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		<title>Comment on Interception of generics in the Netherlands: Dutch courage? by Hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Blindly optimistic or blindingly obvious? by Kir</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Complicating a numbers game: SAR, emergency preparedness, and how we should spend our resources by Michael Keizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-28373" rel="nofollow"&gt;@Tim Ogden &lt;/a&gt; 
Ì think you misunderstand my argument. If you don't mind me altering your own words a bit, this would be the correct way of describing it: “The lives of of potential future victims of urban disasters (who would not be rescued by well-trained SAR services because of resources devoted to health efforts in Haiti), not only in the 'first world' but just as much in developing countries who could send SAR teams for this sort of real-life experience, are as valuable as the lives of potential current Haitian patients.” I am not saying that this, by itself, would have the scales dip in favour of doing this, just that ignoring this part of the 'equation' is short-sighted.

In any case, I think &lt;a href="#comment-19484" rel="nofollow"&gt;@Ursula L's&lt;/a&gt; argument, about the emotional side-effects, is even more cogent. I still think it does not automatically lead to the conclusion that we &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; continue with SAR as we do now, but I do think that the case against it, as it is presented now, is often overly simplistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-28373" rel="nofollow">@Tim Ogden </a><br />
Ì think you misunderstand my argument. If you don&#8217;t mind me altering your own words a bit, this would be the correct way of describing it: “The lives of of potential future victims of urban disasters (who would not be rescued by well-trained SAR services because of resources devoted to health efforts in Haiti), not only in the &#8216;first world&#8217; but just as much in developing countries who could send SAR teams for this sort of real-life experience, are as valuable as the lives of potential current Haitian patients.” I am not saying that this, by itself, would have the scales dip in favour of doing this, just that ignoring this part of the &#8216;equation&#8217; is short-sighted.</p>
<p>In any case, I think <a href="#comment-19484" rel="nofollow">@Ursula L&#8217;s</a> argument, about the emotional side-effects, is even more cogent. I still think it does not automatically lead to the conclusion that we <em>should</em> continue with SAR as we do now, but I do think that the case against it, as it is presented now, is often overly simplistic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complicating a numbers game: SAR, emergency preparedness, and how we should spend our resources by Tim Ogden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Ogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment about the usefulness of sending SAR teams for "training" purposes makes me feel even worse about sending SAR teams. That logic, boiled down, is: "The lives of current Haitians (who are not receiving medical attention because of resources devoted to SAR) are less valuable than the lives of potential future first world victims of urban disasters."

In all aid, but especially in emergencies, it comes down to limited resources: money, time, runway space, fuel, etc. 

Let's hope that we are getting better at the trade-offs between uses of those resources over time, and not just better at either papering over or ineffectually complaining about those trade-offs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about the usefulness of sending SAR teams for &#8220;training&#8221; purposes makes me feel even worse about sending SAR teams. That logic, boiled down, is: &#8220;The lives of current Haitians (who are not receiving medical attention because of resources devoted to SAR) are less valuable than the lives of potential future first world victims of urban disasters.&#8221;</p>
<p>In all aid, but especially in emergencies, it comes down to limited resources: money, time, runway space, fuel, etc. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope that we are getting better at the trade-offs between uses of those resources over time, and not just better at either papering over or ineffectually complaining about those trade-offs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Visibility, transparency, and some sunshine by A Humourless Lot» Logistics, health and aid: The public/private mix in health logistics</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Humourless Lot» Logistics, health and aid: The public/private mix in health logistics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] jump immediately to mind (or it should, if you have all been paying attention and read my post on visibility and transparency). However, there are very few logistics companies (or, for that matter, health ministries or health [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] jump immediately to mind (or it should, if you have all been paying attention and read my post on visibility and transparency). However, there are very few logistics companies (or, for that matter, health ministries or health [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A public service announcement by Michael Keizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-27281" rel="nofollow"&gt;@Don Lovell &lt;/a&gt; 
Well, perhaps you should ask these people themselves, not me. But, although I don't agree with it, their arguments are not totally nonsensical and go something like this:

"How can you write critically about organisations that you hope to be employed by later? Is e.g. &lt;a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/logistics-questions-around-the-haiti-earthquake/" rel="nofollow"&gt;your article about the logistics in Haiti&lt;/a&gt; a sober assessment, or a partisan defense of those organisations? And how can you write critically about logistics practices that you have helped create in the first place? We don't know, but at least help us by making explicit where your position could possibly influence what you say."

I really do not want to figure out for every article that I write what these people (some of whom I know and admire, BTW) might see as a possible conflict of interest; hence this general disclaimer.

In any case, it is good practice to verify what you read before you act on it; so I don't mind a general presupposition that I am biased, if that makes people read what I write in a critical mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-27281" rel="nofollow">@Don Lovell </a><br />
Well, perhaps you should ask these people themselves, not me. But, although I don&#8217;t agree with it, their arguments are not totally nonsensical and go something like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;How can you write critically about organisations that you hope to be employed by later? Is e.g. <a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/logistics-questions-around-the-haiti-earthquake/" rel="nofollow">your article about the logistics in Haiti</a> a sober assessment, or a partisan defense of those organisations? And how can you write critically about logistics practices that you have helped create in the first place? We don&#8217;t know, but at least help us by making explicit where your position could possibly influence what you say.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really do not want to figure out for every article that I write what these people (some of whom I know and admire, BTW) might see as a possible conflict of interest; hence this general disclaimer.</p>
<p>In any case, it is good practice to verify what you read before you act on it; so I don&#8217;t mind a general presupposition that I am biased, if that makes people read what I write in a critical mindset.</p>
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		<dc:creator>usni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2009/do-you-see-technology-aiding-supply-lines-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-27287</link>
		<dc:creator>logistics technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>aid network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A public service announcement by Don Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, let me get this right. For some, writing about global health and aid though having been employed in the sector is tantamount to a conflict of interest. What I would like to know then, is who should be writing about the subject; possibly someone employed as say, a migrant worker in the agricultural industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me get this right. For some, writing about global health and aid though having been employed in the sector is tantamount to a conflict of interest. What I would like to know then, is who should be writing about the subject; possibly someone employed as say, a migrant worker in the agricultural industry?</p>
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		<description>[...] have seen what third-party logistics is and what are its strengths and weaknesses; and why it will be part of logistics for global health and aid. But what does this mean for us? [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>A Humourless Lot» Three-part invention: what 3PL will mean for our logistics practices – Logistics for global health and aid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the advantages of 3PL. What’s more, the more advanced 3PL providers have developed their own supply chain visibility solutions; and not only that, but often they are keen to help us to make our own systems [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>A Humourless Lot» Humourless links for March 1, 2010 – Logistics for global health and aid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have said it before and I will say it again: aid is complex and trying to simplify it does not help. Luckily I am not the only one to say so. [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>A Humourless Lot» Latest job opportunities in logistics for global health and aid (February 28, 2010)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sigh. Did anyone read my earlier rant on bad job advertisement practices? [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why third-party logistics is part of the future of global health and aid by Michael Keizer</title>
		<link>http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/why-third-party-logistics-is-part-of-the-future-of-global-health-and-aid/comment-page-1/#comment-25315</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-25281" rel="nofollow"&gt;@J. &lt;/a&gt; 
"Value chain"? Secretly been reading Porter, have you? ;)

Yes, the claims made are always a bit funny; to use value chain terminology: each of the actors claims to be the value driver for &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; of the value added. I am sure that if you add up all the 'beneficiaries' (a word that I thoroughly dislike, by the way) claimed to have been assisted by all aid organisations, you would end up with an assisted population the size of a much larger country.

I think you make a couple of very astute observations here in one short sentence:
- Whether you are a 2PL/3PL provider or working in 1PL is a matter of perspective: the US Navy might be a 2PL provider from the point of view of WFP, but is working 1PL from its own perspective.
- 2PL/3PL providers can very well be aid organisations. A good example is how WFP is 'provider of last resort' in the logistics cluster, and hence can be a 3PL provider for other aid organisations -- and actually already often is, even without getting into the 'last resort' situation. This is something that I will write about in more detail in the next article in the series.
- The whole supply chain is part of the value chain and serves to add 'value' to our activities, i.e. enable better aid to the people who need it. This comes back to &lt;a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2009/do-you-see-technology-aiding-supply-lines-or-not/" rel="nofollow"&gt;what I wrote before about systems thinking&lt;/a&gt;, and is something that we sadly lose track of at times.</description>
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&#8220;Value chain&#8221;? Secretly been reading Porter, have you? <img src='http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, the claims made are always a bit funny; to use value chain terminology: each of the actors claims to be the value driver for <em>all</em> of the value added. I am sure that if you add up all the &#8216;beneficiaries&#8217; (a word that I thoroughly dislike, by the way) claimed to have been assisted by all aid organisations, you would end up with an assisted population the size of a much larger country.</p>
<p>I think you make a couple of very astute observations here in one short sentence:<br />
- Whether you are a 2PL/3PL provider or working in 1PL is a matter of perspective: the US Navy might be a 2PL provider from the point of view of WFP, but is working 1PL from its own perspective.<br />
- 2PL/3PL providers can very well be aid organisations. A good example is how WFP is &#8216;provider of last resort&#8217; in the logistics cluster, and hence can be a 3PL provider for other aid organisations &#8212; and actually already often is, even without getting into the &#8216;last resort&#8217; situation. This is something that I will write about in more detail in the next article in the series.<br />
- The whole supply chain is part of the value chain and serves to add &#8216;value&#8217; to our activities, i.e. enable better aid to the people who need it. This comes back to <a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2009/do-you-see-technology-aiding-supply-lines-or-not/" rel="nofollow">what I wrote before about systems thinking</a>, and is something that we sadly lose track of at times.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One aspect of 3PL that I found interesting Haiti recently (and ongoing) is that the logistics side of relief distribution, from air/sea transport, to warehousing, to transport from warehouse to distribution point is increasingly being negotiated as part of the whole value chain. WFP provides food, USMC provides transport, NGOs distribute to end-users (one example). All three claim a role in the relief effort and all three claim - at least partially - to have served X # beneficiaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One aspect of 3PL that I found interesting Haiti recently (and ongoing) is that the logistics side of relief distribution, from air/sea transport, to warehousing, to transport from warehouse to distribution point is increasingly being negotiated as part of the whole value chain. WFP provides food, USMC provides transport, NGOs distribute to end-users (one example). All three claim a role in the relief effort and all three claim &#8211; at least partially &#8211; to have served X # beneficiaries.</p>
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		<dc:creator>A Humourless Lot» Why third-party logistics is part of the future of global health and aid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or wrongly (and if you followed this blog you know where I stand on that question), there is a big push from donors to economise on ‘HQ’ or ‘overhead’. This means that the [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/complicating-a-numbers-game-sar-emergency-preparedness-and-how-we-should-spend-our-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-23378</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-23324" rel="nofollow"&gt;@Eric K. Noji, M.D. &lt;/a&gt; 
"Gauging by the less than knowledgeable comments in this forum, what is discouraging to me is how few of the lessons of past major SAR operations have been institutionalized. The challenge is how to translate the results of research to policy makers, funding agencies and to well-meaning medical volunteers."

One way to start would be by pointing us to relevant literature; and perhaps even by giving a summary of these findings. You would be very welcome to do so in a featured post instead of the comments section if you would prefer so.</description>
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&#8220;Gauging by the less than knowledgeable comments in this forum, what is discouraging to me is how few of the lessons of past major SAR operations have been institutionalized. The challenge is how to translate the results of research to policy makers, funding agencies and to well-meaning medical volunteers.&#8221;</p>
<p>One way to start would be by pointing us to relevant literature; and perhaps even by giving a summary of these findings. You would be very welcome to do so in a featured post instead of the comments section if you would prefer so.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Eric K. Noji, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The questions and comments above have been raised ad nauseum after every major event since the Mexico City earthquake in 1985 (first major international deployment of teams specialized in building collapse SAR).  A voluminous amount of research has been conducted on the issue of survivability in building collapse and cost-benefit of deployment of HUSAR.  Published in both scientific journals as well as training manuals.  Hundreds of major conferences, forums, symposia on these issues since the mid-1980s.  Gauging by the less than knowledgeable comments in this forum, what is discouraging to me is how few of the lessons of past major SAR operations have been institutionalized.  The challenge is how to translate the results of research to policy makers, funding agencies and to well-meaning medical volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The questions and comments above have been raised ad nauseum after every major event since the Mexico City earthquake in 1985 (first major international deployment of teams specialized in building collapse SAR).  A voluminous amount of research has been conducted on the issue of survivability in building collapse and cost-benefit of deployment of HUSAR.  Published in both scientific journals as well as training manuals.  Hundreds of major conferences, forums, symposia on these issues since the mid-1980s.  Gauging by the less than knowledgeable comments in this forum, what is discouraging to me is how few of the lessons of past major SAR operations have been institutionalized.  The challenge is how to translate the results of research to policy makers, funding agencies and to well-meaning medical volunteers.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-20767" rel="nofollow"&gt;@Claire &lt;/a&gt; 
Thanks, Claire! As you can imagine, I totally agree with you concerning unwanted donations. I have written a bit before about the challenges of &lt;a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/the-challenge-of-reverse-logistics-in-global-health/" rel="nofollow"&gt;reverse logistics in aid&lt;/a&gt;, and I am sure I will give it more attention in the future. In the mean time, I would recommend that everybody who is interested in the issues around unwanted donations have a look at Claire's very well-written blog post, &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; at the comments below it. Other good sources are &lt;a href="http://informationincontext.typepad.com/good_intentions_are_not_e/2010/01/6-questions-you-should-ask-before-donating-goods-overseas.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; at Saundra Schimmelpfennig's blog &lt;em&gt;Good intentions are not enough&lt;/em&gt;; and &lt;a href="http://aidwatchers.com/2010/01/nobody-wants-your-old-shoes-how-not-to-help-in-haiti/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this guest post&lt;/a&gt; by Alanna Shaikh on &lt;em&gt;Aid Watch&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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Thanks, Claire! As you can imagine, I totally agree with you concerning unwanted donations. I have written a bit before about the challenges of <a href="http://michaelkeizer.com/humourless/2010/the-challenge-of-reverse-logistics-in-global-health/" rel="nofollow">reverse logistics in aid</a>, and I am sure I will give it more attention in the future. In the mean time, I would recommend that everybody who is interested in the issues around unwanted donations have a look at Claire&#8217;s very well-written blog post, <em>and</em> at the comments below it. Other good sources are <a href="http://informationincontext.typepad.com/good_intentions_are_not_e/2010/01/6-questions-you-should-ask-before-donating-goods-overseas.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> at Saundra Schimmelpfennig&#8217;s blog <em>Good intentions are not enough</em>; and <a href="http://aidwatchers.com/2010/01/nobody-wants-your-old-shoes-how-not-to-help-in-haiti/" rel="nofollow">this guest post</a> by Alanna Shaikh on <em>Aid Watch</em>.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great piece, very well written.  I am a logistician myself working in disaster management.  I feel very strongly about the harm that sending unwanted goods to a disaster zone does.  It's really great that people want to help but you have to have worked there to really realise why it is actually a hinderance.  I've written more about it in my blog http://blogs.redcross.org.uk/emergencies/2010/01/help-not-hinder-haiti/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great piece, very well written.  I am a logistician myself working in disaster management.  I feel very strongly about the harm that sending unwanted goods to a disaster zone does.  It&#8217;s really great that people want to help but you have to have worked there to really realise why it is actually a hinderance.  I&#8217;ve written more about it in my blog <a href="http://blogs.redcross.org.uk/emergencies/2010/01/help-not-hinder-haiti/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.redcross.org.uk/emergencies/2010/01/help-not-hinder-haiti/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Complicating a numbers game: SAR, emergency preparedness, and how we should spend our resources by Michael Keizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-19455" rel="nofollow"&gt;@cynan_sez &lt;/a&gt; 
Actually, it looks like the issue is getting some traction: http://alertnet.org/db/blogs/60725/2010/00/25-164739-1.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-19455" rel="nofollow">@cynan_sez </a><br />
Actually, it looks like the issue is getting some traction: <a href="http://alertnet.org/db/blogs/60725/2010/00/25-164739-1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://alertnet.org/db/blogs/60725/2010/00/25-164739-1.htm</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Keizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-19211" rel="nofollow"&gt;@cynan_sez &lt;/a&gt; 
Luckily, we are &lt;a href="http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/the-disaster-pool" title="The Disaster Pool ! The New Republic" rel="nofollow"&gt;not alone in our call for more coordination for the press&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-19211" rel="nofollow">@cynan_sez </a><br />
Luckily, we are <a href="http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/the-disaster-pool" title="The Disaster Pool ! The New Republic" rel="nofollow">not alone in our call for more coordination for the press</a>.</p>
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