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		<description><![CDATA[With regard to my current series on the issue of Tradition, especially the Eastern concept of Tradition, here&#8217;s an interesting article with some helpful guidelines in considering something &#8211; like historic Christianity &#8211; which might be outside of your current box: Ten Steps to Avoiding Knee-Jerk Theology.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to my current series on the issue of Tradition, especially the Eastern concept of Tradition, here&#8217;s an interesting article with some helpful guidelines in considering something &#8211; like historic Christianity &#8211; which might be outside of your current box: <a title="Permanent Link: Ten Steps to Avoiding Knee-Jerk Theology" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/11/ten-steps-to-avoiding-knee-jerk-theology/">Ten Steps to Avoiding Knee-Jerk Theology</a>.</p>
<p>At first glance, this seemed like just another example of why evangelical theology is what it is, but then I realized that these points are, indeed, valid if we want to grow theologically.</p>
<p>[Note: the comments to the linked article provide a great example of why church Tradition is, indeed, of importance.]</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t read  Part One or Part 2 of this series, feel free to do that before continuing on.  These posts are the equivalent of my thinking out loud about the concepts of sola scriptura (the sole authority of the Bible) and Tradition (extra-Biblical teachings of a church that are held to be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t read  <a href="http://aldenswan.com/2009/10/rethinking-tradition-and-sola-scriptura/">Part One</a> or <a href="http://aldenswan.com/2009/11/rethinking-tradition-and-sola-scriptura-2/">Part 2</a> of this series, feel free to do that before continuing on.  These posts are the equivalent of my thinking out loud about the concepts of <em>sola scriptura</em> (the sole authority of the Bible) and Tradition (extra-Biblical teachings of a church that are held to be to some extent authoritative; this differs from &#8220;small t&#8221; tradition, which includes a number of cultural and ceremonial things that have significance, but aren&#8217;t considered either apostolic or authoritative).  I am undoubtedly wrong about some of my understanding and assumptions about various church traditions and doctrine, but such is life.  This is not an attempt to present a thesis on the issue, I&#8217;m just thinking things through and inviting you along.</p>
<p>In this post, I will try as best I can to outline some basic views of Tradition and authority, as I understand them.</p>
<p><strong>Evangelical</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Evangelical&#8221; is a rather broad category, and for the sake of this post it will refer to modern, non-liurgical churches.  Evangelicals have their various traditions. While they will claim that the Bible is their sole authority, their interpretations are often ruled by their particular tradition.  For example, one common tradition is Calvinism; those who are hard-core Calvinists will always read Scripture through Calvinism&#8217;s Five (or Four, if they&#8217;re wimps) Points of the TULIP.  Other churches have other traditions that filter how their folks interpret Scripture, and some &#8211; not unlike the 2nd Temple Jews &#8211; have added rules and regulations to Scripture such as Tithing, not having fun, and so on.</p>
<p>In general terms, the modern evangelical church takes an a-historical view of tradition; that is, the ancient faith &#8211; that known in the first few centuries A.D. &#8211; is interesting, but has no merit in terms of Biblical interpretation (unless someone wants to quote Athanasius in support of the Trinity).  I have heard it claimed that modern evangelicalism is the true faith of the Apostles and therefore has the true Apostolic Succession (the teaching of the Apostles, handed down without alteration).  If this is true, then evangelicals dismiss anything pre-Calvin (Luther tends to be dismissed as he wasn&#8217;t &#8220;protestant&#8221; enough, although people like the 95 Theses concept), with some exceptions for some of Augustine&#8217;s concepts and the concept of the Trinity.  As you may have guessed, I&#8217;ve already dismissed the claims of modern evangelicalism.</p>
<p><strong>Historic</strong></p>
<p>Those churches I have categorized as &#8220;historic&#8221; are those with an historic view of Tradition; basically the Eastern Orthodox Churches and to some extent the Roman Catholic Church.  I say &#8220;to some extent&#8221; as the RCC has, in my opinion, departed from the original view of Tradition and Apostolic Succession.</p>
<p>The historic view of Tradition understands that the Apostles instructed the 1st Century Church both orally and in writing, with oral instruction no less authoritative than written. Consider 2nd Thessalonians 2:15:</p>
<blockquote><p>So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.</p></blockquote>
<p>or 1st Corinthians 11:2:</p>
<blockquote><p><span>Now I praise you because you remember me in everything, and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Apostolic traditions were distinguished from &#8220;traditions of men&#8221; (Col. 2:8).   As I have mentioned in the prior posts, the &#8220;Word of God&#8221; is mentioned often in the Epistles, before the Gospels were thought to have been written.  It is obvious that the early, oral teaching of the Apostles was considered no less authoritative than the later written Epistles; and we know that not everything was written down.</p>
<p>Are we to then conclude that we are free to ignore those oral traditions held by the ancient church, while the Thessalonian and Corinthian Churches were instructed otherwise?   (Oh, well, when you put it <em>that</em> way&#8230;)</p>
<p><strong>Eastern Orthodox</strong></p>
<p>The Eastern Orthodox Church&#8217;s concept of Holy Tradition is possibly not what you think it is.  One description says it is, &#8220;the deposit of faith given by Jesus Christ to the Apostles and passed on in the Church from one generation to the next without addition, alteration or subtraction.&#8221;   The Orthodox, more than any other branch of Christianity, has maintained familiarity with the many other writings of the first few centuries of Christianity including 1st and 2nd Century writers like Clement, Polycarp, and Ignatius.  Polycarp, by the way, was a student of John (disciple and author of the Gospel), and knew others who had known Jesus personally; this is documented in writing (if that matters to you) by Irenaeus, who studied under Polycarp.</p>
<p>The Orthodox holds the Bible as the central, most important part of Apostolic authority.  Holy Tradition also includes the early Creeds (Apostles, Athanasius, Nicene), as well as the decisions made by the 7 Ecumenical Councils (of which Nicea was the 1st, in 325AD).  To the Orthodox, Tradition grounds them in the past and prevents drifting into heresy.  At the same time, the Orthodox have a very developed eschatology, so that they exist in the present, looking both to the past and to the future.</p>
<p>Of all of the branches of Christianity, the Orthodox are the least likely to change; the Divine Liturgy is essentially that written by St. Basil (shortened form by St. John Chrysostom) in the 4th Century.  There is certainly something to be said for having a good knowledge and record of the past (and a belief that this is the apostolic tradition that has been passed along).</p>
<p><strong>Roman Catholic</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really understand that much about the Roman Catholic concept of Authority, except that their concept of Apostolic Succession is more focused on the authority of men as opposed to the authority of the teaching.  At some point the Roman church developed the concept that Peter was in essence the first pope, and that apostolic succession was based in Rome; the Pope is considered &#8220;the vicar of Christ&#8221; and at times is infallible, the source of authority for the church.  In the beginning, the Roman Bishop was just one of 5; Rome, however, claimed primacy and the rest, as they say, is history.  The Roman church added 14 additional &#8220;ecumenical&#8221; councils to the original seven; apparently they redefined the word &#8220;ecumenical.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doctrines added by the RCC include the Immaculate Conception of Mary, adding the <em>filioque</em> clause to the Nicene Creed (in 1274), Papal Infallibility, the whole Purgatory and Indulgence thing, and so on.  The RCC also adopted doctrines originating with Augustine that in essence changed the Christian faith, adding the doctrine of original sin.</p>
<p><strong>Lutherans</strong></p>
<p>Luther, beginning with the sale of indulgences and the worship of relics and moving on to the obvious fallibility of the Pope, attempted to reform the church, bringing it back into line with the historic faith.  He even distanced himself from Augustine, to some extent.  As I mentioned before, Luther&#8217;s concept of <em>sola scriptura</em> was meant to strip away &#8220;doctrines of men&#8221; without tossing the original apostolic faith.</p>
<p><strong>Anglican</strong></p>
<p>The Church of England&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/faith/anglican/">website</a> states:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Scriptures and the Gospels, the Apostolic Church and the early Church Fathers, are the foundation of Anglican faith and worship in the 38 self-governing churches that make up the Anglican Communion. &#8230;<br />
</em></p>
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<li><em>We view the Old and New Testaments &#8216;as containing all things necessary for salvation&#8217; and as being the rule and ultimate standard of faith.</em></li>
<li><em>We understand the Apostles&#8217; creed as the baptismal symbol, and the Nicene creed as the sufficient statement of the Christian faith &#8230; </em></li>
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</blockquote>
<p>Anglicans trace their roots back to the early church, and &#8220;<em>uphold the Catholic and Apostolic faith</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>And so &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As you can see, there is a wide variety of thoughts as to the role of Tradition.  In my next post, I will attempt to explain my current thinking on the issue, if that is even possible &#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post, I discussed a few of the issues surrounding the concept of sola scriptura, that doctrinal authority is limited to that found in the Bible.  I discussed that the doctrine has evolved from its original intent into what could now be called &#8220;solo&#8221; scriptura &#8211; in other words, my interpretation is all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://aldenswan.com/2009/10/rethinking-tradition-and-sola-scriptura/">my last post</a>, I discussed a few of the issues surrounding the concept of <em>sola scriptura</em>, that doctrinal authority is limited to that found in the Bible.  I discussed that the doctrine has evolved from its original intent into what could now be called &#8220;solo&#8221; scriptura &#8211; in other words, my interpretation is all that matters.  Luther, however, understood the authority <em>behind</em> the Bible. While Luther did not have the benefit of the vast history of the Eastern Orthodox churches (very few of the early writings were available in Latin, much less German), he was still aware that the authority of Scripture depended upon the teaching of the Apostles. As I quoted,</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" lang="en-us">Whatever does not teach Christ is not ye</span><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" lang="en-us">t apostolic, even though St. Peter or St. Paul does the teaching. Again, whatever preaches Christ <span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">would be apostolic, even if Judas, Annas, Pilate, and Herod were doing it.</span></span></p></blockquote>
<p>For most modern evangelicals, tradition (regardless of whether it is capitalized or not) is thought of as the rumors, myths, hearsay, and old-wives tales of an ancient Christianity that is sometimes interesting but of very little value when it comes to either theology or practice.   This anti-historical bias is, unfortunately, a key element of the modernism which has permeated evangelicalism.  We assume that what we know now is automatically more factual and reliable than what someone would know in, say, the 2nd Century.  Christians in the 1st and 2nd centuries didn&#8217;t read, for the most part, and probably didn&#8217;t think critically.  Aside from Paul, that is.  And, since much of &#8220;tradition&#8221; was passed along orally, who can trust it?  Right?</p>
<p>We now have thousands of fragments of various books, and through modern analytical processes, we obviously are better able to understand the meaning of the Gospels and Epistles then those who understood 1st Century Israel and actually knew what all of the words meant.   Right?</p>
<p>Well, isn&#8217;t it?  After all, who needs to know what  1st and 2nd Century Christians like Polycarp (who actually <em>knew</em> John and some of the other disciples) thought?  Did you even <em>know</em> that there was a guy named Polycarp who knew some of the disciples, and who taught other guys like Irenaeus who also wrote stuff?  It doesn&#8217;t matter, because now we have John Piper.</p>
<p>Okay, so I&#8217;m being facetious.</p>
<p>The thing is, the Gospel began as oral tradition.  There are <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=word+god&amp;searchtype=all&amp;version1=31&amp;bookset=9">dozens of places</a> in the Epistles where the writers speak of the Word of God as something which was presented orally.   Furthermore, the Gospels we find in our Bibles are thought to have been written after many or all of the Epistles.  The Gospel &#8211; the Word of God &#8211; is <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians+2:13&amp;version=NIV">presented</a> throughout the New Testament as authoritative, even though it was at that time <em>oral tradition</em>. The Word of God, in fact, existed before there was a Bible. (Athanasius was the first person that we know of to list the same 27 books we have in our modern New Testaments &#8211; in 361AD.)</p>
<p>Now, consider the Bible itself.  The Canon of Scripture &#8211; those books which were considered authoritative &#8211; was disputed for hundreds of years.  Luther himself questioned 4 of the books &#8211; including Hebrews, James and Revelation &#8211; though he left them in the Bible he translated to German.  Still today there are disagreements about the books we refer to as the Apocrypha.  The Bible is a product, if I can use that word, of Tradition.  The Canon (i.e. the list of accepted books) was not handed down on golden tablets; it came about &#8220;the old-fashioned way&#8221;: by prayer, study and debate.</p>
<p>Now, if that isn&#8217;t enough, let&#8217;s consider more recent forms of Tradition.  Many Lutherans, when faced with issues of Biblical interpretation and Doctrine, don&#8217;t just wrestle with the text; they go to the Book of Concord and Luther&#8217;s writings.  Reformed folks (and many others) look to Calvin.  For that matter, much of what we accept as Biblical Doctrine is not &#8220;the plain meaning of Scripture,&#8221; but the opinions of Augustine (original sin, anyone?).</p>
<p>The Apostles&#8217; and Nicene Creeds are a part of Tradition.  The concept of the Trinity, argued so famously by Athanasius at the Council of Nicea, is tradition.</p>
<p>Whether or not we want to admit it, we all rely  upon the some church tradition.</p>
<p>When considering the place of tradition, there are some considerations. First, is a tradition that started in the 15th Century more or less reliable than a tradition that dates back to the 1st Century?  Also, we have to consider the possibility that the 1st and 2nd Century Christians actually passed down what they had received from the Apostles?  (btw, we know from the New Testament that not everything was written down.  We also already know that we can trust Oral Tradition, otherwise we would have issues with the four Gospels.)  Third, do we think that the Christians of the 1st &#8211; 3rd Centuries actually understood what was passed down?  Can we trust their opinions? Finally, how authoritative is &#8220;Tradition?&#8221;</p>
<p>In my next (and probably last) post in this series, I&#8217;ll discuss various church traditions&#8217; thinking on tradition.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rethinking the Reformation concept of Sola Scriptura is a rather intimidating task, especially for someone who was raised Lutheran (and especially on Reformation Day!).  Sola Scriptura &#8211; the principle that says that the sole authority of the Church rests in Scripture alone &#8211; is one of the hallmarks of the Reformation.  It was a response [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rethinking the Reformation concept of <em>Sola Scriptura</em> is a rather intimidating task, especially for someone who was raised Lutheran (and especially on Reformation Day!).  <em>Sola Scriptura</em> &#8211; the principle that says that the sole authority of the Church rests in Scripture alone &#8211; is one of the hallmarks of the Reformation.  It was a response to the abuses of Church Tradition by the Roman Catholic Church, who had added teachings that included Papal Infallibility,  the Immaculate Conception (the belief that Mary the Mother of Jesus was born without original sin), and of course, the doctrine of Purgatory and the benefits of purchasing Indulgences.  It was this last doctrine that prompted Luther to post his 95 Theses to the door of Wittenberg Chapel.</p>
<p>Martin Luther saw the dangers in following the obviously arbitrary doctrines created by the RCC, and at the Diet of Worms (yeah, I&#8217;ve always laughed at that, too) made this famous statement:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Unless I am convicted by Scripture     and plain reason &#8211; I do not accept the authority of popes and councils, for     they have contradicted each other &#8211; my conscience is captive to the Word of     God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience     is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other.  God help me.      Amen.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>The interesting thing about Luther is that he actually <em>tried</em> to follow church authority, going back to earlier Papal teachings that contradicted those he was questioning.  When he found out that he couldn&#8217;t reconcile the various &#8220;authoritative&#8221; teachings, he turned to the only unchanging authority, that of the Bible.</p>
<p><em>Sola Scriptura</em> has become foundational to hundreds of protestant denominations, each of which follow &#8220;the plain meaning of Scripture&#8221; but yet disagree with each other on any number of points.  When someone claims to follow &#8220;the plain meaning of Scripture,&#8221; you really have to ask, &#8220;which one?&#8221; To most evangelical Christians, <em>sola scriptura</em> has come to mean, &#8220;the Bible means whatever I think it means.&#8221;  I have heard this theory of Biblical interpretation referred to as &#8220;<em>solo</em> scriptura.&#8221;</p>
<p>How far we&#8217;ve come from Martin Luther, whose intent was never to disregard the tradition of the Apostles, but rather to remove the authority of men from the Church.  The irony is that today, each Christian who asserts his own right to interpret the Bible for himself is once again relying on the authority of man, not the authority of the Bible.</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p><em>Sola Scriptura</em> is not without its problems.  For one thing, the Bible didn&#8217;t exist in it&#8217;s current form(s) until the 4th Century; it wasn&#8217;t just handed down from God with a gold-embossed burgundy leather cover.  Decisions were made &#8211; by men &#8211; as to which of the many books that had been collected met the standards of Scripture. Even then, there were books &#8211; such as those we call the Apocrypha, as well as some we find in our Bibles today &#8211; that have been routinely questioned.  Luther himself questioned the inclusion of one or 2 books.  How, then, could Luther rest on the Bible&#8217;s authority alone?  For that matter, how could the Church of the 2nd and 3rd centuries exist without what is considered by many to be the sole authority of the Church?  It seems obvious that Luther had some different thoughts in mind when spoke of the Authority of Scripture alone.</p>
<p>While I haven&#8217;t found any specific quote from Luther defining <em>sola scriptura</em>, he does give some clues as to his thinking:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" lang="en-us"><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">&#8220;</span>Now it is the office of a true apostle to preach of the Passion and resurrection and office of Christ, and to lay the foundation for faith in him, as Christ himself says in John 15[:27], “You shall bear witness to me.” All the genuine sacred books agree in this, that all of them preach and inculcate </span><em style="font-family: trebuchet ms;"></em><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" lang="en-us">Christ. And that is the true test by which to judge all books, when we see whether or not they inculcate Christ. For all the Scriptures show us Christ, Romans 3[:21]; and St. Paul will know nothing but Christ, I Corinthians 2[:2]. Whatever does not teach Christ is not ye</span><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;" lang="en-us">t apostolic, even though St. Peter or St. Paul does the teaching. Again, whatever preaches Christ <span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">would be apostolic, even if Judas, Annas, Pilate, and Herod were doing it&#8221; (</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: trebuchet ms;">Prefaces to the New Testament, </span><span style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">LW </span></span><span id="__spanCitationData" style="font-family: trebuchet ms;">35:396</span>).</p></blockquote>
<p>Luther, it seems, was never ruling out the authority <em>behind</em> the Bible: Apostolic Authority.  For Luther, the key in determining whether a book deserved to be included in the Canon of the Bible, it had to contain the Apostolic message.</p>
<p>The point Luther was making, and which is more obvious today than ever, is this: no man has an infallible interpretation of the Bible.  This, then, begs the question: Where is such authority to be found, if not in the Bible itself?  This is not to suggest that the Bible is not authoritative; I believe that it is.  The problem is in the exegesis, the interpretation.  It seems logical to conclude that either there is no source of authority in interpretation, in which case we have problems, or there is an authority, in which case we should find it.</p>
<p>Next, we turn to the issue of Tradition.</p>
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		<title>Ancient Faith, current faith</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Hyatt is CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers and Chairman of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association.  He is also a Deacon at St. Ignatius Orthodox Church in Franklin, Tennessee.  That&#8217;s right, Orthodox church.  I recently started listening to podcasts of the Sunday School class he teaches, which are available at Ancient Faith Radio, an Orthodox [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://michaelhyatt.com/">Michael Hyatt</a> is CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers and Chairman of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association.  He is also a Deacon at St. Ignatius Orthodox Church in Franklin, Tennessee.  That&#8217;s right, <em>Orthodox</em> church.  I recently started listening to podcasts of the Sunday School class he teaches, which are available at <a href="http://ancientfaith.com/">Ancient Faith Radio</a>, an Orthodox Website with tons of great podcasts, all from an Eastern point of view. Hyatt&#8217;s show is entitled <a href="http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/eastwest"><em>At the Intersection of East and West</em></a>, an appropriate title for him.  He covers a number of very interesting topics including Mary, <em>sola Scriptura</em>, and his current series is teaching through Fr. Alexander Schmemann&#8217;s <em>For the Life of the World</em>, a great little book I read about 30 years ago which explains the essence of Orthodox worship.<a href="http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/eastwest"><img class="alignright" title="East-West" src="http://images.ancientfaith.com/200/AtTheIntersection.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>For those of us who have been raised in an Augustinian, Enlightenment-saturated church, listening to or reading theology from an Eastern point of view is often shocking, but I highly recommend it.  As far as I know, it is really the <em>only </em>way to get any kind of sense of what the pre-enlightenment and pre-Augustine church thought.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that I accept everything I read or hear from the Orthodox; no, I&#8217;m still too modern for that.  However, more and more I am tending to accept some of their views, such as the <em>Christus Victor</em> view of the atonement (adopted in some fashion by more and more people in the west, such as NT Wright and Greg Boyd), and concepts such as <em>theosis</em> (which is not unlike some of Luther&#8217;s views).   Hyatt&#8217;s thinking on <em>sola scriptura</em> is quite interesting: he brings up a number of issues that most people in the west don&#8217;t seem to consider, including the interesting paradox of putting the Bible above any church tradition, while not realizing that the Bible itself relies entirely on Church tradition.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been interested in Eastern Orthodox theology for nearly 30 years, and find that more and more, the ancient faith is perhaps more relevant than modern evangelicalism.  Ancient Faith Radio is a great resource for exploring non-Western Christianity, and also a great place to learn about early church history and theology.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post continues my series as I think through NT Wright&#8217;s recent book, Justification. For those who are lazy or short on time, I&#8217;ve bullet-pointed my thoughts at the bottom of the post.
In Chapter 6 , entitled Interlude, Wright addresses Paul&#8217;s letters to the Pilippians, Corinthians, and Ephesians.  None of these are major books in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post <a href="http://aldenswan.com/2009/10/nt-wrights-justification-pt-4/">continues</a> my series as I think through NT Wright&#8217;s recent book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Justification-Gods-Plan-Pauls-Vision/dp/0830838635"><em>Justification</em></a>. For those who are lazy or short on time, I&#8217;ve bullet-pointed my thoughts at the bottom of the post.</p>
<p>In Chapter 6<em> </em>, entitled <em>Interlude</em>, Wright addresses Paul&#8217;s letters to the Pilippians, Corinthians, and Ephesians.  None of these are major books in dealing with justification, but he doesn&#8217;t want to ignore them, either.  It&#8217;s an interesting chapter, one which let&#8217;s Wright retell some of his main points.  I still am struggling, however, with really getting a handle on his definition of &#8220;justification.&#8221;  It seems that it could be said like this: Justification is not having your sins forgiven, it is belonging to the people of God (who, as it turns out, have and will have their sins forgiven).  The &#8220;old perspective&#8221; view is generally that justification provides forgiveness of our sins, so we can then be part of the people of God.  Most people probably won&#8217;t care about the distinction, but many folks &#8211; especially Calvinists like John Piper &#8211; do.  <em>Justification </em>is a specific response to John Piper&#8217;s criticisms; I would probably understand some of Wright&#8217;s statements better had I read Piper&#8217;s book, but I just can&#8217;t bring myself to devote time to reading Piper.  So, let&#8217;s continue on looking at various statements I flagged as I read this chapter.</p>
<p>First, on page 145 Wright states, &#8220;<em>The keeping of the law was not a way of earning anything, of </em>gaining<em> a status before God; &#8230;  All that Torah-obedience does &#8230; is to express what is already given.</em>&#8220;   Of course, some of this is obviously true; the majority of the laws reflected God&#8217;s holiness, and the Law set Israel apart from the rest of the world.  However, this doesn&#8217;t seem true for that part of the Law dealing with atonement.  On p.146 he summarizes, &#8220;The question is not,&#8217;What must I do to get to heaven?&#8217; but <em>How can you tell in the present who will be vindicated in the future?&#8221;</em> This, however, is not any of purposes that Paul gives for the Law, that I recall, although Wright specifically claims (p. 147) that &#8220;This is what Paul the apostle referred to as &#8216;justification by works.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wright admits (p. 149) that justification means &#8220;the establishment of a personal relationship,&#8221; but says, &#8220;But this is extremely misleading.&#8221;  Wright is reacting against the contemporary existentialist interpretation of &#8220;personal relationship with God&#8221; that suffers when someone has a moment of personal crisis.  This I agree with; however, I don&#8217;t know that this justifies (pun intended once again) Wright&#8217;s re-definition.</p>
<p>Dealing with Ephesians on page 170, Wright mentions that Eph. 2:8 is the only place where Paul mentions being saved by faith; in other places, he talks about being justified. Rather than make the assumption that the terms are therefore equivalent, he states that here Paul is talking about <em>salvation</em>, where elsewhere he is talking about justification, making the distinction, &#8220;justified in the present, saved in the future.&#8221;  But then, he states that Paul sees both justification and salvation as past, present and future.  So, where does this leave us?  &#8220;&#8230; justification is God&#8217;s declaration that someone is in the right, is a member of the sin-forgiven covenant family, while salvation is the actual rescue from death and sin.&#8221;  Personally, I don&#8217;t think Paul is being that precise, but rather uses justification and salvation as different expressions to explain a rather large concept.</p>
<p>Then in verses 14 &amp; 15, he sees what he believes is the point Paul is trying to make,</p>
<blockquote><p><sup id="en-NIV-29228">14</sup>For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, <sup id="en-NIV-29229">15</sup>by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.</p></blockquote>
<p>pointing out that this is where James Dunn had his &#8220;major breakthrough&#8221; in discovering the new perspective.  The Law was the divide between Jew and Gentile, and now Law has been removed, so that the 2 can be one.  Rather than the Law being the enemy of grace, the Law is the enemy of the unified Church, which is crucial for the continuation of God&#8217;s plan for the healing of creation. On page 173 he states</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;the church, thus united through the grace of God in the death of Jesus, <em>is the sign to the principalities and powers that their time is up</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>For NT Wright, the point of justification is that the church is now united without the Law, that ecclesiology is at the &#8220;very center of the gospel.&#8221;  For Wright, this also means that the church has a political role, suggesting that the evangelical church doesn&#8217;t want to consider this, although he points out that some of the kingdom theology of Luther and others touches on this point.</p>
<p><strong>Thoughts</strong></p>
<p>There are a number of things with which I think I agree with Wright (that is, if I am following him accurately).</p>
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<li>Justification and salvation (regardless of their relationship to each other) have a broader scope than simply our individual &#8220;relationship to God&#8221; and &#8220;getting to Heaven when we die.&#8221;</li>
<li>God&#8217;s plan was to bless the world through Israel and that work was and is being completed through Jesus, and the Church now carries on as a part of that work.</li>
<li>Furthermore, God&#8217;s plan for salvation/justification was to redeem all of creation.</li>
<li>I believe &#8211; so far in my studies, anyway &#8211; in the <em>Christus Victor</em> theory of the atonement, which is quite in line with the Eastern Orthodox view.  This also means rejecting the penal substitution view, which is central to Calvinism (explaining at least some of Piper&#8217;s heartburn).</li>
<li>Salvation/justification cannot be understood as merely an individual issue; our individual relationship with God flows from his Covenant with Israel/the Church.</li>
</ul>
<p>I also do not disagree with much of what he is saying about how justification impacts the church and the Jew-Gentile divide; I simply question whether that is indeed the central point.  Again, I see Wright as reacting to the contemporary evangelical existentialist model of Christianity, where the church is, if anything, optional, and our only focus is heaven, not Earth.  But, I have never had this view.</p>
<p>Finally, I agree with Wright&#8217;s closing comments in this chapter, where he says that both old and new perspectives &#8220;belong within a larger vision of Paul&#8217;s gospel and theology than much &#8230; had ever invisaged.&#8221;</p>
<p>Next, Wright tackles Romans.  This should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>Support for the authenticity and authorship of the Gospel of John</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength:
Of the four canonical gospels of the life of Christ, the one I have most often seen dismissed outright for historical value is the Gospel of John. The early church agreed that it was the latest written of the four. In the early church, the name attached to the gospel [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://weekendfisher.blogspot.com/2009/10/has-modern-scholarship-disproved.html"><em>Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength</em></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Of the four canonical gospels of the life of Christ, the one I have most often seen dismissed outright for historical value is the Gospel of John. The early church agreed that it was the latest written of the four. In the early church, the name attached to the gospel was that of John the Apostle. But scholars have found signs of editing; was it tampering? There is also clearly an appendix in Chapter 21 with multiple authors referring to themselves as &#8220;we&#8221; (John 21:24). Could anything refute the traditional attribution to John more clearly? Can anything in an altered document be trusted?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting questions. Folks like Bart Ehrman and the pop atheists would answer, &#8220;no.&#8221;  But wait, there&#8217;s more&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This excerpt is from the Muratorian Canon, probably dated to the late 100&#8217;s A.D., commenting on how the fourth gospel came to be written: </em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;When his fellow-disciples and bishops encouraged him, John said, “Fast along with me three days from today, and whatever may be revealed to each, let us relate it one to another.” The same night it was revealed to Andrew, one of the apostles, that John in his own name should write down everything and that <em>they should all revise it</em>. (from the Muratorian Canon, likely dates ranging from 170 A.D. – 200 A.D based on internal evidence. Emphasis added.)&#8221;</p>
<p><em>The very early church, still in the 100&#8217;s, retained this information on how the fourth gospel came to be written, how it came to be edited, and why it has an appendix. One of the names of the editors is retained for us: Andrew the apostle, who was Simon Peter&#8217;s brother.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is not the kind of scholarship that makes the secular Bible scholars happy.  Oh well&#8230;</p>
<p>Read the rest of the article<a href="http://weekendfisher.blogspot.com/2009/10/has-modern-scholarship-disproved.html"> here</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Self-identified conservatives outnumber self-identified liberals in all 50 states of the union, according to the Gallup Poll.   At the same time, more Americans nationwide are saying this year that they are conservative than have made that claim in any of the last four years.</em></p>
<p><em>In 2009, 40% percent of respondents in Gallup surveys that have interviewed more than 160,000 Americans have said that they are either “conservative” (31%) or “very conservative” (9%). That is the highest percentage in any year since 2004.   Only 21% have told Gallup they are liberal, including 16% who say they are “liberal” and 5% who say they are “very liberal.”</em> &#8211; from <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52602">CNSNews</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting.  Liberals (the 21%), of course, would have us believe that they are mainstream and that conservatives should be marginalized.  This, of course, smacks of facism (I have been laughed at by liberals at this, but that&#8217;s only because it&#8217;s true).</p>
<p>My thoughts on the change in poll numbers is that it is a reaction to the current version of liberal extremism running rampant in Washington D.C.  People are beginning to see the logical result of liberalism and realize that they want nothing to do with it.  Note the poll says nothing about party affiliation, just whether people see themselves as liberal, moderate or conservative.</p>
<p><strong>Global Warming</strong></p>
<p>Along similar lines, the <a href="http://wbx.me/l/?p=1&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fping.fm%2FwMHjc">Pew Research Center</a> has conducted a poll indicating that</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There has been a sharp decline over the past year in the percentage of Americans who say there is solid evidence that global temperatures are rising. And fewer also see global warming as a very serious problem – 35% say that today, down from 44% in April 2008</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting, isn&#8217;t it?  Why would this be so, when we&#8217;ve been told again and again that anthropogenic global warming is killing us all?  We are inundated with &#8220;facts&#8221; and figures about melting glaciers, etc., etc.  Just think of all the doom and gloom rhetoric from Obama and Co.   Why are people believing it less?  If you listen to Rahm Emanuel, he&#8217;ll tell you it&#8217;s because of Rush Limbaugh or Fox News, who are spreading lie after lie.  But, I doubt either can boast of a 40% market share.  The majority of people still get their news from the rest of the media (which aren&#8217;t being picked on because they are carrying out their information disseminating services quite well).</p>
<p>No, I suspect it&#8217;s because more and more people are realizing that the facts aren&#8217;t adding up.  Global Warming is cooling, there are data gaps and conflicts everywhere, and the Administration is running around yelling, &#8220;pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!&#8221;   Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am concerned about the environment and saving energy.  I like renewable, green energy.  I like clean air (one of the reasons I left SoCal) and potable water.  I just think the AGW scare is an attempt to create fear, so those in control can <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40" target="_blank">grab even more power</a>.  But, people aren&#8217;t buying it.</p>
<p><strong>Phonies</strong></p>
<p>The whole Afghanistan thing is quite revealing.  We&#8217;ve heard O. and Co. laying blame on the prior administration, claiming that with Afghanistan, they were left with nothing, and literally had to start at square one.  In reality, there was an unprecedented amount of cooperation by the Bush team, who provided more assistance, information and advice than any prior administration.  Furthermore, they provided specific analysis of the situation in Afghanistan, but as we&#8217;ve now heard from <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33426929/ns/politics-white_house/">Dick Cheney</a>, Obama requested that <em>they not tell anyone</em>!  Why would they make such a request?  The only reason I can think of is so they could take credit for the plan themselves (which they did back in March).</p>
<p>Yesterday, of course, the White House responded with all kinds of nonsense.  The truth is, Obama <em>is</em> &#8220;dithering.&#8221;  He either doesn&#8217;t know what to do or he doesn&#8217;t have the guts to do what he knows he should do.  Certainly he shouldn&#8217;t act rashly&#8230; but yes, he&#8217;s dithering.  He ran off to claim the Olympics, he plans to sign away our national sovereignty in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40">Copenhagen</a>, and he&#8217;s obsessed with his healthcare plan (which, by the way, isn&#8217;t his, either). Personally, I think Obama is a phony.  He doesn&#8217;t have what it takes to be President or Commander in Chief.  I realize it&#8217;s a tough job &#8211; I certainly couldn&#8217;t do it, and wouldn&#8217;t want to.  But, he claimed he had what it took to do the job, and he fooled enough people to vote for him.  Now, we&#8217;re reaping the results.</p>
<p><strong>Politics</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s time that Obama &#8211; the chief servant of the people (not the dictator) &#8211; starts listening to the people.  Less than 1/4 of Americans are liberal.  Most people don&#8217;t like his healthcare ideas. They don&#8217;t like his approach to economics, and they don&#8217;t like his foreign policy.  They don&#8217;t want him signing the Copenhagen treaty.  Wake up, Mr. Obama.</p>
<p>He must know by now that chances are, he&#8217;s losing his majority on the hill.  And, he&#8217;s got to realize that he&#8217;s as good as gone in 2012 (well, I hear we all might be, but that&#8217;s another matter).</p>
<p>So what does he think he&#8217;s doing?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he knows.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the funniest conversation this afternoon with a Customer Service Representative (defining the title broadly) of Chase concerning the newly increase interest rates on our Chase Mastercard.
I should back up a bit.  A few years ago we opened an account at Washington Mutual.  It was a nice little bank, conveniently located, and the employees [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the funniest conversation this afternoon with a Customer Service Representative (defining the title broadly) of Chase concerning the newly increase interest rates on our Chase Mastercard.</p>
<p>I should back up a bit.  A few years ago we opened an account at Washington Mutual.  It was a nice little bank, conveniently located, and the employees were all very nice and helpful.  We were quite sad when they were gobbled up by JP Morgan Chase, an opinion that is shared universally among people with whom we have spoken.  In fact, I&#8217;ve not heard one nice thing about Chase, by anyone.  But, the bank was still local.</p>
<p>The first clue that we needed to leave was when my son, who also has an account there, went into the bank to inquire about something.  He was told, for some strange reason, not to come into the bank to ask questions again.  So much for nice and helpful.</p>
<p>Then, <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/09/credit.card.outrage/index.html?iref=mpstoryview">I read</a> that while banks like Bank of America had decided not to increase their interest rates on credit cards, Chase was going ahead with their interest rate hikes before a new consumer protection bill takes effect in a few months.   Then, yesterday I read that JP Morgan Chase&#8217;s profits had exceeded expectations, almost six times its profits a year ago.  <em>Six times!</em></p>
<p>So, I checked my most recent statement and sure enough, the rate had indeed increased&#8230; to 29.99%!  An increase to 19% I would not have been shocked at, but 30%?   When we took the card out about 4 years ago, the rate was under 10% &#8211; which was why we used it rather than our BofA card, which is still under 12%.  Fortunately, we keep our card paid down, so it&#8217;s not that big of a deal to us.  But, I decided to call Chase to discuss this out of principle (actually, out of interest, but you know what I mean).  I had already decided to bail on Chase, but I just wanted to hear what they had to say.</p>
<p>The phone call went something very similar to  this (I actually wished I had recorded it, but it&#8217;s as verbatim as I can recall):</p>
<blockquote><p>Me:  I would like to confirm the interest rate on my Mastercard.  Can it be true that it has been rased to 29.99%?</p>
<p>Chase (a male with an Indian-sounding accent):  Thank you for calling about Chase&#8217;s interest rates.  Let me check your account &#8230;   Yes, that is the new rate.</p>
<p>Me:  How can this be?  Isn&#8217;t this kind of insane?</p>
<p>Chase:  Thank you for calling about interest rates.  Chase made the decision in May to increase credit rates, and this is now in effect.</p>
<p>Me:  Don&#8217;t thank me &#8211; <em>I</em> haven&#8217;t raised the interest rates.  How do you expect people to continue with Chase when it is almost three times other rates?</p>
<p>Chase:  You are free to make whatever decisions you want concerning using the credit card.  I cannot make any adjustments to rates.</p>
<p>Me:  Do you realize that when I cancel this card, I am also closing out my other Chase accounts?</p>
<p>Chase:  You are certainly free to make whatever decisions you think are appropriate.</p>
<p>Me:  You no longer want me as a customer?  Let me ask you this:  Is there any reason you can think of for me to remain a Chase customer?</p>
<p>Chase:  unintelligible mumbling</p>
<p>Me:  You can&#8217;t think of a reason, can you?</p>
<p>Chase (female voice, obviously a recording):  If you feel you have been disconnected by accident, please call again &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Amazing.  I still can&#8217;t believe the twerp hung up on me.  I wonder how many of these calls they get a day?  I probably don&#8217;t have to tell you that I&#8217;m shutting down Chase tomorrow. But, I&#8217;m going down to the local branch to do it.  Someone there needs to know why customers are leaving like rats from a sinking ship.</p>
<p>I am, however, honestly perplexed.  In this delicate economic climate, and with Chase making money hand over fist, don&#8217;t you think they would be somewhat customer-focused?  Do they think people are so trapped that they don&#8217;t have any other options?  Perhaps some people are&#8230;  and that&#8217;s scary.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also wrong &#8230; very wrong.   Chase will find out that stuff like this will come back to bite them.</p>
<p>The bigger they are&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the prior 3 posts in this series, I have pointed out a number of places where I am in disagreement with NT Wright&#8217;s most recent book, Justification.  Now, let me summarize some things I am in agreement with.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the <a href="http://aldenswan.com/2009/10/nt-wright-on-justification-pt-3/">prior</a> 3 posts in this series, I have pointed out a number of places where I am in disagreement with NT Wright&#8217;s most recent book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Justification-Gods-Plan-Pauls-Vision/dp/0830838635"><em>Justification</em></a>.  Now, let me summarize some things I am in agreement with.</p>
<p>One of Wright&#8217;s goals, it appears, is to counter the standard Western Evangelical motif that salvation is about &#8220;going to Heaven when you die.&#8221;  This is the theme tackled in &#8220;<em>Surprised by Hope</em>,&#8221; and it is also taken up here in dealing with the title subject, justification.  Overall, I would tend to agree that justification goes beyond an individualized transaction where my decision to have faith is exchanged for Jesus&#8217; death and resurrection, and therefore my eternal destiny is secured.  This does not mean that justification doesn&#8217;t have a personal, individual application.  Each one of the Israelites was personally saved when they crossed the Red Sea; that, however, doesn&#8217;t mean that God parted the Red Sea for any one person.</p>
<p>Wright sees justification and salvation as having a larger application, that of &#8220;setting the world to rights.&#8221;  This is not a foreign concept to Paul, who talks about the redemption of creation, which &#8220;will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.&#8221; (Romans 8:21)</p>
<p>Wright&#8217;s &#8220;big picture&#8221; goes like this: God&#8217;s one and only plan was to choose a people &#8211; Israel &#8211; in order to bless all of creation, and therefore established the Covenant with Abraham. While the Israelite people failed, God did not, and sent Jesus &#8211; the heir as identified by Paul in Galatians &#8211; to complete that goal.  Jesus&#8217; resurrection began that &#8220;setting the world to rights&#8221; process.  The Church, now &#8211; consisting of both Jews and Gentiles &#8211; continues this mission.   Therefore, as Romans 8 says, all of creation waits for the &#8220;sons of God to be revealed.&#8221;   We are living out the Abrahamic Covenant as adopted descendants of Abraham (and God).</p>
<p>In this sense, justification is not about individual salvation, it is about the redemption of Creation.  Wright, in fact, writes that his understanding of Galatians is that it is a &#8220;<em>theology of justification which includes all that the old perspective was really trying to say within a larger framework which, while owing quite a bit to aspects of the new perspective, goes considerably beyond it.</em>&#8221; (p.140)</p>
<p>This was always my understanding of Wright&#8217;s views on justification: the so-called &#8220;old perspective&#8221; may have been wrong only in that it was somewhat short-sighted.  For justification to be properly understood, it needs to recognize the larger context of the redemption of all creation.  In this sense, I don&#8217;t find Wright&#8217;s theology to be dangerous in any way, as some would think.</p>
<p>But, I still have three chapters yet to go.</p>
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