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		<title>Comment on Avimor Faces Dismal Future by Kappa TA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kappa TA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more information about the sale of Avimor PC, check out Ada County BOCC Resolution No. 1666 (amends a portion of Resolution No. 1654), on the Feb. 23 agenda.  SunCor was given a 30-day extension for the sale of Avimor to J.F. Shea Co., Inc. of California. The extension expires March 31. I hope Rosa or Robert is still employed! Despite what you think of the development, SunCor employed some outstanding people. I wish them luck. Everybody, including us common folk, over-extended and thought the world would be our oyster. Unfortunately many of us got shucked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more information about the sale of Avimor PC, check out Ada County BOCC Resolution No. 1666 (amends a portion of Resolution No. 1654), on the Feb. 23 agenda.  SunCor was given a 30-day extension for the sale of Avimor to J.F. Shea Co., Inc. of California. The extension expires March 31. I hope Rosa or Robert is still employed! Despite what you think of the development, SunCor employed some outstanding people. I wish them luck. Everybody, including us common folk, over-extended and thought the world would be our oyster. Unfortunately many of us got shucked!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liquid Lunch Creates Ada Job Openings by Kappa TA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kappa TA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Fair Board Manager still employed by Ada County after being arrested recently for an alleged DUI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Fair Board Manager still employed by Ada County after being arrested recently for an alleged DUI?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avimor Faces Dismal Future by Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not that Avimor failed.  The problem is that Avimor, and others like it, exist.  

The oversupply of real estate by fools like this drive down the price, and therefore the equity, of every other home in the area.  Theirs, yours, and mine.  Our equity will not return until the market comes back into balance.  That will take long enough by itself.  The fact that the idiots running the various P&amp;Z office around the area keep approving more and more of these debacles, in a misguided attempt to re-inflate the bubble, just exacerbates the problem and lengthens the recovery time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not that Avimor failed.  The problem is that Avimor, and others like it, exist.  </p>
<p>The oversupply of real estate by fools like this drive down the price, and therefore the equity, of every other home in the area.  Theirs, yours, and mine.  Our equity will not return until the market comes back into balance.  That will take long enough by itself.  The fact that the idiots running the various P&amp;Z office around the area keep approving more and more of these debacles, in a misguided attempt to re-inflate the bubble, just exacerbates the problem and lengthens the recovery time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liquid Lunch Creates Ada Job Openings by cyclops</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyclops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they were having a late lunch with the CCDC dudes at the Arid club!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they were having a late lunch with the CCDC dudes at the Arid club!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avimor Faces Dismal Future by Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two or three months ago Mr. Ricter, Suncor's local director, testified on behalf of the neighboring PC applicant, Dry Creek Ranch.  During his testimony, in response to a detractor citing Avimor as being one of the many failed local PCs, Mr. Ricter said the sale of Avimor was complete and sales were picking up.

PC Developer = Liar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two or three months ago Mr. Ricter, Suncor&#8217;s local director, testified on behalf of the neighboring PC applicant, Dry Creek Ranch.  During his testimony, in response to a detractor citing Avimor as being one of the many failed local PCs, Mr. Ricter said the sale of Avimor was complete and sales were picking up.</p>
<p>PC Developer = Liar</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avimor Faces Dismal Future by Snoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure surprised to see how delighted you are that people all over the Treasure Valley are losing their jobs because of the housing market. Our current market is what "no growth" gets you. I think you are definitely in the minority of people that like the way things are going right now.

EDITOR NOTE--No delight, just hate to see an economy built on GROWTH, because it is bound to fail.  AVIMOR, TAMARACK, CLIFFS, were all bound to fail because they didn't have the up front cash to do as they promised.  We predict the same for the one in Garden Valley as well.  See next comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure surprised to see how delighted you are that people all over the Treasure Valley are losing their jobs because of the housing market. Our current market is what &#8220;no growth&#8221; gets you. I think you are definitely in the minority of people that like the way things are going right now.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;No delight, just hate to see an economy built on GROWTH, because it is bound to fail.  AVIMOR, TAMARACK, CLIFFS, were all bound to fail because they didn&#8217;t have the up front cash to do as they promised.  We predict the same for the one in Garden Valley as well.  See next comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avimor Faces Dismal Future by Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is the one employee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the one employee?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boise Joins Growthophobe Movement, GUARDIAN Offers “Back Story” by Dean Gunderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Gunderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone could point out to me where Idaho's Land Use Planning Act says (or even implies) that urban development MUST occur inside a pre-existing urban area, or where the LLUPA states that floating zones (in essence, what the PC Zone operates as) is prohibited, I'd be happy to consent to Tony Jones' assertion that Planned Communities shouldn't occur outside a city's Area of City Impact. 

A PC in Ada County is intended to operate as a starter city. In fact, once a PC acquires more than a small number of qualified electors as residents -- they can begin the process of incorporation (even if it is over the developer's objections). A PC's development and regulating plans are all that are needed to qualify as a new city's Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance. And a PC's financial plan is more operational than most of those found in the existing cities in Ada County. Some of the proposed PC developers even planned to push for incorporation as soon as possible. I suspect just to get out from under the required biennial County development review all PC's are required to undergo. No other development type in the region is subject to as much scrutiny, or have as many conditions of development placed upon its fiscal solvency.

The purpose of regional planning is to encourage reasonable and fiscally sound development that contains the cost of tax &amp; fee supported public services. The PC Ordinance is only one tool that does so, by tying the permissible development of internal phases of the PC to fiscal benchmarks. The PC Ordinance, and the number of private developers who appeared interested in submitting such an application, had a curious (and not altogether unpredicted) effect within the existing cities in Ada County. They began to seriously look at ways to better serve the  taxpayers within their respective boundaries. It also kept them at the table as the region tried to forge a new future through the Communities In Motion (Long Range Regional Transportation Plan) and the Blueprint for Good Growth.

Without the pressure of the "Barbarians at the Gate", it would have been extremely unlikely that the six cities, ITD, VRT, and the Ada County Highway District would have gotten as far as they did through the process. And, there would have been significantly fewer people showing up at the various public planning meetings.

Since all the hubbub regarding PC's started around 2004, the only one still building is the only one that existed before 2004 -- Hidden Springs. And, even Hidden Springs wouldn't have been approved under the revised PC Ordinance used to approve The Cliffs. And, not a dime of existing taxpayer money was spent reviewing the applications. Unlike all the over-built subdivisions developed within the cities during the bubble, the PC's impacts were contained to the developer alone -- and if they failed to build on the approved schedule they surrender their provisional land entitlements. Unfortunately, this can't be said of all the excess Sprawl parcels approved by the cities in Ada &amp; Canyon Counties during the same timeframe. We will all be paying for those approvals for years to come.

As far as I am concerned, I was happy to play my small part as the "aggressor" since I knew that the supposed threat of the PC's (which could become their own cities, with their own Areas of City Impact) would keep the existing cities in the region at the table to forge the Communities In Motion Plan -- and provide support to ACHD to help it develop its Livable Streets Design Guide. 

These two achievements cannot be separated from the PC discussion. In fact, few of the meetings for either the CIM or BGG happened without the obligatory railing against Ada County and its contemptable stance on PC's. 

My only regrets are that we couldn't keep the pressure up long enough to force meaningful concessions on regional Agricultural &amp; Open Space protection, or achieve some kind of sensical ITD stance on getting developers to pay for their impacts on the State highway system, or get Canyon County to the Blueprint negotiation table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone could point out to me where Idaho&#8217;s Land Use Planning Act says (or even implies) that urban development MUST occur inside a pre-existing urban area, or where the LLUPA states that floating zones (in essence, what the PC Zone operates as) is prohibited, I&#8217;d be happy to consent to Tony Jones&#8217; assertion that Planned Communities shouldn&#8217;t occur outside a city&#8217;s Area of City Impact. </p>
<p>A PC in Ada County is intended to operate as a starter city. In fact, once a PC acquires more than a small number of qualified electors as residents &#8212; they can begin the process of incorporation (even if it is over the developer&#8217;s objections). A PC&#8217;s development and regulating plans are all that are needed to qualify as a new city&#8217;s Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance. And a PC&#8217;s financial plan is more operational than most of those found in the existing cities in Ada County. Some of the proposed PC developers even planned to push for incorporation as soon as possible. I suspect just to get out from under the required biennial County development review all PC&#8217;s are required to undergo. No other development type in the region is subject to as much scrutiny, or have as many conditions of development placed upon its fiscal solvency.</p>
<p>The purpose of regional planning is to encourage reasonable and fiscally sound development that contains the cost of tax &amp; fee supported public services. The PC Ordinance is only one tool that does so, by tying the permissible development of internal phases of the PC to fiscal benchmarks. The PC Ordinance, and the number of private developers who appeared interested in submitting such an application, had a curious (and not altogether unpredicted) effect within the existing cities in Ada County. They began to seriously look at ways to better serve the  taxpayers within their respective boundaries. It also kept them at the table as the region tried to forge a new future through the Communities In Motion (Long Range Regional Transportation Plan) and the Blueprint for Good Growth.</p>
<p>Without the pressure of the &#8220;Barbarians at the Gate&#8221;, it would have been extremely unlikely that the six cities, ITD, VRT, and the Ada County Highway District would have gotten as far as they did through the process. And, there would have been significantly fewer people showing up at the various public planning meetings.</p>
<p>Since all the hubbub regarding PC&#8217;s started around 2004, the only one still building is the only one that existed before 2004 &#8212; Hidden Springs. And, even Hidden Springs wouldn&#8217;t have been approved under the revised PC Ordinance used to approve The Cliffs. And, not a dime of existing taxpayer money was spent reviewing the applications. Unlike all the over-built subdivisions developed within the cities during the bubble, the PC&#8217;s impacts were contained to the developer alone &#8212; and if they failed to build on the approved schedule they surrender their provisional land entitlements. Unfortunately, this can&#8217;t be said of all the excess Sprawl parcels approved by the cities in Ada &amp; Canyon Counties during the same timeframe. We will all be paying for those approvals for years to come.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, I was happy to play my small part as the &#8220;aggressor&#8221; since I knew that the supposed threat of the PC&#8217;s (which could become their own cities, with their own Areas of City Impact) would keep the existing cities in the region at the table to forge the Communities In Motion Plan &#8212; and provide support to ACHD to help it develop its Livable Streets Design Guide. </p>
<p>These two achievements cannot be separated from the PC discussion. In fact, few of the meetings for either the CIM or BGG happened without the obligatory railing against Ada County and its contemptable stance on PC&#8217;s. </p>
<p>My only regrets are that we couldn&#8217;t keep the pressure up long enough to force meaningful concessions on regional Agricultural &amp; Open Space protection, or achieve some kind of sensical ITD stance on getting developers to pay for their impacts on the State highway system, or get Canyon County to the Blueprint negotiation table.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liquid Lunch Creates Ada Job Openings by Just One More</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just One More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compared to past DS dismissals, this almost rates as honorable discharge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compared to past DS dismissals, this almost rates as honorable discharge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emergency Texters, A National Issue by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have laptops in all of our fire apparatus, rescue and  command vehicles. The crews use them to gather gis data,gps data, weather data, incident information ect, vital info while responding to an incident. The Engine Captains or backseaters use the laptops, the driver never does unless while the vehicle is stopped. Besides the laptops the Engine Captain also have multi-channel radios, blackberries, pda's, cell phones, satelite phones that keep them occupied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have laptops in all of our fire apparatus, rescue and  command vehicles. The crews use them to gather gis data,gps data, weather data, incident information ect, vital info while responding to an incident. The Engine Captains or backseaters use the laptops, the driver never does unless while the vehicle is stopped. Besides the laptops the Engine Captain also have multi-channel radios, blackberries, pda&#8217;s, cell phones, satelite phones that keep them occupied.</p>
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