention to the data in the 50's and early 60's when in a similar situation. During that period, the results were much more mixed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The dotted area is of mortgages and/or terms have not year completed, and the further right you go, the younger the mortgage, and thus the more the data will respond to future data. Those plots/figures have not been included in any figures I've discussed, they're just there in case you were interested in such things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091112-5s.jpg" alt="Fixed vs. Variable" title="Fixed vs. Variable" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Finally I just threw this one in for shits and giggles, this is what they'd look like if we had 30-year fixed rates like they do in the US, rather then our preference for the 5-year terms. This is using the Canadian data as I'm too lazy to look up the US numbers, and from experience their 30-year rates are close, if not often lower then our 5-year rates (no wonder our banks are so profitable huh?!) and prime would be very similar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can see here the results are more muted then the prior graph. During periods of increasing rates, fixed performs better, and during ones of lowering rates, variable does. No surprise, that's what intuition would suggest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know real estate is still ugly in the states, but you gotta figure in a lot markets prices have returned to their long term trendlines, if not dipped below. That combined with this current interest rate environment, there may never be a better time to buy if you're a potential first-time buyer south of the border. Even if prices slide a bit further, you've locked in at a sweetheart rate, and thus probably still better off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We north of the border on the other hand, are at the opposite end of the curve, still near the top (or in some cities, right at it) of the bubble. We still have a world of hurt to come before we return to market conditions that are ripe for those looking to enter the market, buying in now is more a debt trap then anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, hope this answered some of your questions about the historical performances of fixed vs. variable rates. But, if you have any more, fire away!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-5830306494241673205?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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A big day in a blogs life, much like drinking your first beer, or discovering masturbation... not that I  have any particular memories of either of those events, nor will I of this, but it's a milestone none the less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whodathunk someone with no particular ability to write, even less influence, and nothing especially interesting to say would fill so many pages?! Well, actually that pretty much describes most bloggers, so maybe I'm not so bad. After a little drifting early on, I like to think I fell into a groove and have carved out a nice little niche for myself in the blogosphere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's been about ten months, and a quite eventful ten months... yet it seems nothing has really been solved and the future is just as uncertain now as it was then.  My perhaps naive and optimistic hope that we'd just accept that economic pain was coming and try to get it over with quickly proved politically undesirable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why flush out all the toxins in one fell swoop and get on with rebuilding, when you can dump money on the problems, make the short-term less worse all the while making the longer-term much more-so?! Really that could be said for our financial mess and the housing situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As per housing here, prices and sales plummeted, then prices rallied and sales soared. If you ever doubted the influence of interest rates on the housing market, you'll probably never see another period as good as the last six months to witness the effects of interest rates in a vacuum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People went out en masse and were suddenly buying houses as a record clip, while incomes certainly weren't improving and prices were in the same range as just a few months earlier when sales were at record lows... all during the biggest recession since The Great Depression. Amazing what interest rates dropping can do, huh?!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course that shot my predictions for the year all to hell, but I knew that as soon as rates started getting slashed. I guess I should have took heed of that old economists mantra, "if you give a number, don't give a date... if you give a date, don't give a number". Oh well, doesn't seem economists heed it either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, my long term stance that we're overpriced remains, and that prices will eventually return to affordability. The trip is just going to be longer, and thanks to another wave of over-leveraged first time buyers that got swept up this summer, more painful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess if there was one group of  real winners of the resurgence in my opinion, they were the builders holding excess stock, this gave them one more chance to clear it out. There was a real big glut there and this would have helped flush at least part of it out. Though there still does appear to be apply attached inventory still out there, large portions of entire developments continue to show up occasionally on the multiple listings service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not sure anyone else is going benefit much from it in the long run. The problem that got us into the mess was too much debt, and we seemingly doubled down on it in an attempt to re-inflate the bubble. It worked short-term sure, but long term it's just made all the problems that much worse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever good effect that was experienced on the inventory front, will more than be erased by the resulting increase in defaults that will come. Lending standards have already been stripped, so many of these first timers were those that couldn't even qualify for financing before, thus required the low bar AND incredibly low rates to get in. Now we have a whole new wave of foreclosures waiting to happen, what was likely going to be at least a moderate problem before will very likely become a big problem in the coming years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course interest rates aren't local, and neither was the '09 real estate boom, it was nationwide. In a lot of markets things just went wild... in Toronto for example the average price rose over 23% from January to October ($343,632 to $423,559). Many cities hitting all time highs as irrational exuberance reigned supreme. Misery loves company, now we have even more!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We here in Edmonton are actually sitting about the same as we were in January pricewise, perhaps lucky we had such a large glut of inventory saved us from returning to the multiple-offer/bidding wars that were all so common place during the run-up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While little solace for those who bought recently when prices inevitably start to fall again, but it could have been worse. Fortunately our major boom had already played out, who knows the heights the may have been reached if we were still in the run-up, rather than two years removed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rocketing of real estate prices across the country became so pronounced, as the fall arrived the dreaded "bubble" words started to be bandied about in the major publications. Even some big players in political circles have acknowledged it, and no surprise the onset of finger pointing soon kicked off with Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney calling out lenders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As this thing unravels there will be more, lots more. As to who's to blame, we'll leave that for another day as I'm already running long. So buckle up guys and gals, it's gonna be a bumpy ride... and I have a feeling we'll be celebrating many more century marks along the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Signing off,&lt;br /&gt;Kevin&lt;br /&gt;DOCTOR OF BLOGONOMICS&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;®&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;TM&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;©&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-7487551434766261298?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/xNfzAfiZ1nE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/7487551434766261298/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/100.html#comment-form" title="6 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7487551434766261298?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/7487551434766261298?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/xNfzAfiZ1nE/100.html" title="100" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">6</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/100.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU4HQ3g9cSp7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-6108166101460794113</id><published>2009-11-07T06:41:00.004-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:18:52.669-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:18:52.669-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Alberta" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Macroeconomics" /><title>Ouch.... very ouch</title><content type="html">Statcan released the &lt;a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/091106/dq091106a-eng.htm"&gt;October employment numbers&lt;/a&gt; Friday, and they they were fugly. Employment was down right across the country, and Alberta was one of the biggest losers. So, lets dive right in and start with the ever so high profile unemployment rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-1s.jpg" alt="Alberta - Unemployment Rate" title="Alberta - Unemployment Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Unemployment in Alberta went up to 7.5% in October, up from 7.1% in September. That month-over-month rise wasn't as high as the other prairie provinces, but that is at least partially the result the labour force shrinking by 6,400, as the eligible population evidently continued to grow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bear in mind all these numbers have been massaged and modelled to within an inch of uselessness, but they're the best we have. In any case, we can see from the graph we're at a level not seen since the mid-90's, and sharing a trajectory eerily similar to the big recession in the 80's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-2s.jpg" alt="Alberta - Full Time Employment Rate" title="Alberta - Full Time Employment Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I'm not a big fan of the unemployment rate, as it can be skewed, like by the seemingly arbitrary drop in labour force last month. It also counts part- and full-time jobs equally, which I don't think is necessarily reflective as losing the latter for the sake of the former would typically not be deemed favourable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus I derived my own little measure, dividing the number of those employed full-time, by the total eligible population (basically those 15 years of age and older). By this measure we're sitting at 56%, a drop of about 5% in the last year, and the lowest the rate has been since 2000. Again, this measure also shares a trajectory very similar to that of the 80's recession.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091107-3s.jpg" alt="Alberta - Full Time Employment Year-over-year" title="Alberta - Full Time Employment Year-over-year" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now we'll look at the year-over-year change in full-time jobs. In the last 12 months the province has lost just shy of 90,000 full-time positions. This is the deepest drop ever, but remember that the population is significantly larger today then in '83, so proportionally we're not as bad off, yet anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can also see how good we had it from 2006-to-2008, when full-time jobs were coming on board at a record clip, topping out at about 140,000 at one point. Should have done an average/median for this one, but we'll save something for next month. It's also been requested to compare employment levels to real estate prices, so we may do that then too, or maybe even earlier if the spirit moves me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy your weekend guys and gals!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-6108166101460794113?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/EnPCq9o9hxg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/6108166101460794113/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/ouch-very-ouch.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6108166101460794113?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6108166101460794113?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/EnPCq9o9hxg/ouch-very-ouch.html" title="Ouch.... very ouch" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/ouch-very-ouch.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU4FQHkyeSp7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-6502700645229155763</id><published>2009-11-05T11:27:00.006-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:18:31.791-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:18:31.791-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Canada" /><title>A hill to die on?</title><content type="html">&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091105-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091105-1.jpg" alt="Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" title="Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Had another post planned for today, but in light of this emerging story that will no doubt be on the forefront for the next while, I figured lets run with this. So, the shit has kind of hit the fan this past week in MLS land, as the Competition Bureau concluded that the CREA has &lt;a href="http://www.yourhome.ca/homes/newsfeatures/article/719628--real-estate-fees-could-be-slashed"&gt;rules deemed anti-competitive&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the specific details of the Competition Bureau's findings have not been officially released, there was &lt;a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Real+estate+industry+could+face+millions+fines+lower+fees/2175581/story.html"&gt;news of a leaked CREA letter&lt;/a&gt; more or less detailing said findings. I've obtained a copy of the original, and you can view it in all it's glory &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/crealetter.pdf"&gt;via this link&lt;/a&gt; if you're so inclined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing particularly earth shattering about it, just kind of outlines the Competition Bureau's findings, which the CREA states they disagree with (duh!), the some possible ramifications of the requested changes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems the CREA is leaning towards pursuing a settlement agreement, rather then face a Competition Tribunal... which basically translates to their not liking their odds if they had their day in court, and would rather try to plead it down rather then risk really having their asses handed to them at the tribunal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that is just the higher-up's position, the actual decision will be made in December when they're holding something of an emergency meeting where the members will decide on their ultimate strategy... I would think if they thought they had a hope in hell they'd probably fight this one to the death. If their is any hill this cabal would be willing to die on, these issues would be it as this would really draw the curtain back. So, it will be interesting to see what comes out of the meeting next month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the items the Competition Bureau wants changed/removed from CREA policy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Section 17.1.1.1: Agency&lt;br /&gt;A listing REALTOR® must act as agent for the seller to sell the property and to assist the seller through the entire time of the listing contract.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Section 17.2.1: The listing REALTOR® shall receive and present all offers and counter offers to the seller.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Section 17.2.3: The mere posting of property information in an MLS® system is contrary to CREA’s Rules. A “mere posting” occurs when the listing agreement relieves the listing member of any obligations under the Rules, including the obligation that the listing REALTOR® must remain the agent of the seller throughout the term of the listing contract.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Section 17.2.6: Only the listing REALTOR® name(s) and contact information may appear on REALTOR.ca. The seller’s name or contact information shall not appear on REALTOR.ca or in the public remarks section of the MLS® system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basically it boils down to wrestling much of the control over dealings with the seller, and allowing the seller more options when it comes to what services they want (sort of like going from a table d'hôte system, to an à la carte one). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While none of that seems like particularly egregious requests, agents are resistant because this would effectively shine a light on a region of their dealings that they benefit greatly from a tacit agreement from their ranks to toe the party line and keeping the public in the dark. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even with the recent emergence of reduced commission brokers, while they may get on MLS, they are still often shunned by regular agents, or potential buyers are scared off those properties by the prospect of paying their agents commission directly out-of-pocket (though, it's effectively coming out of there anyway). The entire process is kind of ambiguous to the general public, whose real estate transactions are few and far between... which is advantageous to agents, as knowledge is power, and the less the public has the better it is for you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion, I think the Competition Bureau's requests would actually be beneficial for both the public and agents. As it stands now when taking on clients, agents bear all the risk. The listing agent goes out of pocket for all the listing and marketing, and only gets paid if the property sells. Same goes for the buyers agents, they do all the leg work, and again only gets paid if there is a sale. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there is no transactions, the agents end up eating all those costs, fiscal and their time/effort. The commissions currently being earned are excessive (IMO), but they are in no way guaranteed... commission sales can be highly compensated, but remains a tough and risky gig. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, assuming the Competition Bureau gets its way, I think we'll see some very distinct changes to the operations of these outlets. We'll probably see a lot of specialization, some outfits will just get you listed and a lockbox and charge a flat fee (sort of like ComFree does now)... others will offering marketing services, again for a fee upfront. Which for the sellers will transfer all risk and reward onto them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the buyers side, we may see commissions stay, or a move toward charging an hourly rate, and/or some hybrid(s) of the two... but I think the payments will eventually be coming directly from the buyers, rather then the current situation. Probably also see even more focus on certain areas/segments of the market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately I think these changes will be good, for the consumer and the industry. Services should improve, transparency definitely will, and highly competent agents would probably make just as much and have the added bonus of dealing with others of their ilk, as hopefully the increased competition would weed the bad ones out. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What effect will all this have on prices? Probably not much. Sellers may be a bit more willing to negotiate from their asking price, but in general they'll still be looking to get every penny they can. Just look at ComFree, those listings don't tend to be any cheaper then those on MLS. 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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~4/BxnYHMrsT6Q" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/feeds/6502700645229155763/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/hill-to-die-on.html#comment-form" title="10 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6502700645229155763?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3694345020152426057/posts/default/6502700645229155763?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EdmontonHousingBust/~3/BxnYHMrsT6Q/hill-to-die-on.html" title="A hill to die on?" /><author><name>Kevin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18338995386858315180</uri><email>ehbust@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="05604779837016436200" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">10</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/11/hill-to-die-on.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DU8DQ3Y4fSp7ImA9WxBTEU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694345020152426057.post-2259473948803218600</id><published>2009-11-03T11:34:00.009-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-06T15:17:52.835-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-12-06T15:17:52.835-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Monthly Stats" /><title>October numbers are in....</title><content type="html">The October resale numbers were released today, and it was a much different story then we've been hearing about the last few months, and even what happened in &lt;a href="http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/01/october-2009-calgary-real-estate-statistics/"&gt;Calgary last month&lt;/a&gt;. While sales were down noticeably from &lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com/2009/10/september-numbers-are-in.html"&gt;September&lt;/a&gt; (as is normally expected given real estates seasonality), they were still very strong for October... yet prices were down in a big way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-1s.jpg" alt="Prices" title="Prices" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In all categories prices fell, and rather significantly for month-over-month movements. Condo's, single-family-homes and the residential averages were all down about $8,000 from September (3.2%, 2.2% and 2.5% respectively), and the single-family-home median was down $3,900 (1.1%).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An unusual softening given relatively strong sales, but as I've hypothesized in the last few months, this could be further evidence of the return of high levels of speculation. As they typically buy at the low end of the market, that would explain the strong sales and movement of price... or could just be wishful thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Curious that Edmonton and Calgary tend to mirror each other, yet Edmonton had a significant drop while Calgary had increases. Could just be an aberration, or we could see one eventually follow the other. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-2s.jpg" alt="Inventory and Sales" title="Inventory and Sales" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As previously mentioned, sales were down month-over-month (-9.9%), but strong for this time of year (1,535). Inventory also continued it's typical autumn decline, and now sit at 5,530. Finally absorption rate stayed about the same at 3.6, as sales and inventory fell off at similar clips.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091103-3s.jpg" alt="Absorption Rate" title="Absorption Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As always, here are the hard goods (note, this will be the last month townhomes are included. They make up such a tiny portion of the market and are so frequently lumped in with condos there isn't much point including them, but if so included you can still look them up in the EREB releases):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sales = 1,530&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = +20.3% (+259)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +22.7% (+284)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -9.9% (-169)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Active Listings = 5,530&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since two years ago = -42.3% (-4,047)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = -35.1% (-2,995)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -8.3% (-502)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Median= $346,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -13.5% (-$54,000)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +0.9% (+$3,250)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +2.7% (+$9,000)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -1.1% (-$3,900)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Residential Average = $318,969&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -10.1% (-$35,749)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +0.4% (+$1,185)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +2.2% (+$6,842)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -2.5% (-$8,266)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Single Family Homes Average = $363,694&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (May '07) = -14.6% (-$62,334)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +0.1% (+$420)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +2.9% (+$10,308)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -2.2% (-$8,253)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Condo Average = $237,601&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (July '07) = -12.6% (-$34,307)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = +0.0% (+$11)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +0.7% (+$1,581)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -3.2% (-$7,945)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Townhome Average = $299,843&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since peak (Oct '07) = -18.5% (-$68,121)&lt;br /&gt;Since one year ago = -2.4% (-$7,335)&lt;br /&gt;Since six months ago = +3.0% (+$8,775)&lt;br /&gt;Since last month = -0.0% (-$121)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3694345020152426057-2259473948803218600?l=edmontonhousingbust.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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During our discussion about exchange rates last week, it was requested I take a look at the Bank of Canada Rate and it's influences, so today we're going to do just that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-1s.jpg" alt="Bank of Canada Rate" title="Bank of Canada Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here is a look at the historical Bank of Canada rate, going right back to 1935. Seems to chart a pattern much like the mortgage rates we're familiar with, but that's no surprise and we'll touch on that again toward the end. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of note, we can see that currently it sits at it's lowest point in history. The prior low had been 1.22%, hit for one month, July of 1958. Before that it had an extended run at 1.50% in the mid-to-late 40's, toward the end of WWII and immediately following. The high was August of 1981, when it hit 21.03%, which was the only time it eclipsed 20%. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-3.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-3s.jpg" alt="Bank of Canada Rate / Exchange Rate" title="Bank of Canada Rate / Exchange Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now we'll take a quick look at how the bank rate effected the exchange rate (with the US). There doesn't appear to be much rhyme or reason to the movements, though after the big recession in the early 80's through the turn of the century there does appear like there could be some relationship, but not so much since.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To get a better picture I think we need to include the American equivalent, the Fed Funds Rate, as just looking at the Canadian rate in a vacuum against another currency could be misleading. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-2.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-2s.jpg" alt="Bank of Canada Rate / Fed Funds Rate" title="Bank of Canada Rate / Fed Funds Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;So, here is how those two chart out. As I've said here before, we tend to move lockstep with the US, so no big surprise that we share very similar patterns. Over the above period, the Bank of Canada rate averaged to be 0.93% higher, for what that's worth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-4.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-4s.jpg" alt="Bank of Canada Rate / Fed Funds Rate / Exchange Rate" title="Bank of Canada Rate / Fed Funds Rate / Exchange Rate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Now we'll take a look at how the spread between the Bank of Canada Rate and Fed Funds Rate relate to movements in exchange rate... and I really can't say I see much of anything on that front. This shouldn't really be a surprise, as our policy tends to follow theirs very closely and can adjust very quickly in that regard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, for the most part it appears that exchange rate movements are more dependant on stimuli other then central bank rates. That's not to say they couldn't be, but because we're tied to the hip to the US, and our economy dependant on exporting to them, maintaining consistent policy (and thus exchange rate) is often viewed as desirable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-5.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://edmontonhousingbust.com/files/091101-5s.jpg" alt="Bank of Canada Rate / Exchange Rate" title="Bank of Canada Rate / Mortgage Rates" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Finally, we'll tie this back in to housing by comparing the Bank of Canada Rate to the average five-year-fixed mortgage rate and prime lending rate (what variable mortgages are tied to). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They seem to be fairly consistent in their behaviours, tracking together with the bank rate the lowest, the prime rate shifted above that, and the five-year-fixed rate another shift above that, with the odd deviation here or there. Noticably, in  the mid-50's there appeared to be a larger spread then since, and there was a lot of turmoil during the runaway inflation of the 70's and resulting recession in the 80's, but the pattern largely persists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since 1951, the prime rate has averaged to be 1.42% higher than the bank rate... and the five-year-fixed rate 1.34% higher than prime (or 2.76% higher than the bank rate). It's remained in that ballpark over the last 20 year, and 10 year periods as well in case you were curious. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, hopefully that answered any questions you may have had about the Bank of Canada rate! On tap for later this week will be the October resale stats release, and a long-term look at fixed vs. variable mortgages, and which performed better. 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