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	<description>A blog for academic job seekers - Career Sense helps academics on the job hunt</description>
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		<title>Comment on Job satisfaction in academe: who are the “lucky ones”? by james</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/job-satisfaction-in-academe-who-are-the-lucky-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-13249</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 00:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found this blog and I'm excited to look around.  I run a blog about my search for an alternative career after deciding not to do a Ph.D. in English (selloutyoursoul.com)...looks like there is some great content here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this blog and I&#8217;m excited to look around.  I run a blog about my search for an alternative career after deciding not to do a Ph.D. in English (selloutyoursoul.com)&#8230;looks like there is some great content here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A letter to the Ontario Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities by Fritz</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/a-letter-to-the-ontario-minister-of-training-colleges-and-universities/comment-page-1/#comment-11478</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn thank you for your posts, I would just like to add a few more key points surrounding your argument:

- Most undergrads simply would accept any job to start paying off already massive debts, regardless of how irrelevant the job is to their field of study.

- A fair number of the graduate students consist the very undergraduates who had little hope of getting a decent job with their undergraduate degree.

- Little focus on multidisciplinary development programs on campuses leaves many graduates highly specialized and unaware of potential opportunities in related fields.

- There is little to no incentive for student to independently pursue entrepreneurial initiatives in social development, start-ups, public policy or innovation and technology at the start up level. This leaves highly ambitious and skilled graduates at the mercy of corporates whose primary objectives of making more money often disregards many core values these students are thought in schools for almost two decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn thank you for your posts, I would just like to add a few more key points surrounding your argument:</p>
<p>- Most undergrads simply would accept any job to start paying off already massive debts, regardless of how irrelevant the job is to their field of study.</p>
<p>- A fair number of the graduate students consist the very undergraduates who had little hope of getting a decent job with their undergraduate degree.</p>
<p>- Little focus on multidisciplinary development programs on campuses leaves many graduates highly specialized and unaware of potential opportunities in related fields.</p>
<p>- There is little to no incentive for student to independently pursue entrepreneurial initiatives in social development, start-ups, public policy or innovation and technology at the start up level. This leaves highly ambitious and skilled graduates at the mercy of corporates whose primary objectives of making more money often disregards many core values these students are thought in schools for almost two decades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tips for overcoming an experience-gap by S Chakrabarti</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/tips-for-overcoming-an-experience-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-8821</link>
		<dc:creator>S Chakrabarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice to a highly qualified prospective immigrant ! Welcome to Canada !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice to a highly qualified prospective immigrant ! Welcome to Canada !!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Andria Bianchi</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-4338</link>
		<dc:creator>Andria Bianchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 02:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carolyn,

I just finished the third year of my undergraduate degree. I am planning on applying to law school next year, and am somewhat concerned about asking my professors for reference letters in September. I was advised to approach professors who gave me an "A" in their class.

Considering I found out which classes I got an "A" in after the school year ended, I was wondering if it would be at all appropriate to e-mail a couple of professors now, rather than waiting until September. I've heard that most professors will only write one or two letters each year and I do not want to miss my opportunity by asking too late.

If you can provide me with some advice in regards to this situation, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank-you,

Andria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carolyn,</p>
<p>I just finished the third year of my undergraduate degree. I am planning on applying to law school next year, and am somewhat concerned about asking my professors for reference letters in September. I was advised to approach professors who gave me an &#8220;A&#8221; in their class.</p>
<p>Considering I found out which classes I got an &#8220;A&#8221; in after the school year ended, I was wondering if it would be at all appropriate to e-mail a couple of professors now, rather than waiting until September. I&#8217;ve heard that most professors will only write one or two letters each year and I do not want to miss my opportunity by asking too late.</p>
<p>If you can provide me with some advice in regards to this situation, I would greatly appreciate it.</p>
<p>Thank-you,</p>
<p>Andria</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3990</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read your blogs since almost the beginning, but as an up-and-coming academic, I haven't posted and wanted to see what others would say... including you!

I don't believe that the number of comments on any particular blog should be of concern as I think that is growth happening for all of us that read this blog!  I know it's helped me... although sometimes I didn't always agree (jobs outside the academy aren't all they're cracked up to be!).

It's a shame that you won't continue to provide insight and knowledge!!

Angela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read your blogs since almost the beginning, but as an up-and-coming academic, I haven&#8217;t posted and wanted to see what others would say&#8230; including you!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the number of comments on any particular blog should be of concern as I think that is growth happening for all of us that read this blog!  I know it&#8217;s helped me&#8230; although sometimes I didn&#8217;t always agree (jobs outside the academy aren&#8217;t all they&#8217;re cracked up to be!).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that you won&#8217;t continue to provide insight and knowledge!!</p>
<p>Angela</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Tara Fraser - UA Web Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3965</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara Fraser - UA Web Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Subhadeep!

We have launched a University Affairs Facebook page. Check it out here: &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-Affairs-Affaires-universitaires/357112594787" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-Affairs-Affaires-universitaires/357112594787&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Subhadeep!</p>
<p>We have launched a University Affairs Facebook page. Check it out here: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-Affairs-Affaires-universitaires/357112594787" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-Affairs-Affaires-universitaires/357112594787</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Subhadeep Chakrabarti</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator>Subhadeep Chakrabarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a postdoc who enjoys working in academia, I have often followed the blogs on UA and I will be sorry to see Career Sense disappear. Regarding the lack of input, I have found that most grad students and postdocs are quite unaware of UA and its blogs!
Facebook group linked to UA might be a far better alternative, given the ubiquitous presence of FB amongst the junior researcher community.
Thanks for sharing the insights and good luck !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a postdoc who enjoys working in academia, I have often followed the blogs on UA and I will be sorry to see Career Sense disappear. Regarding the lack of input, I have found that most grad students and postdocs are quite unaware of UA and its blogs!<br />
Facebook group linked to UA might be a far better alternative, given the ubiquitous presence of FB amongst the junior researcher community.<br />
Thanks for sharing the insights and good luck !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by polcanprof</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3909</link>
		<dc:creator>polcanprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having recently started my own blog, I'm sorry to hear this and embarrassed that I wasn't a more regular reader and contributor here.  It can be hard to start a buzz.

But I don't think a Chronicle comparison is valid here, especially if we assume their readership is about ten times that of University Affairs, and they are able to put up lots of new content every day and by many different contributors.  That's what creates their lively commenting culture - not American brashness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently started my own blog, I&#8217;m sorry to hear this and embarrassed that I wasn&#8217;t a more regular reader and contributor here.  It can be hard to start a buzz.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think a Chronicle comparison is valid here, especially if we assume their readership is about ten times that of University Affairs, and they are able to put up lots of new content every day and by many different contributors.  That&#8217;s what creates their lively commenting culture &#8211; not American brashness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Karen Quinn Fung</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3775</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Quinn Fung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll echo the sentiments of disappointment at the closing down of the blog. The value of your archives (which hopefully you will keep up) will stand the test of time, I'm sure, for those stumbling across through search results. Even if Canadians aren't by there nature as willing to have these conversations on the open Internet, the fact that someone did was a step in the right direction as far as my opinion goes. As someone who's always felt a little out of sorts in academia, it was always nice to know there was someplace in my RSS reader I could turn to empathize.

All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo the sentiments of disappointment at the closing down of the blog. The value of your archives (which hopefully you will keep up) will stand the test of time, I&#8217;m sure, for those stumbling across through search results. Even if Canadians aren&#8217;t by there nature as willing to have these conversations on the open Internet, the fact that someone did was a step in the right direction as far as my opinion goes. As someone who&#8217;s always felt a little out of sorts in academia, it was always nice to know there was someplace in my RSS reader I could turn to empathize.</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Jer</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd have to agree with Rohan here. If I'd counted the worth of my blog or podcast in comments, I'd have stopped years ago. It'd be a shame if that was the primary factor in closing down this venue. I really enjoyed your comments, and found them particularly valuable at this stage in my relationship with academia. I didn't comment much, once to be precise, but that has nothing to do with how valuable I found the resource to be.

All the best with your dissertation. I'm gonna get back to mine (hmmm...thinking about it now...maybe I'll comment more when my diss is done!)

Best of luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with Rohan here. If I&#8217;d counted the worth of my blog or podcast in comments, I&#8217;d have stopped years ago. It&#8217;d be a shame if that was the primary factor in closing down this venue. I really enjoyed your comments, and found them particularly valuable at this stage in my relationship with academia. I didn&#8217;t comment much, once to be precise, but that has nothing to do with how valuable I found the resource to be.</p>
<p>All the best with your dissertation. I&#8217;m gonna get back to mine (hmmm&#8230;thinking about it now&#8230;maybe I&#8217;ll comment more when my diss is done!)</p>
<p>Best of luck</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Dr.Doinglittle</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Doinglittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is too bad.  Such a space for discussing the job market in higher education is sorely needed in Canada, much like they have the US with the Chronicle of Higher Education.  Thanks for your posts and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too bad.  Such a space for discussing the job market in higher education is sorely needed in Canada, much like they have the US with the Chronicle of Higher Education.  Thanks for your posts and good luck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Rohan Maitzen</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3635</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Maitzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most bloggers would say that counting comments is not the best way to measure either value or impact, but in general, the blogging 'culture' in Canada (including, but not just, academic blogging) so far lags behind the US, I think. Links to other related blogs (there are many US bloggers who write about academic issues, for instance, including the job search and its frustrations, and the move to non-academic careers as well) and a robust blogroll can be helpful in building up that kind of engaged community. I have noticed that a lot of blogs started up under 'professional' publication banners don't make those kinds of connections and thus end up looking (and thus being treated) more like regular columns than participatory forums. In any case, I'm sure many people have found your posts valuable. Good luck with the dissertating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most bloggers would say that counting comments is not the best way to measure either value or impact, but in general, the blogging &#8216;culture&#8217; in Canada (including, but not just, academic blogging) so far lags behind the US, I think. Links to other related blogs (there are many US bloggers who write about academic issues, for instance, including the job search and its frustrations, and the move to non-academic careers as well) and a robust blogroll can be helpful in building up that kind of engaged community. I have noticed that a lot of blogs started up under &#8216;professional&#8217; publication banners don&#8217;t make those kinds of connections and thus end up looking (and thus being treated) more like regular columns than participatory forums. In any case, I&#8217;m sure many people have found your posts valuable. Good luck with the dissertating!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3634</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no! My colleagues and I will certainly miss your blog. While few of us actually contributed to the comments section, we had many conversations prompted by your entries. The value of the blog shouldn't be measured by the number of direct comments along. 

As someone who moved from academia to the non-profit world, I now feel guilty about not contributing some observations about my very successful transition.

Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no! My colleagues and I will certainly miss your blog. While few of us actually contributed to the comments section, we had many conversations prompted by your entries. The value of the blog shouldn&#8217;t be measured by the number of direct comments along. </p>
<p>As someone who moved from academia to the non-profit world, I now feel guilty about not contributing some observations about my very successful transition.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Career Sense signs off – the last post by Noel Semple</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/signing-off/comment-page-1/#comment-3633</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Semple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to hear of the demise of Career Sense. Thank you for the many insightful and enjoyable columns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to hear of the demise of Career Sense. Thank you for the many insightful and enjoyable columns!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year – a new perspective on the job market! by Carolyn (Career Sense)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn (Career Sense)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed - all of these suggestions have implications for some  people more than others. This is the nature of careers - one size doesn't fit all. The main point not to be missed is that there are ways of finding or creating something positive out of a situation most agree is less than ideal, if not abyssmal. People who take the time to find a way of growing regardless of circumstances over which they have no control are much more likely to stay sane and even thrive. 
I presented a range of options in the hopes that at least one would opened up a possibility to diversereaders at a time when most of the discourse around the econmy was pretty gloomy - c'est tout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed &#8211; all of these suggestions have implications for some  people more than others. This is the nature of careers &#8211; one size doesn&#8217;t fit all. The main point not to be missed is that there are ways of finding or creating something positive out of a situation most agree is less than ideal, if not abyssmal. People who take the time to find a way of growing regardless of circumstances over which they have no control are much more likely to stay sane and even thrive.<br />
I presented a range of options in the hopes that at least one would opened up a possibility to diversereaders at a time when most of the discourse around the econmy was pretty gloomy &#8211; c&#8217;est tout!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year – a new perspective on the job market! by Dr.Doinglittle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Doinglittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>points 1-3 also also have implications for people in relationships.  Taking extra time to finish wreaks havoc on couples, especially when one person is supporting another to pursue academia.  After 6-7 years of study, taking an extra year to finish is not advice I'd give to anyone unless they have an extraordinarily understanding partner.  

Why not suggest people take time in the year to find ways to expedite completion of their degree (i.e. shorter dissertations, focussed research questions, etc)?  The faster one finishes the faster they can get on the market or move into a more promising non-university career track.  For those 2/3 of grads who never land TT jobs, taking extra time to finish a degree that leads nowhere really is time wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>points 1-3 also also have implications for people in relationships.  Taking extra time to finish wreaks havoc on couples, especially when one person is supporting another to pursue academia.  After 6-7 years of study, taking an extra year to finish is not advice I&#8217;d give to anyone unless they have an extraordinarily understanding partner.  </p>
<p>Why not suggest people take time in the year to find ways to expedite completion of their degree (i.e. shorter dissertations, focussed research questions, etc)?  The faster one finishes the faster they can get on the market or move into a more promising non-university career track.  For those 2/3 of grads who never land TT jobs, taking extra time to finish a degree that leads nowhere really is time wasted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year – a new perspective on the job market! by Carolyn Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having raised 5 children, mostly on my own, throughout my PhDs (I'm ABD in one field and PhD5 in my current program), I understand your challenges. I also admit that the bias in this post is towards the more traditional student without such concerns. 
I practice, in so far as I can, many of these suggestions. In fact, for someone like yourself, it is way to easy to feel like you 'can't' do anything that isn't directly related to completing quickly, making money and strengthening your CV. 
But it is perhaps more important for people with other obligations like children to have a realistic plan B, and to have something to do to get away from the grind - a nurture a new or favorite skill, a hobby - anything done for no other reason than we want to. 
Me, I lift weights and indulge my technogeek habits occasionally. It provides a little balance in what can feel like an otherwise really unbalanced period of my life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having raised 5 children, mostly on my own, throughout my PhDs (I&#8217;m ABD in one field and PhD5 in my current program), I understand your challenges. I also admit that the bias in this post is towards the more traditional student without such concerns.<br />
I practice, in so far as I can, many of these suggestions. In fact, for someone like yourself, it is way to easy to feel like you &#8216;can&#8217;t&#8217; do anything that isn&#8217;t directly related to completing quickly, making money and strengthening your CV.<br />
But it is perhaps more important for people with other obligations like children to have a realistic plan B, and to have something to do to get away from the grind &#8211; a nurture a new or favorite skill, a hobby &#8211; anything done for no other reason than we want to.<br />
Me, I lift weights and indulge my technogeek habits occasionally. It provides a little balance in what can feel like an otherwise really unbalanced period of my life</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year – a new perspective on the job market! by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/a-new-year-a-new-perspective-on-the-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-3043</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For older students with children and mortgages, these are not options.  The fact that I work, manage my family, and face my dissertation are scary enough without thinking about not working and not having enough money for anything!  Or paying for conferences that are great for networking but don't really do much for my c.v.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For older students with children and mortgages, these are not options.  The fact that I work, manage my family, and face my dissertation are scary enough without thinking about not working and not having enough money for anything!  Or paying for conferences that are great for networking but don&#8217;t really do much for my c.v.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Carolyn Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine - great question! As a Masters student considering a PhD program, I think its safe to assume you have done very well in your classes. This alone will raise your professors' awareness of you. 

It is also a good idea to actively foster a relationship with professors you would consider asking for letters of support by attending their office hours and discussing your research questions and plans with them It doesn't need to take alot of time, and most profs are delighted to speak with serious students. 

Your profs can also be excellent sources of information about good schools in your field and may even be able to provide introductions to colleagues at prospective schools for you to contact and beging 'conversing' with online prior to submitting an application. This will increase your chances of finding a program that is a good fit for your research interests. It can also increase your chances of getting into a program if you can show that you have shared research interests with their faculty. 

If you are serious about applying to a PhD program, it is very important that you make the time to develop relationships with faculty - make it a priority!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine &#8211; great question! As a Masters student considering a PhD program, I think its safe to assume you have done very well in your classes. This alone will raise your professors&#8217; awareness of you. </p>
<p>It is also a good idea to actively foster a relationship with professors you would consider asking for letters of support by attending their office hours and discussing your research questions and plans with them It doesn&#8217;t need to take alot of time, and most profs are delighted to speak with serious students. </p>
<p>Your profs can also be excellent sources of information about good schools in your field and may even be able to provide introductions to colleagues at prospective schools for you to contact and beging &#8216;conversing&#8217; with online prior to submitting an application. This will increase your chances of finding a program that is a good fit for your research interests. It can also increase your chances of getting into a program if you can show that you have shared research interests with their faculty. </p>
<p>If you are serious about applying to a PhD program, it is very important that you make the time to develop relationships with faculty &#8211; make it a priority!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-2173</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear sir/madam,

Hello! I am a student in my second year of master degree. I'd like to ask about who to be invited as referee.

As my master degree is a part-time one, most of us only get evening classes once or twice a week. We have different professors for different courses, and some courses even get two professors to share the whole course. As a result, the time of interaction between professors and individual student is very limited. And some classes are very large comprising of more than 50 students, so the professors may not even have chance to recognize any individual student.

So, I'd very much like to ask, in such a case, it is very difficult for me to find a suitable referee to invite. Then, what shall I do?

Thank you for your kind attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sir/madam,</p>
<p>Hello! I am a student in my second year of master degree. I&#8217;d like to ask about who to be invited as referee.</p>
<p>As my master degree is a part-time one, most of us only get evening classes once or twice a week. We have different professors for different courses, and some courses even get two professors to share the whole course. As a result, the time of interaction between professors and individual student is very limited. And some classes are very large comprising of more than 50 students, so the professors may not even have chance to recognize any individual student.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;d very much like to ask, in such a case, it is very difficult for me to find a suitable referee to invite. Then, what shall I do?</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind attention.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Count von Letters</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>Count von Letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Provided you are in good terms with your employer, it may be a good idea ti to write a suggested reference letter, containing the information that is most valuable to you, and let the employer edit it. I have done on several occasions, and the employers have actually just recopied my letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Provided you are in good terms with your employer, it may be a good idea ti to write a suggested reference letter, containing the information that is most valuable to you, and let the employer edit it. I have done on several occasions, and the employers have actually just recopied my letter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Carolyn (Career Sense)</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn (Career Sense)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your points are well taken, reference letters are only one element of an application package, but in a tight competition, which is more likely in a market like the current one, small discrepancies may carry more wieght than usual when it comes to differentiating otherwise stellar candidates. 

This point was raised in a recent article in The Chronicle http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Recommendation-Letters/20860/?sid=at&amp;utm_source=at&amp;utm_medium=en

Your idea of the impact the opinions of referees has and at what point they should be introduced into the process is an interesting one. I can see how it might streamline the process for committees, but would it be as beneficial for the applicants I wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your points are well taken, reference letters are only one element of an application package, but in a tight competition, which is more likely in a market like the current one, small discrepancies may carry more wieght than usual when it comes to differentiating otherwise stellar candidates. </p>
<p>This point was raised in a recent article in The Chronicle <a href="http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Recommendation-Letters/20860/?sid=at&#038;utm_source=at&#038;utm_medium=en" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Recommendation-Letters/20860/?sid=at&#038;utm_source=at&#038;utm_medium=en</a></p>
<p>Your idea of the impact the opinions of referees has and at what point they should be introduced into the process is an interesting one. I can see how it might streamline the process for committees, but would it be as beneficial for the applicants I wonder.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An open forum for advice on reference letters by Dr.Doinglittle</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/an-open-forum-for-advice-on-reference-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-2014</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Doinglittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think that applicants are led to believe that reference letters are far more important that they actually are in hiring decisions.  I appreciate the advice being provided here but articles like this help perpetuate the myth that the perfect reference letter will land you a job.  My experience on hiring committees is that reference letters are really just a formality.  A bad letter can certainly sink an application in some cases, but positive letters - whether glowing or mildly supportive - seem to be given the same value in a person's overall application package, which is not much.  A person's CV, research interests, political leaning, teaching record, ethnicity/gender, personality - these are the things that matter in the end, especially once you reach the interview stage.

Also, a bigger issue for many is how to get reference letters at all.  Some faculty will get 5-10 requests for letters from students applying for the same job.  I know some faculty who have a policy of writing 2 letters max for any given job.  This usually means they will only write letters for their own supervised PhD students and everyone else is SOL.  On the other hand, other faculty will write an unlimited number of letters, which can have the effect of watering down the value for all.

I would like to see universities adopt a more standardized and fair way of getting references - one that reflects the reality that many jobs receive well over a hundred applicants, all of whom have to get letters from the same small cadre of faculty. I think it'd be better if contacts for three references would have to be listed on your CV  - these would only by contacted after a shortlist has been created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think that applicants are led to believe that reference letters are far more important that they actually are in hiring decisions.  I appreciate the advice being provided here but articles like this help perpetuate the myth that the perfect reference letter will land you a job.  My experience on hiring committees is that reference letters are really just a formality.  A bad letter can certainly sink an application in some cases, but positive letters &#8211; whether glowing or mildly supportive &#8211; seem to be given the same value in a person&#8217;s overall application package, which is not much.  A person&#8217;s CV, research interests, political leaning, teaching record, ethnicity/gender, personality &#8211; these are the things that matter in the end, especially once you reach the interview stage.</p>
<p>Also, a bigger issue for many is how to get reference letters at all.  Some faculty will get 5-10 requests for letters from students applying for the same job.  I know some faculty who have a policy of writing 2 letters max for any given job.  This usually means they will only write letters for their own supervised PhD students and everyone else is SOL.  On the other hand, other faculty will write an unlimited number of letters, which can have the effect of watering down the value for all.</p>
<p>I would like to see universities adopt a more standardized and fair way of getting references &#8211; one that reflects the reality that many jobs receive well over a hundred applicants, all of whom have to get letters from the same small cadre of faculty. I think it&#8217;d be better if contacts for three references would have to be listed on your CV  &#8211; these would only by contacted after a shortlist has been created.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linking into academe: getting started by Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/linking-into-academe-getting-started/comment-page-1/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its good you've mentioned cestagi. I found cestagi tailored more towads the academic community while linkedin towards the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its good you&#8217;ve mentioned cestagi. I found cestagi tailored more towads the academic community while linkedin towards the industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avoiding the ‘C’ word in academe – ‘career’ by Dr.Doinglittle</title>
		<link>http://www.universityaffairs.ca/career-sense/avoiding-the-c-word-in-academe-career/comment-page-1/#comment-1982</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Doinglittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is bang on - the relationship between profession and career is indeed dysfunctional.  Profs really have no clue what the marketability of grad degrees are yet so many encourage students to pursue grad degrees under false pretenses about the marketability of their degrees.

Talking about career options (basically anything other than a professor position) is like talking about failing.  Career is a dirty word in academia because the reality is a dirty secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is bang on &#8211; the relationship between profession and career is indeed dysfunctional.  Profs really have no clue what the marketability of grad degrees are yet so many encourage students to pursue grad degrees under false pretenses about the marketability of their degrees.</p>
<p>Talking about career options (basically anything other than a professor position) is like talking about failing.  Career is a dirty word in academia because the reality is a dirty secret.</p>
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