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		<title>Comment on Relationships account for 30-40% of differences in performance – Part 2 of ‘Where next for the Fit Forum?’ by Relationships account for up to 40% of differences in performance « deboxing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Relationships account for up to 40% of differences in performance « deboxing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] part 2 of my reflections on where to take the Fit Forum, one of my projects. Part 1 can be found here.) My intention here has been [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Where next for the Fit Forum? Part 1 of 2 by Where next for the Fit Forum? Part 1 of 2 « deboxing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where next for the Fit Forum? Part 1 of 2 « deboxing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] of research that overlap with this territory. Part 1 of my musings on this subject can be found here. And, as ever, feedback/comment positively [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Where now for the Fit Forum? Part 1 of 2</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Fit/Non-Fit through the lens of Human Systems Dynamics (HSD) by 4th Fit Forum event – recording now available « deboxing</title>
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		<dc:creator>4th Fit Forum event – recording now available « deboxing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] The recording can be found here. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on An interview with Glenda Eoyang, founding Executive Director of the Human Systems Dynamics Institute by Steve Hearsum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hearsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment was posted by Glenda on my website, and she has asked me to post ot here as well....

"Thanks for the stimulating conversation today!

Megan Rounds did the research about cultural differences and conflict between organizations and employees. You can reach her at megan@perculcha.com.

You might be interested in Society for Chaos Theory in Psychology and the Life Sciences (SCTPLS) http://www.societyforchaostheory.org/.

I look forward to a continuing inquiry. Glenda"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment was posted by Glenda on my website, and she has asked me to post ot here as well&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks for the stimulating conversation today!</p>
<p>Megan Rounds did the research about cultural differences and conflict between organizations and employees. You can reach her at <a href="mailto:megan@perculcha.com">megan@perculcha.com</a>.</p>
<p>You might be interested in Society for Chaos Theory in Psychology and the Life Sciences (SCTPLS) <a href="http://www.societyforchaostheory.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.societyforchaostheory.org/</a>.</p>
<p>I look forward to a continuing inquiry. Glenda&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Value Judgements in Relation to Fit Creation by 3rd Fit Forum recording now available « deboxing</title>
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		<dc:creator>3rd Fit Forum recording now available « deboxing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] November 4, 2009 by stevehearsum    The 3rd Fit Forum event, on the theme of the conscious and unconscious in fit creation, took place on the 24th September. There is a recording of the call at the bottom of this page. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on 5pm 24th September – Next Fit Forum Call by Polarity model of ‘Good’ Fit/’Bad’ Fit and the Conscious/Unconscious « deboxing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polarity model of ‘Good’ Fit/’Bad’ Fit and the Conscious/Unconscious « deboxing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] 24, 2009 by stevehearsum    Today is the 3rd Fit Forum event, which sadly I will not be able to make now. As I was mulling over the theme for today, namely the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on How do you decide if there is good or bad fit between you and someone else when you meet them?….. by Steve Hearsum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hearsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A belated (post holiday) reply....

Hi Pete,

I echo your thoughts on the 'flow' in the context of for. One of the things that Bruce and I discussed early on, when we started to talk about the possibility of the Fit Forum, was a belief in the emergence of some-'thing' that we come to know as 'fit'. It could be said that what we actually experience is a constant process of changing 'fit', as we self-organize consciously and unconsciously around one another. 

I would agree that transforming relationships is possible, and that in turns leads you back to the intention and intentionality that the parties come with.  To take your example of Jobs &amp; Sculley, that would appear to suggest that the 'fit' that was supposedly there was either misinterpreted, and/or in the desire to make the union work (like the classic M&amp;A metaphor) differences in the Bride &amp; Groom were ignored in the hurry to jump into bed with one another. What we do not know the extent to which the 'mis'-fit was around motive and goal at a business/strategy level, as opposed to their lived experience of eachother.

Hope you can join us tomorrow.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A belated (post holiday) reply&#8230;.</p>
<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>I echo your thoughts on the &#8216;flow&#8217; in the context of for. One of the things that Bruce and I discussed early on, when we started to talk about the possibility of the Fit Forum, was a belief in the emergence of some-&#8217;thing&#8217; that we come to know as &#8216;fit&#8217;. It could be said that what we actually experience is a constant process of changing &#8216;fit&#8217;, as we self-organize consciously and unconsciously around one another. </p>
<p>I would agree that transforming relationships is possible, and that in turns leads you back to the intention and intentionality that the parties come with.  To take your example of Jobs &amp; Sculley, that would appear to suggest that the &#8216;fit&#8217; that was supposedly there was either misinterpreted, and/or in the desire to make the union work (like the classic M&amp;A metaphor) differences in the Bride &amp; Groom were ignored in the hurry to jump into bed with one another. What we do not know the extent to which the &#8216;mis&#8217;-fit was around motive and goal at a business/strategy level, as opposed to their lived experience of eachother.</p>
<p>Hope you can join us tomorrow.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do you decide if there is good or bad fit between you and someone else when you meet them?….. by Pete Burden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bruce

The process she suggests is, I think, quite straightforward. What I find so encouraging about her view is that she seems to imply that unlike a static situation where two people either fit together or don't, she suggests that by adopting certain ways of communicating, and in particular stepping outside the relationship to get a meta-level view of it, relationships can be transformed.

She gives the example of Steve Jobs and John Sculley as one where the original appearance of "fit" quickly broke down under pressure.

But my reading from her other case-studies is that it is possible to transform a relationship to a positive one even where some might say at first analysis that there isn't good fit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce</p>
<p>The process she suggests is, I think, quite straightforward. What I find so encouraging about her view is that she seems to imply that unlike a static situation where two people either fit together or don&#8217;t, she suggests that by adopting certain ways of communicating, and in particular stepping outside the relationship to get a meta-level view of it, relationships can be transformed.</p>
<p>She gives the example of Steve Jobs and John Sculley as one where the original appearance of &#8220;fit&#8221; quickly broke down under pressure.</p>
<p>But my reading from her other case-studies is that it is possible to transform a relationship to a positive one even where some might say at first analysis that there isn&#8217;t good fit.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do you decide if there is good or bad fit between you and someone else when you meet them?….. by Bruce Lewin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Lewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pete,

I haven't read the book myself, not sure if Steve has though...

That said, I'd certainly see fit as being more dynamic than static in terms of the time perspective one adopts. Single moments in time *might* be subject to a binary view of fit, although including more granularity is likely to appeal to all concerned.

Given multiple data points in time, there is no doubt that fit flows and is much more dynamic.  That said, understanding understanding McLain Smith's process would be good too. 

Can you shed any light on this at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the book myself, not sure if Steve has though&#8230;</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d certainly see fit as being more dynamic than static in terms of the time perspective one adopts. Single moments in time *might* be subject to a binary view of fit, although including more granularity is likely to appeal to all concerned.</p>
<p>Given multiple data points in time, there is no doubt that fit flows and is much more dynamic.  That said, understanding understanding McLain Smith&#8217;s process would be good too. </p>
<p>Can you shed any light on this at all?</p>
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